Hello, Joe. I hope you don't mind calling you "Joe". After 3 years, I think that we established some friendly collaborative relationship so that we can use our own names. I think sometimes ago I asked you about studying in UK. As you might remember and as I have stated on my user page, I intend to start a second bachelor's degree in cultural anthropology or anthropology somewhere in UK. What I need is some help which are the best places to study in UK? I only don't wanna live and study in a big city like London or Manchester. I am really fed up with city life. Really, really fucking fed up. I would mostly like some quiet provincial ~20,000-50,000 town where to study. So, do you have any suggestions what are the best social sciences institutions and faculties, excluding those in big cities, where I can enroll? I noticed that you study in Nottingham Trent University and want to ask you is this good school. You live in UK and you can most probably provide some sort of feedback. If you can't recommend anything for my subject, I hope that you can at least point some kind of message board or community where I can ask some questions. Thank you very much, dear friend.
Sometimes... I don't know mate. Sometimes, I feel that I need some kind of... recognition for my work and dedication, perhaps. I don't know. There hasn't been a genuine "thank you". I have been working here for... well, you know. We have started around the same time back in 2004. All that lack of authorship... lack of distinctiveness gives me sometimes little tickles. I really love and appreciate my work here. I don't know how much I will be able to work here. As long as possible I suppose. I don't know. What I really want and would love to is to see that my work is being recognized. No, I am not talking about these barnstars and medals. Just... probably, a mention is enough. I guess so... I would really like to be referred as a dedicated and significant contributor.
That's great to hear it really. It is great to hear a praise from a great colleague and great friend like you, really. I appreciate it. I want to be acknowledged and this isn't small distintion to hear it. Thank you very much mate.
P.S. By the way, your new picture is great. The old one was as drunken as mine ;).
Aright Our Joe? I don't think he's quit, I seem to remember him saying something about taking the kids he teaches on a trip, or something like that anyway.
I agree totally with your comment about The Beatles being their NAME and as you know, it is also a trade name, but this was just met with "then it would always have to be written in block capitals"! Why? the trade name isn't written in block capitals! I made the point that it should be treated just the same as Coca Cola, and that was also met with the same reply - how? Coca Cola isn't written in block Caps! Now they're even dropping "The" to lower case in album info boxes: eg The Beatles how does that work?
Anyway, I hope you're well we've been very busy, this is the first time I've been o line for almost a week! Cheers Joe, all the best, Vera, Chuck & Dave 15:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Fuck these Yanks Joe, I said if they take Andrea, they take me with him. Look after yourself Pal, don't give up the guitar, and be good to yourself! Cheers La, Tony
(undent) I'm still around, doing a little on Beatles articles as and when, and editing other stuff and bugging a whole different bunch of editors elsewhere. I'm not coming back to the Project just yet, since I am pretty much part of the problem there and I would look like a right cunt if I came merrily waltzing back now that some major contributors - a couple of whom I disagreed with in the amending and application of policy - have also left. Since you, Joe, seem to be the only one now left I think I will make my final statement on this whole sorry mess here; Andreasedge, and V,C & D, John Cardinal and Lukobe were/are excellent editors who contributed great stuff to The Beatles Project. Andrew in particular really sorted out some articles. I enjoyed interacting with them in the most part, and think their loss is a loss to Wikipedia. I'm sorry things couldn't be sorted out. Mark 12:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
My Collette just showed me what you'd put on the page, and I just want to say thank you Joe - that was a very kind thing to do. BTW She, an me Baby Girls think you are very handsome! I hope that cheers you up, cos they look like film stars, (although I say so meself) but they do! Take Good Care, Charles Hawtrey and The Deaf Aids
But I think I'll give The Beatles a rest for a while, I'll stick me oar inta summat else for a while! Cheers La, Vera, Chuck & Dave 19:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Studying Law are we? I did some of that - it's a tough slog. -- kingboyk 22:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Uhh, you young Oasis fan you, I actually worked in the next studio (Virgin "Townhouse studio") to Mr. Collins in the 80s, and played his drums when he was taking a long lunch break. I also liked early Genesis, Yes, and lots of other now-hated bands when I was a young spraffer, BTW. I will never apologise for that, because young people do that sort of thing.
I am thinking of working on Eric Sykes (because he was a genius) and Muhammad Ali (because he was also a genius with his gloves as well as his mind). I bought both books when I was in London with an Austrian steelworkers English class, so I have the page number CITATIONS. Will that do, you loveable young rogue, you? (P.S. Me Austrian bird knows exactly who Crestville and Vera Chuck and Dave are. She's probably bored to death by me talking about you both, but she's a good egg, as Vera says... :) P.S. She even knows who Kingboyk is... andreasegde 23:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Couldn't agree more - long may it last. BTW, its lovely to have you both back but are we all fucking insomniacs now?? ...bloody student twat
As Crestville has been so wildly foolish as to post a picture of his mush on his page, he must be subjected to speech and thought captions. What was Crestville thinking when he had the photo taken, one asks oneself?... (If you open Explorer twice you can flick back and forth between the captions and the photo - which is funnier...)
Joe, you've been here longer than me, Andrew or Tony. You know Wikipedia doesn't require accuracy, but verifiability. If it has been published somewhere it can be quoted, and if it hasn't then it can't. Same with the 't/T'; what is true does not matter, only what can be proven (that is a point of Law you might be familiar with - yes, I do read your and Kingboyk's pages). If Andrew wishes to believe he is the wronged party then that is his perogative, but if he wants to get on with his wikilife then he ought to drop the matter and find something else to direct his energies at. LessHeard vanU 16:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC) Yeah, try putting this header on your userpage!
As part of the Alternative music WikiProject, we're gathering a list of sources on this page. Could you take a look and perhaps add any written references you have access to? Thanks! CloudNine 09:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Kingboyk asked me to look at Mimi Smith's page, because he wants to put her up for FA. I agreed to go through it (being the glutton for punishment that I am, and because Mimi is me Mum) but it needs a photo of her. Can I beg you to try and find one and upload it? If you do I will buy you an evening of drinks of your choice the next time I am up north. I must also add that Mimi getting an FA would be the last chance she has of getting one over on B-class John. I can almost hear her cackling in her grave. andreasegde 19:25, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, this is really good stuff - look at Brian's page, because it's the Battle of the Year, and more intellectually stimulating than the The. I think I have found a twat/sockpuppet who is a gobshite, and a Trojan Horse. Uhh.. I'm starting to enjoy it. Can I quote your post that said, "Take that rod out yer arse"? :)) andreasegde 00:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I thought that you'd like to know that two articles that you created, Joey's apartment and Monica's apartment, are listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joey's apartment and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monica's apartment. WODUP 00:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
(* oops, I forgot that some people have no sense of humor.) Tvoz | talk 03:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Please do not attack the subject of an article as you just did re Mark Langford. Such edits will not be tolerated and this one has, of course, been removed. Insulting the recently dead is unacceptable, SqueakBox 19:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Karma it may well be and certainly intriguing though if karma really worked how did someone like Joseph Stalin get to die an old man in his bed? I've driven through Marbella, definitely one of the craziest places for driving I have ever known (full of rich fast mercs etc), SqueakBox 20:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Well as he is dead I wont remove it from here, ie see WP:BLP, SqueakBox 19:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Jeez, Joe, and I was going to suggest you hang around Andrea's to make sure he doesn't do himself a disservice... What is this? Getting blocked is the new cool? LessHeard vanU 20:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
You are right, Darcy, we girls really like the lovin'. Can't get too much. Thanks for letting me know about that one! Tvoz | talk 01:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Kingboyk has put her up for an FA gang-bang. Itsy-bitsy teeny-weeny photo? Try and get one of her in her knickers, or something seductive at least... andreasegde 19:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
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Who has been eating my porridge/uploading photos? (Goldilocks and The Three bears) I only came to ask you what you you thought of The Libertines, but I guess you'll be snowed under answering all of that lot above... Uhh-err, missus.. (Don't be talking about rods and nether regions now, me young lad...) andreasegde 19:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
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hey there, I've noticed you're a Python fan and have been working on some Python-related material here on Wiki. I thought I'd let you know that I have proposed a Wikiproject dedicated to Monty Python and would like you to show your interest. You can do that by adding your name under the interested user page on the proposal page. Fell free to leave comments there as well. I look forward to starting this project as soon as some interest shows itself. Gan fon 02:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I have just realised that there is an excellent way of solving the "The" problem, and it's very easy. Put the name of the band at the start of a sentence, and it is totally correct. I will give you an example:
There you go - job done, and nobody can complain :)) andreasegde 20:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
As I am not a member of The Beatles project, I see no reason to abide by its policy rules, as it does not represent Wikipedia as a whole, but insists on enforcing its own self-determined policy on contributors. I truly believe that this is dictatorial, and does not have anything to do with the true purpose of Wikipedia. The Beatles' project is a break-away group, and should be reminded of what Wikipedia really is. andreasegde 18:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC
Where's your Germanic friend with the girl's name? You know, the one who used to be in U2! I need his help with the Mimi Smith article :) -- kingboyk 23:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
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For absolutely no reason at all... Dancing peanut butter jellybean-thingy. The sneaky BASTARD... 19:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Gizza gram you Scalleeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Joe I've just souced a quote in this article, and seen an allegedly sourced quote that the Traffic Warden's name was "Meta Davis". Is this a wind up do think? A book is quoted, but there is no ISBN what do you think? Cheers Pal, Vera, Chuck & Dave 18:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I know a kid called Sharlotte. Fucking idiots.-- Crestville 11:52, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
By very boring men in tweed jackets smoking pipes.-- Crestville 16:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Gallagher is also quoted as saying of Jackson's behaviour "For Michael Jackson to come over to this country after what's all gone on - and I think we all know what I'm talking about here - to dress in a white robe, right, thinking he's the Messiah - I mean who does he think he is? Me?"
That is worthy of John Lemon and the Beekles... :)) andreasegde 00:44, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I have a number of issues that I want to clear up, outside of the restricted arena of the edit summary. I am also concerned that you seem to think that I must 'answer to you', which is not the case as there is no such thing as ownership on wikipedia. Anyway, I have several material issues with your edits:
"Which part of this statemens, which you removed, suggest reactions were one-sided: Cocker received mixed support and ciritsism from the British press. I cannot believe you removed this claimeing it did not suggest reaction were mixed! That's all it says! Think on in future."
Firstly, you accuse me of removing parts of the statement that suggested reactions from the press were one-sided. Then you said yourself that the statement "did not suggest reaction were mixed," completely contradicting yourself. Simply, you say that I have been removing parts from that statement which say that the press was one-sided, then you said that the statement was already inherantly one-sided. I don't know what you're trying to get at in this confusing rant.
Still on the fifth point, what shocked me was how you lied. I did NOTHING to the statement Cocker received mixed support and criticism from the British press. I did not TOUCH THAT SECTION. I removed the Melody Maker reference, due to nonexistant sources, and also because if you say that Michael received support and criticism, then you should have an example of both. As I have said above, you simply added another anti-Jackson newspaper article. I will not stand for it, and as said above I'm removing both of the newspaper bits until you add two different articles with differentiating POVs.
I took a lot of effort to explain to you every change and rebuttal I have against your edits. I was in no way obliged to do this, despite you telling me in some way or other to 'answer to you', in the hopes of avoiding an edit war. I am not servitudal to you, and am not going to answer to you in the future unless you damn well do the same thing to me. I hope I make myself clear, and I hope that you have read this through thoroughly, instead of skipping down to the end. -- Paaerduag 08:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
As Paaerduag has "This user will always believe in Michael Jackson" on his own page (at the very top) I wonder if he truly knows what neutral is. If one always believes in Jacko, does that not smack of being one-sided? What if Mr. Jackson said next week that he had walked on the moon? Would one believe his statement/in him?
What does believing "in" Jacko really mean? It elevates his status to something god-like. One can believe in God, but that does not say that you believe God (because he never answers the telephone). I suggest that Paaerduag take a deep breath, and think about whether Jacko has become a "Pop-God" for him, and has replaced traditional religion for Paaerduag. When will the first "The King of Pop" church be opened? Sorry, that should have been "The God of Pop" church (contributions in the form of hard cash are always happily accepted). andreasegde 22:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Ok, Crestville and associated clan of "I wanna bag Paaerduag-ers". I do not see Michael as a God. I am his fan. It's amazing the blind faith haters have to the media, assuming everything Michael does is wrong. And it's incredible how fans are turned upon simply because they have different opinions. Borders on discrimination for me. Anyway, I'm assuming the whole clan of you, who all hate me, are listening. So this is where I'm gonna put in what I'm changing with the Brit Awards sections.
1. I am using the British Phonographic Industry quote as a source for the 'three children' thing, which means I am not going to shove it down the bottom to remove its relevance, but am rather putting it up top. I know you hate the fact that your idol Cocker most likely injured three children, and will do your best to hide this, but I'm putting it up there, not for a personal vendetta (before you accuse me of that) but rather because it is a referenced source, more reliable than that random witness in my opinion. But if you must the witness can stay. However, the Phonographic Industry quote is going first because it 'logically flows' on. You also, in your version, said that 'sony contends the number is three', when infact the British Phonographic Industry said three as well. What you've just done is a lie.
2. You say that sony and the phonographic industry quotes balance out the "mixed reactions of the press" with the sun and melody maker. May I enlighten you to the fact that Sony and the British Phonographic Industry ARE NOT RELATED TO THE PRESS IN ANY WAY. You've added quotes from Cocker, which balances the Michael/Sony quote, and the witness quote, which balances the Phonographic Industry quote. the sun and melody maker are pure anti-Jackson. I'm removing sun and melody maker.
3. I am putting back the thing about him spreading his arms between the trees; I think you are lying when you say you watched the video, that or you were sleeping, because he spreads his arms between two trees as wind blows back his hair, much like in the performance. This needs no reference, in my opinion. It is just plain obvious. Watch the video before you blast me about how hypocritical I am.
These are the problems I have and I'm gonna make my changes based upon these fundamental issues I have with your 'version'. Oh by the way, does the whole gang have to insult me over my user page? I do have a brain you know. I'm not a blind sheep. I actually read into the trial (for your information I only began to like Michael after the trial) and after weighing up what I thought was relevant, I came to the conclusion that he was innocent. That's my opinion. Don't you insult me because of my views, because I don't believe they overtly make me dump rubbish into the article, unlike many people who hate Michael, who simply dump as many anti-Jackson 'things' into the article. -- Paaerduag 11:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, I said the trial thing because you said on your talk page something like "amazing the blind faith of superfans", which I am not. I actually weighed up whether I thought he was innocent or not, and i'm telling you this because you called me a superfan. your reversion is plain edit-warring anyway. also, reactions were mixed. I'm putting the source in to prove that reactions were mixed. I'm not going to let your reversion stand. and please don't bring in an administrator you're best friends with. I actually think it's unfair YOU choose the administrator solely. you obviously can't find a diplomatic solution, and instead accuse me of blind faith (read your own talk page if you forgot that comment you made). -- Paaerduag 02:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
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I made a few minor changes to your edit: I put the phonographic industry quote after the thing about the 3 children getting injured, to qualify that particular statement. I left that other witnesses' statement afterwards. I just thought that considering they ran the awards they'd know, and that it naturally flows to have the 'official' stance followed by any other witnessess. I also changed 'appeared' to 'alleged' because clearly not everyone thought he was making Christ-like poses. many saw him as simply being a medicant. I don't think that I'm the only one being 'unreasonable', just so you know, you say I had the 'blind faith of a fan' remember? anyway, I hope that this is one step closer to a resolution. -- Paaerduag 12:45, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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yes, I'm happy with everything. I'll try see if there are some anti-cocker news stories to balance out your ones from Melody Maker and the Sun, but in terms of everything already there I'm fine with it. I do believe that we can divert our attention to other areas of wikipedia now. -- Paaerduag 07:23, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Dear Crestville, please put a Fair Use summary on your up-loaded photos, or they won't be accepted. It's totally frigging' easy, you dollop of lard. Just copy one from Sutcliffe (not Peter) Freddie or any of the others when you upload the photo. I learned how to do it (in the school of hard knocks, the University of life, as well as the kindergarten of having the shit kicked out of you. :)) egde 19:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
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(It used to flummox me, until I realised that it was a piece o' piss... :)
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Heh. Thanks. I really geeked out there. Oftentimes it makes me sound like a real know-it-all twat, but I just can't help myself. Airplane sounds do strange things to me and the RR/Packard Merlin is very distinctive. Good thing there wasn't enough room to opine about the possible aircraft types (Mustangs or Spits or Hurris or a Lanc or...) Rekiwi 23:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Arrrhlright? You bin puttin hevy manners pon dem dam yankee batty boys isit!
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I would just like to thank my agent, the dancing girls, the bears an speshley you Joe, without whom, it would not have been possible! Vera, Chuck & Dave 16:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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17:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, she told him where the condoms were - which was careless talk! (In the cupboard behind the aspirins and the tampax). (BTW, I love you for your comments on Mimi's talk page.) egde 18:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
"Sorry, I must have deleted that bit by mistake. I was trying to revert a mean sprited and potentially slanderous peice in the opening paragraph. My bad."
No more Michael and the kids. Le sigh. How are you, fluffy boy?-- Manboobies 16:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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Shurrup Cresty, you're making me laugh :)) (yer gonna get archived yer are... :)) I just wanted to wander about a bit without having lots of discussions/complaints on my page. Anyway, I think it's about time to have a break from being a complete twat with my nose in a book that is balanced on my lap. (I need a back doctor that specialises in spines, because the spines of my books keep falling apart.) After recently getting Astrid Kirchherr a GA I think that I deserve a rest (never mind Macca, Mimi, Julia, Freddie, Neil, Mal, Stuart, Cynthia and Brian, for which I didn't get one single, sodding, effin' LEGAL Barnstar... NO, don't send me one of your bogus ones - the attic is full... :) I will archive this conversation so as not to encourage others. I like having a nice, clean page, and I have to admit my fear of "You have new messages" which I always think are tidings of woe. It's a breath of fresh air to have none... Yours, the friend that you have never met: egde 16:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
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Look at this and tell me I have no sense of humour... Linz egde 16:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm just starting this: The Fifth Beatle egde 17:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
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I made a google map for us all Google map and your garden hut domicile was easy to spot. "Crestville Terrace" ring any bells? :)) andreasegde 22:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
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I have copied this from the shy Kingboyk's page. andreasegde 19:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
"I'm planning to run in the Wikimedia Board Election. If you have any issues which you feel the Foundation need to address, or if you would be willing to endorse my candidature, please email me". -- kingboyk 15:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
To endorse me. I need 15, only have 2 so far, so u have a chance to be #3 :) : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2007/Endorsements/Submission#Kingboyk
The_Fifth_Beatle You have to start an account though... andreasegde 19:35, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
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Hi there,
You have just reverted my changes to Mimi Smith on the grounds that John Lennon should be referred to as Lennon rather than John. However, Mimi, George, Julia, Yoko, Cynthia, Julian, etc. are all referred to by their first names. Why should John be different? The Stickler 17:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Non, non et al. They should always be referred to by their last name - as I THINK wikipolicy states (I may well be wrong and feel free to correct me) - unless that would prove confusing - for example talking about John and Fred Lennon or Noel and Liam Gallager. We're not on first name tewrms with these people Drew! I like wine, but my head hurts.-- Crestville 02:01, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
OK. I want to make a few points here.
219.90.184.224 15:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Now you are being downright rude. Why am I wrong? Your argument seems to amount to little more than "because I say so". Yes, you made some vague reference to Wikipedia policy, but I directly quoted the relevent parts of the policy and its support for your position is somewhat ambiguous - especially when interpreted in the light of
WP:IAR. Now you want me to ask ANYONE else. Well, the only people who have expressed an opinion here are The Stickler, andreasegde, you and me. So, should I ask andreasegde? He clearly expressed doubts above (which you of course dismissed) and, as the article is almost entirely his work, perhaps his common sense opinion should carry more weight than yours (Yes, yes, I know. You created the article. So what? You don't own it any more than I do.)
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15:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Hello again,
I'm a little dismayed to see where this has led. My changes just aren't worth this sort of carry on. While the article undoubtedly does need quite a bit of reworking, all I did was take a rather small and rather lazy first step. Even if that step had been accepted, the hard work would still have remained.
Thank you for your concern 219.90.184.224, but I wasn't discouraged by having my changes reverted; although I think it might be best if I steer clear of Beatle related articles from now on. There are many other areas where I can probably be more useful anyway.
Let's leave it here. Be nice to each other. The Stickler 17:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
This is weird. The guy I have been calling "Kingboyk" for the last year in my English class (because I couldn't remember his name and it seemed to fit) looks exactly like the real one! The real Kingboyk - the photo of his Austrian double-ganger will appear soon... -- andreasegde 17:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
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Terribly sorry to be answering a question you asked on 27 July 2006 only now. Blame my total loss of interest in Wikipedia. It just occurs to me that you might have had a similar loss of interest, but I since I have started answering your question I shall finish rather than check the dates on your edits :) The Huskisson monument is at the place where Huskisson was killed. I am not sure that there was ever a real station there (I did quite a lot of edits at the time on the subject of the Liverpool-Manchester railway and its stations; my reference material mentioend that there was a station at Parkside but I am not sure why there should have been - there was (and is) no great reason to have one there. But at a later date another railway (Golborne I think) joined the Liverpool-Manchester line in the Parkside area. Maybe the station was built because of the junction? Don't know, but if it was, it was a good time after the Huskisson bump. Also, there is no evidence of a station ever having been there. But then, it would have been a long time ago and there WAS (apparently) a station at Barton Moss but there is no obvious evidence that that ever existed either) but trains stopped there to have a water change (if I recall correctly). The photo shows the monument from the nearest accessible location (the bridge taking the A573 across the railway line). When I was young the monument was totally accessible but was vandalised. It has been rennovated but is now within the fencing erected to stop children getting on the train tracks and so to take a better photo I would have had to trespass. Trespassing isn't so bad, but trains are properly hard. lmno 03:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
What happened, Joe? Did you find your computer under a pile of discarded pizza boxes, or have you found a paying job that lets you log on to the internet? See ya around? LessHeard vanU 14:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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Hey Joe - haven't seen your name on my watchlist in a while! Good pickup on MJ. (He's not commonly known as that in the US either, just sometimes.) Tvoz | talk 18:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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Hello, Joe. I hope you don't mind calling you "Joe". After 3 years, I think that we established some friendly collaborative relationship so that we can use our own names. I think sometimes ago I asked you about studying in UK. As you might remember and as I have stated on my user page, I intend to start a second bachelor's degree in cultural anthropology or anthropology somewhere in UK. What I need is some help which are the best places to study in UK? I only don't wanna live and study in a big city like London or Manchester. I am really fed up with city life. Really, really fucking fed up. I would mostly like some quiet provincial ~20,000-50,000 town where to study. So, do you have any suggestions what are the best social sciences institutions and faculties, excluding those in big cities, where I can enroll? I noticed that you study in Nottingham Trent University and want to ask you is this good school. You live in UK and you can most probably provide some sort of feedback. If you can't recommend anything for my subject, I hope that you can at least point some kind of message board or community where I can ask some questions. Thank you very much, dear friend.
Sometimes... I don't know mate. Sometimes, I feel that I need some kind of... recognition for my work and dedication, perhaps. I don't know. There hasn't been a genuine "thank you". I have been working here for... well, you know. We have started around the same time back in 2004. All that lack of authorship... lack of distinctiveness gives me sometimes little tickles. I really love and appreciate my work here. I don't know how much I will be able to work here. As long as possible I suppose. I don't know. What I really want and would love to is to see that my work is being recognized. No, I am not talking about these barnstars and medals. Just... probably, a mention is enough. I guess so... I would really like to be referred as a dedicated and significant contributor.
That's great to hear it really. It is great to hear a praise from a great colleague and great friend like you, really. I appreciate it. I want to be acknowledged and this isn't small distintion to hear it. Thank you very much mate.
P.S. By the way, your new picture is great. The old one was as drunken as mine ;).
Aright Our Joe? I don't think he's quit, I seem to remember him saying something about taking the kids he teaches on a trip, or something like that anyway.
I agree totally with your comment about The Beatles being their NAME and as you know, it is also a trade name, but this was just met with "then it would always have to be written in block capitals"! Why? the trade name isn't written in block capitals! I made the point that it should be treated just the same as Coca Cola, and that was also met with the same reply - how? Coca Cola isn't written in block Caps! Now they're even dropping "The" to lower case in album info boxes: eg The Beatles how does that work?
Anyway, I hope you're well we've been very busy, this is the first time I've been o line for almost a week! Cheers Joe, all the best, Vera, Chuck & Dave 15:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Fuck these Yanks Joe, I said if they take Andrea, they take me with him. Look after yourself Pal, don't give up the guitar, and be good to yourself! Cheers La, Tony
(undent) I'm still around, doing a little on Beatles articles as and when, and editing other stuff and bugging a whole different bunch of editors elsewhere. I'm not coming back to the Project just yet, since I am pretty much part of the problem there and I would look like a right cunt if I came merrily waltzing back now that some major contributors - a couple of whom I disagreed with in the amending and application of policy - have also left. Since you, Joe, seem to be the only one now left I think I will make my final statement on this whole sorry mess here; Andreasedge, and V,C & D, John Cardinal and Lukobe were/are excellent editors who contributed great stuff to The Beatles Project. Andrew in particular really sorted out some articles. I enjoyed interacting with them in the most part, and think their loss is a loss to Wikipedia. I'm sorry things couldn't be sorted out. Mark 12:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
My Collette just showed me what you'd put on the page, and I just want to say thank you Joe - that was a very kind thing to do. BTW She, an me Baby Girls think you are very handsome! I hope that cheers you up, cos they look like film stars, (although I say so meself) but they do! Take Good Care, Charles Hawtrey and The Deaf Aids
But I think I'll give The Beatles a rest for a while, I'll stick me oar inta summat else for a while! Cheers La, Vera, Chuck & Dave 19:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Studying Law are we? I did some of that - it's a tough slog. -- kingboyk 22:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Uhh, you young Oasis fan you, I actually worked in the next studio (Virgin "Townhouse studio") to Mr. Collins in the 80s, and played his drums when he was taking a long lunch break. I also liked early Genesis, Yes, and lots of other now-hated bands when I was a young spraffer, BTW. I will never apologise for that, because young people do that sort of thing.
I am thinking of working on Eric Sykes (because he was a genius) and Muhammad Ali (because he was also a genius with his gloves as well as his mind). I bought both books when I was in London with an Austrian steelworkers English class, so I have the page number CITATIONS. Will that do, you loveable young rogue, you? (P.S. Me Austrian bird knows exactly who Crestville and Vera Chuck and Dave are. She's probably bored to death by me talking about you both, but she's a good egg, as Vera says... :) P.S. She even knows who Kingboyk is... andreasegde 23:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Couldn't agree more - long may it last. BTW, its lovely to have you both back but are we all fucking insomniacs now?? ...bloody student twat
As Crestville has been so wildly foolish as to post a picture of his mush on his page, he must be subjected to speech and thought captions. What was Crestville thinking when he had the photo taken, one asks oneself?... (If you open Explorer twice you can flick back and forth between the captions and the photo - which is funnier...)
Joe, you've been here longer than me, Andrew or Tony. You know Wikipedia doesn't require accuracy, but verifiability. If it has been published somewhere it can be quoted, and if it hasn't then it can't. Same with the 't/T'; what is true does not matter, only what can be proven (that is a point of Law you might be familiar with - yes, I do read your and Kingboyk's pages). If Andrew wishes to believe he is the wronged party then that is his perogative, but if he wants to get on with his wikilife then he ought to drop the matter and find something else to direct his energies at. LessHeard vanU 16:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC) Yeah, try putting this header on your userpage!
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Kingboyk asked me to look at Mimi Smith's page, because he wants to put her up for FA. I agreed to go through it (being the glutton for punishment that I am, and because Mimi is me Mum) but it needs a photo of her. Can I beg you to try and find one and upload it? If you do I will buy you an evening of drinks of your choice the next time I am up north. I must also add that Mimi getting an FA would be the last chance she has of getting one over on B-class John. I can almost hear her cackling in her grave. andreasegde 19:25, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, this is really good stuff - look at Brian's page, because it's the Battle of the Year, and more intellectually stimulating than the The. I think I have found a twat/sockpuppet who is a gobshite, and a Trojan Horse. Uhh.. I'm starting to enjoy it. Can I quote your post that said, "Take that rod out yer arse"? :)) andreasegde 00:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
I thought that you'd like to know that two articles that you created, Joey's apartment and Monica's apartment, are listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joey's apartment and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monica's apartment. WODUP 00:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
(* oops, I forgot that some people have no sense of humor.) Tvoz | talk 03:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Please do not attack the subject of an article as you just did re Mark Langford. Such edits will not be tolerated and this one has, of course, been removed. Insulting the recently dead is unacceptable, SqueakBox 19:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Karma it may well be and certainly intriguing though if karma really worked how did someone like Joseph Stalin get to die an old man in his bed? I've driven through Marbella, definitely one of the craziest places for driving I have ever known (full of rich fast mercs etc), SqueakBox 20:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Well as he is dead I wont remove it from here, ie see WP:BLP, SqueakBox 19:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Jeez, Joe, and I was going to suggest you hang around Andrea's to make sure he doesn't do himself a disservice... What is this? Getting blocked is the new cool? LessHeard vanU 20:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
You are right, Darcy, we girls really like the lovin'. Can't get too much. Thanks for letting me know about that one! Tvoz | talk 01:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Kingboyk has put her up for an FA gang-bang. Itsy-bitsy teeny-weeny photo? Try and get one of her in her knickers, or something seductive at least... andreasegde 19:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
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Who has been eating my porridge/uploading photos? (Goldilocks and The Three bears) I only came to ask you what you you thought of The Libertines, but I guess you'll be snowed under answering all of that lot above... Uhh-err, missus.. (Don't be talking about rods and nether regions now, me young lad...) andreasegde 19:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
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hey there, I've noticed you're a Python fan and have been working on some Python-related material here on Wiki. I thought I'd let you know that I have proposed a Wikiproject dedicated to Monty Python and would like you to show your interest. You can do that by adding your name under the interested user page on the proposal page. Fell free to leave comments there as well. I look forward to starting this project as soon as some interest shows itself. Gan fon 02:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I have just realised that there is an excellent way of solving the "The" problem, and it's very easy. Put the name of the band at the start of a sentence, and it is totally correct. I will give you an example:
There you go - job done, and nobody can complain :)) andreasegde 20:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
As I am not a member of The Beatles project, I see no reason to abide by its policy rules, as it does not represent Wikipedia as a whole, but insists on enforcing its own self-determined policy on contributors. I truly believe that this is dictatorial, and does not have anything to do with the true purpose of Wikipedia. The Beatles' project is a break-away group, and should be reminded of what Wikipedia really is. andreasegde 18:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC
Where's your Germanic friend with the girl's name? You know, the one who used to be in U2! I need his help with the Mimi Smith article :) -- kingboyk 23:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
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For absolutely no reason at all... Dancing peanut butter jellybean-thingy. The sneaky BASTARD... 19:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Gizza gram you Scalleeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Joe I've just souced a quote in this article, and seen an allegedly sourced quote that the Traffic Warden's name was "Meta Davis". Is this a wind up do think? A book is quoted, but there is no ISBN what do you think? Cheers Pal, Vera, Chuck & Dave 18:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I know a kid called Sharlotte. Fucking idiots.-- Crestville 11:52, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
By very boring men in tweed jackets smoking pipes.-- Crestville 16:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Gallagher is also quoted as saying of Jackson's behaviour "For Michael Jackson to come over to this country after what's all gone on - and I think we all know what I'm talking about here - to dress in a white robe, right, thinking he's the Messiah - I mean who does he think he is? Me?"
That is worthy of John Lemon and the Beekles... :)) andreasegde 00:44, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I have a number of issues that I want to clear up, outside of the restricted arena of the edit summary. I am also concerned that you seem to think that I must 'answer to you', which is not the case as there is no such thing as ownership on wikipedia. Anyway, I have several material issues with your edits:
"Which part of this statemens, which you removed, suggest reactions were one-sided: Cocker received mixed support and ciritsism from the British press. I cannot believe you removed this claimeing it did not suggest reaction were mixed! That's all it says! Think on in future."
Firstly, you accuse me of removing parts of the statement that suggested reactions from the press were one-sided. Then you said yourself that the statement "did not suggest reaction were mixed," completely contradicting yourself. Simply, you say that I have been removing parts from that statement which say that the press was one-sided, then you said that the statement was already inherantly one-sided. I don't know what you're trying to get at in this confusing rant.
Still on the fifth point, what shocked me was how you lied. I did NOTHING to the statement Cocker received mixed support and criticism from the British press. I did not TOUCH THAT SECTION. I removed the Melody Maker reference, due to nonexistant sources, and also because if you say that Michael received support and criticism, then you should have an example of both. As I have said above, you simply added another anti-Jackson newspaper article. I will not stand for it, and as said above I'm removing both of the newspaper bits until you add two different articles with differentiating POVs.
I took a lot of effort to explain to you every change and rebuttal I have against your edits. I was in no way obliged to do this, despite you telling me in some way or other to 'answer to you', in the hopes of avoiding an edit war. I am not servitudal to you, and am not going to answer to you in the future unless you damn well do the same thing to me. I hope I make myself clear, and I hope that you have read this through thoroughly, instead of skipping down to the end. -- Paaerduag 08:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
As Paaerduag has "This user will always believe in Michael Jackson" on his own page (at the very top) I wonder if he truly knows what neutral is. If one always believes in Jacko, does that not smack of being one-sided? What if Mr. Jackson said next week that he had walked on the moon? Would one believe his statement/in him?
What does believing "in" Jacko really mean? It elevates his status to something god-like. One can believe in God, but that does not say that you believe God (because he never answers the telephone). I suggest that Paaerduag take a deep breath, and think about whether Jacko has become a "Pop-God" for him, and has replaced traditional religion for Paaerduag. When will the first "The King of Pop" church be opened? Sorry, that should have been "The God of Pop" church (contributions in the form of hard cash are always happily accepted). andreasegde 22:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Ok, Crestville and associated clan of "I wanna bag Paaerduag-ers". I do not see Michael as a God. I am his fan. It's amazing the blind faith haters have to the media, assuming everything Michael does is wrong. And it's incredible how fans are turned upon simply because they have different opinions. Borders on discrimination for me. Anyway, I'm assuming the whole clan of you, who all hate me, are listening. So this is where I'm gonna put in what I'm changing with the Brit Awards sections.
1. I am using the British Phonographic Industry quote as a source for the 'three children' thing, which means I am not going to shove it down the bottom to remove its relevance, but am rather putting it up top. I know you hate the fact that your idol Cocker most likely injured three children, and will do your best to hide this, but I'm putting it up there, not for a personal vendetta (before you accuse me of that) but rather because it is a referenced source, more reliable than that random witness in my opinion. But if you must the witness can stay. However, the Phonographic Industry quote is going first because it 'logically flows' on. You also, in your version, said that 'sony contends the number is three', when infact the British Phonographic Industry said three as well. What you've just done is a lie.
2. You say that sony and the phonographic industry quotes balance out the "mixed reactions of the press" with the sun and melody maker. May I enlighten you to the fact that Sony and the British Phonographic Industry ARE NOT RELATED TO THE PRESS IN ANY WAY. You've added quotes from Cocker, which balances the Michael/Sony quote, and the witness quote, which balances the Phonographic Industry quote. the sun and melody maker are pure anti-Jackson. I'm removing sun and melody maker.
3. I am putting back the thing about him spreading his arms between the trees; I think you are lying when you say you watched the video, that or you were sleeping, because he spreads his arms between two trees as wind blows back his hair, much like in the performance. This needs no reference, in my opinion. It is just plain obvious. Watch the video before you blast me about how hypocritical I am.
These are the problems I have and I'm gonna make my changes based upon these fundamental issues I have with your 'version'. Oh by the way, does the whole gang have to insult me over my user page? I do have a brain you know. I'm not a blind sheep. I actually read into the trial (for your information I only began to like Michael after the trial) and after weighing up what I thought was relevant, I came to the conclusion that he was innocent. That's my opinion. Don't you insult me because of my views, because I don't believe they overtly make me dump rubbish into the article, unlike many people who hate Michael, who simply dump as many anti-Jackson 'things' into the article. -- Paaerduag 11:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, I said the trial thing because you said on your talk page something like "amazing the blind faith of superfans", which I am not. I actually weighed up whether I thought he was innocent or not, and i'm telling you this because you called me a superfan. your reversion is plain edit-warring anyway. also, reactions were mixed. I'm putting the source in to prove that reactions were mixed. I'm not going to let your reversion stand. and please don't bring in an administrator you're best friends with. I actually think it's unfair YOU choose the administrator solely. you obviously can't find a diplomatic solution, and instead accuse me of blind faith (read your own talk page if you forgot that comment you made). -- Paaerduag 02:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
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I made a few minor changes to your edit: I put the phonographic industry quote after the thing about the 3 children getting injured, to qualify that particular statement. I left that other witnesses' statement afterwards. I just thought that considering they ran the awards they'd know, and that it naturally flows to have the 'official' stance followed by any other witnessess. I also changed 'appeared' to 'alleged' because clearly not everyone thought he was making Christ-like poses. many saw him as simply being a medicant. I don't think that I'm the only one being 'unreasonable', just so you know, you say I had the 'blind faith of a fan' remember? anyway, I hope that this is one step closer to a resolution. -- Paaerduag 12:45, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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yes, I'm happy with everything. I'll try see if there are some anti-cocker news stories to balance out your ones from Melody Maker and the Sun, but in terms of everything already there I'm fine with it. I do believe that we can divert our attention to other areas of wikipedia now. -- Paaerduag 07:23, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
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(It used to flummox me, until I realised that it was a piece o' piss... :)
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Heh. Thanks. I really geeked out there. Oftentimes it makes me sound like a real know-it-all twat, but I just can't help myself. Airplane sounds do strange things to me and the RR/Packard Merlin is very distinctive. Good thing there wasn't enough room to opine about the possible aircraft types (Mustangs or Spits or Hurris or a Lanc or...) Rekiwi 23:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Arrrhlright? You bin puttin hevy manners pon dem dam yankee batty boys isit!
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I would just like to thank my agent, the dancing girls, the bears an speshley you Joe, without whom, it would not have been possible! Vera, Chuck & Dave 16:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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Yeah, she told him where the condoms were - which was careless talk! (In the cupboard behind the aspirins and the tampax). (BTW, I love you for your comments on Mimi's talk page.) egde 18:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
"Sorry, I must have deleted that bit by mistake. I was trying to revert a mean sprited and potentially slanderous peice in the opening paragraph. My bad."
No more Michael and the kids. Le sigh. How are you, fluffy boy?-- Manboobies 16:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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Shurrup Cresty, you're making me laugh :)) (yer gonna get archived yer are... :)) I just wanted to wander about a bit without having lots of discussions/complaints on my page. Anyway, I think it's about time to have a break from being a complete twat with my nose in a book that is balanced on my lap. (I need a back doctor that specialises in spines, because the spines of my books keep falling apart.) After recently getting Astrid Kirchherr a GA I think that I deserve a rest (never mind Macca, Mimi, Julia, Freddie, Neil, Mal, Stuart, Cynthia and Brian, for which I didn't get one single, sodding, effin' LEGAL Barnstar... NO, don't send me one of your bogus ones - the attic is full... :) I will archive this conversation so as not to encourage others. I like having a nice, clean page, and I have to admit my fear of "You have new messages" which I always think are tidings of woe. It's a breath of fresh air to have none... Yours, the friend that you have never met: egde 16:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
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Look at this and tell me I have no sense of humour... Linz egde 16:42, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm just starting this: The Fifth Beatle egde 17:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
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I made a google map for us all Google map and your garden hut domicile was easy to spot. "Crestville Terrace" ring any bells? :)) andreasegde 22:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
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I have copied this from the shy Kingboyk's page. andreasegde 19:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
"I'm planning to run in the Wikimedia Board Election. If you have any issues which you feel the Foundation need to address, or if you would be willing to endorse my candidature, please email me". -- kingboyk 15:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
To endorse me. I need 15, only have 2 so far, so u have a chance to be #3 :) : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2007/Endorsements/Submission#Kingboyk
The_Fifth_Beatle You have to start an account though... andreasegde 19:35, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
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Hi there,
You have just reverted my changes to Mimi Smith on the grounds that John Lennon should be referred to as Lennon rather than John. However, Mimi, George, Julia, Yoko, Cynthia, Julian, etc. are all referred to by their first names. Why should John be different? The Stickler 17:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Non, non et al. They should always be referred to by their last name - as I THINK wikipolicy states (I may well be wrong and feel free to correct me) - unless that would prove confusing - for example talking about John and Fred Lennon or Noel and Liam Gallager. We're not on first name tewrms with these people Drew! I like wine, but my head hurts.-- Crestville 02:01, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
OK. I want to make a few points here.
219.90.184.224 15:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Now you are being downright rude. Why am I wrong? Your argument seems to amount to little more than "because I say so". Yes, you made some vague reference to Wikipedia policy, but I directly quoted the relevent parts of the policy and its support for your position is somewhat ambiguous - especially when interpreted in the light of
WP:IAR. Now you want me to ask ANYONE else. Well, the only people who have expressed an opinion here are The Stickler, andreasegde, you and me. So, should I ask andreasegde? He clearly expressed doubts above (which you of course dismissed) and, as the article is almost entirely his work, perhaps his common sense opinion should carry more weight than yours (Yes, yes, I know. You created the article. So what? You don't own it any more than I do.)
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Hello again,
I'm a little dismayed to see where this has led. My changes just aren't worth this sort of carry on. While the article undoubtedly does need quite a bit of reworking, all I did was take a rather small and rather lazy first step. Even if that step had been accepted, the hard work would still have remained.
Thank you for your concern 219.90.184.224, but I wasn't discouraged by having my changes reverted; although I think it might be best if I steer clear of Beatle related articles from now on. There are many other areas where I can probably be more useful anyway.
Let's leave it here. Be nice to each other. The Stickler 17:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
This is weird. The guy I have been calling "Kingboyk" for the last year in my English class (because I couldn't remember his name and it seemed to fit) looks exactly like the real one! The real Kingboyk - the photo of his Austrian double-ganger will appear soon... -- andreasegde 17:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
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I have tagged Image:Chapman.jpg as {{ orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{ not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. Core desat 03:56, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Cdcollection10.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.
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I have tagged Image:Blur-On-Your-Own-156501.jpg as {{ no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{ non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 15:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I have tagged Image:Fawlty_towers.jpg as a disputed use of non-free media, because there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please clarify your fair use rationale on the image description page. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 04:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
I have tagged Image:Rollwithit1.jpg as {{ no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using {{ non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 16:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I have tagged Image:Fawlty_towers.jpg as a disputed use of non-free media, because there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please clarify your fair use rationale on the image description page. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 18:37, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
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Terribly sorry to be answering a question you asked on 27 July 2006 only now. Blame my total loss of interest in Wikipedia. It just occurs to me that you might have had a similar loss of interest, but I since I have started answering your question I shall finish rather than check the dates on your edits :) The Huskisson monument is at the place where Huskisson was killed. I am not sure that there was ever a real station there (I did quite a lot of edits at the time on the subject of the Liverpool-Manchester railway and its stations; my reference material mentioend that there was a station at Parkside but I am not sure why there should have been - there was (and is) no great reason to have one there. But at a later date another railway (Golborne I think) joined the Liverpool-Manchester line in the Parkside area. Maybe the station was built because of the junction? Don't know, but if it was, it was a good time after the Huskisson bump. Also, there is no evidence of a station ever having been there. But then, it would have been a long time ago and there WAS (apparently) a station at Barton Moss but there is no obvious evidence that that ever existed either) but trains stopped there to have a water change (if I recall correctly). The photo shows the monument from the nearest accessible location (the bridge taking the A573 across the railway line). When I was young the monument was totally accessible but was vandalised. It has been rennovated but is now within the fencing erected to stop children getting on the train tracks and so to take a better photo I would have had to trespass. Trespassing isn't so bad, but trains are properly hard. lmno 03:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
What happened, Joe? Did you find your computer under a pile of discarded pizza boxes, or have you found a paying job that lets you log on to the internet? See ya around? LessHeard vanU 14:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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Hey Joe - haven't seen your name on my watchlist in a while! Good pickup on MJ. (He's not commonly known as that in the US either, just sometimes.) Tvoz | talk 18:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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