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Hello Jim you can call me Ben I am a new user, and I heard that you like helping new users. If you can help me that would be great.-- NonnySmith ( talk) 14:52, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey. I noticed a lot of stuff has been removed due to there being no official source for it. If that’s the case why is his name on there Dalauan Sparrow? There is no official source saying that’s his name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown Three ( talk • contribs) 18:26, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Just to follow up on this article. The semi-protection for it ended, and as feared, there have been further attempts to make bad faith edits (adding pejoratives, "real name" assertions, BLP violations, etc.) Thankfully, these edits have already been reverted by good faith editors. Based on the level of such activity so far, I think this article falls under consideration for some sort of further protection.
Shortscircuit (
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23:49, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I need to ask a question please? Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 03:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
How does one insert an accurate photo for Howard Eddy Jr. in the Grand Funk Railroad Wikipedia members section. Howard Eddy Jr.’s is blank. Could you help with this? Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:13, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Still there? Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:17, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
The photo next to it is of Dennis Bellenger, who was the bassist for only a couple of years. I am Howard Eddy Jr. and I find it insulting that the time and effort that I put into that band has been thrown aside. That reunion tour was the first time Grand Funk had reunited since the mid 70’s. When Dennis Bellenger was in the band there were only 2 of the 3 originals in the group. When I was with them from 96’-98’ it had the original 3 members for the first time since those mid 70’s. I think I deserve to have a photo on the page Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I don’t understand what you mean about conflict of interest guidelines Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:36, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello? Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I believe I found the correct guideline and I read it. I am not trying to gain any advancement or get something from this except for the due respect. GFR would not still be together now had the 96’-98’ tour and Bosnia concerts happened. The shows were strong and the audiences loved that tour, therefore giving the band the confidence to keep it going, with or without Farner. So you say I was only in for a short period and that made it insignificant to the story? That’s not right! Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Typo: “had the 96’-98’ tour and Bosnia concerts NOT happened” Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I edit with a Mobile device and a problem I’m facing currently is all the sections are automatically opened as opposed to me clicking on them before they open. Are you also facing this same problem? Celestina007 ( talk) 14:09, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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Celestina007: I had to dig through the source to find the answer. Best I can tell, if your device has a width of over 720 pixels, this is considered a "tablet" and all sections are expanded. Otherwise, there should be an "Expand all sections" option in your settings (under the hipster menu hamburger menu menu with three bars). So, either you recently upgraded to a larger device, switched to reading in landscape mode, or you accidentally checked that option.
Suffusion of Yellow (
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19:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
The reason that that ANI got out of hand is that TRM inserted himself into it, while at the same time following me to another article I'd recently edited but he'd never edited. TRM has been doing this periodically to me for years. I can provide diffs if needed. I will NEVER stop calling TRM's interactions with me hounding because it's been clear to me for awhile that's what he does to me. p b p 20:39, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Dear Jim,
I am Anaïs, working into digital and energy transition topics and would like to become editor for Wikipedia. I used to be web journalist and editor, my main area of knowledge are : energy, sustainable development, Middle East and Africa Geopolitics. I am French national and fluent in English as well.
Many thanks for your feedback in where to start and how to contribute to the platform.
Best,
Anaïs.
Hi Jim, you helped me out sorting the conflict of my username and assisted in a question last year - User_talk:Cullen328/Archive_70#International_Usage_(de/en) - so I hope you can help me with a pending update a client made in February after a full disclosure of the username: Talk:Wellendorff Is there something could be done helping to get the translation and investiagation work a go for the pending article-update? Regards, -- mARTin ( talk) 20:53, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Jim,
I just discovered Teahouse, which is really cool. I have been editing on Wikipedia for 14 years but only sporadically and I am not really super knowledgeable about the references.
I posted a question to Teahouse a few minutes ago, but something weird happened. I don't know what. I also saw some input from an Elmidae? I messaged her/him. I don't even know how to look for responses to these questions.
I'd really appreciate any help. My email is sfbaybreezes@yahoo.com. I also got a notification from another member but also did not know how to respond?
For example, I always check "watch this page" but not sure where I can look at the "watches"? I don't think I've ever figured that out. pretty sad.
Thanks very much for any help.
Kris Wood
Kristinamwood ( talk) 13:43, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the great info, Jim! That was very useful. I know that I did Publish Changes. So not sure what went wrong. But I've gotten my questions answered. And Elmidae corrected my edit and also shared very helpful info. Thanks again.
Kris
Kristinamwood ( talk) 17:48, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Cullen, the user has been reported to AIV but is now resorting to attacks (see edit summaries). S0091 ( talk) 20:03, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
I read Wikipedia edit summary legent and I got alot of terms. Thank you. Arnt9099 ( talk) 18:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello Cullen328,
I have recently create a Wikipedia page. Unfortunately my submission was declined. This is the message that I’ve received.
The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.
I am very new in this field. It’ll be great if you can help me to correct the page.
Here is the page that I’ve created /info/en/?search=Draft:Prem_Kathir
Please help me to create a perfect page. Thank you.
Jim, Thank you for responding so kindly. The Tuam Herald article was dated 22nd July 1876 and headed - Custer's Army, a Tuam man. The Tuam Herald is a regional newspaper and is available to view on Irishnewsarchives.com. It's a paid site. I have it on pdf but can't share that here. It mentions his brother John (who was a pawnbroker in Tuam) and three of his nephews. He was only gone twenty years and he still had family in Tuam so I have no doubt but that he was born there. Whereas there are birth records for his five siblings, there is none for him. His father and brother are buried locally in Claretuam. According to the headstone, his father died in 1858. His mother was still alive in 1868. After being dismissed from the army in 1863, Myles reenlisted under the alias of Charles Thomas, he cited Amesbury as his place of birth and stuck with it and the lie apparently stuck.
Apart from the Tuam Herald report, I have found three records of his Irish birth:
Census return 1855 for West Newbury – Ireland is recorded as his place of birth. https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=4472&h=4067232&tid&pid&queryId=8043d68652f62795afd9bb2c6b7c1209&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8951&_phstart=successSource&fbclid=IwAR1kiuagOKgUNg20NVNCuboE1mj6fI_WvOxYPiC2oJMMZcuUyDy_ajKaHew
Enlistment form (1857) – Galway is recorded as his place of birth. https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1198&h=454619&tid&pid&queryId=2aa27f794ef1efc315b13c61ccb783e2&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8928&_phstart=successSource&fbclid=IwAR2n4qxUMxwqgLpsxTxaZEskg3Bu8GQrVbZqBozcDMxR4xxQ5w4ZZJFjhBk
Letter of acceptance of the commission of 2nd Lieutenant in 1863 - he says he was born in Ireland https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1198&h=454619&tid&pid&queryId=2aa27f794ef1efc315b13c61ccb783e2&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8928&_phstart=successSource&fbclid=IwAR2n4qxUMxwqgLpsxTxaZEskg3Bu8GQrVbZqBozcDMxR4xxQ5w4ZZJFjhBk — Preceding unsigned comment added by BuffyO'B ( talk • contribs) 07:18, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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For all your contributions to Wikipedia and your helps and tips in the Teahouse, thank you sir! Excellenc1 ( talk) 09:33, 29 April 2021 (UTC) |
Hi, you have answered me about my question. And what if the image is from an online image source? Can I upload the image that I downloaded from the image source? From where can I upload images?. Thank you. Bhu1147 ( talk) 04:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much. I can upload images from [Wikimedia Commons]] to Wikipedia right? What if even Wikimedia Commons even don't have it? How can I identify an Image as copyrighted? Bhu1147 ( talk) 07:04, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Thank You Bhu1147 ( talk) 09:44, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Jim, I'm not sure if I am replying to your query in the correct place - apologies if I'm not - feel as if I'm in a Franz Kafka book!
The Tuam Herald has been around for 185 years printing stories of purely local interest. You won't find world news there unless it connects back to someone who lived in the locality - as was the case here. The Moylans were well-known business people, Myles's brother John was also a Town Commissioner for some years. Myles's nephews were aged 26, 24 and 20 respectively at the time the article was published and the eldest may have remembered Myles before he left Tuam for America. Myles's older brother Thomas worked in one of the many comb factories in West Newbury, MA and I think that another of his nephews went to MA - but can't prove it. The following is the report in the Tuam Herald:-
“Custer’s Army - A Tuam Man - July 22nd, 1876 The harrowing particulars of the massacre of General Custer’s men by the Sioux Indians are so familiar to everyone as to need no recapitulation at our hands. Everyone is conversant with the facts and few do not know how three hundred United States soldiers so ably generalled were decoyed into an ambush and ere escape could be made how all were mercilessly slaughtered. It is also in the memory of our readers how another company were almost meeting with the same fate. Well in this latter detachment we have just heard there was a Tuam man who fought his way out of the scrape as gallantly as he won the Major’s epaulets through the Civil War. Major Myles Moylan, brother of the late John Moylan, and uncle of Messrs. Tom, John and Richard, had command of a company of the 12th that had to fight hard and work desperately to escape with their lives out of the ambush and not meet with the same fate so many of their brave companies experienced. Major Moylan’s conduct on the occasion was most soldierlike, distinguished by a daring determination and a spirit that cannot fail meeting with high recognition from the military authorities of the Great Republic. While we congratulate our old townsman on his providential escape, we feel naturally proud to learn he had acquitted himself so creditably and upheld the well-known military character of the Celt on a foreign battlefield.”
Have you checked the three links I sent you - they all point to an Irishman and a Galway man? When he enlisted in 1857 he cited Galway as his place of birth. When he was dismissed from the army and re-enlisted under the alias Charles Thomas he cited Amesbury as his place of birth and I think that's when the confusion began.
Hi Jim,
I think that the least that needs to happen here is that it is acknowledged that Moylan’s place of birth is disputed. The purpose of Wiki is to portray an accurate story of prominent people or a version of events.
My two records are official records- one is a census return and the other is a U.S. Army record. Surely, they are legit.
1. My Myles Moylan who was a shoemaker from Ireland was living in West Newbury in 1855. Is the census record not legit?
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/4472/images/41265_307597-00514?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=8043d68652f62795afd9bb2c6b7c1209&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8951&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=4067232
2. According to Wiki, Myles Moylan, a shoemaker from Amesbury enlisted as a Private in the U.S. Army on June 8th, 1857. According to my Army record, a Myles Moylan, a shoemaker from GALWAY enlisted in the U.S. Army on June 8th, 1857. Have you a corresponding record for your Myles Moylan? Once again is my army record not legit? https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1198/images/MIUSA1798_102884-00403?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=2aa27f794ef1efc315b13c61ccb783e2&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8928&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=454619
3. As for the letter of acceptance of the 2nd Lieutenancy in 1863, he himself claims Irish birth. I know he was not always truthful about his origins etc. The letter was written before he had a need to mis-state the truth i.e. before he was dismissed and re-enlisted as Charles Thomas in December 1863. Once he had thrown off his Irish identity, it may have been expedient for him to cast it way totally.
In reference to the Tuam Herald article, Myles’s people were prominent business people and well-known about the town of Tuam. In a small town in rural Ireland everybody knew everybody else. Myles was only gone twenty years at the time of that article and surely his nephews and friends knew who he was. His brother Thomas was in West Newbury, MA at the time and there is a record of Myles visiting him while on furlough (American newspaper). For the record, a Thomas Moylan and Margaret Reilly got married in Tuam in 1814. They had six children from 1816 to Myles’s birth. Five are recorded in church records. Is there any record for any child born to a Thomas Moylan and Margaret Reilly living in Amesbury, MA? Myles’s father Thomas is buried in Claretuam Cemetery, outside Tuam having died in 1858. Margaret was still alive in Tuam in 1868 – she was a beneficiary of the will of Anne Moylan, wife of the late John, mentioned in the Tuam Herald article. I have been researching Myles life story for some time and have not found any trace of his parents travelling to the US, living there or dying there.
Jim,
Apologies again for posting on the wrong page - it's as clear as mud to me where I should be posting. I was under the impression that I was replying to you, apologies again.
I have been asked to research this article to be published in the Journal of the Old Tuam Society in Nov 2021. It's a highly reputable journal that publishes articles of local historical importance. http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000237091?ui=standard&fbclid=IwAR16AuD40I2Sh-stfIj-NajM2tngTxZA97EKG1ILV_QekDOEUAXvr4j1I1g
It is available for study at the following institutions: The British Library, The National Library of Ireland, The Bodleian Library in the University of Oxford, Cambridge University Library, The National Library of Scotland in Edinburgh, The National Library of Wales in Aberystwyth and course all the Irish universities including Trinity College, Dublin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BuffyO'B ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Jim, at long last I have figured it out. The DISCUSS NOW prompt does not function on the laptop so I have had to go to NEW SECTION to reply to you and obviously started a new thread each time. The phone version is much simpler from that point of view. Anyway, thank you for your time and I'll leave you in peace. If primary sources like Myles's original enlistment form and an original census return does not warrant a question of doubt as to his place of birth I cannot think of any other route to take. I would have thought that they would have at least warranted a place in the references to allow people to make up their own minds.
Thanks again. BuffyO'B ( talk) 07:14, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
I appreciate the help. — Ched ( talk) 22:19, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
You blocked a user whom I just welcomed. In case of a really new user - and we should assume good faith - that person may not know what we mean by edit-war, consensus, not even block, may not know how to read edit history, has not used their own talk page yet, so how to find an article talk page. I remember that in the beginning, when something I had added disappeared, I just though I had made some mistake and added it again. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:21, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
since it closed before I saw your comment, decided to drop a note here. It's not so much that they lose notability, but it turns into a one event situation. A one hit wonder is not necessarily going to be long term notable, but we'll see. Agree that at the moment it's a clear keep StarM 00:25, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi,@ Cullen328 I've looked upon your redlinks, and created 2 articles, which are currently up for review. Here are the two drafts: Deborah Oropallo | Earl Thollander Tamingimpala ( talk) 22:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Jim! Thank you for answering my question earlier. It's true; Twitchell was not a serial killer (nor did I refer to him as such in the actual article) - but is instead a convicted murderer. Given the nature of his crimes, I think it's important to be mindful of how he is described in the article, and I think describing him as an "artist" without substantiating or citing that claim is particularly suspect, especially since one editor keeps adding it back. I'm wondering what to do next. I mentioned the Yogi Bhajan article earlier, because the disclaimer says that editors may be supporters of the subject of the article, which I suspect may be the case here.
Edit: I see you undid Verissa77's addition of "artist" in the Mark Twitchell article, but they have added it again, still uncited. Cisternet ( talk) 22:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Edit: I now see this has come up before already, 2 years ago, and that the person who raised it suspected that Verissa77 is Mr. Twitchell editing his own biography; I'm wondering if this warrants a sticker like the one on the Yogi Bhajan page: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests/Archive_128#Mark_Twitchell_Article Are there other editors to contact about this? Cisternet ( talk) 22:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your input into this matter Cullen328. I don't know what your day job is, but it obviously is not a professional musician! Professional music is all about self-promotion. It is a highly competitive business; with only a very lucky few making a good living out of it. Self-promotion is an accepted and indeed expected part of the music business, so as a professional musician, I am not going to apologise or make excuses for being seen as using a Wikipedia article as a means of self-promotion. Your belief that "using" Wikipedia as a means to self-promote is a big no no if you are a professional musician seems very misguided! I hope this small insight into the world of a professional musician and self-promotion will help you with your future editing with Wikipedia. Anton Cleary Solo guitarist/street performer Anton Cleary ( talk) 21:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello; I edited a draft and tried to choose reliable resources. I want to ask you to re-review it and accept if possible because it is needed for me. Thanks. Atena ak2 ( talk) 17:27, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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T112147 if you have objections.Cullen, thank you so much for the super-fast response to my question about the new page for my friend! I took a look at the article for creation process, and it seems like the first step would be to make a mock-up in my sandbox. Is that right? Also, it would be great if you could let me know if you think that my friend is notable enough. His bio is available here, and both he and the organization he founded are frequently featured in national/international media. That said, i worry about drafting the page only to be told he's not notable enough.
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I have problem on getting the wikipedia page i created approved and i need help on this sir Itz tommzy ( talk) 18:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Cullen. Not sure if you're the right person to ask about this but you are a person to ask. Is it possible for me to update my Teahouse Host blurb under "Meet Your Hosts"? For example, I changed my username a bit a while back. Panini! 🥪 15:04, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Cullen. I don't normally go to unblock appeals, but thought I'd stretch outside my comfort zone a bit. Did I do that right? ( User talk:Tomcup1) Many thanks for your patience. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 22:13, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
I don't know why some editors get so hostile about classical music, but it is a great art that they are passionate about. I don't know the details of why you blocked FS when you did, but I found him to be very disruptive a few months ago with regard to the sexuality of Frederic Chopin, and I believe that you did what you had to do. Yuck. Robert McClenon ( talk) 15:15, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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Hello Jim you can call me Ben I am a new user, and I heard that you like helping new users. If you can help me that would be great.-- NonnySmith ( talk) 14:52, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey. I noticed a lot of stuff has been removed due to there being no official source for it. If that’s the case why is his name on there Dalauan Sparrow? There is no official source saying that’s his name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown Three ( talk • contribs) 18:26, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Just to follow up on this article. The semi-protection for it ended, and as feared, there have been further attempts to make bad faith edits (adding pejoratives, "real name" assertions, BLP violations, etc.) Thankfully, these edits have already been reverted by good faith editors. Based on the level of such activity so far, I think this article falls under consideration for some sort of further protection.
Shortscircuit (
talk)
23:49, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I need to ask a question please? Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 03:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
How does one insert an accurate photo for Howard Eddy Jr. in the Grand Funk Railroad Wikipedia members section. Howard Eddy Jr.’s is blank. Could you help with this? Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:13, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Still there? Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:17, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
The photo next to it is of Dennis Bellenger, who was the bassist for only a couple of years. I am Howard Eddy Jr. and I find it insulting that the time and effort that I put into that band has been thrown aside. That reunion tour was the first time Grand Funk had reunited since the mid 70’s. When Dennis Bellenger was in the band there were only 2 of the 3 originals in the group. When I was with them from 96’-98’ it had the original 3 members for the first time since those mid 70’s. I think I deserve to have a photo on the page Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I don’t understand what you mean about conflict of interest guidelines Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:36, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello? Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I believe I found the correct guideline and I read it. I am not trying to gain any advancement or get something from this except for the due respect. GFR would not still be together now had the 96’-98’ tour and Bosnia concerts happened. The shows were strong and the audiences loved that tour, therefore giving the band the confidence to keep it going, with or without Farner. So you say I was only in for a short period and that made it insignificant to the story? That’s not right! Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Typo: “had the 96’-98’ tour and Bosnia concerts NOT happened” Chromewobbleshaft ( talk) 04:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I edit with a Mobile device and a problem I’m facing currently is all the sections are automatically opened as opposed to me clicking on them before they open. Are you also facing this same problem? Celestina007 ( talk) 14:09, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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Celestina007: I had to dig through the source to find the answer. Best I can tell, if your device has a width of over 720 pixels, this is considered a "tablet" and all sections are expanded. Otherwise, there should be an "Expand all sections" option in your settings (under the hipster menu hamburger menu menu with three bars). So, either you recently upgraded to a larger device, switched to reading in landscape mode, or you accidentally checked that option.
Suffusion of Yellow (
talk)
19:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
The reason that that ANI got out of hand is that TRM inserted himself into it, while at the same time following me to another article I'd recently edited but he'd never edited. TRM has been doing this periodically to me for years. I can provide diffs if needed. I will NEVER stop calling TRM's interactions with me hounding because it's been clear to me for awhile that's what he does to me. p b p 20:39, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Dear Jim,
I am Anaïs, working into digital and energy transition topics and would like to become editor for Wikipedia. I used to be web journalist and editor, my main area of knowledge are : energy, sustainable development, Middle East and Africa Geopolitics. I am French national and fluent in English as well.
Many thanks for your feedback in where to start and how to contribute to the platform.
Best,
Anaïs.
Hi Jim, you helped me out sorting the conflict of my username and assisted in a question last year - User_talk:Cullen328/Archive_70#International_Usage_(de/en) - so I hope you can help me with a pending update a client made in February after a full disclosure of the username: Talk:Wellendorff Is there something could be done helping to get the translation and investiagation work a go for the pending article-update? Regards, -- mARTin ( talk) 20:53, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Jim,
I just discovered Teahouse, which is really cool. I have been editing on Wikipedia for 14 years but only sporadically and I am not really super knowledgeable about the references.
I posted a question to Teahouse a few minutes ago, but something weird happened. I don't know what. I also saw some input from an Elmidae? I messaged her/him. I don't even know how to look for responses to these questions.
I'd really appreciate any help. My email is sfbaybreezes@yahoo.com. I also got a notification from another member but also did not know how to respond?
For example, I always check "watch this page" but not sure where I can look at the "watches"? I don't think I've ever figured that out. pretty sad.
Thanks very much for any help.
Kris Wood
Kristinamwood ( talk) 13:43, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the great info, Jim! That was very useful. I know that I did Publish Changes. So not sure what went wrong. But I've gotten my questions answered. And Elmidae corrected my edit and also shared very helpful info. Thanks again.
Kris
Kristinamwood ( talk) 17:48, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Cullen, the user has been reported to AIV but is now resorting to attacks (see edit summaries). S0091 ( talk) 20:03, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
I read Wikipedia edit summary legent and I got alot of terms. Thank you. Arnt9099 ( talk) 18:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello Cullen328,
I have recently create a Wikipedia page. Unfortunately my submission was declined. This is the message that I’ve received.
The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.
I am very new in this field. It’ll be great if you can help me to correct the page.
Here is the page that I’ve created /info/en/?search=Draft:Prem_Kathir
Please help me to create a perfect page. Thank you.
Jim, Thank you for responding so kindly. The Tuam Herald article was dated 22nd July 1876 and headed - Custer's Army, a Tuam man. The Tuam Herald is a regional newspaper and is available to view on Irishnewsarchives.com. It's a paid site. I have it on pdf but can't share that here. It mentions his brother John (who was a pawnbroker in Tuam) and three of his nephews. He was only gone twenty years and he still had family in Tuam so I have no doubt but that he was born there. Whereas there are birth records for his five siblings, there is none for him. His father and brother are buried locally in Claretuam. According to the headstone, his father died in 1858. His mother was still alive in 1868. After being dismissed from the army in 1863, Myles reenlisted under the alias of Charles Thomas, he cited Amesbury as his place of birth and stuck with it and the lie apparently stuck.
Apart from the Tuam Herald report, I have found three records of his Irish birth:
Census return 1855 for West Newbury – Ireland is recorded as his place of birth. https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=4472&h=4067232&tid&pid&queryId=8043d68652f62795afd9bb2c6b7c1209&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8951&_phstart=successSource&fbclid=IwAR1kiuagOKgUNg20NVNCuboE1mj6fI_WvOxYPiC2oJMMZcuUyDy_ajKaHew
Enlistment form (1857) – Galway is recorded as his place of birth. https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1198&h=454619&tid&pid&queryId=2aa27f794ef1efc315b13c61ccb783e2&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8928&_phstart=successSource&fbclid=IwAR2n4qxUMxwqgLpsxTxaZEskg3Bu8GQrVbZqBozcDMxR4xxQ5w4ZZJFjhBk
Letter of acceptance of the commission of 2nd Lieutenant in 1863 - he says he was born in Ireland https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1198&h=454619&tid&pid&queryId=2aa27f794ef1efc315b13c61ccb783e2&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8928&_phstart=successSource&fbclid=IwAR2n4qxUMxwqgLpsxTxaZEskg3Bu8GQrVbZqBozcDMxR4xxQ5w4ZZJFjhBk — Preceding unsigned comment added by BuffyO'B ( talk • contribs) 07:18, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, you have answered me about my question. And what if the image is from an online image source? Can I upload the image that I downloaded from the image source? From where can I upload images?. Thank you. Bhu1147 ( talk) 04:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much. I can upload images from [Wikimedia Commons]] to Wikipedia right? What if even Wikimedia Commons even don't have it? How can I identify an Image as copyrighted? Bhu1147 ( talk) 07:04, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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Jim, I'm not sure if I am replying to your query in the correct place - apologies if I'm not - feel as if I'm in a Franz Kafka book!
The Tuam Herald has been around for 185 years printing stories of purely local interest. You won't find world news there unless it connects back to someone who lived in the locality - as was the case here. The Moylans were well-known business people, Myles's brother John was also a Town Commissioner for some years. Myles's nephews were aged 26, 24 and 20 respectively at the time the article was published and the eldest may have remembered Myles before he left Tuam for America. Myles's older brother Thomas worked in one of the many comb factories in West Newbury, MA and I think that another of his nephews went to MA - but can't prove it. The following is the report in the Tuam Herald:-
“Custer’s Army - A Tuam Man - July 22nd, 1876 The harrowing particulars of the massacre of General Custer’s men by the Sioux Indians are so familiar to everyone as to need no recapitulation at our hands. Everyone is conversant with the facts and few do not know how three hundred United States soldiers so ably generalled were decoyed into an ambush and ere escape could be made how all were mercilessly slaughtered. It is also in the memory of our readers how another company were almost meeting with the same fate. Well in this latter detachment we have just heard there was a Tuam man who fought his way out of the scrape as gallantly as he won the Major’s epaulets through the Civil War. Major Myles Moylan, brother of the late John Moylan, and uncle of Messrs. Tom, John and Richard, had command of a company of the 12th that had to fight hard and work desperately to escape with their lives out of the ambush and not meet with the same fate so many of their brave companies experienced. Major Moylan’s conduct on the occasion was most soldierlike, distinguished by a daring determination and a spirit that cannot fail meeting with high recognition from the military authorities of the Great Republic. While we congratulate our old townsman on his providential escape, we feel naturally proud to learn he had acquitted himself so creditably and upheld the well-known military character of the Celt on a foreign battlefield.”
Have you checked the three links I sent you - they all point to an Irishman and a Galway man? When he enlisted in 1857 he cited Galway as his place of birth. When he was dismissed from the army and re-enlisted under the alias Charles Thomas he cited Amesbury as his place of birth and I think that's when the confusion began.
Hi Jim,
I think that the least that needs to happen here is that it is acknowledged that Moylan’s place of birth is disputed. The purpose of Wiki is to portray an accurate story of prominent people or a version of events.
My two records are official records- one is a census return and the other is a U.S. Army record. Surely, they are legit.
1. My Myles Moylan who was a shoemaker from Ireland was living in West Newbury in 1855. Is the census record not legit?
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/4472/images/41265_307597-00514?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=8043d68652f62795afd9bb2c6b7c1209&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8951&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=4067232
2. According to Wiki, Myles Moylan, a shoemaker from Amesbury enlisted as a Private in the U.S. Army on June 8th, 1857. According to my Army record, a Myles Moylan, a shoemaker from GALWAY enlisted in the U.S. Army on June 8th, 1857. Have you a corresponding record for your Myles Moylan? Once again is my army record not legit? https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1198/images/MIUSA1798_102884-00403?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=2aa27f794ef1efc315b13c61ccb783e2&usePUB=true&_phsrc=pTu8928&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=454619
3. As for the letter of acceptance of the 2nd Lieutenancy in 1863, he himself claims Irish birth. I know he was not always truthful about his origins etc. The letter was written before he had a need to mis-state the truth i.e. before he was dismissed and re-enlisted as Charles Thomas in December 1863. Once he had thrown off his Irish identity, it may have been expedient for him to cast it way totally.
In reference to the Tuam Herald article, Myles’s people were prominent business people and well-known about the town of Tuam. In a small town in rural Ireland everybody knew everybody else. Myles was only gone twenty years at the time of that article and surely his nephews and friends knew who he was. His brother Thomas was in West Newbury, MA at the time and there is a record of Myles visiting him while on furlough (American newspaper). For the record, a Thomas Moylan and Margaret Reilly got married in Tuam in 1814. They had six children from 1816 to Myles’s birth. Five are recorded in church records. Is there any record for any child born to a Thomas Moylan and Margaret Reilly living in Amesbury, MA? Myles’s father Thomas is buried in Claretuam Cemetery, outside Tuam having died in 1858. Margaret was still alive in Tuam in 1868 – she was a beneficiary of the will of Anne Moylan, wife of the late John, mentioned in the Tuam Herald article. I have been researching Myles life story for some time and have not found any trace of his parents travelling to the US, living there or dying there.
Jim,
Apologies again for posting on the wrong page - it's as clear as mud to me where I should be posting. I was under the impression that I was replying to you, apologies again.
I have been asked to research this article to be published in the Journal of the Old Tuam Society in Nov 2021. It's a highly reputable journal that publishes articles of local historical importance. http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000237091?ui=standard&fbclid=IwAR16AuD40I2Sh-stfIj-NajM2tngTxZA97EKG1ILV_QekDOEUAXvr4j1I1g
It is available for study at the following institutions: The British Library, The National Library of Ireland, The Bodleian Library in the University of Oxford, Cambridge University Library, The National Library of Scotland in Edinburgh, The National Library of Wales in Aberystwyth and course all the Irish universities including Trinity College, Dublin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BuffyO'B ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Jim, at long last I have figured it out. The DISCUSS NOW prompt does not function on the laptop so I have had to go to NEW SECTION to reply to you and obviously started a new thread each time. The phone version is much simpler from that point of view. Anyway, thank you for your time and I'll leave you in peace. If primary sources like Myles's original enlistment form and an original census return does not warrant a question of doubt as to his place of birth I cannot think of any other route to take. I would have thought that they would have at least warranted a place in the references to allow people to make up their own minds.
Thanks again. BuffyO'B ( talk) 07:14, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
I appreciate the help. — Ched ( talk) 22:19, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
You blocked a user whom I just welcomed. In case of a really new user - and we should assume good faith - that person may not know what we mean by edit-war, consensus, not even block, may not know how to read edit history, has not used their own talk page yet, so how to find an article talk page. I remember that in the beginning, when something I had added disappeared, I just though I had made some mistake and added it again. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:21, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
since it closed before I saw your comment, decided to drop a note here. It's not so much that they lose notability, but it turns into a one event situation. A one hit wonder is not necessarily going to be long term notable, but we'll see. Agree that at the moment it's a clear keep StarM 00:25, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi,@ Cullen328 I've looked upon your redlinks, and created 2 articles, which are currently up for review. Here are the two drafts: Deborah Oropallo | Earl Thollander Tamingimpala ( talk) 22:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Jim! Thank you for answering my question earlier. It's true; Twitchell was not a serial killer (nor did I refer to him as such in the actual article) - but is instead a convicted murderer. Given the nature of his crimes, I think it's important to be mindful of how he is described in the article, and I think describing him as an "artist" without substantiating or citing that claim is particularly suspect, especially since one editor keeps adding it back. I'm wondering what to do next. I mentioned the Yogi Bhajan article earlier, because the disclaimer says that editors may be supporters of the subject of the article, which I suspect may be the case here.
Edit: I see you undid Verissa77's addition of "artist" in the Mark Twitchell article, but they have added it again, still uncited. Cisternet ( talk) 22:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Edit: I now see this has come up before already, 2 years ago, and that the person who raised it suspected that Verissa77 is Mr. Twitchell editing his own biography; I'm wondering if this warrants a sticker like the one on the Yogi Bhajan page: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests/Archive_128#Mark_Twitchell_Article Are there other editors to contact about this? Cisternet ( talk) 22:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your input into this matter Cullen328. I don't know what your day job is, but it obviously is not a professional musician! Professional music is all about self-promotion. It is a highly competitive business; with only a very lucky few making a good living out of it. Self-promotion is an accepted and indeed expected part of the music business, so as a professional musician, I am not going to apologise or make excuses for being seen as using a Wikipedia article as a means of self-promotion. Your belief that "using" Wikipedia as a means to self-promote is a big no no if you are a professional musician seems very misguided! I hope this small insight into the world of a professional musician and self-promotion will help you with your future editing with Wikipedia. Anton Cleary Solo guitarist/street performer Anton Cleary ( talk) 21:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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