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Sorry, hit a bit of an edit conflict on Jay Frank Schamberg, and I may have removed some of your improvements by mistake. Check it out, see if there's anything missing? DS ( talk) 20:23, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for looking into this. Did I do something incorrect? Onel5969 ( talk) 01:31, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
I confirm that I have requested access to the ACC interface. DES (talk) 18:19, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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Hi. In regards to the "Starfish and Coffee" article, instead of slapping one ugly tag after another to the article, why don't you work on it instead? If you can find the time to tag it to death well then you have the time to work on it. Furthermore, the article was created by a newbie who happens to also be very young. Instead of showing off your knowledge on how well you know the wiki rules, why don't you instead educate the new editor on how things work? As an admin you should know better. Caden cool 23:29, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello DESiegel. I would like to ask your advice on something. I'm considering making a change to an article. It wouldn't be my first change to an article, but it *would* be the first time I remove material as opposed to adding or slightly altering material. I've started a discussion on the article's talk page. If you have time and if it wouldn't be inconvenient, perhaps you could take a quick look at it and give me your opinion. The discussion is at
Talk:Kinescope#Removal of "fluid" look does not make a great deal of difference????. As always I appreciate any help or advice you give me.
Richard27182 (
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10:52, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Anupvshenoy ( talk) 14:44, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel: this is regarding the page we had created about an Institution Students' Information & Guidance Bureau which you recently deleted. I would like to point out a few facts:
1. The content we have included in Wikipedia is NOT an advertisement or any such purpose.
2. The aforesaid institution doesn't make any revenue out of the article submitted to the Wikipedia page.
3. This institution is more like an NGO which helps and supports students around the region. So we have included this page with a hope, that this concept possibly reaches out to more students so that it can provide them with a problem solving way for their educational queries.
4. Also we'd like to point out that this institution has NO whatsoever advertisements made in any form of media till date so it rules out the point that we are using Wikipedia as "advertisement" for this institution. As the institution functions just on the students' need/requirements, word of mouth, goodwill, follow up and positive social work attitude of the members of the institution.
Hoping you'd go through the article again and kindly assess once again and reply positively. Thanks and Regards Anupvshenoy ( talk) 14:44, 31 May 2015 (UTC)Anup V S.
Anupvshenoy (
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17:19, 31 May 2015 (UTC) Hi DES
yes i shall do that. Plus if you feel there are any particular corrections to be made according to the WIKI norms, do inform.. Thanx and regards
Hi DESiegel. Once again I need the help of someone experienced. But this time it's not technical but more like "political." I'm trying to correct an error in an article. I made the appropriate correction, which was promptly reverted. Rather than getting involved in an "editing war," I contacted the reverter and tried to work something out, but to no avail. So I started a discussion on the article's talk page. All I ask of you is to check it out and weigh in with your opinion. The talk page is
Talk:Wanderer of the Wasteland (1945 film). Thanks!
Richard27182 (
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08:19, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I'm writing to you here, rather than on the talkpage of that film, since I think this is a side-issue and might take away from that discussion. After having taken a moment or two to actually look at Richard27182's requests on other editors' pages, it appears to me that it is clearly canvassing, "which is done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way is considered inappropriate". He did not simply contact editors and ask them to join the conversation, he asked several editors to join in a way designed to influence their input (stating that "I'm trying to correct an error in an article. I made the appropriate correction, which was promptly reverted"). Hopefully he'll understand what canvassing is now and not do it in the future. Or perhaps I'm not understanding what is meant by attempting to influence a discussion. Regardless, let me know if you think my interpretation is incorrect. Take it easy. Onel5969 ( talk) 23:07, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
David-- Thank you for your response. I have added references to the subject article. Should I remove the corresponding tag?
As for notability, I considered this before creating the article. Perhaps, as a fan of Stephen Bishop, I am biased. He has had several charting singles, gold and platinum records, been nominated for several Grammys and two Academy Awards. He has released over twenty albums and his songs have been recorded by many major artists (Barbra Streisand, Art Garfunkel, Phil Collins). This particular album is far from his best selling or most professional. However, I felt it important since it includes initial versions of songs that were later recorded on various studio albums. The overall worth could be debated with different outcomes by reasonable individuals, I'm sure.
Back to the subject of references. In most cases, I have not been citing references to information which is found on the jacket, liner notes, etc., of the subject album itself. This seems redundant. Should this be done? If so, how?
I'm very new at this (I created my first article earlier this week) so please forgive any missteps I've made. I have tried to read and consider the many different, and lengthy, guidelines provided but can't guarantee I've followed them all. It was very distressing to see an article I had spent time writing just disappear without explanation. Thanks again. Keesling ( talk) 06:29, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel. I had never heard of "canvassing" before, so I'm glad you mentioned it to me. The reason I contacted a few editors was to try to at least get a few people involved in the discussion because it did not seem to be going anywhere. I didn't base my choice of whom to contact on any expectation of their agreeing with me. (I would have had no way of knowing which side they would take on the issue in question.). They were simply editors I'd had contact with before and I felt comfortable contacting them (as opposed to contacting people out of the blue).
There is certainly no denying that I stated my side of the issue and not Onel5969's. I was not aware that this was inappropriate. So let me ask this: given that I did not select the recipients on any expectation of their agreeing with me, would I have been acting appropriately if I had included Onel5969's side; and if so, could I have done that by referencing or providing a link to his own message to me? (I forget if that was on his talk page or my talk page on the article's talk page; and would which page it was on make a difference?)
And generally speaking, when there is a disagreement between two editors about an article, and messages are posted on the article's talk page and nobody else is getting involved, what is the preferred way of getting more people involved in the discussion? (And please remember I am a novice, so please keep your answer simple and easy to understand.) And also please remember that, being a novice, it's inevitable that I am going to be making mistakes here and there. But I am always acting in good faith. Thank you.
Richard27182 (
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09:51, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi dear Siegel. Enwiki has a policy for removing inactive admins. But I see no action to apply this policy. (One third of admins had no administrative activity (and maybe edit) in more than one year!) Why does not remove the adminship of these inactive admins? Thanks. Mahdy Saffar ( talk) 07:19, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
no edits or administrative actionsfor a year. Thus an admin who has taken no admin actions for a year, but who has made edits during that year, does not have his or her admin rights removed.
Are there any previous revisions that were deleted accidentally? -- George Ho ( talk) 08:06, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel. In addition to my hypothetical and other question under the "Canvassing" section, I have one additional new question. Is it OK to post a direct link to a user/editor's personal user talk page. I can clarify my purpose for wanting to do it if the answer depends on it. Thanks
Richard27182 (
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12:45, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel. I saw your post at the Teahouse, but I think its better if I replied here than there since that question has already be answered and the template is only indirectly related to it. I'm not a template expert, but it seems fine to me. One thing is that I don't really see how your version of the article it is an improvement over
this version by
Fuhghettaboutit. My eyes are going bad as I get older, so this would be the first time I didn't "see" something. I think the template will probably be very helpful for newer editors or editors just creating a list article from scratch, but I'm not sure if it's going to lead to the eventual deprecation of "cite journal" or "cite book" in list articles. It's another option though, especially when there's no |title=
. You should let the editors at
WP:WPT know about it. They'd be good people to ask for more specific feedback. -
Marchjuly (
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07:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel. I'm filing a request for help with Wikipedia:Dispute resolution concerning that Technicolor dispute. If I understand the instructions correctly, I'm supposed to notify everyone who is or was involved in the discussion. In order to comply, I included your name
Richard27182 (
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09:04, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I just created a new article on this major Indian retail player - Vishal Mega Mart - and you deleted it even before I could contest it. Though the page was marked for speedy deletion, the company is a leading chain of retail stores in India, just like Wamart or 7-eleven in USA, has very prominent brand name with hundreds of stores throughout India. I was about to add reliable sources to support my claim, but you deleted it within a few minutes of creation of the page. Please undo the delete and help Wikipedia expand and grow. - 1pp2 14 June 2015 2:59am IST — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1pp2 ( talk • contribs) 21:28, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi , there are some photographs evidence on Wikipedia and linked to Vasudev V Shenoy. You can have them too as photographic evidences. Kindly go through... also if u can point out what is the intricate details interested to only a certain smaller group of people, I'd explain the importance of that information or straightaway take it off.
Anupvshenoy ( talk) 08:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DES,
Maximum texts have been corrected. If you could be more specific regarding the information such as intrinsic details and biased information, that shall be explained or removed. Also there is enough photographic evidence for now regarding the person's information mentioned here on the page. One person's close relation also I guess has been cleared out. Kindly have the page active soon without any notifications heading the page.
Thanks and regards Nayaksonal ( talk) 10:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
These are just a few example. All of this and much moe like it must go, in my view for this to be a valid article.
Hello. Would it be too weighty to go to the place in the entry where the song appears and add only (the song was featured in a Nationwide Insurance commercial called Toddlers in 2015)? And it does have an article. You Don't Know Me (Ben Folds song). I had that in my post. Can we add the Arkansas Traveler to it? Thank you. 108.54.16.72 ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Datbubblegumdoe ( talk) 17:21, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi! It looks like as you were moving that article, it was being saved back in article space, so now there's 2 copies extant. The mainspace one is undergoing continued development, so this one may not be needed. Crow Caw 22:05, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
At Omen Phaze I was on the fence between speedy deletion and AfD, so I decided the best thing was to start by nominating it for speedy deletion, which was effectively a way of asking for another opinion. You gave that opinion, for which I am grateful, and I accept that the speedy deletion has been declined. However, I thought I would just let you know that, although I thought the article was borderline for speedy deletion, and was therefore prepared for a likely decline of my nomination, I do not at all agree with the reason you gave for doing so. These days, anyone who chooses to can compose, produce, and publish 4 solo albums, just as anyone can write and self-publish books: I personally know several people who have done so, but who are not within a million miles of being significant enough to be considered for inclusion in an encyclopaedia. The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 23:01, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Earlier today, you deleted two radio station articles per WP:A7. These would not have qualified for speedy deletion or deletion of any kind. They are protected by WP:NMEDIA, Common Outcomes, and community consensus many, many times over. The user who nominated the articles for deletion has been notified of this as well. Could you please restore the above listed articles immediately? Thank you.... Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:51, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I would appreciate your advice regarding The Winner Twins page SciFiChronicle ( talk) 17:43, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi, DESiegel. Thank for welcoming me here. I saw your user page. And your like a admin. How to be an administrator. That's my wish.-- BartOlley ( talk) 01:48, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi again. How can I design my signature?-- BartOlley ( talk) 02:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help. I will continue asking you to get some ideas here in Wikipedia. I will add you as my first friend in Wikipedia. BartyOlley talk 02:23, 17 June 2015 (UTC) |
I should have realised that would happen. Doug Weller ( talk) 12:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
hello sir, i have posted my first article on wiki but i copied the article from my church website verbatim because i am the website administrator and the webmaster how can i live it on wiki for people to read. please give a helping hand Profog.sda ( talk) 09:59, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
I checked your comment on my page 'Kuppiya' . I am completely new to Wikipeida and learning it with the help of all the experienced writers. my page kuppiya had been marked for 'speedy deletion '. could you please help me to solve this issue.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zakzee ( talk • contribs) 17:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
DESiegel, Thank you for your helpful suggestions about my editing the /info/en/?search=Draft:Joseph_W._Papin page. Sorry to be a pain but I wanted clarification about quoting. If I quote something from an article or book and put the reference next to the quote I thought I was giving credit to the person that said the quote. Do I need to write in the text something like John Smith said "ice cream saves lives..." or if the reference is right next to the quote and it says that John Smith is the author of the quote doesn't that suffice? Thank you for your help. I looked at your page and I am in awe of all that you have done on Wikipedia! Jrptwins ( talk) 19:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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I just wanted to say thank you for your time and effort in helping. You are awesome. And kind to assist others! I am continuing to take your suggestions and make the needed corrections. Jrptwins ( talk) 19:29, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Being that you've been here since February 2005, I thought I'd inform you that you are eligible for membership (such as it were) at Wikipedia:Ten Year Society. Just a drive by FYI, in the event you want to pursue it. TomStar81 ( Talk) 11:55, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
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Hi DESiegel. We haven't communicated in a while and I thought I'd say hello.
Also I have a question. It's not urgent, but when you have time maybe you could answer it for me. I often use {{ping|username}} when I write to or about someone (unless I'm posting to their own talk page or they've asked me not to "ping" them). But I've noticed that other editors (including you) sometimes use templates which seem to have a similar function, such as {{U|username}} and {{ul|username}}. I haven't been able to find these in any Wikipedia documentation (since they're only one or two letters, they're kind of hard to search for). Anyway I was hoping you could explain to me the difference between them, and which is most appropriate to use where and when. Thanks.
Richard27182 (
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05:33, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
{{U|Example}}
is basically a shorthand for [[User:Example]]
. Any of these will generate a notification if posted to a talk page as part of a signed comment (must be signed in the same edit or the notification doesn't happen). See
WP:Echo and the list below. Note also the "related templates" list in the documentation of both U and ping. I hope that is helpful.
DES
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11:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)User information templates provide informational links for a user; they are similar to signatures, but often provide additional information, and may be used by other users. List:
As the administrator who blocked User:J0eg0d (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 2 weeks (account creation blocked) (Personal attacks or harassment: Unsupported sock accusations and apparent attempted intimidation on User talk:Jimbo Wales) , you may be interested that they continued to make such allegations [1]. They were notified of the improper nature of such actions [2] , [3] and [4] . After a series of back and forths with an IP, User:J0eg0d 's response appears to be [5] -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel.
I have an unusual question that I don't think is likely to show up under any of the Wikipedia policies, and I'm hoping you can answer it for me. Suppose I'm considering making a small change to an article. Would it be OK to contact the author of the article (or the author of the section I'm considering modifying) in advance on their own talk page just to run the idea past them and get an idea of what kind of reaction the modification would draw? I don't think this would count as "canvassing" since, if anything, the editor I would be contacting would be more likely to be biased against my point of view. The whole purpose would be to try to avoid getting into any more contentious, argumentative battles like the one I'm currently involved in. As always, thank you for your help and advice.
Richard27182 (
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22:20, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
I saw it was highlighted and really just didn't understand so just changed it. I appreciate your input, suggestions and edits. Sorry I don't do this often or have your experience. mary Paulhus15 ( talk) 22:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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Hello DESiegel, Wow, this is most impressive and most helpful! I really appreciate you help in uploading that organizational logo, with all the complicated rules surrounding that action. You cut thro it brilliantly. And thanks also for explaining, step by step, how you did it so I could do it myself another time. EMP ( talk) 00:51, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel,
I had a page deleted for copyright infringement issues (Paul Stanford), but the person who deleted it said that I used info from LinkedIn. The info used from LinkedIn was from the article's subject's own LinkedIn page and I had full permission to use it. I also used text from the subject's own website, with full permission. I can understand not using text from external press and media sources, but how is it a violation of copyright if I used text from the subject's own mouth, and with full permission. I don't understand the difference.
And how am I supposed to fix anything now if the article has been fully deleted? Is there some kind of appeal process for this? It's my first Wiki edit/creation so I want to get this stuff right so I don't waste a ton of time, which I've apparently done already. This is very frustrating to me, as not only did I not know I did anything wrong, but I don't know the path towards fixing things. Any clarity you can share with me is appreciated.
Thank you,
Christopher Sacredcocreation ( talk) 18:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel,
Thanks for getting back to me. I really want to get this stuff right, and being a newbie editor I understand why Wiki needs to protect itself. It for the good of everyone. I'm just trying to learn this stuff and do the best I can, so any advice and input your have is definitely appreciated.
Mr. Stanford did give me permission to use text from any of his websites and social media. He originally email me this;
You have my permission to use anything on my LinkedIn profile and paul-stanford.com website for Wikipedia. I have previously given Wikipedia permission to use my photographs for their entries on John Trudell and Jack Herer.
Yours truly,
Paul Stanford
Because he needs to give the rest of the world permission to use his materials, for any reason or gain, I then email him back this form as per the suggestions from Happysquirrel;
I hereby affirm that CHOOSE ONE: [I, (name here), am] OR [I represent (copyright holder's name), ] the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of CHOOSE ONE: [the media work] OR [the work depicted in the media] OR [both the work depicted and the media] CHOOSE ONE: [URLs of the content] OR [attached images/text].
I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International. (THIS IS THE STANDARD CHOICE; YOU MAY CHOOSE ANOTHER ACCEPTABLE FREE LICENSE, IF YOU WISH TO)
I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.
I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.
I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.
I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.
[Sender's name] [Sender's authority (If applicable. E.g. "Copyright holder", "Director", "Appointed representative of", etc.)] [Date]
Is this form the one that he should use to grant permission? I should be receiving it back from him anytime with the info filled in.
I think I would rather try to get permission to use the text that I've already created on the Wiki entry. If I can't get the article approved this way then I guess I'd start all over, but that seems to be alot more work.
In any case I will do what it takes to follow the Wiki guidelines so I can get the article approved. I've probably got 40 or 50 hours into it so far with everything I've done. I never expected to put so much time into it, but being a newbie I had to learn everything from scratch. Obviously I'm still learning :)
Thanks again for your help and suggestions.
Kind regards,
Christopher — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacredcocreation ( talk • contribs) 21:39, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks DESiegel,
I've let Mr. Stanford know what needs to be done. He will send the copyright release form off to the <permissions-en@wikimedia.org> address. The release should be for the two websites, the main sources of some of the info I put on his Wiki page. In any case they are his own words and from what I can tell it appears that we have violated his copyright, even though I had his permission to do so. But I understand that I needed to get a more formalized copyright permission from him and that's what I'm doing now.
Then I guess I'll just wait until we get through this part and then take a look at the (hopefully) undeleted page to see if there's more corrections and/or improvements that need to be made. I already got all the correct permissions for the images that I used, and submitted everything to Wiki Commons correctly. Now I just have to get the correct permissions for some of the text that was used of Mr. Stanford's own website and his LinkedIn page. After that I hope I'm good to go.
Thanks again,
Christopher
Sacredcocreation ( talk) 23:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
for your helpful thoughts and suggestions for my article. I will go back and make changes and corrections over the next few days. I appreciate you dropping by and giving me your knowledge and input. mary Paulhus15 ( talk) 23:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
one further question; once an article is cited in the bio and solo career, since I should not cite the same source again in the discography, must I find an additional source or is one source adequate. I am trying hard to give proof of all my information to keep it accurate and perhaps over doing. thank you again for your thoughts Paulhus15 ( talk) 00:17, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
<ref name="Jones69">{{cite book |last=Jones |first=Bob |title=How to Play the Guitar |date=1969 |page=27}}</ref>
and use it like that in one place in an article, when you want to cite this same source elsewhere, you simply add <ref name="Jones69" />
. (Note the closing slash (/), it is important.) That tells the wiki software that this is a 2nd occurance of the first reference, and to display it as such. Here is an example:Playing the guitar is very easy. [1] Almost anyone can do it. But practice is needed to do it well. [1] People learn by different methods. [2] A good instructor can be very helpful. [1] But many great players were self-taught. [2]
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Hi DESiegel, I've just removed your administrator rights due to inactivity. Thank you for your hard work. WormTT( talk) 07:48, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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Sorry, hit a bit of an edit conflict on Jay Frank Schamberg, and I may have removed some of your improvements by mistake. Check it out, see if there's anything missing? DS ( talk) 20:23, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for looking into this. Did I do something incorrect? Onel5969 ( talk) 01:31, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
I confirm that I have requested access to the ACC interface. DES (talk) 18:19, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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Hi. In regards to the "Starfish and Coffee" article, instead of slapping one ugly tag after another to the article, why don't you work on it instead? If you can find the time to tag it to death well then you have the time to work on it. Furthermore, the article was created by a newbie who happens to also be very young. Instead of showing off your knowledge on how well you know the wiki rules, why don't you instead educate the new editor on how things work? As an admin you should know better. Caden cool 23:29, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello DESiegel. I would like to ask your advice on something. I'm considering making a change to an article. It wouldn't be my first change to an article, but it *would* be the first time I remove material as opposed to adding or slightly altering material. I've started a discussion on the article's talk page. If you have time and if it wouldn't be inconvenient, perhaps you could take a quick look at it and give me your opinion. The discussion is at
Talk:Kinescope#Removal of "fluid" look does not make a great deal of difference????. As always I appreciate any help or advice you give me.
Richard27182 (
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10:52, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Anupvshenoy ( talk) 14:44, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel: this is regarding the page we had created about an Institution Students' Information & Guidance Bureau which you recently deleted. I would like to point out a few facts:
1. The content we have included in Wikipedia is NOT an advertisement or any such purpose.
2. The aforesaid institution doesn't make any revenue out of the article submitted to the Wikipedia page.
3. This institution is more like an NGO which helps and supports students around the region. So we have included this page with a hope, that this concept possibly reaches out to more students so that it can provide them with a problem solving way for their educational queries.
4. Also we'd like to point out that this institution has NO whatsoever advertisements made in any form of media till date so it rules out the point that we are using Wikipedia as "advertisement" for this institution. As the institution functions just on the students' need/requirements, word of mouth, goodwill, follow up and positive social work attitude of the members of the institution.
Hoping you'd go through the article again and kindly assess once again and reply positively. Thanks and Regards Anupvshenoy ( talk) 14:44, 31 May 2015 (UTC)Anup V S.
Anupvshenoy (
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17:19, 31 May 2015 (UTC) Hi DES
yes i shall do that. Plus if you feel there are any particular corrections to be made according to the WIKI norms, do inform.. Thanx and regards
Hi DESiegel. Once again I need the help of someone experienced. But this time it's not technical but more like "political." I'm trying to correct an error in an article. I made the appropriate correction, which was promptly reverted. Rather than getting involved in an "editing war," I contacted the reverter and tried to work something out, but to no avail. So I started a discussion on the article's talk page. All I ask of you is to check it out and weigh in with your opinion. The talk page is
Talk:Wanderer of the Wasteland (1945 film). Thanks!
Richard27182 (
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08:19, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I'm writing to you here, rather than on the talkpage of that film, since I think this is a side-issue and might take away from that discussion. After having taken a moment or two to actually look at Richard27182's requests on other editors' pages, it appears to me that it is clearly canvassing, "which is done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way is considered inappropriate". He did not simply contact editors and ask them to join the conversation, he asked several editors to join in a way designed to influence their input (stating that "I'm trying to correct an error in an article. I made the appropriate correction, which was promptly reverted"). Hopefully he'll understand what canvassing is now and not do it in the future. Or perhaps I'm not understanding what is meant by attempting to influence a discussion. Regardless, let me know if you think my interpretation is incorrect. Take it easy. Onel5969 ( talk) 23:07, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
David-- Thank you for your response. I have added references to the subject article. Should I remove the corresponding tag?
As for notability, I considered this before creating the article. Perhaps, as a fan of Stephen Bishop, I am biased. He has had several charting singles, gold and platinum records, been nominated for several Grammys and two Academy Awards. He has released over twenty albums and his songs have been recorded by many major artists (Barbra Streisand, Art Garfunkel, Phil Collins). This particular album is far from his best selling or most professional. However, I felt it important since it includes initial versions of songs that were later recorded on various studio albums. The overall worth could be debated with different outcomes by reasonable individuals, I'm sure.
Back to the subject of references. In most cases, I have not been citing references to information which is found on the jacket, liner notes, etc., of the subject album itself. This seems redundant. Should this be done? If so, how?
I'm very new at this (I created my first article earlier this week) so please forgive any missteps I've made. I have tried to read and consider the many different, and lengthy, guidelines provided but can't guarantee I've followed them all. It was very distressing to see an article I had spent time writing just disappear without explanation. Thanks again. Keesling ( talk) 06:29, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel. I had never heard of "canvassing" before, so I'm glad you mentioned it to me. The reason I contacted a few editors was to try to at least get a few people involved in the discussion because it did not seem to be going anywhere. I didn't base my choice of whom to contact on any expectation of their agreeing with me. (I would have had no way of knowing which side they would take on the issue in question.). They were simply editors I'd had contact with before and I felt comfortable contacting them (as opposed to contacting people out of the blue).
There is certainly no denying that I stated my side of the issue and not Onel5969's. I was not aware that this was inappropriate. So let me ask this: given that I did not select the recipients on any expectation of their agreeing with me, would I have been acting appropriately if I had included Onel5969's side; and if so, could I have done that by referencing or providing a link to his own message to me? (I forget if that was on his talk page or my talk page on the article's talk page; and would which page it was on make a difference?)
And generally speaking, when there is a disagreement between two editors about an article, and messages are posted on the article's talk page and nobody else is getting involved, what is the preferred way of getting more people involved in the discussion? (And please remember I am a novice, so please keep your answer simple and easy to understand.) And also please remember that, being a novice, it's inevitable that I am going to be making mistakes here and there. But I am always acting in good faith. Thank you.
Richard27182 (
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09:51, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi dear Siegel. Enwiki has a policy for removing inactive admins. But I see no action to apply this policy. (One third of admins had no administrative activity (and maybe edit) in more than one year!) Why does not remove the adminship of these inactive admins? Thanks. Mahdy Saffar ( talk) 07:19, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
no edits or administrative actionsfor a year. Thus an admin who has taken no admin actions for a year, but who has made edits during that year, does not have his or her admin rights removed.
Are there any previous revisions that were deleted accidentally? -- George Ho ( talk) 08:06, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel. In addition to my hypothetical and other question under the "Canvassing" section, I have one additional new question. Is it OK to post a direct link to a user/editor's personal user talk page. I can clarify my purpose for wanting to do it if the answer depends on it. Thanks
Richard27182 (
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12:45, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel. I saw your post at the Teahouse, but I think its better if I replied here than there since that question has already be answered and the template is only indirectly related to it. I'm not a template expert, but it seems fine to me. One thing is that I don't really see how your version of the article it is an improvement over
this version by
Fuhghettaboutit. My eyes are going bad as I get older, so this would be the first time I didn't "see" something. I think the template will probably be very helpful for newer editors or editors just creating a list article from scratch, but I'm not sure if it's going to lead to the eventual deprecation of "cite journal" or "cite book" in list articles. It's another option though, especially when there's no |title=
. You should let the editors at
WP:WPT know about it. They'd be good people to ask for more specific feedback. -
Marchjuly (
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07:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel. I'm filing a request for help with Wikipedia:Dispute resolution concerning that Technicolor dispute. If I understand the instructions correctly, I'm supposed to notify everyone who is or was involved in the discussion. In order to comply, I included your name
Richard27182 (
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09:04, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I just created a new article on this major Indian retail player - Vishal Mega Mart - and you deleted it even before I could contest it. Though the page was marked for speedy deletion, the company is a leading chain of retail stores in India, just like Wamart or 7-eleven in USA, has very prominent brand name with hundreds of stores throughout India. I was about to add reliable sources to support my claim, but you deleted it within a few minutes of creation of the page. Please undo the delete and help Wikipedia expand and grow. - 1pp2 14 June 2015 2:59am IST — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1pp2 ( talk • contribs) 21:28, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi , there are some photographs evidence on Wikipedia and linked to Vasudev V Shenoy. You can have them too as photographic evidences. Kindly go through... also if u can point out what is the intricate details interested to only a certain smaller group of people, I'd explain the importance of that information or straightaway take it off.
Anupvshenoy ( talk) 08:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DES,
Maximum texts have been corrected. If you could be more specific regarding the information such as intrinsic details and biased information, that shall be explained or removed. Also there is enough photographic evidence for now regarding the person's information mentioned here on the page. One person's close relation also I guess has been cleared out. Kindly have the page active soon without any notifications heading the page.
Thanks and regards Nayaksonal ( talk) 10:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
These are just a few example. All of this and much moe like it must go, in my view for this to be a valid article.
Hello. Would it be too weighty to go to the place in the entry where the song appears and add only (the song was featured in a Nationwide Insurance commercial called Toddlers in 2015)? And it does have an article. You Don't Know Me (Ben Folds song). I had that in my post. Can we add the Arkansas Traveler to it? Thank you. 108.54.16.72 ( talk) 16:00, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Datbubblegumdoe ( talk) 17:21, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi! It looks like as you were moving that article, it was being saved back in article space, so now there's 2 copies extant. The mainspace one is undergoing continued development, so this one may not be needed. Crow Caw 22:05, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
At Omen Phaze I was on the fence between speedy deletion and AfD, so I decided the best thing was to start by nominating it for speedy deletion, which was effectively a way of asking for another opinion. You gave that opinion, for which I am grateful, and I accept that the speedy deletion has been declined. However, I thought I would just let you know that, although I thought the article was borderline for speedy deletion, and was therefore prepared for a likely decline of my nomination, I do not at all agree with the reason you gave for doing so. These days, anyone who chooses to can compose, produce, and publish 4 solo albums, just as anyone can write and self-publish books: I personally know several people who have done so, but who are not within a million miles of being significant enough to be considered for inclusion in an encyclopaedia. The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 23:01, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Earlier today, you deleted two radio station articles per WP:A7. These would not have qualified for speedy deletion or deletion of any kind. They are protected by WP:NMEDIA, Common Outcomes, and community consensus many, many times over. The user who nominated the articles for deletion has been notified of this as well. Could you please restore the above listed articles immediately? Thank you.... Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:51, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I would appreciate your advice regarding The Winner Twins page SciFiChronicle ( talk) 17:43, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi, DESiegel. Thank for welcoming me here. I saw your user page. And your like a admin. How to be an administrator. That's my wish.-- BartOlley ( talk) 01:48, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi again. How can I design my signature?-- BartOlley ( talk) 02:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help. I will continue asking you to get some ideas here in Wikipedia. I will add you as my first friend in Wikipedia. BartyOlley talk 02:23, 17 June 2015 (UTC) |
I should have realised that would happen. Doug Weller ( talk) 12:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
hello sir, i have posted my first article on wiki but i copied the article from my church website verbatim because i am the website administrator and the webmaster how can i live it on wiki for people to read. please give a helping hand Profog.sda ( talk) 09:59, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
I checked your comment on my page 'Kuppiya' . I am completely new to Wikipeida and learning it with the help of all the experienced writers. my page kuppiya had been marked for 'speedy deletion '. could you please help me to solve this issue.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zakzee ( talk • contribs) 17:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
DESiegel, Thank you for your helpful suggestions about my editing the /info/en/?search=Draft:Joseph_W._Papin page. Sorry to be a pain but I wanted clarification about quoting. If I quote something from an article or book and put the reference next to the quote I thought I was giving credit to the person that said the quote. Do I need to write in the text something like John Smith said "ice cream saves lives..." or if the reference is right next to the quote and it says that John Smith is the author of the quote doesn't that suffice? Thank you for your help. I looked at your page and I am in awe of all that you have done on Wikipedia! Jrptwins ( talk) 19:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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I just wanted to say thank you for your time and effort in helping. You are awesome. And kind to assist others! I am continuing to take your suggestions and make the needed corrections. Jrptwins ( talk) 19:29, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Being that you've been here since February 2005, I thought I'd inform you that you are eligible for membership (such as it were) at Wikipedia:Ten Year Society. Just a drive by FYI, in the event you want to pursue it. TomStar81 ( Talk) 11:55, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of
Mahler on the Couch at the
Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath
your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!
Edwardx (
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19:36, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel. We haven't communicated in a while and I thought I'd say hello.
Also I have a question. It's not urgent, but when you have time maybe you could answer it for me. I often use {{ping|username}} when I write to or about someone (unless I'm posting to their own talk page or they've asked me not to "ping" them). But I've noticed that other editors (including you) sometimes use templates which seem to have a similar function, such as {{U|username}} and {{ul|username}}. I haven't been able to find these in any Wikipedia documentation (since they're only one or two letters, they're kind of hard to search for). Anyway I was hoping you could explain to me the difference between them, and which is most appropriate to use where and when. Thanks.
Richard27182 (
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05:33, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
{{U|Example}}
is basically a shorthand for [[User:Example]]
. Any of these will generate a notification if posted to a talk page as part of a signed comment (must be signed in the same edit or the notification doesn't happen). See
WP:Echo and the list below. Note also the "related templates" list in the documentation of both U and ping. I hope that is helpful.
DES
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11:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)User information templates provide informational links for a user; they are similar to signatures, but often provide additional information, and may be used by other users. List:
As the administrator who blocked User:J0eg0d (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 2 weeks (account creation blocked) (Personal attacks or harassment: Unsupported sock accusations and apparent attempted intimidation on User talk:Jimbo Wales) , you may be interested that they continued to make such allegations [1]. They were notified of the improper nature of such actions [2] , [3] and [4] . After a series of back and forths with an IP, User:J0eg0d 's response appears to be [5] -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel.
I have an unusual question that I don't think is likely to show up under any of the Wikipedia policies, and I'm hoping you can answer it for me. Suppose I'm considering making a small change to an article. Would it be OK to contact the author of the article (or the author of the section I'm considering modifying) in advance on their own talk page just to run the idea past them and get an idea of what kind of reaction the modification would draw? I don't think this would count as "canvassing" since, if anything, the editor I would be contacting would be more likely to be biased against my point of view. The whole purpose would be to try to avoid getting into any more contentious, argumentative battles like the one I'm currently involved in. As always, thank you for your help and advice.
Richard27182 (
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22:20, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
I saw it was highlighted and really just didn't understand so just changed it. I appreciate your input, suggestions and edits. Sorry I don't do this often or have your experience. mary Paulhus15 ( talk) 22:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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thank you Paulhus15 ( talk) 22:53, 27 June 2015 (UTC) |
Hello DESiegel, Wow, this is most impressive and most helpful! I really appreciate you help in uploading that organizational logo, with all the complicated rules surrounding that action. You cut thro it brilliantly. And thanks also for explaining, step by step, how you did it so I could do it myself another time. EMP ( talk) 00:51, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel,
I had a page deleted for copyright infringement issues (Paul Stanford), but the person who deleted it said that I used info from LinkedIn. The info used from LinkedIn was from the article's subject's own LinkedIn page and I had full permission to use it. I also used text from the subject's own website, with full permission. I can understand not using text from external press and media sources, but how is it a violation of copyright if I used text from the subject's own mouth, and with full permission. I don't understand the difference.
And how am I supposed to fix anything now if the article has been fully deleted? Is there some kind of appeal process for this? It's my first Wiki edit/creation so I want to get this stuff right so I don't waste a ton of time, which I've apparently done already. This is very frustrating to me, as not only did I not know I did anything wrong, but I don't know the path towards fixing things. Any clarity you can share with me is appreciated.
Thank you,
Christopher Sacredcocreation ( talk) 18:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi DESiegel,
Thanks for getting back to me. I really want to get this stuff right, and being a newbie editor I understand why Wiki needs to protect itself. It for the good of everyone. I'm just trying to learn this stuff and do the best I can, so any advice and input your have is definitely appreciated.
Mr. Stanford did give me permission to use text from any of his websites and social media. He originally email me this;
You have my permission to use anything on my LinkedIn profile and paul-stanford.com website for Wikipedia. I have previously given Wikipedia permission to use my photographs for their entries on John Trudell and Jack Herer.
Yours truly,
Paul Stanford
Because he needs to give the rest of the world permission to use his materials, for any reason or gain, I then email him back this form as per the suggestions from Happysquirrel;
I hereby affirm that CHOOSE ONE: [I, (name here), am] OR [I represent (copyright holder's name), ] the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of CHOOSE ONE: [the media work] OR [the work depicted in the media] OR [both the work depicted and the media] CHOOSE ONE: [URLs of the content] OR [attached images/text].
I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International. (THIS IS THE STANDARD CHOICE; YOU MAY CHOOSE ANOTHER ACCEPTABLE FREE LICENSE, IF YOU WISH TO)
I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.
I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.
I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.
I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.
[Sender's name] [Sender's authority (If applicable. E.g. "Copyright holder", "Director", "Appointed representative of", etc.)] [Date]
Is this form the one that he should use to grant permission? I should be receiving it back from him anytime with the info filled in.
I think I would rather try to get permission to use the text that I've already created on the Wiki entry. If I can't get the article approved this way then I guess I'd start all over, but that seems to be alot more work.
In any case I will do what it takes to follow the Wiki guidelines so I can get the article approved. I've probably got 40 or 50 hours into it so far with everything I've done. I never expected to put so much time into it, but being a newbie I had to learn everything from scratch. Obviously I'm still learning :)
Thanks again for your help and suggestions.
Kind regards,
Christopher — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacredcocreation ( talk • contribs) 21:39, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks DESiegel,
I've let Mr. Stanford know what needs to be done. He will send the copyright release form off to the <permissions-en@wikimedia.org> address. The release should be for the two websites, the main sources of some of the info I put on his Wiki page. In any case they are his own words and from what I can tell it appears that we have violated his copyright, even though I had his permission to do so. But I understand that I needed to get a more formalized copyright permission from him and that's what I'm doing now.
Then I guess I'll just wait until we get through this part and then take a look at the (hopefully) undeleted page to see if there's more corrections and/or improvements that need to be made. I already got all the correct permissions for the images that I used, and submitted everything to Wiki Commons correctly. Now I just have to get the correct permissions for some of the text that was used of Mr. Stanford's own website and his LinkedIn page. After that I hope I'm good to go.
Thanks again,
Christopher
Sacredcocreation ( talk) 23:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
for your helpful thoughts and suggestions for my article. I will go back and make changes and corrections over the next few days. I appreciate you dropping by and giving me your knowledge and input. mary Paulhus15 ( talk) 23:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
one further question; once an article is cited in the bio and solo career, since I should not cite the same source again in the discography, must I find an additional source or is one source adequate. I am trying hard to give proof of all my information to keep it accurate and perhaps over doing. thank you again for your thoughts Paulhus15 ( talk) 00:17, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
<ref name="Jones69">{{cite book |last=Jones |first=Bob |title=How to Play the Guitar |date=1969 |page=27}}</ref>
and use it like that in one place in an article, when you want to cite this same source elsewhere, you simply add <ref name="Jones69" />
. (Note the closing slash (/), it is important.) That tells the wiki software that this is a 2nd occurance of the first reference, and to display it as such. Here is an example:Playing the guitar is very easy. [1] Almost anyone can do it. But practice is needed to do it well. [1] People learn by different methods. [2] A good instructor can be very helpful. [1] But many great players were self-taught. [2]
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thank you so much for your amazing energy, help and encouragement! Paulhus15 ( talk) 09:06, 29 June 2015 (UTC) |