Chuck Marean ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Please unblock me. I will try to get a mentor, and I won’t again ask for a false accuser to be banned. Instead, I will try to explain to the person why I think he’s wrong.--
Decline reason:
You are community banned. As such, no individual admin has the authority to overturn the block. I will initiate a discussion at the admins' noticeboard. Note that I am declining this purely on a procedural basis; I consider myself involved, as I commented at the AN ban proposal. – Juliancolton | Talk 03:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Posted on behalf of the blocked editor as he is unable to edit this page. Nakon 03:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:'What links here' screen shot 2-28-08 for talk page.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. IngerAlHaosului ( talk) 14:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
{{ Adminhelp}} Please move this appeal to ANI for consideration. I understand why I was community banned and I’ll do constructive edits instead. My community ban was because I did some major edits without a consensus and sufficient preparation. For example, I reworded a Current Events blurb to say the victims of the Madoff investment fraud had not received a government bailout (when the references merely stated they had lost a lot of money). I’ve been thinking of ways to find consensus, such as working in my user space and getting my edits reviewed, looking at edit histories to try to find out who wrote what I want to edit, mentioning the edit idea on the article’s talk page, and putting forth more effort when reading sources and writing. I apologize for editing Current Events without knowing for certain I had a consensus. Rather than asking, I supposed everyone would agree with my edit. I believe it is uncivil to call people disruptive or vandals or uncivil or stupid or not neutral or bad editors, and so forth, although I can understand a writer being upset when someone else edits or corrects his writing. So, to improve my editing, I could ask if I have a consensus and I could read the policies I haven’t read and I could find and read a book on how to find sources and so forth. I think my community ban is no longer needed, as I’ve just explained. Chuck Marean 08:31, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Request denied, community ban not lifted (see below section).
Swarm(
Talk) 04:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I’m seeking a mentor to help me learn to help Wikipedia better.
Pages I started include: 2008–10 California budget crisis, City of Film, Digital Sky Technologies, Want ad, Al-Yamamah Private University, Mini blind, Codex Washingtonianus, Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox window covering, and Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox window covering articles.
Other pages I’ve worked on include: Links and URLs, and Character formatting.
I made some good “In the news” nominations and additions to current events.
Other than that, I’ve made unnecessary edits. The reason for this is my first impression of Wikipedia was that it was a recreational editing site. My understanding was that articles were bought and then placed onweb for people to edit. I did not notice at first that Wikipedia was being used as a serious encyclopedia by various search engines.
I think I can edit much better than I have been. I could consider Wikipedia to be an encyclopedia rather than an editing site. I could limit my editing to writing well-researched material and minor edits.
I don’t want Wikipedia publishing negative opinions about me, so I would like to be un-banned. My community ban says it is subject to review and mentorship.Therefore, I’ve listed some of the better edits I’ve done, and I’m looking for mentoring. -- Chuck Marean 19:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
It might help if you could show us that your understanding of the world has improved, as although you caused some problems with bad code, most of your problems were due to you not having the same viewpoint as a large majority of other editors.
To be honest, I'm not sure this has helped your case any, and I believe you are likely to remain blocked. However, you should note that you do not need to be unblocked to read Wikipedia. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 13:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Chuck Marean ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I’ll consider this an encyclopedia rather than an editing site, editing in the main space after asking others to read what I wrote. If I think investment fraud is not worth 150 years in jail, or that Congress should coin money to pay California a large franchise tax, I suppose blog sites are better suited for such expression. Redirects are ok, and editing ideas might be regarding Wikipedia:Introduction and Wikipedia:Tutorial still getting us interested in editing rather than doing research and writing articles. Please e-mail me when I am unbanned. Chuck Marean 03:48, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I'm sorry if you feel citing this essay is a personal attack on you (as you indicated above) but competence is required and I don't think you understand even now what Wikipedia is and how it is supposed to work. If you wish to appeal this further I recommend you wait for at least six months from the time of the last community discussion on your ban, which was closed 2-21-10 and email the ban appeals subcommittee. Beeblebrox ( talk) 04:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Hey Chuck. In case you haven't followed the discussion regarding your community ban at AN/I, I'm dropping by to let you know that unfortunately, there was a unanimous consensus against lifting your ban. You can see the archived discussion here. In light of this, I'm removing you from the adoption request backlog. Sorry it didn't turn out the way you hoped. -- Swarm( Talk) 04:36, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
Adminhelp|Please end my community ban. I don’t believe I was incompetent. I believe I was
following the directions. They said to edit articles, which is what I was doing. While it may have been
too harsh for me to ask for a mean editor to be banned, banning me instead does not stop such
editors. You should address the problem of mean editors. The discussions calling me incompetent
were surprisingly unfriendly rather than constructive. I’m willing to edit better. Does
anyone have any suggestions on how to edit better? --
Chuck Marean 19:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)}}
No admin can "end" your community ban. If you want to draft a proposal on lifting your ban (since it has been a few months since your last request), I would be more than happy to copy it to
WP:ANI for you to establish consensus, but that consensus will be required. No admin will lift this ban without consensus. Feel free to draft an unban proposal for posting up there. I strongly encourage that any proposal you write include verbiage regarding adoption mentoring and how you intend to correct your behavior from previous issues. --
Shirik (
Questions or Comments?) 00:48, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ adoptme}}
Please copy my appeal to
WP:ANI.
I would like to be unblocked and unbanned and I’m willing to be mentored. I think I am capable of editing well. When I suggested the editor being mean to me be banned, I think I was over tired, causing my mind to be vandalized. Several of my peaceful news items had already been removed that week and then someone called my edit against the unconstitutional sentence someone received “nonsense.” Those who called my editing incompetent were exaggerating, in my opinion. Since encyclopedia sites are retrieving Wikipedia articles, I suppose considering Wikipedia to be an editing site is outdated, although the directions encourage editing. To improve my editing, I'll only edit articles when this would definitely improve them and when not over tired. To suggest edits on my talk page, I think I need to be un-banned and unblocked first. Chuck Marean 20:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in responding. I just discovered that this section exists with my name on it.
I admit that I think Chuck Marean is unfit to edit Wikipedia due to reasons of competence. However, my block was in obedience to the wishes of the community as expressed in the relevant WP:AN/I thread; I have since had negligible interaction to this matter. If the community decides to lift this block, despite my own opinions I am willing to abide by that.
I don't think I need to say anything more. -- llywrch ( talk) 05:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Editors considering mentoring Chuck should weigh this [1] before making a decision. He iro 02:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Per this edit [2] it appears you still don't understand why you were banned. Bernie Madoffs sentence was not unconstitutional, he plead guilty in a court of law and was convicted. Anyone who is as detached from reality as to continually assert this is not compatible with this project. He iro 20:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Chuck continues to use 'edit' (I thought Wikipedia was for editing etc) as if it were something different to creating content, so I'm still not convinced that he understands what went wrong, mainly because I don't understand what he means by 'edit'. Perhaps if we could clarify this? -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I thought “edit” meant to improve the wording of something written. The Introduction and Tutorial said you don’t need to be perfect, which implied there was nothing wrong with humor such as pluralizing The Revelation. However, I suppose you’re serious, possibly because the articles are now retrieved by encyclopedia search engines as if authoritative articles. The “overtemplating” was because this was an editing site. I was just trying out the templates. So what? I suppose you’re answer would be “it’s not an editing site. It’s an encyclopedia students can afford.” Also, no one ever tried mentoring me. From the start Zimmer was criticizing me without explanation, as if inspired by the word Marine. If we’re not allowed to edit for recreational purposes, that should be pointed out in the introduction, tutorial, and main page – because there is nothing at all obvious about it. If this is a writing project rather than an editing site, that means doing library research and writing articles, which is not what the word, edit, means. If I were to consider this a writing project, if unblocked I wouldn’t be able to do much here. If I wrote an article, I could then ad it to the site with one or two edits but that’s about all there would be to my editing, unless I started patrolling recent changes, which is a very strange thing for an editing site. Maybe the phrase or clause (I don’t remember which it is) “anybody can edit” confused me. I suppose it’s difficult to overcome a first impression. Chuck Marean 19:48, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
As a result of the discussion on AN/I, I find that there is no consensus to lift your block at this time. -- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 15:28, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I was following the directions. To improve the introductory directions, you could add to Wikipedia:Introduction something like “Please finish your articles before submitting them; patrolling recent changes has become too difficult; this encyclopedia is not a blog or recreational editing site” and if it’s true it would not be rejected by the community. If un-banned, I won’t use Wikipedia as an editing site, because its articles are being retrieved by sites as if it were seriously an encyclopedia. Rather than blaming me for my “liberal” editing, perhaps the introductory directions need to be improved. If you still don’t trust me, I’ll ask again later. I don’t have an article to submit at this time anyhow. Chuck Marean 19:43, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Template:My talk archives has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Fleet Command ( talk) 16:54, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Chuck marean 4-8-08.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Kelly hi! 20:14, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Chuck Marean.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Kelly hi! 20:15, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Category:How-to has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Chuck Marean ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Please unblock me. I will try to get a mentor, and I won’t again ask for a false accuser to be banned. Instead, I will try to explain to the person why I think he’s wrong.--
Decline reason:
You are community banned. As such, no individual admin has the authority to overturn the block. I will initiate a discussion at the admins' noticeboard. Note that I am declining this purely on a procedural basis; I consider myself involved, as I commented at the AN ban proposal. – Juliancolton | Talk 03:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Posted on behalf of the blocked editor as he is unable to edit this page. Nakon 03:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:'What links here' screen shot 2-28-08 for talk page.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. IngerAlHaosului ( talk) 14:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
{{ Adminhelp}} Please move this appeal to ANI for consideration. I understand why I was community banned and I’ll do constructive edits instead. My community ban was because I did some major edits without a consensus and sufficient preparation. For example, I reworded a Current Events blurb to say the victims of the Madoff investment fraud had not received a government bailout (when the references merely stated they had lost a lot of money). I’ve been thinking of ways to find consensus, such as working in my user space and getting my edits reviewed, looking at edit histories to try to find out who wrote what I want to edit, mentioning the edit idea on the article’s talk page, and putting forth more effort when reading sources and writing. I apologize for editing Current Events without knowing for certain I had a consensus. Rather than asking, I supposed everyone would agree with my edit. I believe it is uncivil to call people disruptive or vandals or uncivil or stupid or not neutral or bad editors, and so forth, although I can understand a writer being upset when someone else edits or corrects his writing. So, to improve my editing, I could ask if I have a consensus and I could read the policies I haven’t read and I could find and read a book on how to find sources and so forth. I think my community ban is no longer needed, as I’ve just explained. Chuck Marean 08:31, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Request denied, community ban not lifted (see below section).
Swarm(
Talk) 04:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I’m seeking a mentor to help me learn to help Wikipedia better.
Pages I started include: 2008–10 California budget crisis, City of Film, Digital Sky Technologies, Want ad, Al-Yamamah Private University, Mini blind, Codex Washingtonianus, Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox window covering, and Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox window covering articles.
Other pages I’ve worked on include: Links and URLs, and Character formatting.
I made some good “In the news” nominations and additions to current events.
Other than that, I’ve made unnecessary edits. The reason for this is my first impression of Wikipedia was that it was a recreational editing site. My understanding was that articles were bought and then placed onweb for people to edit. I did not notice at first that Wikipedia was being used as a serious encyclopedia by various search engines.
I think I can edit much better than I have been. I could consider Wikipedia to be an encyclopedia rather than an editing site. I could limit my editing to writing well-researched material and minor edits.
I don’t want Wikipedia publishing negative opinions about me, so I would like to be un-banned. My community ban says it is subject to review and mentorship.Therefore, I’ve listed some of the better edits I’ve done, and I’m looking for mentoring. -- Chuck Marean 19:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
It might help if you could show us that your understanding of the world has improved, as although you caused some problems with bad code, most of your problems were due to you not having the same viewpoint as a large majority of other editors.
To be honest, I'm not sure this has helped your case any, and I believe you are likely to remain blocked. However, you should note that you do not need to be unblocked to read Wikipedia. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 13:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Chuck Marean ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I’ll consider this an encyclopedia rather than an editing site, editing in the main space after asking others to read what I wrote. If I think investment fraud is not worth 150 years in jail, or that Congress should coin money to pay California a large franchise tax, I suppose blog sites are better suited for such expression. Redirects are ok, and editing ideas might be regarding Wikipedia:Introduction and Wikipedia:Tutorial still getting us interested in editing rather than doing research and writing articles. Please e-mail me when I am unbanned. Chuck Marean 03:48, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I'm sorry if you feel citing this essay is a personal attack on you (as you indicated above) but competence is required and I don't think you understand even now what Wikipedia is and how it is supposed to work. If you wish to appeal this further I recommend you wait for at least six months from the time of the last community discussion on your ban, which was closed 2-21-10 and email the ban appeals subcommittee. Beeblebrox ( talk) 04:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Hey Chuck. In case you haven't followed the discussion regarding your community ban at AN/I, I'm dropping by to let you know that unfortunately, there was a unanimous consensus against lifting your ban. You can see the archived discussion here. In light of this, I'm removing you from the adoption request backlog. Sorry it didn't turn out the way you hoped. -- Swarm( Talk) 04:36, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
Adminhelp|Please end my community ban. I don’t believe I was incompetent. I believe I was
following the directions. They said to edit articles, which is what I was doing. While it may have been
too harsh for me to ask for a mean editor to be banned, banning me instead does not stop such
editors. You should address the problem of mean editors. The discussions calling me incompetent
were surprisingly unfriendly rather than constructive. I’m willing to edit better. Does
anyone have any suggestions on how to edit better? --
Chuck Marean 19:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)}}
No admin can "end" your community ban. If you want to draft a proposal on lifting your ban (since it has been a few months since your last request), I would be more than happy to copy it to
WP:ANI for you to establish consensus, but that consensus will be required. No admin will lift this ban without consensus. Feel free to draft an unban proposal for posting up there. I strongly encourage that any proposal you write include verbiage regarding adoption mentoring and how you intend to correct your behavior from previous issues. --
Shirik (
Questions or Comments?) 00:48, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ adoptme}}
Please copy my appeal to
WP:ANI.
I would like to be unblocked and unbanned and I’m willing to be mentored. I think I am capable of editing well. When I suggested the editor being mean to me be banned, I think I was over tired, causing my mind to be vandalized. Several of my peaceful news items had already been removed that week and then someone called my edit against the unconstitutional sentence someone received “nonsense.” Those who called my editing incompetent were exaggerating, in my opinion. Since encyclopedia sites are retrieving Wikipedia articles, I suppose considering Wikipedia to be an editing site is outdated, although the directions encourage editing. To improve my editing, I'll only edit articles when this would definitely improve them and when not over tired. To suggest edits on my talk page, I think I need to be un-banned and unblocked first. Chuck Marean 20:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in responding. I just discovered that this section exists with my name on it.
I admit that I think Chuck Marean is unfit to edit Wikipedia due to reasons of competence. However, my block was in obedience to the wishes of the community as expressed in the relevant WP:AN/I thread; I have since had negligible interaction to this matter. If the community decides to lift this block, despite my own opinions I am willing to abide by that.
I don't think I need to say anything more. -- llywrch ( talk) 05:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Editors considering mentoring Chuck should weigh this [1] before making a decision. He iro 02:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Per this edit [2] it appears you still don't understand why you were banned. Bernie Madoffs sentence was not unconstitutional, he plead guilty in a court of law and was convicted. Anyone who is as detached from reality as to continually assert this is not compatible with this project. He iro 20:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Chuck continues to use 'edit' (I thought Wikipedia was for editing etc) as if it were something different to creating content, so I'm still not convinced that he understands what went wrong, mainly because I don't understand what he means by 'edit'. Perhaps if we could clarify this? -- Elen of the Roads ( talk) 21:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I thought “edit” meant to improve the wording of something written. The Introduction and Tutorial said you don’t need to be perfect, which implied there was nothing wrong with humor such as pluralizing The Revelation. However, I suppose you’re serious, possibly because the articles are now retrieved by encyclopedia search engines as if authoritative articles. The “overtemplating” was because this was an editing site. I was just trying out the templates. So what? I suppose you’re answer would be “it’s not an editing site. It’s an encyclopedia students can afford.” Also, no one ever tried mentoring me. From the start Zimmer was criticizing me without explanation, as if inspired by the word Marine. If we’re not allowed to edit for recreational purposes, that should be pointed out in the introduction, tutorial, and main page – because there is nothing at all obvious about it. If this is a writing project rather than an editing site, that means doing library research and writing articles, which is not what the word, edit, means. If I were to consider this a writing project, if unblocked I wouldn’t be able to do much here. If I wrote an article, I could then ad it to the site with one or two edits but that’s about all there would be to my editing, unless I started patrolling recent changes, which is a very strange thing for an editing site. Maybe the phrase or clause (I don’t remember which it is) “anybody can edit” confused me. I suppose it’s difficult to overcome a first impression. Chuck Marean 19:48, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
As a result of the discussion on AN/I, I find that there is no consensus to lift your block at this time. -- SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 15:28, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I was following the directions. To improve the introductory directions, you could add to Wikipedia:Introduction something like “Please finish your articles before submitting them; patrolling recent changes has become too difficult; this encyclopedia is not a blog or recreational editing site” and if it’s true it would not be rejected by the community. If un-banned, I won’t use Wikipedia as an editing site, because its articles are being retrieved by sites as if it were seriously an encyclopedia. Rather than blaming me for my “liberal” editing, perhaps the introductory directions need to be improved. If you still don’t trust me, I’ll ask again later. I don’t have an article to submit at this time anyhow. Chuck Marean 19:43, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Template:My talk archives has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Fleet Command ( talk) 16:54, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Chuck marean 4-8-08.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Kelly hi! 20:14, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Chuck Marean.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Kelly hi! 20:15, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Category:How-to has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)