...that aikido, kendo, and to a lesser extent judo and karate all originated in Asia but are now practiced primarily by westerners? That's the impression I get from the (distribution of) photographs in our articles on them, anyway.
Seriously, it's really weird that the infobox of the aikido article lists famous practitioners who are all but two Japanese, and Japan has won the kendo world championships something like ten times as often as every other country combined, but our articles make it look like they have since the nineteenth century been primarily non-Japanese phenomena. The judo and karate articles are a little less problematic (primarily because few of the faces are visible), but the photos there come across as vanity picks taken by the parents of the subjects. (Yes, I know the faces are all concealed in the kendo article, but the European names of the subjects, who appear to be non-famous private individuals, are all visible.)
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That was quite a sequence of edits on the film Ran which you did. Any interest on your part to possibly review it if I do the GA nomination. JohnWickTwo ( talk) 02:49, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi Curly, I just wanted to offer a quick apology for this edit. I was moving too fast and misclicked the rollback button, I undid it but with errors like that I'd prefer to apologize personally. Best wishes.-- Church Talk 08:58, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
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If you want the page to be removed, ask for it. Xx236 ( talk) 11:52, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
All these politically-motivated changes to the national anthem are getting under my skin. We should go back to Weir's original translation—gender-neutral and secular:
... although cramming the three-syllable pa-tri-ot into two still sticks in my craw. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I was looking back at the contribs of one of my alt-accounts for reasons just now, and remembered this for the first time in a long time; it was 3-1 in favour of deletion for almost a full week, and then within a single day five more people suddenly showed up and all !voted to keep and a non-admin closes it having clearly not read the discussion (one of the unambiguous delete !votes became a "maybe" and another was completely ignored, and the timing made it anything but WP:SNOW). And this was apparently the result of a WikiProject that was at least in that case used for the specific purpose of canvassing keep !votes in AFDs: I don't recall ever encountering them again, but the project doesn't seem to have been formally retired, so if it still serves that function it really seems like a problem.
This reminded me a bit of what happened at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Korean influence on Japanese culture; the latter obviously shouldn't be re-opened given the great work you, Nish and others did to fix the article (at least to the point that WP:TNT no longer applies), but I'm really wondering about Mottainai. Apparently no one has done any work in the last five years to fix its problems or demonstrate how it is not a dictionary entry combined with a puff piece to promote a social programme, and I'm really not convinced the original deletion rationales don't apply (and the close was way out of line).
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 11:50, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
You can use {{ od}} ("outdent"). Your keyboard makes a standard hyphen, but what you're looking for is an en dash (see MOS:DASH). It's pretty hairsplitting, especially outside of article space—feel free to revert it if you don't like it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Without wanting to be pedantic, and it's likely that you are already fully aware of this, but for the sake of those who check diffs, it would make a "diff" if the number of changes to any given section that appear in the article history and on our watchlists could be minimized....I try to remember to use the "Show Preview" button until I am sure that the changes are what I want. For example, your group of 21 edits to Singular they would have appeared as 10-11 edits instead, much easier to look through. I have sinned against this myself often enough, and it is just a suggestion... Clean Copy talk 00:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
"I really do not care if your disgusting personal attack contributed to the 'problem' or not." And here is one of the biggest problems with ANI—so many participants don't actually give two shits if someone's contributing to a problem, they just want drahmah and lots-o'-blocks. Meanwhile, we've got editors who spend years disrupting both article space and talk-page discussions that ANI time and time again refuses to deal with ... Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:52, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Wait for consensus to form. There's no timeline. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 07:34, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi, will you revert this please? I'm out of reverts. ― Mandruss ☎ 23:02, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
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I've been rewriting our article on Akazome Emon, with my main source being an article by Hiroko Saito. Thing is, the previous version was apparently (it had no inline citations) based on writings by Hiroaki Sato and Earl Miner, Hiroko Odagiri. Nothing really important for the project; I just thought it was an amusing coincidence. :P Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 11:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
I really wish that talk page wasn't such a hot bed at the moment and we could engage in friendly if slightly off-topic banter freely. Anyway...
one could argue it's not even particularly Japanese
This reminded me of a humorous Facebook post an American friend of mine once made having just bought a box ("tube"?) of cookies in a konbini; inside the box was a plastic wrapper; when he opened the wrapper, each cookie was individually wrapped; and this wasn't even the kind of omiyage where they were meant to be distributed to coworkers and left on the desks of absentees, but a snack suitable for one or at most two people. "Japan has a unique aversion to wastefulness" is like "Japan has a unique tendency to take train schedules with a pinch of salt" in terms of its hilarious anachronism.
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 12:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
You posted in more than one place the claim that anime and manga have no (distinct) plural forms, because they are non-count nouns, not because they are Japanese words. Strictly speaking, I think, this is a non-sequitur, because non-count nouns still have plural forms: "milks", "cheeses", and so on. I do not believe there exists a non-count noun which cannot be plural. Even putting that aside, I realise I have no experience of the real use of anime or manga in English. I suppose I regard them mostly as genres, in which case they are uncountable, but given a マンガ本, does one not say "There's a manga"... in which case "There's another one" means that there are two manga(s), and this is definitely not a non-count usage.
Thanks for your work on Mottainai; I wil try to look at it some time. The grammatical description has been cleaned up, but it could simple describe the word as an adjective, and point out that (like any other adjective) it can be used attributively or predicatively, and automatically forms a free-standing exclamation. But it's difficult to know how to approach this: what does "adjective" mean, for example: there are any number of different sets of terminology, and I have a (real, smelly-paper) book that includes the claim that "Japanese has no adjectives". Imaginatorium ( talk) 07:49, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 11:29, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Even though not mandatory, it is a good policy to notify about a move review to the editor who closed the move. But when you falsely accused me of
confirming that I "closed [the move] on a mere show of hands and "merely stated what a lot of editors expressed" re WP:COMMONNAME." At that time you should have notified me, or at least pinged me there. You quoted me completely out of context. I never said "I merely counted the show of hands". Here is the
special:diff/830009227 of that particular comment. I specifically said No matter what the reasoning behind it is, it is clear that the community wanted the page to be moved. I still support my close, if you think the consensus was in favour of not moving; then please free to open a move review.
That is consensus. Now, if possible, kindly let me know how can my comment be interpreted as "I closed [the move] on a mere show of hands"? Also, kindly let me know what your definition of consensus is.
In case you dont remember the conversation, here is the link to archive: User talk:Usernamekiran/Archives/5#Suzukake_Nanchara. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
This is my last communication with you.
In any case, I will not contact you again. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Hey, given this I'm increasingly surprised that ANI thread didn't lead to a block. I suspect it might have something to do with your pulling a Hijiri2015-style goof and getting drawn into extensive (TLDR) back-and-forths (I also noticed your ongoing ANI thread about another editor -- you seem to be in the right there as well, but I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to read through it). Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 12:03, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Pretty hilarious. An editor who really, really dislikes me, and never otherwise posts to ANI unless it's in a thread about him, shows up to undermine me, and the editor I reported thanks him as a "neutral third party".
Any lingering doubt I had that SC420 was trolling is basically gone at this point. Maybe we should just ping the admin who blocked him last time he made counter- consensus IDHT edits on a BLP?
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 08:53, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
@ Hijiri88: I refer to Adamstom. And the discussion on my Talk Page was mainly about Curly and the collective final warning. You were only mentioned in passing in a discussion referenced by this one and directly branching from it. Dark Knight 2149 06:55, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I wonder why it's titled SANCTIONGAMING, as it doesn't seem to have anything to do with sanctionsYeah, I know. I first saw it out of context and assumed it meant taking advantage of other editors' preexisting sanctions in order to win disputes (like what certain editors did repeatedly with an IBAN I appealed last March).
his performance at those two ANIsWait, which ones? I only recall one recently, but since you weren't involved I suspect that's not what you're referring to.
such a black-and-white, unrepentant POV-pusher as NNWhy would you call Nocturnalnow ( talk · contribs) an unrepentant POV-pusher? You and he seem to be basically on the same "side". :P But seriously, abbreviating people's usernames in cases like this is a bitch. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 08:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I bookmarked the diffs that NN sent me, but am otherwise unfamiliar with this user. If you can show me diffs of such "black and white" vandalism, I'll be happy to look at them. I'm not sure how one conversation gave you the idea that we're now Batman and Robin but, in terms of accusing other users of disruption (especially those who call out your behaviour), you honestly don't hold much credibility at this point. I don't doubt that you have dealt with genuine disruption in the past, but the only thing I really want is for you to be honest and civil, and to stop gaming the system for your own ends. I myself have been wondering at times whether or not you believe your own lies, but there's no excuse for some of the things you say and do (which were and are clearly deliberate).
Of course, I know you'll deny until the end of time, so I don't know why I'm trying to get through to you. Maybe it's because of your extensive contributions or whatever, but if I have to report one of you, I will be covering every single moment with diffs to back it up (which means I will have to simultaneously report several other users, who were specifically tagged at the final warning). If you won't behave for yourself, do it for them. You can deny responsibility, but it would be wise for you to take what I'm saying into consideration instead of spinning a deeper web as you are now. Dark Knight 2149 16:30, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
CT thinks he's Supermanor
but Bruce Wayne would have a different view? Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:51, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
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I did a complete re-write of the article about Lill-Babs that died a few days ago. If you find time for it, take a look. Any help is appreciated. BabbaQ ( talk) 14:52, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
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... that BLPs were subject to discretionary sanctions? [8] 'Cause I didn't!
That might actually be a better option in the long-run than an ANEW or ANI block request. AE is, in my experience, faster and more effective than ANI in cases like this. Mind you, we might well be stuck just waiting for them to pull the same stunt again, now that the page is protected. Sorry for the fuck-up on that front -- things happened a lot faster than I expected.
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Blocked + one other. Thanks very much.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 22:01, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi CT! Re [9]: I had in mind cases where it's neither known nor assumed. -- Middle 8 ( t • c | privacy • COI) 01:08, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that a bot removed some of the archived links we had in the Garage rock article. I was wondering if we should reinstate them? Gobble gobble. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 02:20, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Good day Sir, thank you for the reminder, due to the articles of famous Japanese characters like Kido Takayoshi, Saigō Takamori, Kondō Isami, Saitō Hajime, etc, most of them are SURNAME-FORENAME based, I am not fully aware that I had go against the MOS:JAPAN. The article Yamashita Tomoyuki page move was approved at the Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests (view history), and it shall ends there. I had stopped and I will apologies for all inconvenience caused. I will offer to undo the process should you give a green light.
I kinda wanna vent about something that just happened (specifically I suspect another user was "triggered" by my linking referencing a concept in feminist literary criticism), but it would involve spoiling parts of the film. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:10, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for your edits to the List of Important Tangible Folk Cultural Properties. Regarding this edit, the and ??? referred to 改良形用具. Do you have any idea how to translate this part? bamse ( talk) 14:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I just got a notice that someone tried (and failed) to log in to my account. I haven't logged in recently ... so ... someone with a grudge? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:48, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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I was unaware that this word refer[red] to a style of Western-influenced [Japanese cuisine] which originated during the Meiji Restoration
. I mean, I know at in English it tends to be used more for "western-style" food that was actually invented in Japan, but even then specifying that by definition it originated during the Meiji Restoration (not even the Meiji period, but specifically the Meiji Restoration!) seems like bullshit. And it probably should say that in Japanese the word just means "western food, whether or not it originates in Japan". And the more I read the messier it gets -- yeah,
castella might be called 洋食, but it predates Meiji...
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[10] Five months late to the punch on this one, but I was just scrolling through the page, noticed this, and initially thought I had made a misprint. "Uno no Obito Ohito"? (笑) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 11:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
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Do DF's recent AFD comments look to you like he intends to turn Mottainai Grandma into a POVFORK of Mottainai after we excised most of the bullshit "ancient Chinese secret" stuff from the latter? 'Cause they look like that to me. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 23:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Can you clarify or remove this comment at AN3 please? It is either an inscrutable reference to private matters or it must be a gibe against someone. The report is about to get archived anyway, and no further action is expected. Thank you, EdJohnston ( talk) 16:00, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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The image reviewer on my current FAC has raised a couple concerns that I'm not sure are valid. One is about whether or not a caption needs a citation, the other is about whether the full cover image needs to be used. She has significantly more experience with FAs than I do, so I thought solicit your opinion before moving forward. You can reply here or at the FAC - she openly invited opinions from other editors on the second point. Argento Surfer ( talk) 12:54, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
I really don't want to be the one to fix this, especially given that he's definitely going to accuse me of "hounding" him for checking his contribs for the errors I know he's going to make, and he did make even while the ANI thread was still open. Yeah, provoking him into hurling a string of attacks against me would likely get him blocked, but I really don't want to have to file another ANI report immediately after the last one was closed, even if the closer did tell me that next time he does it I can point to the last one and the warning.
Would you mind changing "novel" to "book"? I hate to ask you to take responsibility for this somewhat dubious content by fixing that detail but not blanking or fixing the whole sentence. The cited source says around 150 letters were used, but it doesn't necessarily imply they were the main resource as our text does, and verifying the content is more work than it's normally worth in cases like this -- it's a given that such works utilize primary sources, which in the case of eighteenth-century colonial America probably would be mostly letters, so the content is pretty meaningless as written.
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 13:27, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
I just noticed that the other "part" of the edit is also characteristically ungrammatical: "the Culper's spy ring" is not used in either the source or our article. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 13:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
The book incorporates research done on roughly 150 letters.Giving Rose's full name twice in a row is terrible writing, even if it was a non-fiction novel naming and linking the literary genre in this manner would be super-awkward, and saying the book incorporates "research on letters" is probably equivalent to saying the the book incorporates "research", so the number of letters is important. Naming Washington and the spy ring can be taken or left, although honestly if I'm interpreting the source correctly it would be more accurate and interesting to say the letters were by
George Washington and "Samuel Culper", a codename used by those in the spy ring, although a clearer source would be needed for this. All in all, just a mess. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 21:47, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Hey, Dream Focus—I'm not interested in getting in a dispute over this, but Hijiri's criticisms are on the mark. I tried googling for "novel" in reference to this book, and got nothing, and the prose was certainly awkward. I've taken a stab at what I hope is a non-controversial rewording. Do you have anything to say about it? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:57, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
And honestly now, as large as Wikipedia is, surely you have other things to concern yourselves with other than me saying "novel" instead of "book" at times.CT might interpret this as meaning "Keep your mitts off my articles", but I honestly think it looks a lot more like "stop stalking me". Note that this was a claim made multiple times in the month or so before JoshuSasori ( talk · contribs) got himself blocked, and its also one of the personal attacks for which you were recently censured. Yes, I and most of the commenters were primarily concerned with a particular group of attacks, but "You are stalking/following/hounding me" is still a personal attack, and you are strongly advised to avoid saying things that could be read that way. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 05:51, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
This is pretty hilarious. Presumably he can see something that neither I nor the reFill tool he used can see, but ... Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 09:27, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
So a month ago we had a guy whose kabane was almost identical to his personal name and Superman; now we have Super Mario. Sadly it doesn't seem to be known what his court rank, if any, may have been, because "従七位下水道" would have been pretty hilarious. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:48, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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"Anime-style" is a really questionable turn of phrase by itself in that context, but I'm having trouble wrapping my head about what to do with the quote Funnily enough, we showed our Japanese cohorts RWBY and they started arguing about whether it was anime or not!
Obviously, 99% of Japanese people would not argue for a second that it is not anime, so presumably what was meant was "Japanese-American cohorts" or "English-speaking Japanese cohorts residing in the United States" and they were going by the English definition of anime, but the wording she actually used makes it really problematic as it gives the impression that that distinction actually exists for Japanese people.
I guess it's not entirely irrelevant to vent to you about this, since it does harken back a little to that "... (OVA)" disambiguator shit from a few months back, where a relatively obscure term for a concept that doesn't actually exist in the real world was ... ah, forget it; I'm pretty sure that worked out in the end.
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 23:31, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
English got the word information from (Norman) French, where the word is countable.It's kinda off-topic, but that's actually an interesting question. I would think that at the time the word was borrowed into English it was (exclusively) uncountable in Norman French. There doesn't seem to be any reason to assume it was always countable in French
Certainly twenty years ago you wouldn't have gotten away with "I watched an anime last night"—you'd have to've said "I watched some anime last night"As far as I can tell as long as the word anime has existed in Japanese it's been used in the senses of "an animated film" or "an animated television series", so using it in English to refer to "a Japanese animated film or television series" (= "an anime") would make sense. This is kind complicated by the fact that, at least according to this guy, "anime" in English is a kind of replacement word for "Japanimation", which, yeah, would sound weird even to me if used countably.
The line in the RWBY article is worse because it's a series—calling it "an anime" wouldn't make sense even if countable anime were indeed standardNot really: like I said, it refers to "a Japanese animated series"; it could also refer to "an episode of a Japanese animated series", but that would, if anything, be the less common usage because one doesn't often talk about the genre, style or country of origin of individual entries in series. (I briefly considered writing a satyric comment on Talk:Red vs. Blue (season 14) asking if episodes 9, 10 and 11 were also "anime-style" as their animation style is identical to RWBY, but figured that would be a bit pointy and no one would notice anyway.)
according to this, the earliest attestations of the word are countable (and in the plural).Good catch, and that's really interesting (although I just checked, and the free online edition of OED, though not my denshijisho copy, gives basically the same info [21]), but those are still pretty late attestations (200+ years after the Norman conquest of England), and don't really answer the question given that the uncountable sense does appear to exist in modern French (I must admit my French is super rusty, though) and cognates in other languages that also got the word from Latin also seem to be a bit schizophrenic on the matter (although my Danish, Swedish and Latin are not "rusty" so much as non-existent).
It's hard to prove, because any search for "an anime" will inevitably turn up reams of hits with it being used as an adjunctI've found you can counter this phenomenon by looking at the first hit, then adding -"[whatever that first hit was]" to the search. I don't actually doubt that you are right to believe "Japanese animation" is the original and more formal sense, and it doesn't make a difference to my Wikipedia editing, since I'm such a stickler for "either use plain English or use the Japanese words in the technically correct Japanese sense" that I die a little inside every time common Wikipedia practice forces me to use "samurai"; if I had my way Yakushiji Kin'yoshi would be either a warrior or a member of the bushi or buke class, so as long as I have a choice I don't use "anime" to begin with.
the first time I heard anime from someone's lips (rather than in print) was in a presentation in art class circa 1994 (the guy pronounced it as if it were French: "ah-neem"; I had a good chuckle, although I don't know why I knew better—I didn't start learning Japanese until 1996)True story: I first heard it (never saw it in print until much later) in either 1997 or 1998 from my Canadian cousin (born in Canada to an Irish mother -- my father's sister -- and Canadian father), who pronounced it /ˈænəmi/ with an /i/. This actually made some sense given the most common pronunciations of both karate and kamikaze in English, and how Pokemon was pronounced a lot. I suspect that's why the latter developed an accent aigu in its official spelling, and why one sometimes sees anime written with one as well. I pronounced it /ˈænəmi/ for quite some time as a result.
Funny, so many foreigners in Japan today are manga otaku, but when I first came, virtually none of the foreigners I knew here could stand the stuff—they were either here for the easy money (much easier back then, even that long after the bubble burst) or the skirt-chasing.I actually don't seem to encounter that many people I would describe as specifically manga otaku, or at least they don't try to talk to me about it. Granted, most of the foreigners I talk to are ALT colleagues, and back when I was on JET that could be explained with the "easy money" thing, and even now that the only JETs I talk to are people who arrived when I was in my last year and got lucky with a fifth year on their contract, most of the non-JET teachers I talk to, while they don't necessarily talk about anime and manga a whole lot, definitely are into the whole "nerd culture" at least as much as I am.
Does this remind you of anyone? 1,400 edits, and 300 of them to GANs and FACs, and an argumentative style that consensus is needed not to violate policy. Not implying sockpuppetry, just that we might have a similar problem on our hands. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:29, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
More belligerent horseshit. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:46, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
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Hey, as usual I appreciate your help on User:Hijiri88/Medieval Japanese literature, but I'm a bit concerned that since both of us have very incrementalist editing styles and tend to make large numbers of edits in short time frames, and this is amplified for me when the pages are still in my userspace, there might be edit conflicts, which are annoying, and these could be avoided if you waited until I moved them into the mainspace. (This, plus the fact that fixing little errors like last→lasted is a great way to up my beloved mainspace edit rate, and your "stealing" them from me before I've even moved the page into the mainspace is kinda mottainai from my point of view. :P ) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 02:20, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Minamoto no Yoritomo appointed shogunsupposedly happened on that date, which I guess might be a misinterpretation of something else (he was obviously a 将軍 a lot longer than he was the 征夷大将軍, but the English word only refers to the latter), but none of the Yoritomo entries on Kotobank seem to imply anything of biographical significance other than the victory at Dan-no-Ura happened that year. The closest that comes up is that someone else (on closer inspection it seems to have been Minamoto no Yoshinaka) was appointed shogun in 1184. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:22, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I know I asked you just above not to edit my userspace drafts, but there's something I want your advice on (as the one who introduced me to the template in the first place): what do you think about this? Daikakuji-tō and Jimyōin-tō both currently exist as redirects to the articles on their own direct successors, but this strikes me as being equivalent to redirecting Whig Party (United States) to Republican Party (United States) and Democratic-Republican Party to Democratic Party (United States), with the distinction that it's actually worse, since at least all four of those are political parties rather than rival states ( Whig Party (United States)→ United States of America and Democratic Party (United States)→ Confederate States of America).
So naturally in the long run separate pages will need to be built. But is Illm only for redlinks? I recall a bot fixing one at some point when I eventually created a full article to be linked, but I'm not sure how it deals with pages that are currently redirects, and I suspect that if it doesn't recognize them maybe it should be made to because of placeholder redirects like these ones.
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 08:52, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I just started a new section on this talk page to make the album ratings template reflect the critic consensus instead of defualt-ly including sources like AllMusic, even if their rating is not reflective of it. I know you seemed to agree with this when I brought it up before, would you like to weigh in? -- Bobtinin (talk) 01:23, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
Sorry to trouble you. Was wondering if you could take a pass at Jack Kirby and see if you had any suggestions as I'm thinking of submitting it to WP:FA. Appreciate anything you can offer, no matter how small. Hiding T 16:43, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I think using Template:Tq would be better. With short quotes red looks quite like a red-link, and it looks kinda ... angry (at least to me), even though I'm pretty sure that's not your intent. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:18, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Ceoil: When you add a ping to someone as you did here, the ping won't work unless the comment is re-signed (yes, I realize it was Victoriaearle's comment, so you couldn't really have done that, but just so you'd know). I've known for years the two of you have an intense dislike for me—there you are slandering me up and down that talk page despite my weeks of silence (as well as at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Ceoil)—but, seriously now, you seem to be suggesting that the Arbs are protecting me or something (of course, nobody's buying it, or rising to the ridiculous bait—the evidence is all public). I mean, Jesus fucking Christ already.
Get better soon, Victoriaearle—I wouldn't wish kidney stones on an enemy (and I don't consider you one, even if you obviously do me). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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I mean, unlike some other people he doesn't have an unnervingly clean block log, but it really should be a lot longer when this is the way he has been engaging with me since his very first reply to me (or maybe the second, which was worse) in our very first encounter, meaning he almost certainly reacts this way to everyone. Heck, his behaviour in this thread alone should have been enough for a block.
User:Swarm is kinda-sorta WP:INVOLVED at this point, given that he issued the warning that led to the recent incident, and I'm genuinely afraid of what will happen if I open an ANI thread less than six months after this mess (which led to the other user getting blocked and still not getting the message but I still didn't come off great).
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First of all, excellent work bringing Little Nemo to featured status! It's really interesting reading. I've been working on expanding our article on John Bunny—one of McCay's unnamed artist friends from the film—and I ran into a small issue you might be able to help me with. The source I've been using to build the filmography section of Bunny's article doesn't list Little Nemo as one of his films, but it's such an interesting piece of work that I want to include it. I notice that the article on Little Nemo only lists its run time, not physical length (1 reel, 2 reels, 1,500 feet, etc.) My source, on the other hand, only provides the physical length of Bunny's films. Do you know whether any sources list the physical length of McCay's film? If so, I'd love to know so as to be consistent. This is such a minor issue that I don't know if it's worth bothering you over, but it would make me inordinately happy to get is sorted out. Lord Bolingbroke ( talk) 21:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Proposal: make subjects actively in the news ineligible for GANs and FACs. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:20, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
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In the "assassination" section on the Abraham Lincoln page, can you change the words “According to eyewitnesses, he face was fixed in a smile when he expired” to “According to some accounts, at his last drawn breath, on the morning after the assassination, he smiled broadly and then expired”? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.98.41 ( talk) 09:47, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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Hi,
Recently I began moving pages of Japanese place names (for example: Totsukawa, Nara) in accordance to what I interpreted this sentence in MOS:JPPLACE
"For cities, use the form [[{city-name}, {prefecture-name}]]; for example, Mishima, Shizuoka. Exception: For designated cities, use [[{city-name}]] without appending the prefecture unless disambiguation from another city or prefecture is necessary.
For districts, use the form [[{district-name} District, {prefecture-name}]]; for example, Aki District, Kōchi.
For towns and villages, use the form [[{town or village-name}, {prefecture-name}]]; for example, Fujikawa, Yamanashi."
Additionally, most Japanese place articles also follow this naming convention.
I saw that you reverted a lot of my page moves, saying that I "totally misunderstood MOS:JPPLACE". I feel like my interpretation is correct, as most of my moves were of towns and villages that are not designated cities. How should these articles be titled, in your opinion?
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I will nominate Sharon Dyall for DYK inclusion later today. Take a look if you like. BabbaQ ( talk) 09:15, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Your move was misguided, as the word "ninja" is already plural when needed (just like "samurai" and other such words), and anyway this is about a concept of the ninja. Please revert yourself asap. SNAAAAKE!! ( talk) 17:04, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
'You're absolutely wrong, saying "ninjas" is as wrong as saying " samurais", " sais", " animes", etc. It's a Japanese word. See the ninja article (which is also "ninja" and not "ninjas") and count how many times "ninjas" passed through the editors (without my input) as opposed to "ninja" - I'll tell you, it's exactly 3 vs 161 (while in samurai "samurais" appears 1 time compared to 267 instances of "samurai"). There's 0 "animes" on Wikipedia, 0 " mangas" (only 1 in a French source link), 0 "sais", 0 " shurikens", 4 " katanas" (out of 57), 0 " ronins", and so forth, because it's Japanese words that are already plural whenever needed. Now go and revert yourself. SNAAAAKE!! ( talk) 08:36, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Cool for you, I don't care. There's also 0 " mangas" (only 1 in a French source link), 0 " wakizashis", 0 " tachis", 0 " soheis", 0 " yamabushis", 0 " kunais", and so forth (and 0 " otakus" for that matter), which I guess you will now run to "correct" too? As I said, just revert yourself - to what is the norm on the Wikipedia. Bye! SNAAAAKE!! ( talk) 09:03, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I know we've had some less than pleasant interactions in the past about comic books. I feel like I have been the bad element in those by being overly abrasive and uncivil. I'm very sorry about that, I realize that I have issues with my temper and that I am in need of bettering myself. I just want to apologize right now, so that I don't leave any stuff in the air if I will be unable to return for a long time. I'm sorry. ★Trekker ( talk) 05:10, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Saw you added a caption to Template:AMD Epyc and initially tried to align navbar and caption vertically (so the edit links are moved down a bit), but let it be because it increased the blank space above, and I couldn't work out how to fix it.
Today I saw some content got removed from a different table template, which I noticed was down to the table being transcluded in two different articles, one about AMD APUs in general, the other specifically about the Jaguar micro-architecture. So wanted to add some clarification, e.g. a caption, note or heading.
I remembered that you added a caption to the other table but ended up altering the navbar-table template to use a heading instead.
Currently added the heading text inside Template:AMD custom APU, which means all articles transcluding the table would have the same heading. An alternative would be to pass on a parameter instead, so each article using this particular table could have a different or no heading.
Basically just informing you that there is a second option now and you can choose between caption and heading. — Pizzahut2 ( talk) 21:11, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for looking out-he's a dickhead.-- Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 09:05, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi. In the past you've offered your opinion in choosing photos for the Infobox. Can you offer your opinion in this discussion on a related topic? It may go toward a precedent regarding captions. Thanks, and Happy Holidays. Nightscream ( talk) 19:55, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
It's no coincidence that after this, you've shown up at the Supercouple and Vagina articles. What article is next? How many articles will be out of your area of expertise? I'll enjoy taking you to WP:ANI, considering that every editor who has stalked/hounded me has been reprimanded and/or sanctioned in one way or another. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 07:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Reported at WP:ANI. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 07:57, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
I don't know you Curly but I can say that I would be furious if you would suddenly turn up at any articles that I work on. Curly, you say you do that all the time and no one complains but you can bet your bottom dollar that they are god damn pissed off if they are experienced editors and feel like they are being shamed if they are new.is ... well, becoming "furious" or getting "god damn pissed off" over such a minor affair is not the mark of an experienced editor who is fitted to working in a collaborative environment. No one "owns" any of our articles, and if someone shows up to make MOS fixes to an article you are working you should be thankful for their assistance. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 15:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
CT, I was, a few months back, accused of hounding for the act of using the AFD stats tool and requesting that editors not try to evade the scrutiny afforded by said tool, and you can Ctrl+F this guy's contribs for "hound" for a few more bizarre hounding accusations, so I honestly find the idea that this has never happened to you before a bit incredible. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 07:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Remember Talk:Nagano (city) this summer? Well, it's recently come to my attention that Kochi Prefecture has some of the worst examples (multiple separate municipalities named "Tosa", etc.). Shimanto, Kōchi is a disambig page, but Shimanto redirects to Shimanto, Kōchi (city)! (I'm not actually sure if it's the primary topic, since both it and the neighbouring town are very small, but either way Shimanto, Kōchi (town) should almost certainly be at Shimanto (town in Kōchi), no?) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:59, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
parentheses where city and pref are the same, but <City>, <Pref> otherwise. I'd be in favour of applying parentheses across the board, and definitely never, ever using both comma and parentheses.
I'm curious why you reverted my change of the Nanjing page. If you've lived in Japan, you certainly must understand there are differing accounts of what happened and so the word "differing" is more appropriate than the loaded, biased term "revisionist". For instance, it could be said that the International Settlement was basically the heart of Europe's corruption of China, and that Europe's money had been corrupting China for a hundred years. Regardless of separate issues of Japanese Imperialism in Manchuria, 南京 was most likely severely corrupt from the influence of the International Settlement. China could be said to have been the occupied territory of Europe. And then this "Amongst all this, Shanghai was notable for a long period as the only place in the world that unconditionally offered refuge for Jews escaping from the Nazis." The only place in the world...
Can we be absolutely sure of who is "revising" history here? We have a pretty good idea of ballpark facts for things hundreds or even thousands of years earlier, how many soldiers died in the Napoleonic wars, that Napoleon was exiled twice, etc., for instance, but for some reason World War II is shrouded in confusion. "revisionist" is a biased term used by one side to discredit the other. Wikipedia cannot be a source of knowledge if it takes sides.
So please clarify your comment of "definitely not in this case"? Peterius ( talk) 20:47, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Greetings Curly Turkey,
I just wanted to explain why I
moved the discussion on "Commas after short introductory phrases" above that of "Style discussions ongoing". If you read the "Style discussions ongoing" section, someone has added Add new items at top of list; move to Concluded when decided and summarize conclusion. Comment at them if interested. Please keep this section at the bottom of the page.
As this is an ongoing discussion, I think the idea was to keep that at the bottom, but I'm not fussed either way. If we don't want to do that, we should probably eliminate that line so it doesn't keep getting moved. Cheers!
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Hey, I recall one e-mail exchange we had a while back about you-know-who, in which I linked you to a video of Orly Taitz being interviewed by ... Chris Matthews, I think, and the host eventually cut her off and compared her to Trump, and you expressed surprise that such an old video (it was from 2010 or 2011) would be talking about Trump. I wouldn't blame a Canadian in Japan for not being completely up on the 2012 US Republican primaries (I only knew about them because I was watching The Young Turks religiously at the time), but he was at the time considered to be one of the leaders of the so-called "birther" movement.
The reason I'm bringing this up here is because it's fun to refer on-wiki to off-wiki discussions about "you-know-who" and let others wonder who that is (even though if they were as familiar with our history as they sometimes claim it'd be really feckin' obvious); the reason I'm bringing it up now is because I recently watched the excellent Netflix documentary Trump: An American Dream, which goes into some detail on the matter, and if you can watch it I really recommend it. I forget if you ever mentioned to me whether you had a Netflix subscription, and it really sucks that oftentimes stuff made for Netflix never gets a DVD release because it's on Netflix, but ... yeah. Maybe if the current streaming wars don't go their way (they seem to be having a terrible break-up with Disney over the same) they'll start making and selling more DVDs for the increasingly large number of screen junkies who subscribe to one of their rivals instead.
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I'm asking you since you probably have more knowledge on Japanese WWII history than me. There is currently a dispute on whether this article should be named Nanshin-ron (original name) or Southern Expansion Doctrine (new name). The user is trying to move it without any move discussion or consensus. The current name is not used by any source and I don't think there is any English name for it. Fortunatestars ( talk) 04:43, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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Nice! I don't know why I had gotten to wikipedia.jp and google.jp, but hadn't made the jump to using books and scholar in another language! Thanks! Aurornisxui ( talk) 23:26, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hey ho! Hope all is well! I wonder what should be done about the recent addition of a new section added to the article Tintin in Tibet with one sentence stating that a particular song happens to have the same name? — Prhart com♥ 19:24, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
...editors who primarily work on superhero film articles have such an inflated sense of their own being careful editors who read their sources critically and write grammatically flawless articles: this is the kind of "outsider" they are used to dealing with. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 10:02, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
...that aikido, kendo, and to a lesser extent judo and karate all originated in Asia but are now practiced primarily by westerners? That's the impression I get from the (distribution of) photographs in our articles on them, anyway.
Seriously, it's really weird that the infobox of the aikido article lists famous practitioners who are all but two Japanese, and Japan has won the kendo world championships something like ten times as often as every other country combined, but our articles make it look like they have since the nineteenth century been primarily non-Japanese phenomena. The judo and karate articles are a little less problematic (primarily because few of the faces are visible), but the photos there come across as vanity picks taken by the parents of the subjects. (Yes, I know the faces are all concealed in the kendo article, but the European names of the subjects, who appear to be non-famous private individuals, are all visible.)
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That was quite a sequence of edits on the film Ran which you did. Any interest on your part to possibly review it if I do the GA nomination. JohnWickTwo ( talk) 02:49, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi Curly, I just wanted to offer a quick apology for this edit. I was moving too fast and misclicked the rollback button, I undid it but with errors like that I'd prefer to apologize personally. Best wishes.-- Church Talk 08:58, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
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All these politically-motivated changes to the national anthem are getting under my skin. We should go back to Weir's original translation—gender-neutral and secular:
... although cramming the three-syllable pa-tri-ot into two still sticks in my craw. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I was looking back at the contribs of one of my alt-accounts for reasons just now, and remembered this for the first time in a long time; it was 3-1 in favour of deletion for almost a full week, and then within a single day five more people suddenly showed up and all !voted to keep and a non-admin closes it having clearly not read the discussion (one of the unambiguous delete !votes became a "maybe" and another was completely ignored, and the timing made it anything but WP:SNOW). And this was apparently the result of a WikiProject that was at least in that case used for the specific purpose of canvassing keep !votes in AFDs: I don't recall ever encountering them again, but the project doesn't seem to have been formally retired, so if it still serves that function it really seems like a problem.
This reminded me a bit of what happened at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Korean influence on Japanese culture; the latter obviously shouldn't be re-opened given the great work you, Nish and others did to fix the article (at least to the point that WP:TNT no longer applies), but I'm really wondering about Mottainai. Apparently no one has done any work in the last five years to fix its problems or demonstrate how it is not a dictionary entry combined with a puff piece to promote a social programme, and I'm really not convinced the original deletion rationales don't apply (and the close was way out of line).
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 11:50, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
You can use {{ od}} ("outdent"). Your keyboard makes a standard hyphen, but what you're looking for is an en dash (see MOS:DASH). It's pretty hairsplitting, especially outside of article space—feel free to revert it if you don't like it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Without wanting to be pedantic, and it's likely that you are already fully aware of this, but for the sake of those who check diffs, it would make a "diff" if the number of changes to any given section that appear in the article history and on our watchlists could be minimized....I try to remember to use the "Show Preview" button until I am sure that the changes are what I want. For example, your group of 21 edits to Singular they would have appeared as 10-11 edits instead, much easier to look through. I have sinned against this myself often enough, and it is just a suggestion... Clean Copy talk 00:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
"I really do not care if your disgusting personal attack contributed to the 'problem' or not." And here is one of the biggest problems with ANI—so many participants don't actually give two shits if someone's contributing to a problem, they just want drahmah and lots-o'-blocks. Meanwhile, we've got editors who spend years disrupting both article space and talk-page discussions that ANI time and time again refuses to deal with ... Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:52, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Wait for consensus to form. There's no timeline. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 07:34, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
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I've been rewriting our article on Akazome Emon, with my main source being an article by Hiroko Saito. Thing is, the previous version was apparently (it had no inline citations) based on writings by Hiroaki Sato and Earl Miner, Hiroko Odagiri. Nothing really important for the project; I just thought it was an amusing coincidence. :P Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 11:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
I really wish that talk page wasn't such a hot bed at the moment and we could engage in friendly if slightly off-topic banter freely. Anyway...
one could argue it's not even particularly Japanese
This reminded me of a humorous Facebook post an American friend of mine once made having just bought a box ("tube"?) of cookies in a konbini; inside the box was a plastic wrapper; when he opened the wrapper, each cookie was individually wrapped; and this wasn't even the kind of omiyage where they were meant to be distributed to coworkers and left on the desks of absentees, but a snack suitable for one or at most two people. "Japan has a unique aversion to wastefulness" is like "Japan has a unique tendency to take train schedules with a pinch of salt" in terms of its hilarious anachronism.
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 12:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
You posted in more than one place the claim that anime and manga have no (distinct) plural forms, because they are non-count nouns, not because they are Japanese words. Strictly speaking, I think, this is a non-sequitur, because non-count nouns still have plural forms: "milks", "cheeses", and so on. I do not believe there exists a non-count noun which cannot be plural. Even putting that aside, I realise I have no experience of the real use of anime or manga in English. I suppose I regard them mostly as genres, in which case they are uncountable, but given a マンガ本, does one not say "There's a manga"... in which case "There's another one" means that there are two manga(s), and this is definitely not a non-count usage.
Thanks for your work on Mottainai; I wil try to look at it some time. The grammatical description has been cleaned up, but it could simple describe the word as an adjective, and point out that (like any other adjective) it can be used attributively or predicatively, and automatically forms a free-standing exclamation. But it's difficult to know how to approach this: what does "adjective" mean, for example: there are any number of different sets of terminology, and I have a (real, smelly-paper) book that includes the claim that "Japanese has no adjectives". Imaginatorium ( talk) 07:49, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 11:29, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Even though not mandatory, it is a good policy to notify about a move review to the editor who closed the move. But when you falsely accused me of
confirming that I "closed [the move] on a mere show of hands and "merely stated what a lot of editors expressed" re WP:COMMONNAME." At that time you should have notified me, or at least pinged me there. You quoted me completely out of context. I never said "I merely counted the show of hands". Here is the
special:diff/830009227 of that particular comment. I specifically said No matter what the reasoning behind it is, it is clear that the community wanted the page to be moved. I still support my close, if you think the consensus was in favour of not moving; then please free to open a move review.
That is consensus. Now, if possible, kindly let me know how can my comment be interpreted as "I closed [the move] on a mere show of hands"? Also, kindly let me know what your definition of consensus is.
In case you dont remember the conversation, here is the link to archive: User talk:Usernamekiran/Archives/5#Suzukake_Nanchara. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
This is my last communication with you.
In any case, I will not contact you again. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Hey, given this I'm increasingly surprised that ANI thread didn't lead to a block. I suspect it might have something to do with your pulling a Hijiri2015-style goof and getting drawn into extensive (TLDR) back-and-forths (I also noticed your ongoing ANI thread about another editor -- you seem to be in the right there as well, but I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to read through it). Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 12:03, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Pretty hilarious. An editor who really, really dislikes me, and never otherwise posts to ANI unless it's in a thread about him, shows up to undermine me, and the editor I reported thanks him as a "neutral third party".
Any lingering doubt I had that SC420 was trolling is basically gone at this point. Maybe we should just ping the admin who blocked him last time he made counter- consensus IDHT edits on a BLP?
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 08:53, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
@ Hijiri88: I refer to Adamstom. And the discussion on my Talk Page was mainly about Curly and the collective final warning. You were only mentioned in passing in a discussion referenced by this one and directly branching from it. Dark Knight 2149 06:55, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I wonder why it's titled SANCTIONGAMING, as it doesn't seem to have anything to do with sanctionsYeah, I know. I first saw it out of context and assumed it meant taking advantage of other editors' preexisting sanctions in order to win disputes (like what certain editors did repeatedly with an IBAN I appealed last March).
his performance at those two ANIsWait, which ones? I only recall one recently, but since you weren't involved I suspect that's not what you're referring to.
such a black-and-white, unrepentant POV-pusher as NNWhy would you call Nocturnalnow ( talk · contribs) an unrepentant POV-pusher? You and he seem to be basically on the same "side". :P But seriously, abbreviating people's usernames in cases like this is a bitch. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 08:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
I bookmarked the diffs that NN sent me, but am otherwise unfamiliar with this user. If you can show me diffs of such "black and white" vandalism, I'll be happy to look at them. I'm not sure how one conversation gave you the idea that we're now Batman and Robin but, in terms of accusing other users of disruption (especially those who call out your behaviour), you honestly don't hold much credibility at this point. I don't doubt that you have dealt with genuine disruption in the past, but the only thing I really want is for you to be honest and civil, and to stop gaming the system for your own ends. I myself have been wondering at times whether or not you believe your own lies, but there's no excuse for some of the things you say and do (which were and are clearly deliberate).
Of course, I know you'll deny until the end of time, so I don't know why I'm trying to get through to you. Maybe it's because of your extensive contributions or whatever, but if I have to report one of you, I will be covering every single moment with diffs to back it up (which means I will have to simultaneously report several other users, who were specifically tagged at the final warning). If you won't behave for yourself, do it for them. You can deny responsibility, but it would be wise for you to take what I'm saying into consideration instead of spinning a deeper web as you are now. Dark Knight 2149 16:30, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
CT thinks he's Supermanor
but Bruce Wayne would have a different view? Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:51, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
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I did a complete re-write of the article about Lill-Babs that died a few days ago. If you find time for it, take a look. Any help is appreciated. BabbaQ ( talk) 14:52, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
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... that BLPs were subject to discretionary sanctions? [8] 'Cause I didn't!
That might actually be a better option in the long-run than an ANEW or ANI block request. AE is, in my experience, faster and more effective than ANI in cases like this. Mind you, we might well be stuck just waiting for them to pull the same stunt again, now that the page is protected. Sorry for the fuck-up on that front -- things happened a lot faster than I expected.
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Blocked + one other. Thanks very much.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 22:01, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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I noticed that a bot removed some of the archived links we had in the Garage rock article. I was wondering if we should reinstate them? Gobble gobble. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 02:20, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Good day Sir, thank you for the reminder, due to the articles of famous Japanese characters like Kido Takayoshi, Saigō Takamori, Kondō Isami, Saitō Hajime, etc, most of them are SURNAME-FORENAME based, I am not fully aware that I had go against the MOS:JAPAN. The article Yamashita Tomoyuki page move was approved at the Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests (view history), and it shall ends there. I had stopped and I will apologies for all inconvenience caused. I will offer to undo the process should you give a green light.
I kinda wanna vent about something that just happened (specifically I suspect another user was "triggered" by my linking referencing a concept in feminist literary criticism), but it would involve spoiling parts of the film. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:10, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for your edits to the List of Important Tangible Folk Cultural Properties. Regarding this edit, the and ??? referred to 改良形用具. Do you have any idea how to translate this part? bamse ( talk) 14:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I just got a notice that someone tried (and failed) to log in to my account. I haven't logged in recently ... so ... someone with a grudge? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:48, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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I was unaware that this word refer[red] to a style of Western-influenced [Japanese cuisine] which originated during the Meiji Restoration
. I mean, I know at in English it tends to be used more for "western-style" food that was actually invented in Japan, but even then specifying that by definition it originated during the Meiji Restoration (not even the Meiji period, but specifically the Meiji Restoration!) seems like bullshit. And it probably should say that in Japanese the word just means "western food, whether or not it originates in Japan". And the more I read the messier it gets -- yeah,
castella might be called 洋食, but it predates Meiji...
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[10] Five months late to the punch on this one, but I was just scrolling through the page, noticed this, and initially thought I had made a misprint. "Uno no Obito Ohito"? (笑) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 11:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
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Do DF's recent AFD comments look to you like he intends to turn Mottainai Grandma into a POVFORK of Mottainai after we excised most of the bullshit "ancient Chinese secret" stuff from the latter? 'Cause they look like that to me. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 23:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Can you clarify or remove this comment at AN3 please? It is either an inscrutable reference to private matters or it must be a gibe against someone. The report is about to get archived anyway, and no further action is expected. Thank you, EdJohnston ( talk) 16:00, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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The image reviewer on my current FAC has raised a couple concerns that I'm not sure are valid. One is about whether or not a caption needs a citation, the other is about whether the full cover image needs to be used. She has significantly more experience with FAs than I do, so I thought solicit your opinion before moving forward. You can reply here or at the FAC - she openly invited opinions from other editors on the second point. Argento Surfer ( talk) 12:54, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
I really don't want to be the one to fix this, especially given that he's definitely going to accuse me of "hounding" him for checking his contribs for the errors I know he's going to make, and he did make even while the ANI thread was still open. Yeah, provoking him into hurling a string of attacks against me would likely get him blocked, but I really don't want to have to file another ANI report immediately after the last one was closed, even if the closer did tell me that next time he does it I can point to the last one and the warning.
Would you mind changing "novel" to "book"? I hate to ask you to take responsibility for this somewhat dubious content by fixing that detail but not blanking or fixing the whole sentence. The cited source says around 150 letters were used, but it doesn't necessarily imply they were the main resource as our text does, and verifying the content is more work than it's normally worth in cases like this -- it's a given that such works utilize primary sources, which in the case of eighteenth-century colonial America probably would be mostly letters, so the content is pretty meaningless as written.
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 13:27, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
I just noticed that the other "part" of the edit is also characteristically ungrammatical: "the Culper's spy ring" is not used in either the source or our article. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 13:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
The book incorporates research done on roughly 150 letters.Giving Rose's full name twice in a row is terrible writing, even if it was a non-fiction novel naming and linking the literary genre in this manner would be super-awkward, and saying the book incorporates "research on letters" is probably equivalent to saying the the book incorporates "research", so the number of letters is important. Naming Washington and the spy ring can be taken or left, although honestly if I'm interpreting the source correctly it would be more accurate and interesting to say the letters were by
George Washington and "Samuel Culper", a codename used by those in the spy ring, although a clearer source would be needed for this. All in all, just a mess. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 21:47, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Hey, Dream Focus—I'm not interested in getting in a dispute over this, but Hijiri's criticisms are on the mark. I tried googling for "novel" in reference to this book, and got nothing, and the prose was certainly awkward. I've taken a stab at what I hope is a non-controversial rewording. Do you have anything to say about it? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:57, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
And honestly now, as large as Wikipedia is, surely you have other things to concern yourselves with other than me saying "novel" instead of "book" at times.CT might interpret this as meaning "Keep your mitts off my articles", but I honestly think it looks a lot more like "stop stalking me". Note that this was a claim made multiple times in the month or so before JoshuSasori ( talk · contribs) got himself blocked, and its also one of the personal attacks for which you were recently censured. Yes, I and most of the commenters were primarily concerned with a particular group of attacks, but "You are stalking/following/hounding me" is still a personal attack, and you are strongly advised to avoid saying things that could be read that way. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 05:51, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
This is pretty hilarious. Presumably he can see something that neither I nor the reFill tool he used can see, but ... Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 09:27, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
So a month ago we had a guy whose kabane was almost identical to his personal name and Superman; now we have Super Mario. Sadly it doesn't seem to be known what his court rank, if any, may have been, because "従七位下水道" would have been pretty hilarious. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 01:48, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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"Anime-style" is a really questionable turn of phrase by itself in that context, but I'm having trouble wrapping my head about what to do with the quote Funnily enough, we showed our Japanese cohorts RWBY and they started arguing about whether it was anime or not!
Obviously, 99% of Japanese people would not argue for a second that it is not anime, so presumably what was meant was "Japanese-American cohorts" or "English-speaking Japanese cohorts residing in the United States" and they were going by the English definition of anime, but the wording she actually used makes it really problematic as it gives the impression that that distinction actually exists for Japanese people.
I guess it's not entirely irrelevant to vent to you about this, since it does harken back a little to that "... (OVA)" disambiguator shit from a few months back, where a relatively obscure term for a concept that doesn't actually exist in the real world was ... ah, forget it; I'm pretty sure that worked out in the end.
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 23:31, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
English got the word information from (Norman) French, where the word is countable.It's kinda off-topic, but that's actually an interesting question. I would think that at the time the word was borrowed into English it was (exclusively) uncountable in Norman French. There doesn't seem to be any reason to assume it was always countable in French
Certainly twenty years ago you wouldn't have gotten away with "I watched an anime last night"—you'd have to've said "I watched some anime last night"As far as I can tell as long as the word anime has existed in Japanese it's been used in the senses of "an animated film" or "an animated television series", so using it in English to refer to "a Japanese animated film or television series" (= "an anime") would make sense. This is kind complicated by the fact that, at least according to this guy, "anime" in English is a kind of replacement word for "Japanimation", which, yeah, would sound weird even to me if used countably.
The line in the RWBY article is worse because it's a series—calling it "an anime" wouldn't make sense even if countable anime were indeed standardNot really: like I said, it refers to "a Japanese animated series"; it could also refer to "an episode of a Japanese animated series", but that would, if anything, be the less common usage because one doesn't often talk about the genre, style or country of origin of individual entries in series. (I briefly considered writing a satyric comment on Talk:Red vs. Blue (season 14) asking if episodes 9, 10 and 11 were also "anime-style" as their animation style is identical to RWBY, but figured that would be a bit pointy and no one would notice anyway.)
according to this, the earliest attestations of the word are countable (and in the plural).Good catch, and that's really interesting (although I just checked, and the free online edition of OED, though not my denshijisho copy, gives basically the same info [21]), but those are still pretty late attestations (200+ years after the Norman conquest of England), and don't really answer the question given that the uncountable sense does appear to exist in modern French (I must admit my French is super rusty, though) and cognates in other languages that also got the word from Latin also seem to be a bit schizophrenic on the matter (although my Danish, Swedish and Latin are not "rusty" so much as non-existent).
It's hard to prove, because any search for "an anime" will inevitably turn up reams of hits with it being used as an adjunctI've found you can counter this phenomenon by looking at the first hit, then adding -"[whatever that first hit was]" to the search. I don't actually doubt that you are right to believe "Japanese animation" is the original and more formal sense, and it doesn't make a difference to my Wikipedia editing, since I'm such a stickler for "either use plain English or use the Japanese words in the technically correct Japanese sense" that I die a little inside every time common Wikipedia practice forces me to use "samurai"; if I had my way Yakushiji Kin'yoshi would be either a warrior or a member of the bushi or buke class, so as long as I have a choice I don't use "anime" to begin with.
the first time I heard anime from someone's lips (rather than in print) was in a presentation in art class circa 1994 (the guy pronounced it as if it were French: "ah-neem"; I had a good chuckle, although I don't know why I knew better—I didn't start learning Japanese until 1996)True story: I first heard it (never saw it in print until much later) in either 1997 or 1998 from my Canadian cousin (born in Canada to an Irish mother -- my father's sister -- and Canadian father), who pronounced it /ˈænəmi/ with an /i/. This actually made some sense given the most common pronunciations of both karate and kamikaze in English, and how Pokemon was pronounced a lot. I suspect that's why the latter developed an accent aigu in its official spelling, and why one sometimes sees anime written with one as well. I pronounced it /ˈænəmi/ for quite some time as a result.
Funny, so many foreigners in Japan today are manga otaku, but when I first came, virtually none of the foreigners I knew here could stand the stuff—they were either here for the easy money (much easier back then, even that long after the bubble burst) or the skirt-chasing.I actually don't seem to encounter that many people I would describe as specifically manga otaku, or at least they don't try to talk to me about it. Granted, most of the foreigners I talk to are ALT colleagues, and back when I was on JET that could be explained with the "easy money" thing, and even now that the only JETs I talk to are people who arrived when I was in my last year and got lucky with a fifth year on their contract, most of the non-JET teachers I talk to, while they don't necessarily talk about anime and manga a whole lot, definitely are into the whole "nerd culture" at least as much as I am.
Does this remind you of anyone? 1,400 edits, and 300 of them to GANs and FACs, and an argumentative style that consensus is needed not to violate policy. Not implying sockpuppetry, just that we might have a similar problem on our hands. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:29, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
More belligerent horseshit. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:46, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
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Hey, as usual I appreciate your help on User:Hijiri88/Medieval Japanese literature, but I'm a bit concerned that since both of us have very incrementalist editing styles and tend to make large numbers of edits in short time frames, and this is amplified for me when the pages are still in my userspace, there might be edit conflicts, which are annoying, and these could be avoided if you waited until I moved them into the mainspace. (This, plus the fact that fixing little errors like last→lasted is a great way to up my beloved mainspace edit rate, and your "stealing" them from me before I've even moved the page into the mainspace is kinda mottainai from my point of view. :P ) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 02:20, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Minamoto no Yoritomo appointed shogunsupposedly happened on that date, which I guess might be a misinterpretation of something else (he was obviously a 将軍 a lot longer than he was the 征夷大将軍, but the English word only refers to the latter), but none of the Yoritomo entries on Kotobank seem to imply anything of biographical significance other than the victory at Dan-no-Ura happened that year. The closest that comes up is that someone else (on closer inspection it seems to have been Minamoto no Yoshinaka) was appointed shogun in 1184. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:22, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I know I asked you just above not to edit my userspace drafts, but there's something I want your advice on (as the one who introduced me to the template in the first place): what do you think about this? Daikakuji-tō and Jimyōin-tō both currently exist as redirects to the articles on their own direct successors, but this strikes me as being equivalent to redirecting Whig Party (United States) to Republican Party (United States) and Democratic-Republican Party to Democratic Party (United States), with the distinction that it's actually worse, since at least all four of those are political parties rather than rival states ( Whig Party (United States)→ United States of America and Democratic Party (United States)→ Confederate States of America).
So naturally in the long run separate pages will need to be built. But is Illm only for redlinks? I recall a bot fixing one at some point when I eventually created a full article to be linked, but I'm not sure how it deals with pages that are currently redirects, and I suspect that if it doesn't recognize them maybe it should be made to because of placeholder redirects like these ones.
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 08:52, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I just started a new section on this talk page to make the album ratings template reflect the critic consensus instead of defualt-ly including sources like AllMusic, even if their rating is not reflective of it. I know you seemed to agree with this when I brought it up before, would you like to weigh in? -- Bobtinin (talk) 01:23, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
Sorry to trouble you. Was wondering if you could take a pass at Jack Kirby and see if you had any suggestions as I'm thinking of submitting it to WP:FA. Appreciate anything you can offer, no matter how small. Hiding T 16:43, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I think using Template:Tq would be better. With short quotes red looks quite like a red-link, and it looks kinda ... angry (at least to me), even though I'm pretty sure that's not your intent. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:18, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Ceoil: When you add a ping to someone as you did here, the ping won't work unless the comment is re-signed (yes, I realize it was Victoriaearle's comment, so you couldn't really have done that, but just so you'd know). I've known for years the two of you have an intense dislike for me—there you are slandering me up and down that talk page despite my weeks of silence (as well as at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Ceoil)—but, seriously now, you seem to be suggesting that the Arbs are protecting me or something (of course, nobody's buying it, or rising to the ridiculous bait—the evidence is all public). I mean, Jesus fucking Christ already.
Get better soon, Victoriaearle—I wouldn't wish kidney stones on an enemy (and I don't consider you one, even if you obviously do me). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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I mean, unlike some other people he doesn't have an unnervingly clean block log, but it really should be a lot longer when this is the way he has been engaging with me since his very first reply to me (or maybe the second, which was worse) in our very first encounter, meaning he almost certainly reacts this way to everyone. Heck, his behaviour in this thread alone should have been enough for a block.
User:Swarm is kinda-sorta WP:INVOLVED at this point, given that he issued the warning that led to the recent incident, and I'm genuinely afraid of what will happen if I open an ANI thread less than six months after this mess (which led to the other user getting blocked and still not getting the message but I still didn't come off great).
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First of all, excellent work bringing Little Nemo to featured status! It's really interesting reading. I've been working on expanding our article on John Bunny—one of McCay's unnamed artist friends from the film—and I ran into a small issue you might be able to help me with. The source I've been using to build the filmography section of Bunny's article doesn't list Little Nemo as one of his films, but it's such an interesting piece of work that I want to include it. I notice that the article on Little Nemo only lists its run time, not physical length (1 reel, 2 reels, 1,500 feet, etc.) My source, on the other hand, only provides the physical length of Bunny's films. Do you know whether any sources list the physical length of McCay's film? If so, I'd love to know so as to be consistent. This is such a minor issue that I don't know if it's worth bothering you over, but it would make me inordinately happy to get is sorted out. Lord Bolingbroke ( talk) 21:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Proposal: make subjects actively in the news ineligible for GANs and FACs. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:20, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
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In the "assassination" section on the Abraham Lincoln page, can you change the words “According to eyewitnesses, he face was fixed in a smile when he expired” to “According to some accounts, at his last drawn breath, on the morning after the assassination, he smiled broadly and then expired”? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.98.41 ( talk) 09:47, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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An editor has asked for a Move review of Nanjing Massacre. Because you were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. STSC ( talk) 19:12, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
Recently I began moving pages of Japanese place names (for example: Totsukawa, Nara) in accordance to what I interpreted this sentence in MOS:JPPLACE
"For cities, use the form [[{city-name}, {prefecture-name}]]; for example, Mishima, Shizuoka. Exception: For designated cities, use [[{city-name}]] without appending the prefecture unless disambiguation from another city or prefecture is necessary.
For districts, use the form [[{district-name} District, {prefecture-name}]]; for example, Aki District, Kōchi.
For towns and villages, use the form [[{town or village-name}, {prefecture-name}]]; for example, Fujikawa, Yamanashi."
Additionally, most Japanese place articles also follow this naming convention.
I saw that you reverted a lot of my page moves, saying that I "totally misunderstood MOS:JPPLACE". I feel like my interpretation is correct, as most of my moves were of towns and villages that are not designated cities. How should these articles be titled, in your opinion?
BigBryan0 ( talk) 06:56, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
I will nominate Sharon Dyall for DYK inclusion later today. Take a look if you like. BabbaQ ( talk) 09:15, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Your move was misguided, as the word "ninja" is already plural when needed (just like "samurai" and other such words), and anyway this is about a concept of the ninja. Please revert yourself asap. SNAAAAKE!! ( talk) 17:04, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
'You're absolutely wrong, saying "ninjas" is as wrong as saying " samurais", " sais", " animes", etc. It's a Japanese word. See the ninja article (which is also "ninja" and not "ninjas") and count how many times "ninjas" passed through the editors (without my input) as opposed to "ninja" - I'll tell you, it's exactly 3 vs 161 (while in samurai "samurais" appears 1 time compared to 267 instances of "samurai"). There's 0 "animes" on Wikipedia, 0 " mangas" (only 1 in a French source link), 0 "sais", 0 " shurikens", 4 " katanas" (out of 57), 0 " ronins", and so forth, because it's Japanese words that are already plural whenever needed. Now go and revert yourself. SNAAAAKE!! ( talk) 08:36, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Cool for you, I don't care. There's also 0 " mangas" (only 1 in a French source link), 0 " wakizashis", 0 " tachis", 0 " soheis", 0 " yamabushis", 0 " kunais", and so forth (and 0 " otakus" for that matter), which I guess you will now run to "correct" too? As I said, just revert yourself - to what is the norm on the Wikipedia. Bye! SNAAAAKE!! ( talk) 09:03, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I know we've had some less than pleasant interactions in the past about comic books. I feel like I have been the bad element in those by being overly abrasive and uncivil. I'm very sorry about that, I realize that I have issues with my temper and that I am in need of bettering myself. I just want to apologize right now, so that I don't leave any stuff in the air if I will be unable to return for a long time. I'm sorry. ★Trekker ( talk) 05:10, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Saw you added a caption to Template:AMD Epyc and initially tried to align navbar and caption vertically (so the edit links are moved down a bit), but let it be because it increased the blank space above, and I couldn't work out how to fix it.
Today I saw some content got removed from a different table template, which I noticed was down to the table being transcluded in two different articles, one about AMD APUs in general, the other specifically about the Jaguar micro-architecture. So wanted to add some clarification, e.g. a caption, note or heading.
I remembered that you added a caption to the other table but ended up altering the navbar-table template to use a heading instead.
Currently added the heading text inside Template:AMD custom APU, which means all articles transcluding the table would have the same heading. An alternative would be to pass on a parameter instead, so each article using this particular table could have a different or no heading.
Basically just informing you that there is a second option now and you can choose between caption and heading. — Pizzahut2 ( talk) 21:11, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for looking out-he's a dickhead.-- Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 09:05, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi. In the past you've offered your opinion in choosing photos for the Infobox. Can you offer your opinion in this discussion on a related topic? It may go toward a precedent regarding captions. Thanks, and Happy Holidays. Nightscream ( talk) 19:55, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
It's no coincidence that after this, you've shown up at the Supercouple and Vagina articles. What article is next? How many articles will be out of your area of expertise? I'll enjoy taking you to WP:ANI, considering that every editor who has stalked/hounded me has been reprimanded and/or sanctioned in one way or another. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 07:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Reported at WP:ANI. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 07:57, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
I don't know you Curly but I can say that I would be furious if you would suddenly turn up at any articles that I work on. Curly, you say you do that all the time and no one complains but you can bet your bottom dollar that they are god damn pissed off if they are experienced editors and feel like they are being shamed if they are new.is ... well, becoming "furious" or getting "god damn pissed off" over such a minor affair is not the mark of an experienced editor who is fitted to working in a collaborative environment. No one "owns" any of our articles, and if someone shows up to make MOS fixes to an article you are working you should be thankful for their assistance. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 15:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
CT, I was, a few months back, accused of hounding for the act of using the AFD stats tool and requesting that editors not try to evade the scrutiny afforded by said tool, and you can Ctrl+F this guy's contribs for "hound" for a few more bizarre hounding accusations, so I honestly find the idea that this has never happened to you before a bit incredible. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 07:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Remember Talk:Nagano (city) this summer? Well, it's recently come to my attention that Kochi Prefecture has some of the worst examples (multiple separate municipalities named "Tosa", etc.). Shimanto, Kōchi is a disambig page, but Shimanto redirects to Shimanto, Kōchi (city)! (I'm not actually sure if it's the primary topic, since both it and the neighbouring town are very small, but either way Shimanto, Kōchi (town) should almost certainly be at Shimanto (town in Kōchi), no?) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 06:59, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
parentheses where city and pref are the same, but <City>, <Pref> otherwise. I'd be in favour of applying parentheses across the board, and definitely never, ever using both comma and parentheses.
I'm curious why you reverted my change of the Nanjing page. If you've lived in Japan, you certainly must understand there are differing accounts of what happened and so the word "differing" is more appropriate than the loaded, biased term "revisionist". For instance, it could be said that the International Settlement was basically the heart of Europe's corruption of China, and that Europe's money had been corrupting China for a hundred years. Regardless of separate issues of Japanese Imperialism in Manchuria, 南京 was most likely severely corrupt from the influence of the International Settlement. China could be said to have been the occupied territory of Europe. And then this "Amongst all this, Shanghai was notable for a long period as the only place in the world that unconditionally offered refuge for Jews escaping from the Nazis." The only place in the world...
Can we be absolutely sure of who is "revising" history here? We have a pretty good idea of ballpark facts for things hundreds or even thousands of years earlier, how many soldiers died in the Napoleonic wars, that Napoleon was exiled twice, etc., for instance, but for some reason World War II is shrouded in confusion. "revisionist" is a biased term used by one side to discredit the other. Wikipedia cannot be a source of knowledge if it takes sides.
So please clarify your comment of "definitely not in this case"? Peterius ( talk) 20:47, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Greetings Curly Turkey,
I just wanted to explain why I
moved the discussion on "Commas after short introductory phrases" above that of "Style discussions ongoing". If you read the "Style discussions ongoing" section, someone has added Add new items at top of list; move to Concluded when decided and summarize conclusion. Comment at them if interested. Please keep this section at the bottom of the page.
As this is an ongoing discussion, I think the idea was to keep that at the bottom, but I'm not fussed either way. If we don't want to do that, we should probably eliminate that line so it doesn't keep getting moved. Cheers!
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Hey, I recall one e-mail exchange we had a while back about you-know-who, in which I linked you to a video of Orly Taitz being interviewed by ... Chris Matthews, I think, and the host eventually cut her off and compared her to Trump, and you expressed surprise that such an old video (it was from 2010 or 2011) would be talking about Trump. I wouldn't blame a Canadian in Japan for not being completely up on the 2012 US Republican primaries (I only knew about them because I was watching The Young Turks religiously at the time), but he was at the time considered to be one of the leaders of the so-called "birther" movement.
The reason I'm bringing this up here is because it's fun to refer on-wiki to off-wiki discussions about "you-know-who" and let others wonder who that is (even though if they were as familiar with our history as they sometimes claim it'd be really feckin' obvious); the reason I'm bringing it up now is because I recently watched the excellent Netflix documentary Trump: An American Dream, which goes into some detail on the matter, and if you can watch it I really recommend it. I forget if you ever mentioned to me whether you had a Netflix subscription, and it really sucks that oftentimes stuff made for Netflix never gets a DVD release because it's on Netflix, but ... yeah. Maybe if the current streaming wars don't go their way (they seem to be having a terrible break-up with Disney over the same) they'll start making and selling more DVDs for the increasingly large number of screen junkies who subscribe to one of their rivals instead.
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 02:02, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm asking you since you probably have more knowledge on Japanese WWII history than me. There is currently a dispute on whether this article should be named Nanshin-ron (original name) or Southern Expansion Doctrine (new name). The user is trying to move it without any move discussion or consensus. The current name is not used by any source and I don't think there is any English name for it. Fortunatestars ( talk) 04:43, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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Nice! I don't know why I had gotten to wikipedia.jp and google.jp, but hadn't made the jump to using books and scholar in another language! Thanks! Aurornisxui ( talk) 23:26, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hey ho! Hope all is well! I wonder what should be done about the recent addition of a new section added to the article Tintin in Tibet with one sentence stating that a particular song happens to have the same name? — Prhart com♥ 19:24, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
...editors who primarily work on superhero film articles have such an inflated sense of their own being careful editors who read their sources critically and write grammatically flawless articles: this is the kind of "outsider" they are used to dealing with. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 10:02, 30 December 2018 (UTC)