Dearest new user, please stop editing Pinto's account - Wikipedia doesnt exist for you to edit pages. Dont touch it as your sole purpose here seems to be this account. Babasalichai ( talk) 12:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Why Do you exist as a single user account only for Pinto ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Babasalichai ( talk • contribs) 12:25, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
Two concerns on Yoshiyahu Yosef Pinto. First, you appear to be engaged in an edit war over the contents of the article. This is not allowed per Wikipedia policies. In general, if you disagree with another user about the article, you must go to the talk page and discuss the issue, working together to achieve consensus. Simply reverting back and forth is not allowed. In fact, we have what we call a "bright-line rule"--3RR. This says that you may (almost, and the exceptions don't apply here) never revert the same article more than 3 times in 24 hours. You (and the other user) have both reached that limit; if you go over, you may be temporarily blocked from editing. Please stop, go to the talk page, and discuss the changes.
Second, in a recent edit summary ( this one), you said that the other editors additions were libel. While you may not have done so intentionally, it is important that you never make what could be construed as a legal threat on Wikipedia. I don't think you intended that as a threat, and probably weren't aware of that policy, but even a single additional comment of this nature will almost inevitably result in you being blocked. We consider legal threats to have extremely chilling effects on collaborative editing, and thus they are entirely prohibited. Qwyrxian ( talk) 15:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The user you're referring to has been installing biased edits on the page for months and he has been doing so via multiple accounts. This is not news, of course, as I have had a number of discussions with other editors about the aforementioned user. Please look at the history and the discussion page -- it's all there. Also, this user has repeatedly sent me messages saying that "I am not allowed to edit particular pages." Look at my user page. I am repeatedly threatened by this individual (from his various accounts). The user has been blocked on a number of occasions for posting what is perceived as potentially libelous material. Per Wiki, "contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libellous." The user posted "potentially libellous" material that was "poorly sourced" and I removed it. Also, I do believe that my edits are not an "edit war," as what I have done falls under 3RR exemptions. According to Wiki's 3RR exemptions, "Removal of libelous, biased, unsourced, or poorly sourced contentious material that violates the policy on biographies of living persons (BLP)." While we should not rely solely on this exemption, if you view the history of the page in question, the user you refer to has a history of vandalism and biased edits. For that reason, discussion often falls on deaf ears. Beobjectiveplease ( talk)
I fail to understand what part of the edits are in accurate. Did he not host a fundraiser at 15 CPW ? So whats so wrong here. beobjective doesnt like AOL as a source ? AOL you think is libelous and doesnt fact check items ? Thats the source you claim isnt accurate ? Give me a break. And when 1 speaks of 3RR is not beobjective the one responding to my original edits ? This is a controversial leader and it simply should be reflected as such. Babasalichai ( talk) 01:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Please do not again remove sourced material from AOL and as user Qwyrxian states Second, in a recent edit summary ( this one), you said that the other editors additions were libel. While you may not have done so intentionally, it is important that you never make what could be construed as a legal threat on Wikipedia. I don't think you intended that as a threat, and probably weren't aware of that policy, but even a single additional comment of this nature will almost inevitably result in you being blocked. Be objective and balanced. USer Dianna collaborated and made edits. Babasalichai ( talk) 01:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Does Pinto attend shul on Shabbat ? is that relevant ? He doesnt, right ? AOL is a fact - He isnt representative of Judaism, as represented even by Bracha's line about a phone to Gd, right ? Thats a fact. Your objectivity is biased. Babasalichai ( talk) 22:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Pinto did in fact host a fundraiser - it failed but he did. Include that and I will accept your other change. A more than reasonable compromise. Babasalichai ( talk) 01:33, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Once again will ask that you please discuss changes before making them. Other editors made interim changes and you once again went in and just made them without discussion. Lets use a talk page 1st please. I keep trying to communicate without response. Babasalichai ( talk) 13:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Am trying to communicate and you refuse to dialogue. Babasalichai ( talk) 15:41, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
You are simply lying and have never discusssed these with me - Theres been 1 other user and thats all. And the fact that 2 months you bullied me into accepting a change doesnt mean that your version of history is accurate. Rabbi Pinto's reputation keeps changing and as media continues to emerge so too much this page be changed. Not paying his mortgage is the same issue he had with Obstfeld and is now more relevant. And lastly if we are talking about things which have been accepted, everyone had accepted 15 CPW but you singlehandledly edited it. Babasalichai ( talk) 18:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC) Babasalichai ( talk) 18:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
When more media comes out will you challenge it this week if it talks about underground and raises other questions ? Babasalichai ( talk) 03:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Someone may buy websites like pinto.org and place content there, no ? Babasalichai ( talk) 11:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Why ? if Someone owned the sites and had content there it wouldnt be ok ? Babasalichai ( talk) 12:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
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Amazingly bad behavior on your behalf quite disappointing. When more media comes out and police investigations go public soon on Pinto will you be willing to admit them to wiki ? Babasalichai ( talk) 04:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Quote above from beobjectiveplease shows his honesty and he was caught for being a sockpuppet - keep it in mind: "It is no secret that Baba has been using multiple accounts and I have often discussed edits with those accounts on their user pages, while we have had some conversations on Pinto's discussion board. Baba was even investigated for this and a formal complaint was filed (there wasn't enough evidence, however, to confirm -- although Baba would change between accounts and continue conversations as if he was on one single account)." The person who filed the complaint was beobectiveplease in a different name. Babasalichai ( talk) 04:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
What was the reason to slander others ? What was the reason you lied and were caught ? Sure check my account use... and keep waking up daily and checking newspapers because the stories are coming as are Pinto police investigations and lawsuits. Babasalichai ( talk) 04:14, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
You can email me the reasons you know how to reach me. There was no reason other than your desire to lie but all these things too will be uncovered for the idol worshipper underworld figure Pinto. Babasalichai ( talk) 04:15, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
is the so called violation saying it on this users Page instead of on Pintos page ? I thought it'd be Ok to say it since this person works with Pinto and only exists to edit Pintos account ? Babasalichai ( talk) 10:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
By chance, did you create the account Wallewins ( talk · contribs)? Tiptoety talk 04:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
You seem to be having trouble with the fact that breast cancer awareness involves fear. Let me suggest that you actually go read the source that's cited at Susan G. Komen for the Cure, instead of guessing. The author is quite direct, and it turns out that the word fear is on thirty-six separate pages in the book. You can see the relevant pages at Amazon.com, if you don't want to pick it up from the library. The whole section on breast cancer branding is worth reading, actually (starts on p. 133).
If you happen to know anything about advertising, it shouldn't surprise you: fear and greed are the fundamental market movers. In the instant case, women who are afraid of breast cancer donate far more money to Komen than people who are unafraid of breast cancer. (Their corporate sponsors are motivated by greed, but the individual donors are motivated significantly by fear.) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 07:20, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
This is the longest feature ever written on Pinto, 1 he cooperated with and interviewed for. Why did you delete it ? What part do you think should stay ? Babasalichai ( talk) 15:44, 17 March 2011 (UTC) Seperately, I assume when the next media comes out shortly of a similar sort you will accept it with 2 sources right ? Babasalichai ( talk) 15:44, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Please stop editing the article about Susan G. Komen for the Cure until you have answered my multiple questions and objections at Talk:Susan G. Komen for the Cure. I'm not posting these long explanations and quotations from reliable sources for the fun of it. You have recently claimed that a sentence followed immediately by an inline citation was somehow "unsourced", and that other sources somehow don't contain the material that they plainly do. Please join me on the talk page and explain how you have come to these conclusions. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, it now looks as though conduit (virus) has got the chop by Athaenara. I protected it against creation to stop another move happening. A ban has to be a consensus of people here, so I cannot ban myself. Also a block would be inappropriate as this situation is a content dispute and not enough talking about it has taken place yet. I agree that Conduit (publisher network and platform) is not a virus. If is some kind of adware or malware then that statement can only be included with a reliable source, and not by removing everything else in the article. Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 08:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
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Dearest new user, please stop editing Pinto's account - Wikipedia doesnt exist for you to edit pages. Dont touch it as your sole purpose here seems to be this account. Babasalichai ( talk) 12:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Why Do you exist as a single user account only for Pinto ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Babasalichai ( talk • contribs) 12:25, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
Two concerns on Yoshiyahu Yosef Pinto. First, you appear to be engaged in an edit war over the contents of the article. This is not allowed per Wikipedia policies. In general, if you disagree with another user about the article, you must go to the talk page and discuss the issue, working together to achieve consensus. Simply reverting back and forth is not allowed. In fact, we have what we call a "bright-line rule"--3RR. This says that you may (almost, and the exceptions don't apply here) never revert the same article more than 3 times in 24 hours. You (and the other user) have both reached that limit; if you go over, you may be temporarily blocked from editing. Please stop, go to the talk page, and discuss the changes.
Second, in a recent edit summary ( this one), you said that the other editors additions were libel. While you may not have done so intentionally, it is important that you never make what could be construed as a legal threat on Wikipedia. I don't think you intended that as a threat, and probably weren't aware of that policy, but even a single additional comment of this nature will almost inevitably result in you being blocked. We consider legal threats to have extremely chilling effects on collaborative editing, and thus they are entirely prohibited. Qwyrxian ( talk) 15:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The user you're referring to has been installing biased edits on the page for months and he has been doing so via multiple accounts. This is not news, of course, as I have had a number of discussions with other editors about the aforementioned user. Please look at the history and the discussion page -- it's all there. Also, this user has repeatedly sent me messages saying that "I am not allowed to edit particular pages." Look at my user page. I am repeatedly threatened by this individual (from his various accounts). The user has been blocked on a number of occasions for posting what is perceived as potentially libelous material. Per Wiki, "contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libellous." The user posted "potentially libellous" material that was "poorly sourced" and I removed it. Also, I do believe that my edits are not an "edit war," as what I have done falls under 3RR exemptions. According to Wiki's 3RR exemptions, "Removal of libelous, biased, unsourced, or poorly sourced contentious material that violates the policy on biographies of living persons (BLP)." While we should not rely solely on this exemption, if you view the history of the page in question, the user you refer to has a history of vandalism and biased edits. For that reason, discussion often falls on deaf ears. Beobjectiveplease ( talk)
I fail to understand what part of the edits are in accurate. Did he not host a fundraiser at 15 CPW ? So whats so wrong here. beobjective doesnt like AOL as a source ? AOL you think is libelous and doesnt fact check items ? Thats the source you claim isnt accurate ? Give me a break. And when 1 speaks of 3RR is not beobjective the one responding to my original edits ? This is a controversial leader and it simply should be reflected as such. Babasalichai ( talk) 01:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Please do not again remove sourced material from AOL and as user Qwyrxian states Second, in a recent edit summary ( this one), you said that the other editors additions were libel. While you may not have done so intentionally, it is important that you never make what could be construed as a legal threat on Wikipedia. I don't think you intended that as a threat, and probably weren't aware of that policy, but even a single additional comment of this nature will almost inevitably result in you being blocked. Be objective and balanced. USer Dianna collaborated and made edits. Babasalichai ( talk) 01:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Does Pinto attend shul on Shabbat ? is that relevant ? He doesnt, right ? AOL is a fact - He isnt representative of Judaism, as represented even by Bracha's line about a phone to Gd, right ? Thats a fact. Your objectivity is biased. Babasalichai ( talk) 22:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Pinto did in fact host a fundraiser - it failed but he did. Include that and I will accept your other change. A more than reasonable compromise. Babasalichai ( talk) 01:33, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Once again will ask that you please discuss changes before making them. Other editors made interim changes and you once again went in and just made them without discussion. Lets use a talk page 1st please. I keep trying to communicate without response. Babasalichai ( talk) 13:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Am trying to communicate and you refuse to dialogue. Babasalichai ( talk) 15:41, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
You are simply lying and have never discusssed these with me - Theres been 1 other user and thats all. And the fact that 2 months you bullied me into accepting a change doesnt mean that your version of history is accurate. Rabbi Pinto's reputation keeps changing and as media continues to emerge so too much this page be changed. Not paying his mortgage is the same issue he had with Obstfeld and is now more relevant. And lastly if we are talking about things which have been accepted, everyone had accepted 15 CPW but you singlehandledly edited it. Babasalichai ( talk) 18:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC) Babasalichai ( talk) 18:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
When more media comes out will you challenge it this week if it talks about underground and raises other questions ? Babasalichai ( talk) 03:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Someone may buy websites like pinto.org and place content there, no ? Babasalichai ( talk) 11:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Why ? if Someone owned the sites and had content there it wouldnt be ok ? Babasalichai ( talk) 12:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
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Amazingly bad behavior on your behalf quite disappointing. When more media comes out and police investigations go public soon on Pinto will you be willing to admit them to wiki ? Babasalichai ( talk) 04:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Quote above from beobjectiveplease shows his honesty and he was caught for being a sockpuppet - keep it in mind: "It is no secret that Baba has been using multiple accounts and I have often discussed edits with those accounts on their user pages, while we have had some conversations on Pinto's discussion board. Baba was even investigated for this and a formal complaint was filed (there wasn't enough evidence, however, to confirm -- although Baba would change between accounts and continue conversations as if he was on one single account)." The person who filed the complaint was beobectiveplease in a different name. Babasalichai ( talk) 04:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
What was the reason to slander others ? What was the reason you lied and were caught ? Sure check my account use... and keep waking up daily and checking newspapers because the stories are coming as are Pinto police investigations and lawsuits. Babasalichai ( talk) 04:14, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
You can email me the reasons you know how to reach me. There was no reason other than your desire to lie but all these things too will be uncovered for the idol worshipper underworld figure Pinto. Babasalichai ( talk) 04:15, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
is the so called violation saying it on this users Page instead of on Pintos page ? I thought it'd be Ok to say it since this person works with Pinto and only exists to edit Pintos account ? Babasalichai ( talk) 10:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
By chance, did you create the account Wallewins ( talk · contribs)? Tiptoety talk 04:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
You seem to be having trouble with the fact that breast cancer awareness involves fear. Let me suggest that you actually go read the source that's cited at Susan G. Komen for the Cure, instead of guessing. The author is quite direct, and it turns out that the word fear is on thirty-six separate pages in the book. You can see the relevant pages at Amazon.com, if you don't want to pick it up from the library. The whole section on breast cancer branding is worth reading, actually (starts on p. 133).
If you happen to know anything about advertising, it shouldn't surprise you: fear and greed are the fundamental market movers. In the instant case, women who are afraid of breast cancer donate far more money to Komen than people who are unafraid of breast cancer. (Their corporate sponsors are motivated by greed, but the individual donors are motivated significantly by fear.) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 07:20, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
This is the longest feature ever written on Pinto, 1 he cooperated with and interviewed for. Why did you delete it ? What part do you think should stay ? Babasalichai ( talk) 15:44, 17 March 2011 (UTC) Seperately, I assume when the next media comes out shortly of a similar sort you will accept it with 2 sources right ? Babasalichai ( talk) 15:44, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Please stop editing the article about Susan G. Komen for the Cure until you have answered my multiple questions and objections at Talk:Susan G. Komen for the Cure. I'm not posting these long explanations and quotations from reliable sources for the fun of it. You have recently claimed that a sentence followed immediately by an inline citation was somehow "unsourced", and that other sources somehow don't contain the material that they plainly do. Please join me on the talk page and explain how you have come to these conclusions. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 18:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, it now looks as though conduit (virus) has got the chop by Athaenara. I protected it against creation to stop another move happening. A ban has to be a consensus of people here, so I cannot ban myself. Also a block would be inappropriate as this situation is a content dispute and not enough talking about it has taken place yet. I agree that Conduit (publisher network and platform) is not a virus. If is some kind of adware or malware then that statement can only be included with a reliable source, and not by removing everything else in the article. Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 08:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
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