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You can bawl at the creator here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexis Jazz ( talk • contribs) 21:35, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
[[User:Example|Example]]
) but I suppose I could make it customizable anyway. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
02:46, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Not sure why but your script seems to only work on this page. 1989 ( talk) 03:09, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
== Hmmm... ==
1989 (
talk)
19:42, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
@ Alexis Jazz: Any chance this script could be compatible with User:Kephir/gadgets/unclutter? If you go on any other page besides this, your script will not work. 1989 ( talk) 03:42, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
var LoadUnclutter = setInterval(function () { clearInterval(LoadUnclutter); importStylesheet('User:Kephir/gadgets/unclutter.css'); importScript('User:Kephir/gadgets/unclutter.js'); }, 500);
Btw
Kephir: I got a notification of some unreachable code after a return statement, probably nothing major. It also doesn't seem to do everything it's advertised to be capable of (anymore?): the {{
Calm}} notice was still visible when I tried it on
Talk:Roald Dahl and
Talk:Austrian School. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
12:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
mw.loader.load('//en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Bawl.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
to
m:Special:MyPage/global.js to load Bawl globally. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
15:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
var Delayed = setInterval(function () { clearInterval(Delayed); window.alert('did I make you wait?') }, 2000);
from the browser console or insert it into the <script> section in
https://www.w3schools.com/js/tryit.asp?filename=tryjs_regexp_m and run it. The actual fix in Bawl (so you won't need to delay unclutter) will be different and I'll go look at that now. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
16:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
@ Alexis Jazz: Do you think this script will support edit notices? 1989 ( talk) 05:33, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Do you have the script disabled for the mainspace? It's not working on pages like this. 1989 ( talk) 04:17, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
For some odd reason, this script prevents Wikiplus from working properly. When clicking 'QuickEdit', a window is supposed to popup. Any ideas? 1989 ( talk) 14:21, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Your script seems to be formatting edit summary section links with a manual wikilink rather than using the /* */
syntax used by MediaWiki, which causes your edits to look odd in the history (blue section links instead of grey). It's also leaving you with fewer characters available for your summary. While I don't use your script and don't intend to, I'd appreciate it if you'd fix this so article histories don't have odd blue section links.
Anomie
⚔
21:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Donald Trung and 1989: if you are missing some buttons (or more accurately: they don't show until you press a speech balloon, and only for the relevant section when you do that): this is the result of the new loader which I dubbed "fauxLoader". It's much faster (mostly useful on battery-powered devices and slow CPUs) and more improvements (that will add buttons back as well) will come, but if you hate it you can switch back to "Full link loader" in the "Links" tab in the settings. There's also another loader there that I added which I dubbed "NinjaLoader": you'll see no icons until you press a signature timestamp or section header. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 18:59, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Error occured at: 17/03/2022, 13:17:27 UTC
My settings: "Global"
Additional information: Username/timestamp combination not found. I think it might be because the other user in question had a diacritical mark in their name, though I will continue testing this. Not really handy for people blocked at the English-language Wikipedia to have this form here, maybe it could be handy at the MediaWiki Wiki.
Help me!! Donald Trung ( talk) 13:18, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Yes, I was right, a Chinese character name on a Japanese-language post at the Commonswiki's help desk was converted into User:飯山橋 (written as [[User:飯山橋|]],), and I got the "awww, shit" message again, the current iteration of the script has issues with characters that aren't seen as standard in the English writing system. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 13:26, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
its my comments. -- Donald Trung (talk) 20:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
What I find most interesting is how Bawl doesn't add spaces but "br" brackets to the code. Trouwens, als ik iets in de Nederlandstalige Wikiwoordenboek meld moet ik het dan in het Nederlands melden of in 't Engels?
Too bad that you haven't been able to fix the permalinking as I think that that would be a killer feature, but how would that work with archived discussions with a different page history? -- ▮▮▮
Weird, I couldn't publish this. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 20:06, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Fuck, please tell me that those lines are not emoji's. --
Also couldn't publish this, wait a minute... -- Donald Trung ( talk) 20:08, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Yeah, I can't reply to myself, it loads the editor but then it crashes upon publication. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 20:08, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Somehow Bawl causes the last space to disappear when typing and that is extremely annoying. I managed to find out a work around by typing the last dot first but this just needs to be fixed. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 02:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
By the way, the add-section link that appear beside every section header open header opens a form after the category bar. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:58, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Error occured at: 27/03/2022, 22:04:40 (UTC)
My settings:
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Additional information: Just a side note that JSON should be wrapped in syntaxhighlight tags for human readability. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 22:06, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
User:Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Live preview doesn't work and the page doesn't reload after commenting. Also, there is no "Do not press this button
" button; I was at
WP:VPT and here's my preferences stored in Bawl.customizedSettings
, a place that I only managed to find out after a while reading Bawl's source code.
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}
It's a shame that despite having Bawl on I even have to use Discussion Tools' inline form feature to add this new section. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 14:40, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Bawl! (early access). I would also like to have an ajax, inline or popup, dialog. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:58, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to...
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Error occured at: 17:23:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
My settings:
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Bawl hides some timestamps, as seen in:
<p>
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<a href="/wiki/User:4nn1l2" title="" data-rw-username="4nn1l2">4nn1l2</a>
" ("
<a href="/wiki/User_talk:4nn1l2" title="" data-rw-username="4nn1l2">talk</a>
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") 02:25, 26 March 2022 (UTC)"
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</a>
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<a class="BawlReplyLink" onclick="Bawl.openReplyForm(Bawl.replyLinkParamsEdit[291])">
<span title="Change comment" class="BawlReplyLink BawlSVGEditIcon BawlSVG"></span>
</a>
</span>
</span>
<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons BawlNoDisplay">
<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket"></span>
<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="[truncated]" href="">reply</a>
<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket"></span>
</span>
<span data-mw-comment-end="c-4nn1l2-2022-03-26T02:25:00.000Z-Edit_filter_helper_privilege_for_4nn1l2"></span>
</p>
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 17:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
I've just tried this out and I have a few thoughts:
Thanks for all your work on this! Qwerfjkl talk 21:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
... and it just broke when I tried to edit it. Qwerfjkl talk 21:29, 7 April 2022 (UTC) Pinging @ Alexis Jazz. Qwerfjkl talk 08:21, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
/(foo)/test$1test/g
seems to turn "foo" into "testfootest" for me.(\b/\w+)\.(\w+\b)/$1 $2/g
; when saving it to common.js, it substituted out the $1 (twice).
Qwerfjkl
talk
12:20, 8 April 2022 (UTC)mw.user.options.set()
could work? ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
09:27, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
document.designMode = 'on'
. You can type anywhere in the page now (yeah yeah, great for pranks too), change it to what you mean and take a screenshot. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
16:28, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to subscribe to a scetion.
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Error occured at: 08/04/2022, 12:10:17 UTC
My settings:
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at Object.Bawl.stalkSubscribe (<anonymous>:3163:34) at HTMLAnchorElement.onclick (User_talk:Jimbo_Wales:1:6)
Help me!! Qwerfjkl talk 12:13, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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Savinging$3 preferences to account preferences doesn't seem to work for me. The problem has been around for a while. Qwerfjkl talk 06:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
mw.user.options.get('userjs-Bawl')
? Does it return anything? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
17:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Error occured at: 21/04/2022, 08:30:44 UTC
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Additional information: I'm pretty sure that I replied to the last section, not the first: reply, .
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 08:35, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
.replace(/ /,'_')
and .replace(/_/,' ')
in the source are missing the global flag.
Nardog (
talk)
08:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
<span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&section=20&veaction=editsource" title="Edit section: Template R to diacritic" class="quickedit-target">edit source</a><span class="quickedit-section"> | </span><a class="quickedit-section quickedit-editlink">quick edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket"></span><span id="bawlLink-heading-Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)Template_R_to_diacritic" class="BawlLinks"><a class="BawlReplyLink" onclick="Bawl.openReplyForm(Bawl.replyLinkParams[1213])"><span title="Add section" class="BawlReplyLink BawlSVGNewSectionIcon BawlSVG"></span></a><span><a class="BawlReplyLink" onclick="Bawl.openReplyForm(Bawl.replyLinkParamsHeadingEdit[1213])"><span title="Edit section" class="BawlReplyLink BawlSVGEditIcon BawlSVG"></span></a></span></span></span>
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
Replylinkparams:
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Error occured at: 27/04/2022, 12:00:06 UTC
My settings:
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Skin: Legacy Vector
Additional information: Unexpected difference between the number of section titles and section edit links.
Clicking the reply button cause error message to appear at the first heading and auto-scrolling to it. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 12:03, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Bawl.fyi
intended?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
07:51, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
User:Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: I can no longer use Bawl due to an illegal (global) return statement which you added in this edit. At first, I thought the problem were temporary, but it turns out that I should always stick to my console when dealing with Bawl. Out of curiosity, how can you still use Bawl? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Error occured at: 03/05/2022, 19:28:01 UTC
My settings:
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Additional information: Could not open form.
Qwerfjkl talk 19:28, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Error occured at: 07/05/2022, 09:26:27 UTC
My settings:
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What exactly is the undefined
thing
added automatically right before my signature?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
09:29, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
Replylinkparams:
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Error occured at: 02/05/2022, 19:52:36 UTC
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Skin: vector-2022
Additional information: Error triggered by user.
This is the same as the Bawl-not-loading issue I mentioned above, but not caused by ninjaLoader (probably). Qwerfjkl talk 19:54, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
Replylinkparams:
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Page loaded at: 03/05/2022, 06:04:48
Error occured at: 03/05/2022, 06:05:32 UTC
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Qwerfjkl talk 06:06, 3 May 2022 (UTC) ―
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don't work. ―
Qwerfjkl
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16:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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Additional information: Bawl is preventing QuickEdit from opening its edit form. This is likely caused by a recent change. While I am aware of Bawl's section editing feature, I'm afraid it has no mark-as-minor checkbox and I'm just used with QE. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 17:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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fork with change applied) appears to fix it. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
20:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
User:Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Line 3886, trying to read properties of undefined (reading replace). Also, Bawl isn't loading (at all). These issues may be related. Qwerfjkl talk 06:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 06:12, 19 May 2022 (UTC) ―
User:Alexis Jazz, there are a few things that have been bugging me (but not so much that I mentioned/complained about them before):
(the last two have been cleaned by Bawl, but were external links). ― Qwerfjkl talk 19:35, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
/([^~;\)\>])$/$1 ― /
to append a dash to my comment, but Bawl adds a space after the end of the comment, before the signature, which breaks the non-breaking space (see the above comment). ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
06:12, 4 May 2022 (UTC)I added an href to the section permalink icon, right click (or equivalent on touchscreen devices) and "copy link" to get it. This gives you a non-permalink for the section, I don't seem to have an equivalent to right click. It'd be nice if a normal (full) wikilink was there as well - it helps with my CfD work, and could be useful elsewhere. The 'insert link' form works fine with [ [, but with { { input: 'tq', 'Some text', it produces
{{Template:tqSome text}}
, which isn't quite right. It also inserts the link/template at the end of the comment, not where the [ [ / { { was typed. These improvements cover all my feature requests (save
4., perhaps), so I suppose I'll have to think of some more. Happy editing! ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
21:07, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
I don't seem to have an equivalent to right clickOn my phone I can press and hold links (the permalink icon is a link element) to get a menu after 2 seconds or so that includes a "copy link" option. Does this not work on Amazon devices? I must admit, it has bothered me for some time that Twinkle doesn't rewrite URLs. Bawl does, but Bawl can't file an XfD. What if Bawl could file XfDs? Hmm, no, that's a crap idea, not gonna happen. What if Twinkle could rewrite URLs? YES! In the settings for Bawl, look for "CSS selector for other elements to rewrite URLs for" and insert
#wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea
. This will make Bawl rewrite URLs in the 2010 Wikitext editor edit summary and Twinkle. Cat-a-lot uses a window.prompt (whyyy??) so unfortunately this doesn't work there, I need to fix Cat-a-lot for that. You weren't supposed to "name" templates, but I figured I might as well interpret a "name" for templates, if given, as an argument so that's done now. The "Template:" was supposed to be filtered, that should work again too. It should also no longer insert at the end. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
14:00, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Does this not work on Amazon devices?Apparently not. ― Qwerfjkl talk 16:54, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
#wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea
so it should work on edit summaries on the 2010 wikitext editor and Twinkle textarea. Maybe you want #wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea,.morebits-dialog input,.ve-ui-mwSaveDialog-summary textarea
to also cover single line Twinkle input fields (just fyi, Twinkle has so many options I'm not sure this covers everything) and New wikitext mode (2017 source editor) as well. Step by step: open
[4]. (if you use the 2017 source editor make sure .ve-ui-mwSaveDialog-summary textarea is included in your CSS selector) Get to the summary field and paste
[5] into it. (just the URL, without the brackets) Now click anywhere outside the summary field. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
23:29, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
VM1047:3737 Uncaught TypeError: Bawl.currentSubs.replace is not a function at Object.Bawl.stalkUnsubscribe (<anonymous>:3737:75) at HTMLAnchorElement.onclick (Bawl:1:6)
Congratulations on Bawl's 6000th line of codes! How you managed to remember every aspect of it, find/fix bugs and then add a lot of new features before re-looping the process remains a secret to me. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Special:Diff/1087763538. Qwerfjkl talk 16:34, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Having tried some more, it worked okay, but it'd be nice if you could keep the above in mind. ― Qwerfjkl talk 21:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Have you made some change to Cat-a-lot somehow, as it seems to have an edit summary field now (not prompt()
). This would be fine, but as I use mobile, the pop-up keyboard makes it impossible to type onto the Cat-a-lot input box, which is attached to the bottom of the screen (especially pasting is impossible)
I made an adjustment and requested the change to be merged which happened on 15 May.. This was done so the CSS selector for URL rewriting could actually target cat-a-lot's summary as a prompt() can't be targeted. (oh, btw, you will soon be able to enter a CSS selector for RegExTypoFix and your own regular expressions as well!) I'd imagine that if you were able to hit the checkbox you should be able to hit the text input. Btw, I don't think cat-a-lot was really designed with mobile in mind, though on a medium-sized tablet in landscape mode it would probably be okay. I don't have an Amazon device and from what I understand they behave different from other devices in some cases, so when that happens please just report it to we can have a look. If you experience difficulties targeting elements at the bottom of your screen, would it help if you could have cat-a-lot in a top corner instead of a bottom corner? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
22:28, 16 May 2022 (UTC)#cat_a_lot {bottom:unset;top:0;}
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Alexis Jazz, one of us messed up (probably me)! I clicked the speech bubble and the box appeared OK. I typed some text and hit Submit. The Submit button greyed out and started gently flashing but the edit didn't happen. I've tried resetting my preferences and reinstalling: same problem. I use Firefox 100.0 (current) on Ubuntu 16.04 (outdated but should work for this). There are no obvious clues in the browser console. I use uMatrix but it's switched off for Wikipedia.
I was trying to..
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Certes ( talk) 23:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC) ―
$('#mw-content-text H2')[$('#mw-content-text H2').length-1].innerHTML
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adds a button labeled "Meta" that replaces that link. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
12:00, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
{{int:edit}}
(Edit this page). But "Publish changes" or "Edit this page" made no sense when commenting. And MediaWiki doesn't have a translation for "reply" in its core modules or any extension that would be reasonable to be a dependency for Bawl. So I used {{int:htmlform-submit}}
(Submit) instead. But now I guess confusion arises because "Submit", unlike "Reply", could be used for both actions, but due to history it doesn't. I thought about it and I have to agree, there's no good reason not to simply use htmlform-submit everywhere, so I'll include that change with the next update. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
05:11, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (Or maybe not, but that's pre-filled, so I'll leave it.) When I use Bawl to reply on a page which is permanently on my watchlist, it seems to set it to be temporarily on my watchlist instead. Ideally permanently watched pages would stay that way, and unwatched pages would be temporarily watched, no?
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ezlev ( user/ tlk/ ctrbs) 20:08, 21 May 2022 (UTC) ―
User:Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Bawl no longer loads, giving the error:
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Qwerfjkl talk 19:43, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 14:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
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Awwww shit.should only be added to one element from now on. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 21:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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When clicking the reply bubble near Qwerjfkl's comment at the section right above, the form was prefilled with his signature. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 06:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
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NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
10:12, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Conflicts? — Guarapiranga ☎ 09:25, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
I couldn't find a reply button to your comment after submitting my previous reply. Is that an option?Specifically that, I don't think so. There are some expert settings that can cause some or all speech balloons not to be rendered, but even those won't eat speech balloons that have already been rendered. Can you take a screenshot? It sounds quite odd to me, so this could be the result of a conflicting script/gadget. The feature comparison matrix needs to be updated, parts of it are outdated. And yes, the settings can be quite daunting. Any suggestions for clarification are most welcome. I plan to elevate some more settings to "expert" to make it less daunting. I'll try to improve the description of the settings you mentioned. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 00:54, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
This must be a popular question, but I didn't find an answer for it. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:28, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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(I'm not quite sure what option translates url to wiki; I couldn't turn it off--Could Bawl perhaps not apply it to text within tags like pre
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Guarapiranga
☎
06:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
This one really came out the wrong end.Exactly what appeared where? (screenshot?) Parse-in-place can sometimes glitch. The actual edit is typically fine. A hint: just look where the form opens. That's where your reply will be. If that's the wrong place, report it. (but provide as much detail as possible, preferably reproduction steps)
I hope your 6000 lines of code don't turn out to be a Hydra 😬Flow introduced a new PageContentModel to avoid many issues, which worked and also caused its demise, reply-link has a photo of a "bugs" bunny statue and only works on a few select projects, DiscussionTools has a very restricted feature set and eats resources like there's no tomorrow, and ConvenientDiscussions is CPU-hungry and 670K minified. (for comparison: Bawl is ~250K minified, reply-link probably ~45K minified but nobody knows because it doesn't compile) When it comes to tools for wikitext discussions, it seems you can only go two ways: make something with a limited scope, or build a hydra. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 03:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I noticed Bawl has an option to collapse all non-talk page sections by default and hide ToC. I'm quite a fan of BrandonXLF's FloatingTOC.js; so much so that I forked it (at the time his had some transparency issue, which is fixed on mine--at least for me). That's another (small) feature you might want to consider. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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Guarapiranga
☎
03:21, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
body
. I don't know what option from BrandonXLF's script you are referring to, I read your comment several times but I think there's a word missing. I tried BrandonXLF's script but it's throwing JS errors for me, so I I didn't learn much from that. — Alexis Jazz (
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06:31, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
body
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(or 19px to align with panel text), and scroll to the top of the page, do you not see both the left panel options and the TOC over each other, as if the one on top were transparent?DT uses ctrl/cmd-enter. I, for one, use it a lot. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:50, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
I noticed only comments from Bawl users (who presumably have enabled this option) have a link icon at the end. Would it be possible to add that to all comments (creating anchors as needed)? CD has that, doesn't it?
As an aside to that, I'd suggest a more discreet icon, or perhaps replacing it entirely by linking the timestamp instead, as Evad37 does in his
TimestampDiffs.js (though it links to the diff instead). —
Guarapiranga
☎
06:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, I'd like it if the page didn't reload when you edit a section (and save it), but just showed the updated section, as when you reply (note that any categories etc. would hopefully be updated as well.
Secondly, I don't think it's possible to reply to a bulleted subsection e.g.
=== Subsection (e.g. !vote) ===
* Yes - Foo
* No - Bar
You can only reply to Foo and Bar, not post a !vote, unless I'm missing something. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
09:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
the in-page updateI'm not sure what you're referring to here. Is it possible? Anything is possible. Is it a good idea? Errrr. The indentation on CfD is frankly a bit fucked. Ffs, why is the initial message indented, and why are commenters expected to reply on the same indentation level? I actually patched up Template:XfD relist to resolve a similar XfD problem with relisted discussions. This problem has many sides. Allowing the user to mess with the indentation is not something I want to offer in Bawl by default. It could be done with a module, but I don't want it in the main source, it's asking for trouble. Having some sort of "reply to section" option is also not something I plan to offer. Wikitext isn't standardized and just adding a comment to the bottom is in no way guaranteed to be a desirable result. Adding hax for XfD is also not something I want to do, I try to avoid project-specific hax as much as possible. And since XfD is non-compliant here (to the degree there is such a thing for wikitext), I'm definitely not adding hax to enable that. This leaves only a few options:
/:'''Nominator's rationale:'''/'''Nominator's rationale:'''/g:<<Fix XfD>>
if the page didn't reload when you edit a section (and save it), but just showed the updated section, as when you reply. QuickEdit.js seems to get the new page wikitext, generate a preview of the new page, and overwrite it on the old one (or.something like that). ― Qwerfjkl talk 08:15, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
I'd like it if the page didn't reload when you edit a section (and save it), but just showed the updated section, as when you replyisn't realistically possible due to the reasons I mentioned above. But that's not what QuickEdit does, QuickEdit always gets a parsed version of the whole page. This isn't necessarily much faster than just reloading, but it may feel faster. Some other scripts may get broken by this, that'll be beyond my control. I should probably add a option back in to get the old behavior for that. To get edit buttons for newly posted sections you'll have to change "After posting:" to "Parse comments in place". (default is "Parse comments and new sections in place") — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 08:49, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
I should probably add a option back in to get the old behavior for that.which is also done. (setting "Never re-parse the page, just reload instead") — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 17:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Now I only see the reply icons for comments posted with Bawl, even on mainspace talk pages, Alexis. Not sure what broke it, whether it was on my end or yours.
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— Guarapiranga ☎ 10:26, 28 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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I clicked the full-section-edit pencil of the section right above and the form was prefilled by content of #What does "Bites DiscussionTools" mean in the feature comparison matrix?. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 12:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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— Guarapiranga ☎ 12:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! Or did I? Not sure what I did wrong...
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Bawl didn't work for me till I disabled this gadget which I had previously enabled in my preferences. I understand that the basic functionality can also be had with Bawl by the "Display signature dates in local time", but the Local time gadget also provides more options for formatting dates. Hemantha ( talk) 12:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Qwerfjkl talk 12:21, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
$('.mw-editsection')[1].parentElement.outerHTML
is for you on that page. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
22:07, 30 May 2022 (UTC)E.g., ctrl/cmd-B for bold, ctrl/cmd-I for italics, etc. — Guarapiranga ☎ 00:42, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
**
) rather than wiki syntax ('''
). Is that how you intended it? —
Guarapiranga
☎
00:31, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
<b>
tag. —
Guarapiranga
☎
04:52, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
How about an option (or simply default functionality) that opens the reply box with a quote of the selected text (if any), in addition to the mention? — Guarapiranga ☎ 00:45, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
/\{\{tq\|(([^\}]|\}[^\}])*)\}\}/"$1"/g
seems to work. If you intentionally want to use {{
tq}} you could use {{
Tq}} (capitalized), {{
TQ}} or {{
talk quote inline}}. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
03:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm trying out the reverse section order option--it's quite nifty. There is a little nuisance though (which I'm not sure you want to do anything about): the TOC remains in the original order. — Guarapiranga ☎ 00:48, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
No idea how computationally intensive this would be, but it'd be cool to see a counter of how many people thanked someone for their comment. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:41, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
JSON.parse(window.localStorage.BawlThanks)
, after thanking 500 comments it'll start to develop amnesia. To elaborate, technically it's maybe possible, but the counter would only reflect thanks that were given by Bawl users, there would probably be performance and/or accuracy issues and it would not be trivial to put together. So I don't plan to pursue this. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
04:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 08:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I don't remember seeing that option... — Guarapiranga ☎ 14:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
You really went for the "fully customisable" experience, Alexis; so much so that I've quite often found myself fumbling through all the options to find the one I had seen (Which tab was it on again?). The fact that some of them simply disappear (rather than displayed as unavailable, "greyed out") when a 'parent' option is disabled (even if it's not a requirement, e.g. sticky TOC vs collapsible sections) only adds to the confusion. How about then including a search field for the options menu, do that users can quickly locate the options they need? — Guarapiranga ☎ 15:03, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
This is very low priority... I love the auto-mention, but I'd love it even more if I could customise it. As you may have noticed it, I like addressing people by their first name, when they provide one (whether the 1st word in their username is really their first name is beside the point). So, every time I talk to you,
Alexis, I add Alexis after the pipe in [[User:Alexis Jazz|]]
. It'd be cool if I could customise the mention label with a lil regex (User:([^ ]+)
) to pick up the first name (it's easier to erase it back to the simple pipe trick if I want the full name, than to type it out every time if I don't). —
Guarapiranga
☎
00:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
/\[\[User:([^ ]*)( [^\|]*)\|\]\]/[[User:$1$2|$1]]/g
. Applies on preview and submit. Combine this with /\[\[User:([^ ]*)( [^\|]*)\| \]\]/[[User:$1$2|$1$2]]/g
to enter the whole name by replacing the first name with a space. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
01:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
/\[\[User:([^ ]*)( [^\|]*)\| \]\]/[[User:$1$2|$1]]/g
—
Guarapiranga
☎
04:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)I'm just as happy opening a msg form just to then click the settings icon, but since Bawl has so many features that go beyond the msg box (e.g. collapsible sections, timestamps, etc.), that you may want to consider adding another link somewhere else (More menu, Tools left panel, or even a cog icon next to the New section one). — Guarapiranga ☎ 05:54, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz: During a conversation at Module talk:Excerpt, I noticed that the person who I was talking to who was using Bawl! kept accidentally replacing the previous section with a duplicate of the current section (???). I'm assuming this is the result of Bawl!, as I dont see how else this would've happened. Any ideas as to what the hell happened there? ( Example diff). Aidan9382 ( talk) 10:03, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Alexis Jazz:, Whenever I want to start a new section it just opens up an editing area at the bottom of rather than bringing me to a separate new section editing page. I can see why this is beneficial but there are no ways to circumvent this.
It might be wise that there's an option that if you click twice (2x) on the text balloon above that it will do it in the traditional "New section" way. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 08:30, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Nuff said. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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window.BawlModules.push({'load':'beforeLinkLoad','beforeEdit'],'beforeLinkLoadFunc':function(){Bawl.fixIndent = function(a){return a}},'beforeEditFunc':function(){if(Bawl.commentTextIndent=='**'){Bawl.commentTextIndex='*'}}});
**
and / /
in that code snippet, and again here, which is a.minor bug (I used <!--->
to break up the text).By the way, Bawl changed some ** and / / in that code snippet, and again here, which is a.minor bugUh oh! Wait, what's this?
"2":"/\\/\\//''/g","3":\"/\\*\\*/'''/g"
*hands one trout to Qwerfjkl* (plus a
is there be some way to insert a 'paste' button, or more generally, tie functions to buttons?By "button" do you mean a UI button (like a custom insert) or a keyboard button? Actually I guess for both the answer is "a module". Your module can't work I think. It appears to be based on the SOFIXIT example module above which overwrites Bawl's convertToOneLineCmt function, which is a terrible idea btw. You create an unused "fixIndent" function instead. Before the actual edit takes place, you set commentTextIndex if the indentation consists of two asterisks. I've never heard of commentTextIndex so that wouldn't do anything either. On User:Qwerfjkl/common.js (Diff 1091497381) you tried to perform a .replace on commentTextIndex, but commentTextIndex is undefined so that threw a JS error, halting the script. *hands over another trout* I hope you like fish. :-) — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 01:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis, I found this issue: When typing a msg in the middle of the text, the cursor keeps jumping to the end of it. I reckon it's just after regex.
Also, there's this nuisance that when breaking the text with ↵ Enter to open a new line, the newline keeps getting replaced out (as part of the same regex I reckon). —
Guarapiranga
☎
21:04, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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I was literally writing the previous edit when it didn't allow me to click "publish", really odd.
-- Donald Trung ( talk) 06:53, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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AdrianHObradors ( talk) 23:54, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Since reply preview shows the signature, I was confused as to whether Bawl would erase it. — Guarapiranga ☎ 02:59, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
When I include a table in my reply, Bawl doesn't quite get it, replacing newlines with <br>
, and once I fix it with another editor, if I attempt to edit it with Bawl, it doesn't include the table as part of the reply (even with a Bawl-tagged signature at the end of the comment). —
Guarapiranga
☎
06:27, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
! Row header A !! Cell B !! Cell C
and ! Row header A || Cell B || Cell C
are the exact same thing, acting as if the table cells in the latter are table headers. Bawl disagrees. I'm going to consider that a MediaWiki bug and call it a day. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
10:33, 18 June 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to.. hahaha I got an error again, on... this page! I was answering to you saying " Alexis Jazz, glad to hear! And what can I say, if instead of commenting I get a kitty, that is a win in my book :)". I like the kitty. Don't know if it is the same bug, but I will upload it again, I suppouse you have more control over this page and more test cases are always good
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AdrianHObradors ( talk) 08:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to use Ctrl + Enter to Submit comments, instead of having to click the button. I did a quick search through the settings and didn't find it, so excuse me if it is already there! Thanks Alexis! AdrianHObradors ( talk) 00:53, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: see Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:Village pump (technical); the moving failed, leading to just the section being removed. It might be better to add it to the target first. ― Qwerfjkl talk 19:29, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Bawl beta has got to be the best-kept secret on Wikipedia. I'm so happy I stumbled upon this. I don't remember the last time I installed a new piece of software, and just going through the settings was like Christmas morning: Oh my god, just what I always wanted: reverse section order! And typo fixes? Permalink comments?! And autocollapse?! You can even edit comments after posting them, with diff preview!! Gonna change my wiki-life. Thank you for making this!! Levivich 16:37, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue:
You copied that from QFN without even modifying the id? Not to mention that placing an event listener to swap ids is an absolute stupid solution for this problem. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 01:11, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Bawl incorrectly changes the following wikitext (with HTML entities to stop it breaking:
*<code><source></code> → <code><syntaxhighlight lang=""></code>
*<code></source></code> → <code></syntaxhighlight></code>
*<code><source</code> → <code><syntaxhighlight</code>
(task 10). Can an interface admin run the replacements on the remaining pages, mostly userspace .js and .css pages?
―
Qwerfjkl
talk
22:46, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
{{#tag:syntaxhighlight...}}
appeared in the preview. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
07:16, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
<source>
→ </code>
*<code></source></code> → <code>
<source
→ <syntaxhighlight
(task 10). Can an interface admin run the replacements on the remaining pages, mostly userspace .js and .css pages?<
./(<code><nowiki>)(([^<\n]|<(?!\/nowiki>))*)<(?!\/nowiki><\/code>)(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki><\/code>))*)(<\/nowiki><\/code>)/$1$2<$4$6/g
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue:
The 2010 wikitext editor doesn't work when editing full section. Also, live preview doesn't work when adding new section.
Aside from that, this is definitely a wonderful feature that no other discussion tool have. Updating Bawl using Bawl itself seems easier than ever?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
16:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Here you are. I enabled the editor switching feature and yet nothing happened. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 00:11, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Alexis Jazz: After doing so I'm now seeing two editors at the same time. Is this intended? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: in Special:Diff/1093031478, the input was wikitext but it saved as HTML. Levivich 04:12, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
<br/>
(which works on every project, local templates like {{
break}} are too unpredictable) and bullet points were converted to ul+li tags. Bawl has a rule: one comment, one line. This rule made my life so much easier, being able to rely on any Bawl comment consisting of exactly one line and not having to worry about indentation across multiple lines. I ripped the support for multiline indented comments out of Bawl at an early stage as I knew it would be a nightmare to maintain. When you edit your comment using Bawl, it'll show just the way you entered it. Well, more or less, not all tags are reconstructed atm but generally it will. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
10:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
In
Special:Diff/1093141125, I was replying to a comment that ended in a list (:#
) that already had another reply to it (::
). Bawl started my reply with :##
instead of ::
, and placed my reply above the other reply instead of below it. I'm guessing Bawl didn't recognize that the :: reply was a reply to the :# and not a new comment?
Levivich
20:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
This isn't worth pinging you about, but neither of the two modules I attempted work (oh well). If you have time, could you take a look? Thanks.
if ( typeof window.BawlModules == 'undefined' ) { window.BawlModules=[]; }
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― Qwerfjkl talk 21:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Bawl.UITextInput.focus();
before your paste command. Still doesn't work me but that's a security thing I think. I doubt it would ever be a good idea to give websites access to your clipboard.
w3schools says execCommand is deprecated.Bawl.postCommentParams.text = Bawl.postCommentParams.text.replace(/^\*\*/,'*');
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 13:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Sometimes I have already seen 'new' comments on a page. This only seems to happen on certain pages (e.g. Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)). A possible cause could be done sort of conflict with subscribed sections; I haven't tested this. The bug has been around for a while; it's not new. ― Qwerfjkl talk 15:36, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
randomly appearing in the previous commentwas not posted in the comment. ― Qwerfjkl talk 15:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
window.localStorage.BawlSubs.length
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? When you go over 64K, something gets trashed for the latter. That something should be old, but maybe there's something wrong and something else happens. This also happens when exceeding the maximum page subscriptions. (2) Did you ever reset your subscriptions object? Quite some changes have been made to it. Maybe the problems only appear on VPT because it's probably your oldest subscription and something is missing from it. I added a button to reset only subscriptions. If that's too drastic for you, temporarily disable "Synchronize subscriptions to account preferences" and enter Bawl.removeVPTsubs = JSON.parse(window.localStorage.BawlSubs);
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― Qwerfjkl talk 20:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
'new' commentsabove? If so, I do mean, as you say "the green marking on timestamps" (truth be told, I haven't seen a Bawl notification from subscriptions).
mw.user.options.get('userjs-BawlTackOnEchoGlobal')
? (5) If you notice it happening again, try to estimate from approximately which date comments are marked to get an idea if it might be since some event. Also please get a copy of JSON.stringify(JSON.parse(window.localStorage.BawlSubs)[mw.config.get('wgPageName').replace(/_/g,' ')])
so I can check if the recorded dates make any sense. I'll look into the collapsed item-in-preview issue.— Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
05:11, 23 May 2022 (UTC)window.localStorage.removeItem('BawlSubs');
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Qwerfjkl talk 06:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis: I enabled the Insert link to add a new section option, but it opens the edit source window. When I exit it, it shows the empty edit box for the new section, though.
Also--unrelated or not--I'm now seeing an empty box below the edit box (I wasn't yesterday).
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— Guarapiranga ☎ 03:09, 29 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Hi @ Alexis Jazz!
Cheers! 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 21:07, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 10:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Replacing <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight>
with {{
#tag:syntaxhighlight}} is not really a good idea. See how Bawl messed up my comment:
WP:US/R.
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
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/\n/g
be replaced with \n<indent level>
?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
12:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
<br>
; however, why don't just replace them with itself plus the indent level you already have, then exclude those in <pre>...</pre>
, <nowiki>...</nowiki>
and <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight>
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'\n'
over there, right before For instance? Replace it with
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NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
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however, why don't just replace them with itself plus the indent level you already haveMy new go-to answer: WP:SOFIXIT. You've ordered one Pandora's box so here you have it:
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just replace them with itself plus the indent level you already have? — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 02:15, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
{{ping|DemonDays64}} You can do that with CSS:\n<syntaxhighlight lang="css">\n#pt-userpage {\n display: none;\n}\n</syntaxhighlight>\n...or with JS:\n<syntaxhighlight lang="js">\n$('#pt-userpage').remove();\n</syntaxhighlight>\nYou probably know what to do with these.NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 14:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to reply to a comment.
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Donald Trung ( talk) 17:54, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Liz Read! Talk! 02:41, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Alexis Jazz, currently 'read' comments differ between device, probably because the data isn't saved to the account. It would be great if it could use the earliest unread change on watchlisted pages instead. ― Qwerfjkl talk 16:07, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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would be an easier way to achieve that. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
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[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]]
which always output a link even on your user talk page.
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 06:14, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Additional information: Error triggered by user. Editing the 'See also' section (using the section edit pencil icon) lead to the 'External links' section. Qwerfjkl talk 21:19, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, Loving Bawl—thanks for working on this tool! I have a feature request: I have enabled "[w]arn before leaving the page with an entered comment", which works a little too well. It gives me a warning when I click "submit" after writing a new section using Bawl. I decided that this was a feature request rather than a bug report given that I did technically sign up for warnings when I leave a page with an entered comment, which is in fact happening when I click on submit. Again, thank you for Bawl! House Blaster talk 00:46, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Check the weird thing that happened on this comment! It went a bit crazy and added a lot of ┌─────────┘. Otherwise, still loving it! Thank you! AdrianHObradors ( talk) 09:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly). Hi again Alexis! I sometimes get this error where the comment is posted, but the Bawl is unable to check if it was or not posted. Thankfully it always posts. Thought, though, that you would want the report anyway. Again thank you for everything! :)
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AdrianHObradors ( talk) 08:42, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly). Seems today is not my day Alexis! Another error :(
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AdrianHObradors ( talk) 09:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, hello again! I have two more features I would like to request. Still loving Bawl – its best feature is how quickly you respond to comments here. I have two more requests that I would like to make. First,
SineBot allows users to opt-out of SineBot for a single edit by placing !nosine!
or !nosign!
anywhere in the edit summary. It would be great if Bawl would respond to these as well as the NOSIGN placed at the end of the text. Second, Bawl is once again a little too good at its job. When I reopen a page it loads the text I previously wrote, even if I have already clicked "submit". It would be great if Bawl would forget what you previously wrote once you have clicked "submit". Thank you so much for your hard work!
House
Blaster
talk
02:20, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
!nosine!
/ !nosign!
should work now.Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Thank you for your quick response to that request!
House Blaster talk 21:17, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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House Blaster talk 00:17, 5 August 2022 (UTC); edited 00:24, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Alexis Jazz, I can't help but feel there's a better way to do
this. Would wrap just each line in <nowiki>...</nowiki>
work? ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
20:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
<
or >
in the source can't be nowiki'd. There are a lot of possibilities to consider with this. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
03:29, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: line 2857, invalid regex flags. This breaks Bawl. s Qwerfjkl talk 07:08, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: I replied to a comment using Bawl and something very bad happened. See for yourself. In short, the edit removed text by another user on another section. Super weird. AdrianHObradors ( talk) 11:04, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
<h2>
so the headers don't register as sections in MediaWiki or Bawl. But this can never be relied on anyway, so Bawl now detects this situation and disables section editing altogether. It's considerably slower but can't select the wrong section as it doesn't select any section. It's not much slower for Bawl itself, but the server takes longer to respond and you have to wait for that. But it's better than editing the wrong section. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
18:31, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: You can actually post empty comments, subsections, etc. I'm not sure if that's intended or not but I feel like it shouldn't. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:08, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: You start editing a certain old comment. You press escape and close the text box. You then press whatever Bawl button in a talk page, be that for adding new subsections or replying to an existing comment. You get the old text of the comment you started editing in the text-box and it will keep being there unless you reload the page. Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:15, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this small issue: If you add a new section which happens to be at the bottom of the page, the "Start a new discussion topic" link gets rendered above the newly added section, not at the bottom of the page anymore. This continues until you reload the page. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
From
Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests:For example, in regard to reply 2 different discussions simultaneously maybe we can have a warning/popup of some sort that explains what's going on (something like, you have already a discussion opened).
If you press another speech balloon a ping gets inserted for that user. Otherwise the existing form is scrolled into view.
Explaining is to be avoided as much as possible. It bores users, disrupts flow and requires translation.Maybe it can only be activated if you already have some text in the first discussion; If you don't, it just jumps to the second one immediately.
Technically possible, but why did the user open the first form to begin with? You would close the first form without asking. This would make behavior less consistent: Bawl never closes a form unless you submit or cancel it. If the existing form keeps scrolling into view I expect the user to figure out that to stop this from happening they need to make the first form go away so it can't be scrolled into view anymore.
If you auto-close the first form but only if it's empty, the user will likely perceive this as randomness.Also, again at quick glance, I did some reference fixing to test it out and I noticed I had to write the same edit summary over and over again after every edit. It would be nice if the box could remember it and show some suggestions like the current edit summary box does.
Will be done in the next update. (already have it working)This (the summary box), I assume, can be further fine-tuned to work differently for different reasons, for example for ref-fixing, instead of remembering old summaries, it can provide standard phrases automatically like "Fixed references using Bawl"
These kinds of messages are generally kept in Bawl.wikiMsgsObj. Will be there in the next update.and also mark every edit as a minor one, if so wished, similar to what AWB does.
There's an option to enable a keyboard shortcut (ctrl+shift+enter) to check the edit as minor and submit the form. I'm not entirely comfortable with providing an option to mark edits to references as minor by default as such edits often aren't minor. A module for this purpose could be written though. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
11:13, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to do 4 things:
but it won't autofocus on the opened form
but I suppose that it is a function someone must has asked for in the past
Be able to switch back and forth between adding new (sub)sections/replies or editing existing ones without canceling or saving first if nothing was changed.— Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 21:40, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to reply to my own comment.
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— Guarapiranga ☎ 22:03, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, some more suggestions:
I get your point about 0, 1 and >1
I just wish for a way to easily edit a comment without needing to trace where it ends and locate the pencil icon.
I just see a bell beside every comment
Can a tooltip be added that shows what editor I'm currently on every time I switch?
I was hoping for a standardizing option of the sort Automatically add an hyphen/dash before my signature.
I thought it maybe could be a good idea to only allow 1 signature to happen
Selected text is included as a quote with the q tags. Thank you! I was expecting it to be included inside aExample texttemplate but maybe the current way is better.
Also it doesn't look like it brings any harm so...
If you try to edit any comment whatsoever or try to reply to them, you don't get any warning at all. Maybe you should somehow.
My idea about discussion statuses (resolved/unresolved) was to have them behave similarly to what Mediawiki.org currently uses
But if you think there's no better way...
but the problem is that I would have a hard time utilizing my elevated privileges with 2 accounts which can be useful to quickly correct problems that new users bring
The only strange part is that you can actually get 2 reply text boxes simultaneously like that, one from DT, one from Bawl. Is that "intended"?
The preview button "does nothing" when live preview is activated and that looks strange.
If you type four tildes at the very end (which some users do habitually) it gets filtered.- That's what I meant with my question in the beginning.
It detects and removes my first 4 tildes but then it will keep allowing them indefinitely creating an ever-growing list of signs. Is that an intended outcome? Should it be?The question practically is on the other side compared to the one you just asked: Are there scenarios where multiple signatures in a row are beneficial? If the answer is "probably no", then I suggested that maybe Bawl shouldn't just "filter" the first 4 tildes but filter them all and only allow for 1 signature to exist in the end, to failproof any future accidents whatsoever. The answer to that question may very well be "yes" though, so there's that.
I have lobbied for a change to the default signature.
to failproof any future accidents whatsoever.
People rarely use the @ character in summaries so I highly doubt it would bring any accidents.
together with the participants' names
Anyway, we'll count on Jackie to build this functionality.
Maybe some kind of middle-ground can be found.
Where are the usernames supposed to be sourced from?- I'm not sure exactly as to what you're asking. If the question isn't too tech-sided, the said feature should behave exactly like the current mention feature we currently have for the body field of the message only that it works even on the summary field. Basically just extended that functionality to include the summary field, if that makes sense.
Can the participant names + their corresponding talk pages be wikilinked so it is easier to reach them personally?
18. Too complicated, unclear what exactly is requested.I just meant to basically be able to utilize the same functionality as where you press @ and you get suggested names to mention in the summary field. That's it. Be able to mention people in the summary field like we can do in the body field. I understand if that can't be accomplished for whatever reason.
the same functionality as where you press @
Stats still get rendered on it though
Ninja mode appears to be currently broken, if I'm not misusing it. I can't collapse any section while on it.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:43, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Also the link textbox, similar to the move one, only understands about local names, even though it can act nicely on both.
I have 4 buttons with black text on a grey background
The arrow and its surrounding highlight. They got bigger than they already were, no?
the suggestion features on link and move textboxes can understand local namespace names but can't understand universal English ones
Also, only now I notice that the settings' behavior is still not consistent on canceling and saving them in regard to autofocus.
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 13:59, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: When doubleclick-editing was introduced it made the overall interaction a bit hard in some instances (when multiple options are enabled).
To keep in mind: When icon metamorphoses gets implemented, corresponding tooltips should preferably change accordingly too. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:53, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Things go weird tooltip-wise when the section link icon is clicked
copy/cancel link/permalink buttonshave a title+aria-label now as they don't have a text label. The filter setting text input has a title+aria-label now as normally its position would partially communicate its function which wouldn't be as clear to a screen reader user.
Can we remove the padding around?No, the button blends into the text if you do that. That could be resolved with progressive+primary flags so the button becomes blue, but another issue is that it could be mistaken for being part of some other unrelated form.
but in the wikiworld documentation usually comes long after a feature has been introduced so take your time on that.
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Bawl fires up when protecting/moving/deleting pages, the pages that follow after those actions have been completed and special pages. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 17:32, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
It even fires up in old revs and while comparing diffs, even though I haven't activated THAT option of Bawl.
Strangely enough, it doesn't fire up in doc pages when transcluded on templates/modules.
And yes, I was referring to the Doc's module behavior in that.
{{Generic image names|protected}}
in the "special" (-1) namespace and
w:sq:Stampa:Generic image names was deleted in 2020.Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) If I try to move a section to a non-existing page without ticking the page creation tickbox I get this error. A bit rough, no?
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: The 'prepend an dash' needs a non-breaking space after it, to prevent it being left on a line (see User talk:Qwerfjkl#Test on a low width screen). — Qwerfjkl talk 09:23, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) Extra blue bubble speech at the bottom of the page, just above the "Create new section" link.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 02:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Bawl doesn't interact well with a certain type of inputbox. Check here, try putting a title and pressing the button; The title you put doesn't get saved. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 16:08, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
text.trim().match(/( |<\/([Pp]re|PRE|[Ss]yntax[Hh]igh[Ll]ight|SYNTAXHIGHLIGHT)>|\}\})$/) || text.match(/\n$/)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I added a subsection to an existing one. Then I hit the pencil icon to the main section to edit it and remove that added subsection. Before saving, I clicked "show changes". In the changes there were many things I didn't actually do, some links were changed and possibly broken and the changes didn't show the number of characters changed. This is the result to that edit, now reverted and fixed.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
$('.BawlDiffPlus,BawlDiffPlusBig,BawlDiffMin,BawlDiffMinBig')
? Does the element even exist? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
09:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Can/Should the thing be explained a bit better
be made to work even with "my type" of inserts?
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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House Blaster talk 21:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: When editing comments, we get a non-breaking space entity ( ) typed after the dash. It most likely shouldn't be there. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 13:21, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
This is a nice to have: I'm having a bit of trouble writing the regex'es in Bawl's config (bc perhaps the syntax is not exactly the same as WM's regex). Could the regex fields auto-escape the characters that it needs escaping when pasting text there? (Not sure you can differentiate pasting from typing though.) — Guarapiranga ☎ 01:26, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:43, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Sometimes they remember your past valid entry
The problem is that links don't get added in edit forms somehow, only on reply forms.
They work on comments, they don't work on sections and the full page.
Should the link form be allowed to add the same link multiple times in the same edit?
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:25, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
/[^]+//:<<AUTOPOSTblank>>
do if added as a comment? Does it really do what it says it does?Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Click on any of the 3 blue buttons on this page while on ninja mode (let's say on the bug report one). When the form opens, scroll below. You'll see your ol' fren' Bawl there. It shouldn't be there. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 00:39, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:43, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
The timestamps all appear doubled to me.Not to me. Must be some particular combination of settings, but as I don't know what you mean by "doubled" I can't effectively investigate because I don't know what I'm looking for.
"outdated" look which doesn't blend in well with the rest of the page elements and they may be confusing when both activated
instead of the square, we can use a down pointing arrow shape of some sort
The color maybe can be the usual OO.ui.ButtonWidget gray one, similar to what the floating ToC also gets. This can ensure better blend in.
3D arrows with shadows that curved on the sidebar
preferably animated
The bracket always gets highlighted and then the three icons on the side get highlighted after a very short pause and then the whole highlighting fades.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
It's far too lighter compared with the other 3 icons.
It's a very minor thing though.
That's an optical illusion because it's thinner, but it's darker now.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'm actually surprised by how good the wikilink conversion is with Bawl. I was playing around with it and I didn't think it would allow for pipe-renaming but it did! There is one thing that it doesn't allow currently though that I think it should: Brackets. Sometimes we want to enter a link enclosed in brackets (link) for lexicographical reasons. If you do that currently it stops the conversion.
Also the pipe-rename process is not really clear as the link on the text form remains as a URL, only the live preview (for those that have activated it) shows the change happening. I believe the whole process, as it currently is, is only accessible by those who know what they're doing and it feels more as an Easter egg. Not sure what can be done about that though. I thought about having the conversion happen in the text form itself (if that is possible) but then I thought that maybe that could be too aggressive as there may be occasions when you want the URL instead of the wikilink so I'm not sure. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 21:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Sometimes we want to enter a link enclosed in brackets (link) for lexicographical reasons. If you do that currently it stops the conversion.
[ and ]
or a template that inserts those. There's little point anyway, square brackets are disallowed in page titles. (I suppose they could happen in anchors, but really?)Also the pipe-rename process is not really clear as the link on the text form remains as a URL, only the live preview (for those that have activated it) shows the change happening.
I believe the whole process, as it currently is, is only accessible by those who know what they're doing
Also, it's unclear what exactly you're trying to do.
As for the pipe rename... How exactly would people know that entering a pipe beside a URL would serve to rename it?
/info/en/?search=WP:Sandbox|test
it rewrites to
test. This is not a feature, I didn't realize this was possible. It's probably not naming the link, it's just accepting the pipe as part of the title. I could fix that, but should I? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
17:58, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
But maybe we can make it literally name the link instead of appending the pipe and make it do that in a more expected way.
Unable to think of a practical way to achieve that though.
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) Ninja mode on, the kitty won't let us report any bugs or issues in here.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Show_Me_Love_(t.A.T.u._song)&action=edit → Show Me Love (t.A.T.u._song)&action=edit — Qwerfjkl talk 10:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: This page, ninja mode=on, DT=active, click on 1 of 3 top blue buttons. You get live preview on and on it you get a subscribe button leaking from DT which does nothing. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:26, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Maybe the tilde?
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: The past summaries' dropdown menu never expires and in doing so it forever blocks the icons below. The only way to remove it currently is by using Esc. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 21:08, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, the link form doesn't know how to differentiate between brackets typed in different text forms. Its behavior is still too aggressive. If you type 1 or 2 brackets in the body form, the first one to be typed in the summary/subject form will trigger the activation of the link form. Its activation should be triggered by 2 brackets per form, not 2 brackets in total. Also, if you type them very slowly you should be able to escape the link form activation, in a similar way how clicking something slowly doesn't count as a doubleclick. Currently you can type them with 1 hour of resting in-between and the link form will still get activated. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 23:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
the link form doesn't know how to differentiate between brackets typed in different text forms
Also, if you type them very slowly you should be able to escape the link form activation,
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) Can you open a reply form to such a comment and trigger the bug reporter?
I think I did what you asked for here.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 23:16, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
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talk or ping me)
16:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 14:44, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I couldn't post my comment no matter how much I retried. The "Send" button just stays forever gray and pulsating.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 20:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I couldn't post my comment. Tried twice.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
On 2010 editor, if syntax highlighting is on, the mention and link characters don't trigger the form openings. Quote-dragging doesn't work either.
The link and signature icons on it have their own workflows as well, not related to Bawl, but maybe that's not a bad thing.
The mention character doesn't trigger the mention form if used on a section's title form. I believe that's not a bad thing either. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 20:52, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
On 2010 editor, if syntax highlighting is on, the mention and link characters don't trigger the form openings. Quote-dragging doesn't work either.
The link and signature icons on it have their own workflows as well, not related to Bawl, but maybe that's not a bad thing.
The mention character doesn't trigger the mention form if used on a section's title form. I believe that's not a bad thing either.
I won't meddle with the 2010 wikitext editor UI.
syntax highlighting in VL?
you'll notice a strange shadow on its outline at the top right.
I don't see anything?
I'm confused: Why is that an oxymoron?
Check the photo.
I mean, comparing it with VE
Finally understood what's going on. It's the speech bubble in the background.
...backgrounds should work with CodeMirror now.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
If text is typed on the link/regex/move/filter form, Esc should act as a clear button first before working on the forms.
They are currently closed in a reasonably sensible fixed order.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Given that you can already create and edit, it's only a matter of time until someone asks "to complete the cycle" and requests deletion capabilities.
Alexis, may we have wikicoded links in addition to URLs when tapping the link icon to copy a section or comment link? I know your solution for this is to regex it out in Bawl, but sometimes we need the wikicode for some other input (and it's a pain to decode the hex uri). — Guarapiranga ☎ 05:30, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
mw.Uri
library?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
22:08, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
User:Guarapiranga, you pinged me in the summary of
Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not (Diff ~1103993080).
If
tried to reproduce it but couldn't. There was a bug recently that would have caused exactly this behavior. That was fixed in
User:Alexis Jazz/Bawl-test.js (Diff 1103048197) from 8 August though. Maybe you had left the page open for a while or were using an older version of Bawl from your browser cache, is that possible? Can you still reproduce the issue? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
06:12, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
they should act the same as the checkboxes for the editors work
Can the moving functionality be utilized to move to specific sections in specific pages for example using something like: Wikipedia:ExampleName#SpecificSection or any kind of more complex anchor?
If that is possible, can we use that functionality for quick archiving by providing a certain URL in the settings as our archive page and have a button that quickly archives a section in that page with a predefined summary? - Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:37, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Can the moving functionality be utilized to move to specific sections in specific pages for example using something like: Wikipedia:ExampleName#SpecificSection or any kind of more complex anchor?
If that is possible, can we use that functionality for quick archiving by providing a certain URL in the settings as our archive page and have a button that quickly archives a section in that page with a predefined summary?
What it is intuitive, for users who have activated it, is pressing the red Dry Run button
A kind of mechanism whatsoever should be used to redirect the attention to the blue "Send" button above when you're ready to move the section.
Nobody knows when you've finished choosing a title.
— Qwerfjkl talk 18:52, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
I thought that the section got enveloped in archiving tags where it was.
Is that normal?
You can't use it when editing parts (you removed that lately as you said but I don't remember why)
and you can't archive full sections that have subsections in it as far as I understand.
I believe the text form should freeze/turn grey if that tick is active to indicate that any text added will get discarded
I also always get a popup asking me "Are you sure?"
I have yet to create the said templates at the moment of typing this comment so the behavior can be different with them.
You mean when editing the full section?
The subsections also go into the archive block.
You're mistaken.
Even when editing individual comments.
They don't for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Am I mistaken in my general belief or in the fact that any text added will be get discarded? Because the later is true for me.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
and date it's not in the local language;I don't understand.
The date of comments (in the timestamps of signatures) when using DT is localized.
The same date when Bawl is active is not localized anymore.
I have the option "Display signature dates in local time" ticked but still...
We're basically talking about the names of months and days and the timezone.
I'm also failing to get the live preview working anywhere beside new comments being added.
No it isn't. [1] doesn't show Spanish month names.
es
it included de
. I again get the Albanian version. What am I supposed to be looking for exactly?Let me guess: you have an English operating system/browser. If that's right, it's perfectly localized.
I think it was accidentally working when editing a full page recently.
I get the Albanian version on your link.
Shouldn't it localize the signature according to our language preferences in our wiki accounts?
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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Additionally, I have two feature requests:
As always, thank you so much for this tool!! If you ever need any help with testing (for Bawl or otherwise), please let me know—I feel it is the least I can do for you as thanks. Best, House Blaster talk 01:10, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
I have the "take over URLs containing section=new" option enabled
With "hide links within elements with the "archived" or "boilerplate" class", the () from the reply and thank buttons are still present, even though the text inside them is gone.
Further to the above point, it might be a nice toggleable setting to separate the option to hide the reply button from the option to hide the thanks button
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Ninja mode on, Live preview on. Click the "Report a bug button" on this page. Watch what happens. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:49, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Additional information: API: "⧼abusefilter-warning-DS⧽" I recently decided that I would become formally aware of AP2, and so I placed a {{ DS/aware}} on my UTP (it still works in a comment, apparently). I then decided to test the AbuseFilter warning, and tried to warn myself by placing {{DS/alert|AP}} on my UTP. Then Bawl let me place the alert. Would it be possible to have a popup (as if it were an editnotice) instead? Thanks! House Blaster talk 03:30, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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House Blaster talk 17:22, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: If I edit a section in the native way here and I save the edit, the page reloads on its top (with ninja mode). It should instead reload with the section edited autofocused. That's the normal behavior everywhere else when using the edit section native button. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:18, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I was trying to post a reply. The form froze when I hit the button. I reloaded to try again. The message was already saved as a draft. I clicked the button and the kitty leaped on me.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 14:46, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I have no idea what's going to be honest...
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 23:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Maybe by double-clicking it.
why I'm trying to provide an "extreme environment" for testing, by basically putting everything on and hitting every button in all the possible sequences and scenarios I can think of.
there won't be a lot new ones introduced for a while and the rhythm will be manageable
would make life easier for a lot of people
you see that in fact you were in the Matrix and they were uncollapsed all along
$('body').on('click',function(event){console.log(event.target);event.target.scrollIntoView({behavior:'smooth'})});
Alexis Jazz, since when does Bawl use HTML tags instead of the classical wikimarkup for formatting? This may be considered "source pollution" by intermediate users and some bot operators. I was trying to edit the list in the last bug report I made here and I was surprised to see it consisted of ol
and li
tags instead of the usual hashtags. I only discovered this after the edit function malfunctioned and refused to format the last item as part of the list. No matter how much I tried with hashtags it wouldn't become part of the list. When I checked its source I saw that the code had become extra polluted incorporating both markups simultaneously and given that the third item somehow had ended up outside the ol
tag, it stayed on its own line with an extra hashtag that did nothing. I thought this was an error but apparently there are other discussions in this page as well which have similar markups. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
01:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to select something from the title/body/summary field, click the link icon and convert it into a wikilink. Extra care for categories. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 20:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
[[BAWLCRT]]:<<Wikilink>>
.I was now surprised to learn that the formatting icons didn't already behave like that.
selecting text and pressing the link icon now results in the selected text becoming(part of)the link name.
Can't fix as I don't know how to get selection range info from CodeMirror.
Alexis Jazz, some problems with subscriptions:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:43, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: The 3 top buttons on this page change dimensions when switching ninja mode on and off. If any of them is pressed while ninja mode is off, some inconsistencies will be present in the form that issues. There is no mention button and if you click the link icon, the issuing link form will touch the three buttons on the right side (it normally doesn't). You also don't get a move section but maybe that's normal. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:00, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found these issues:
//
in syntaxhighlight blocks (and presumably nowiki, pre etc.) with <i>...</i>
. Presumably this also affects **
.— Qwerfjkl talk 17:12, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
a = ' //test// ';
b = '**a**'; //test//
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: DT reply link in live preview. Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: the bug report opens on User talk:Alexis Jazz/FTT, using User talk:Alexis Jazz/FTT/preload. — Qwerfjkl talk 16:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Probably should have a warning instead. Also, none of the links work; it's displayed as shown above.
Qwerfjkl talk 14:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
/ [\\*]+ /
on a new line.
MediaWiki talk:Spamprotectiontext#Edit request 10 September 2022- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
...in particular its location which must be available regardless of title length...
It happens only on some pages
and it is not the usual [subscribe] link. It's a blue subscribe link without brackets and with a blue bell on the left side.
The way I was imagining it was for a button/link to be beside the final comment in an open discussion
Try the procedure multiple times.
Alexis Jazz, epic proportions request but I'd like it if Bawl could allow for easier image AND TABLE handling/editing. I avoid tables like the plague but maybe Bawl can change that. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:59, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found these issues:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 00:41, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
mw.user.options.get('nickname')
. If you changed it since you posted the comment in question it won't match. If you use substitution it won't work either.Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to rearrange my templated answers, be those top or bottom, autopost or not. This should happen by drag and dropping them on the edit form and by drag and dropping the edit fields on the Edit header in settings. If one form of drag and drop happens it should be reflected on the other form as well.
Extra: Make empty forms auto-disappear from settings. Maybe allow include-in-the-middle new edit fields in the settings. Maybe allow creating and deleting templated answers from the edit form (without going to the settings). — Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:43, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Can we have per-project templated answers?
Make empty forms auto-disappear from settings.part should be implemented thought as it currently acts more as a bug than a normal feature. If you have 3 templated answers (A, B and C) and you move B below C and save the settings, it will forever stay A,(empty form), C and B. Move them again and the empty forms start accumulating. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:13, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Can it be made so it starts on "full size"?
Alexis Jazz, I want Bawl to stop me from posting an edit which contains lint errors.
Extra: Maybe Bawl can suggest fixing existing lint errors if found in the section/page that is being edited. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 00:37, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is Bawl!'s fault or not, but can you open sections using the "Mobile view"? That is here? -- Donald Trung ( talk) 15:05, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
click on "Read as wiki page"but that actually resolved this issue which is why I couldn't reproduce it. It might work better now. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 18:28, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Lately I've started getting Bawl notifications. I'm still not totally sure how subscriptions and notifications work because I've never been fully informed on how they work generally (why do we have 2 kinds of notifications instead of 1?!) but I'll try to give some thoughts about those nonetheless (which may be chaotic because of my lack of general information).
First of all, the colors. If you have multiple Bawl notifications and hover on one of them, all of them get highlighted and the text turns blue. Why do they all get highlighted? The blue-text highlighting itself isn't consistent with the way other notifications highlighting works which have just a general background highlighting. Also, there is a bright orange color in the text when clicked which again is excessive when compared with the native notifications which have only a general blue outline. And they take longer to turn grey once you press the blue dot on the top right corner to mark them as read. They act consistently in highlighting the 2 links at the bottom but Bawl is missing some blue ink in its symbol, at least for me. Is that because I'm using grayscale icons? I believe the symbol there should be blue, no matter if that mode is active or not.
Secondly, the content. In native notifications you get something like "This user did this thing here." In Bawl notifications you don't get said any information about who actually did the thing. You get 2 links, the user-link and the user-talk-link. In the native notifications you get the user-link and the diff-link. To be honest, can't really say how important any of them is as I've rarely used any of them in my usual workflows regarding notifications but because Bawl doesn't currently mention the user's name in the top of the notification, the user-link currently has great value for them. The time period is the same for both of them but Bawl is also missing an unsubscribe button, which in the native ones you get once you click the three dots.
Finally, their storage and usage. I have no idea what happens with their storage. Sometimes they disappear completely, sometimes they reappear again... When you click them, the correct page loads but nothing gets autofocused. Is it because I have the ninja mode on? Also when viewing them from other projects, for example, viewing EnWiki Bawl notifications from SqWiki, no mentioning of the origin is done.
In all what I've said above I'd personally wish for as much consistency in the look, feel and behavior with the native notifications as possible. Is it already bad enough that we have 2 kinds of notifications natively. Introducing new styling would make that number practically raise to 3, a deed which should only be undertaken if the cost of added benefits far outweighs the confusion the lack of consistency may bring.
I have no idea how thank notifications work with Bawl or how notifications coming from multi-user discussions would look like as I haven't gotten any of them. Or how multi notifications coming from the same source would get bundled. I also am not sure how they interact with email links or DT. I get email notifications for mentions, comments and edits in regard to my watchlist, most likely because I have DT still active "on the background". This is actually good because, for me, 90% of the wikiworkflows start from emails. I get an email notification in my phone, follow the link there and keep following the rabbit whole that issues by laptop if needed. But I have no idea what happens with Bawl notifications during this process, if they are marked as read when I follow the supposedly DT (?) email link to a certain discussion Bawl is also notifying me about. Or if they are marked as read when I interact with the said discussion.
A general note about the user experience affecting notifications can be made here emphasizing the clunkiness that issues by a combination of factors: Currently, as I've touched in another discussion above, generally speaking, Bawl works like a lever-action gun; You do 1 action and you need to reload before you can do another action or you'll most likely start encountering errors. When this is coupled with ninja mode the complexity rises even more as now you'll need to actually break it off first before you can do anything. This hinders speed in general but I believe it also makes working with notifications pretty hard. Maybe even collapsed sections play a part in this. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 23:44, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Is it because I have the ninja mode on?
And they take longer to turn grey once you press the blue dot on the top right corner to mark them as read.
You get 2 links, the user-link and the user-talk-link. In the native notifications you get the user-link and the diff-link.
Also when viewing them from other projects, for example, viewing EnWiki Bawl notifications from SqWiki, no mentioning of the origin is done.
Bawl is also missing an unsubscribe button, which in the native ones you get once you click the three dots.
how thank notifications work with Bawl
Or how multi notifications coming from the same source would get bundled.
I also am not sure how they interact with email links or DT. I get email notifications for mentions, comments and edits in regard to my watchlist, most likely because I have DT still active "on the background". This is actually good because, for me, 90% of the wikiworkflows start from emails.
if they are marked as read when I follow the supposedly DT (?) email link to a certain discussion Bawl is also notifying me about. Or if they are marked as read when I interact with the said discussion.
Some issues:
Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:19, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Some comments on the functions related to the references now that I've had the chance to use them for a while and finally got the quickadd function for them in my homewiki.
|arxiv=
value, Bawl reads that and regex-searches for |arxiv=value
in the reference that it is going to display and highlights it. I'm not sure if there is a way for Bawl to parse the messages though.Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:59, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
If a link is put and it's not allowed to be entered, the whole form is forever blocked until closed.was still true but I've forgotten how to actually insert refs with Factotum. :P
<span>...</span>
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when a parameter is mentioned it's often because it's missing. This is a strong point. Depending on how much we trusted Factotum to help on ref-fix issues, we could argue that in those cases it could maybe add that parameter and wait for a value... But considering you say even fixing current parameters is beyond Factotum, I guess that is unthinkable. This is a shame because as you may remember I started using this script with the hope to do just that but being able to quickly edit references is a great improvement and I'm grateful for that.
we could argue that in those cases it could maybe add that parameter and wait for a value
transcripturl
/ transcript-url
)Do we have any idea why it fails on the autofocusing matter so often though?
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) The quote accident just happened again. I double-clicked to get out of ninja mode. Then I opened the section I wanted to reply to and I double-clicked it. It already had a (this time empty but it varies) quote in it.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
2/3 of the times Factotum will either refuse to load at all or load but you can't use it
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to use emojis. All of them! This is a low priority request of course but it would be nice if traditional combinations like :) -_- <3 (Y) could be automatically converted to their corresponding emoji forms in discussions for easier and more sociable interactions. The way I'm imagining this to go is that there should exist a list somewhere of the said combinations and their corresponding conversions which can be given to Bawl and liberate us once and for all from the currently limited number-wise use of the {{ Smiley}} template. The list can be updated every once in a while and could even include non-emoji text images like the *shrug man*, etc. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:47, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
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descriptions copied from Emoticons (Unicode block) (CC BY-SA 3.0) which is partially based on https://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/emoji/emoji-data.txt ( https://www.unicode.org/license.txt). — Qwerfjkl talk 21:02, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Try typing :-) 2 times in a row anywhere and see what happens.
Alexis Jazz, live preview doesn't work with VL for me apparently.
Also, again not related, but when switching between editors back and forth from VL you'll sometimes get a nonbreaking space character inserted "automatically" but I'm not sure what exactly causes it.
I've been thinking about the name of this project. Originally it was a replacement for
User:Enterprisey/reply-link. It's quite a bit more than that now, so
bawl doesn't quite describe it anymore. In addition, some people misread it as "brawl", a more common word.
My current thinking is to name it "Jack", in reference to
Jack of all trades. Any comment? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
11:48, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
if line height matching is an aim
something should be done for the VL editor
DT reply links are back in the live preview
Even though the circular toggle does nothing for me currently
Assuming the bottom line of the chevron symbolizes the location of the preview box.
but for me it was still unworkable
because why would you make them not aligned in height
DT subscribe-bell-links are back (in previews? - not sure).
What is "unworkable"? When entering a character in the text input, how long does it take to appear?
using the native 2010 wikitext editor, I was hoping to do the tests in the order they were written so given that I failed the first one, I didn't go on with the second. However I tried now. It is still slow but is faster than what I described above (maybe today are both faster though?), it takes around 2-3 seconds in total for the cursor to be ready to type again after typing something. I went ahead and disabled the syntax highlighting and it made a huge difference. The text finally seemed to flow normally and you could edit the page as usually if you so wished. This is kind of a revelation for me as for many years I've just accepted the fact that it is impossible for me to edit any long page fully as a given because of my love for syntax highlighting. Apparently I can just disable that temporarily for an extra speed boost. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:42, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
I am technically unable to try anything in incognito mode at that article as it won't allow me to type anything because of its protection.
FTT.UITextInput.isDisabled()
and FTT.UITextInput.isReadOnly()
on the browser console? Is the source text black or gray? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
18:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Additional information: Hi Alexis! The buttons to disable live preview and put the preview beside text are now overlapping with the settings button. For an example, see this screenshot.
House Blaster talk 17:42, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
However, they now overlap the preview itself, both beside and below.
it would be great if the tabs (Load, Interface, etc.) that have no results were hidden.
it would be great if the tabs (Load, Interface, etc.) that have no results were hidden.
It would be nicer for the overall picture.
Can we have a notice of some kind in this scenario?
Esc-blank the settings filter?
can I vote on this?
...and it would push down images/infoboxes at the top
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: vertical scrolling when scrolling to unread comments has reappeared. — Qwerfjkl talk 08:59, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to change where the buttons to switch to side-by-side and enable/disable live preview in settings. I guess disabling the buttons entirely would also be a valid option, if you do not plan to use the buttons. Thanks! House Blaster talk 17:03, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Factotum doesn't load in Template talk:Edit taxonomy (just that page). — Qwerfjkl talk 20:33, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
mw-editsection
class within a comment (bad idea, please use mw-editsection-like
instead), Factotum choked on it. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
15:45, 17 September 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, this will be the final list of issues related to Factotum after a last general test. Most of the issues mentioned here will be things that have been mentioned in the past.
What is going on?< selected text and pressed speech bubble
Edit always takes precedence over reply- We should clarify this in the relevant settings. Also double clicks don't work on lists.
Try to reproduce issues on [2] in a private/incognito window. Try adjusting settings until you can reproduce an issue. Tell me which setting is the culprit.
relative/actual datewhy
Alexis Jazz,
File:Factotum, English screenshot (2022-02).png might need updating. It looks fairly outdated (I remember you've changed ABC to XYZ, for example). —
Qwerfjkl
talk
20:48, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 14:39, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, two requests:
Also, the DT headers (just bold) appear in the preview. — Qwerfjkl talk 22:05, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Please see this ticket at the Phabricator, AKlapper installed the Ecosia browser and tried re-creating this issue but couldn't get it, I then tried using incognito mode and I didn't have this issue there either. So it's not the browser, it's not the "Advanced mobile mode", and it's not the operating system. The issues I'm experiencing likely happened due to Factotum. I really think that you should probably try to use the "Mobile view" more often, because "mobile editors" live in a completely different universe as "desktop editors". -- Donald Trung ( talk) 18:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Crtl+Alt+P/N gives
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'undefined')
at HTMLDocument.<anonymous> (<anonymous>:848:61)
at HTMLDocument dispatch (load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%7Cjquery.ui&skin=vector-2022&version=r4ndc:364:260)
at elemData handle (load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%7Cjquery.ui&skin=vector-2022&version=r4ndc:360:877) —
Qwerfjkl
talk
14:02, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
?disableftt=1
to the URL) — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
15:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: The diff number is relative, not absolute. You edit an existing post and add 4 characters. You hit the "show changes" button. Your diff gets previewed and a +4 number gets shown below. You don't save but instead remove those 4 added characters and click the same button again. The changes get previewed and this time the number reads -4. It should actually be 0 or nonexistent. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:19, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
So... Go to the article, all sections are opened, click somewhere to break out of ninja mode, all sections are now closed. I just want them to keep being opened.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:40, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello! :)
I just wanted to reinforce what might already be a known fact that you are under no deadline pressure whatsoever to act according to the reports I've made on Bawl. I just saw the potential Bawl had in what it could do after you showed it to me and wanted to help somehow. I've tested everything I could (beside actually using it for some real replying, funny enough) and I provided reports in real time at you. This was just to have them noted somewhere and it doesn't mean I expect any swift answers in any of them, although you've been pretty fast in responding so far. Take your time and use my reports just as potential big to do lists. At the moment of speaking, as I wrote, I've tested everything I could and most likely there won't be a lot more new posts (or any) until I test the actual reply formatting/post creation in action which I believe won't happen for some days. In the meantime, I'll be ready to reply on any comment you may make on those reports.
Thank you and have a good time! - Klein Muçi ( talk) 16:36, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
#BawlMainButtonBar {margin-top:3em}
in
Special:MyPage/common.css.have my answer appear right below it
what happens if I also use the {{ outdent}} template
Do I get notified with emails about discussions I'm subscribed to with Bawl?
wouldn't it be better if the text form would appear
If you're editing something with Bawl and refresh the page, nothing will stop you from doing that.
If you're editing something with Bawl and duplicate the page in a new tab, the form won't auto-open and auto-load your text.
and try to start Bawl-editing each one of them?
I get the whole list of settings, even when what I wrote is an exact match of one of them.
I get no warning prior to refreshing. It just refreshes.
I search for "collap" and I get, again, the whole list of settings.
Uhm... Did there use to be a diff button?
I was trying to see if headers themselves were included in searches or not
I thought the participants were autosuggested first but I could go on and basically get suggestions for the names of all users possible if I wished. That's how DT works. How would I call someone to be part in a discussion if that feature only works for participants?
Selecting the live preview text behaves strangely: It allows you to extend the selection far outside the preview box.
The same problem with selection happens with the "Return to Bawl" autofocus links.
First of all, wikilinks are allowed in summaries so the link-form should be able to add those as well.
its placeholder grey text never reads anything about mentioning or users in general,
you get a dropdown menu precisely where the @ character is located
doesn't it feel a bit redundant having the "Drop-down menu to add user mentions" option?
in completely different places (from the @-form and from the link-form)
Also, italic formatting is broken
When comment editing by doubleclicking, the autofocus feature may be broken as well.
The tooltip you get after you thanked someone needs a capital T;
The tooltip for the contributors still makes use of the word "participants"
The mw.notify about settings and refreshing could serve as a refresh button if clicked;
You selected a word, you slide the word down on the text form and it gets pasted there. Could it be possible that Bawl understands this action as quoting
I believe these are all intended
PS: Can you archive some of the old completed discussions in the /Bawl subpage?
it will forever read "User's name";
and for some time it supported reference adding and preformatting too (I haven't seen that option anymore)
if we include the sharing functions it provides which come from clicking an identic icon
Is there a way to share comment links instead of difflinks?
Its icon currently is
The autofocus bug appears to be pretty random.
But actually nothing happens if you do.
You had logged out, click me to reload this page and get back your settings.
For me, currently, at this message I'm typing, slide-quoting doesn't work.
Also I see no @ icon in your talkpage for some reason which is strange.
Autosuggestion shouldn't suggest your username when doing the first immediate suggestions;
instead you get the full list of users rolling from A. You should get them back;
Bit of an extreme situation, don't you think?
They actually don't be detected at all as text. You can have a comment full of links but you will lose everything without a warning if you press Escape.
The first days I opted in the extra care about timestamps performance was terrible. You typed so slowly and the text was extra delayed when being presented in the live preview feature.
Now there is still some delay between the text and the preview but the delay between in typing is almost gone (even though you can still notice it a bit). I was wondering if whatever you did you could do more of it (LOL).
Would it be possible to have the names of the contributors shown on hover if it's not a long list?
If the comment has a locator (comment made with Bawl), yes.
Done, was broken in every last section and this is currently the last section of this page.
Can't reproduce.
How exactly?
Now it's still missing on sections which have no signatures though
Try adding many links in a comment only through the link form without having pressed any key whatsoever before. Then press escape. They should get removed.
Quote-dragging doesn't work on multilines. I guess that is intentional but I thought I'd say.
The mention and link forms can get activated again (refreshed) even if they're already active or have text in them, if you just press the needed symbols. Is that intentional?
Searched for "wrong" on the filter but the setting never showed up.
I noticed that the tooltip contributors' list doesn't truncate even on +20 names. That's very good news for me but I was wondering if it had any limit whatsoever.
What happens if you activate an edit filter with Bawl? Hard for me to tryout as admins are not affected and I don't have another account.
Make the mention button permanent instead of an "opt-in",
remove the reference reference in it
change the "enter" button that currently says "Add the link" to say something like "Mention/Tag this user"
echo-displaysnippet-title
: New notificationremove the link name field
If it is (or becomes) empty it shows only your signature. Maybe it shouldn't be there at all?
there were some cases where I clicked 2-3 times until I understood what was going on.
On the same subject, should the cancel button you get on the thank-popup be highlighted in red?
Permalink generated for your comment
Yeah, that's what I called a diff link.
Try dragging a text of yours that has a quote, a done template and some words. See if it gets quotified.
Kitty should be reserved for bugs, more or less.
Works for me.
It doesn't for me. It only works on comments the multiple lines of which are uninterrupted (which are just 1 line per se).
As for the links... It's still a permalink.
I was expecting to see a link in the current version in "more dynamic" situations where I click it and I'm still able to continue commenting and replying on the page normally, basically have the comment-link behave as section-link does.
Speaking of that, neither of them closes with Esc. They should.
it will get the message too far in the top and you'll only read its ending basically.
The link you've provided behaves in the strangest way possible and I have no idea what's going on. You click it, you get to the sandbox and then you get back here immediately while the comment gets highlighted.
Apparently all I've ever need for Bawl to go full automatic instead of acting like a lever-action gun was for me to activate "After posting - Reload the page". I was doing that manually nonetheless each time so now it's pretty good.
But why does Never re-parse the page, just reload instead exist if the said option also exists in the dropdown menu?
Also, I get this message: Done! Thank you for using Bawl! It has 2 links in it but so far I haven't been able to click them because it disappears too fast. Where do they lead you?
Finally, why do these options exist:
If adding links takes more than 8 seconds stop adding links
Prevent double hashtag indentation (numbered list inside numbered list)
Recombine adjacent nowiki tags within syntaxhighlight. Neater wikitext, but when editing such a comment you may be greeted by #tag:syntaxhighlight instead of syntaxhighlight or nowiki tags may fail to be filtered out.
All 3 fields of CSS in Editing
many occasions where random words get selected and then put as quotes in the just opened form.
Unless I know exactly what happens there's nothing I can do.
I don't understand, in what scenario would you use this? Isn't this what the permalink icon inserts with an open reply form in the same section?
What is "them"?
Less abstract example ... will correctly redirect to the archive page.
Why did you feel the need to reload the page after posting?
Try loading a page with 1000+ comments...
Opening a form by double click should always prevent the inclusion of a quote and it works for me.
I have not changed anything in it. This is exactly as it appeared after I dragged it from above and it appeared identically on the live preview.
They don't get removed by pressing Esc.
It actually sends me to the archive page but nothing autofocuses.
I do get the logic, I just don't understand what exactly is meant with "links" in this context and what happens if said "links" are not posted after 8 seconds have passed.
I'll try to send you a bug report when that has happened. Maybe it will help?
Which browser do you use?
Are you sure you got redirected to the archive page?
It should work now.
Try to include as many details as possible.
the same phenomenon happened a couple of times again
A funny bug - You can actually drag a part of text from the form you're currently editing back to itself and it will count as a quote. :P I believe that's not intended. Actually... You can drag text from everywhere... Even from other tabs. And it will still render it as a quote.
I believe you shouldn't get the thank option for yourself.
That's what gets you the problems with autofocus because of the text being too high when loaded.
The feature you mention behaves exactly as you'd think it does and I have no problems with it. That's what I wanted. But maybe that feature should appear also when not editing and just clicking the link symbol besides comments (those that are coming from Bawl).
Bawl.userNameUnderscore
and Bawl.replyLinkParamsOpened.origReplyTo
? They should be identical, but I guess somehow for you they're not? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
03:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
To be absolutely clear: you double clicked a comment to open a reply form and the quote appeared. That's what happened?
Bawl doesn't really know where you are dragging from.
I'm not sure what you are describing here.
What do you expect to happen when clicking a link icon?
I can't figure out why you have thank buttons.
Uncollapse section when clicked in ToCdoesn't work in non-talkspace - it should - and comment highlighting after clicking the comment works in ninja mode - it shouldn't. (It should preserve the DT original highlighting behavior if those are active though + the fading one can choose to implement for them by the corresponding Bawl setting (?).) — Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:13, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
I think it might have happened even when just clicking the bubble icon after double clicking to get out of ninja mode.
The page will load and the comment will get autofocused but its text will be too high to be read properly.
Maybe you should get autofocused on the diff part of the page?
I'm suggesting the second option should be present even while not having edit forms opened.
Turns out I don't have them in every comment. I have them only in comments that aren't typed by Bawl.
and comment highlighting after clicking the comment works in ninja mode - it shouldn't.
the big arrow on the top of the page wrongly gets rendered pointing down even though all sections are closed
Selection should get cleared now when double clicking to perform an action.
Maybe you should get autofocused on the diff part of the page?
Should be fixed.
How? That link doesn't work until you post it.
Why not?
It's not done. At least for me nothing has changed.
Unfortunately it isn't.
I'm confused. Why doesn't the anchor link (am I right in calling it like that?) work until you post it?
pressing Esc could get you back to Ninja mode again. This could make moving between modes easier. What do you think?
Only for new links. Without Bawl they focus the diff area, with Bawl it tries to highlight the actual comment.
unloadedfor whatever reasons the user might have. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:28, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
the ninja mode could be used to allow for easier CD/Bawl switching on issues where parity could lack
it is easy to also picture users that wouldn't want the full package just for preference reasons
A certain user decides to use CD to reply to conversations just because it likes its interface but loves to use Bawl to edit articles
The big arrow appears to render correctly now but it doesn't function correctly. If you click it, it changes position horizontally but doesn't do anything. Then if you click it again, it works as intended.
An idea I've been entertaining for a while these days: Settings get introduced in abundance lately. Maybe we can guide users to newly added ones that they haven't seen yet?
already tagged users should be listed at the "bottom" alphabetically while untagged users should be listed alphabetically at the "top" of the list
"Uncollapse section when clicked in ToC" doesn't work in non-talkspace
Where? Can't reproduce.
All eight of them?
Will be fixed in next update.
For example, in this page. Ninja mode on, go on top of the page and click beside the page title to "break it". Click the arrow. It will do nothing beside jiggling a little horizontally. Click it again, it will rotate 45 degrees and start acting like it should.
I have to be on the lookout for everything that changes. New options to try out or new features that are introduced to understand if that is a regression, bug or a feature.
Tried it out but it still has problems for me.
Also, I tried the new function for quickly converting text to wikilinks. Can its function be extended to understand nonwiki links and add only 1 couple of brackets to them instead of two?
It doesn't care at all for the number of lines though
45 degrees? That's impossible, it rotates 90 degrees.
I made some changes, is this still an issue?
My brain was hardwired on 45 ever since you used used it for the heart.
You click it, it jiggles a bit and does nothing and then starts functioning like it should.
Uhm... The linquify function appears currently broken. :/
Also... Should we allow for individual uncollapse/collapse of subsections in different levels?
The heart only rotates 20 degrees when thanked.
What do you mean "broken"?
If you select something and click it, it doesn't put brackets. It just opens the link form.
Out of curiosity, what's up with Bawl and the main page? It doesn't seem to load there. That's good but I'm just curios what's going on behind the scenes.
a small ninja silhouette
Using CodeMirror?
Main Page is an odd exception, not sure what (if anything) to do about it.
No.
Strange bug: Some wikilinks now get underlined above instead of under (abovelined LOL) when hovered.
you can easily get all the Main pages from Wikidata and add them there.
That's really strange. I just can't reproduce it.
IF however you put a link of a wikipage (not a wikilink), Bawl gets confused and does nothing and opens the link form.
The same thing happens if for whatever reason you decide to linquify a wikilink ( link). You don't get your brackets doubled
For the underline bug, check the screenshot.
What if we include a blacklist mechanism for the public in which they can include links in it in where they don't want Bawl to fire up?
If you do.. what? I don't understand.
Actually you do.
And if you disable Bawl it's fixed? Are you sure Bawl causes this?
.BawlCancelBtn a:hover{border-color:#d73333 !important;color:#d73333 !important}
in your
m:Special:MyPage/global.css for the old behavior or enable the new option to style cancel buttons destructively.blacklist mechanism
PS: Maybe an icon can be utilized instead of words?
No, it is not apparently.
I removed the red color from the cancel button on hover, deviating from OO.ui like that was bugging me.
blacklist mechanism
You can't ctrl-f for an icon..
Done but it doesn't include namespace options. Or does it? Maybe you can utilize regex for that?
/^Category:/
Category:
would also work but would also match User:Category:example
which is in the user namespace.And regex can't be utilized on the mainspace which doesn't really have a name.
/^[^:]*$/
should match any title without a colon. Some mainspace titles do include a colon of course, so ^(?!Talk:|User:|User talk:|Wikipedia:|Wikipedia talk:|File:|File talk:|MediaWiki:|MediaWiki talk:|Template:|Template talk:|Help:|Help talk:|Category:|Category talk:|Portal:|Portal talk:|Draft:|Draft talk:|TimedText:|TimedText talk:|Module:|Module talk:|Gadget:|Gadget talk:|Gadget definition:|Gadget definition talk:|Media:|Special:).*
would be needed for better accuracy. I added a checkbox for mainspace.Even though it would be a rather spacious solution.
In it you get icons beside edits to accept or revert them and they also act as words and can be highlighted when Ctrl+F is used.
I think we need to slow down the highlight fading a bit.
If I can, should I be allowed to do that? If I should, can another word be found that is unique searching for which would allow me to list only the new settings?
Extra question: For how long does the flag stay on?
The unusual part starts when you actually delete the template parts and leave just the URL. Bawl will fail to work its auto-conversion magic
Can't reproduce.
An empty comment only including NOSIGN adds +1 level of indentation. I'm not sure the empty comment should add to indentation.
An empty new section form only including NOSIGN does nothing.
I always insert smileys without the nose. Do I really need the nose part for Bawl to detect them? Even with the new module about them?
┌──────────────────────────────┘
Also, I've mentioned this vaguely in the past but now I understand Bawl better to make a more clearer request:
I use User:Rummskartoffel/auto-watchlist-expiry to look after my watchlist. Would it be possible for Bawl to differentiate between "create" and "edit" (as it is in that script) and allow me to choose different behaviors for those two actions? I edit a lot of pages for maintenance reasons as an admin. I only want to have them watchlisted for a short amount of time, let's say 1 month. This is already doable with Bawl currently. I also happen to create some pages. I want them watchlisted forever. This is where Bawl stops helping. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
09:21, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
the button stays on forever saving all the options in that "account"
Something like, each setting has 2 tickboxes beside it for local and global and you choose where you want to save it.
Or maybe you can save them globally and be allowed to choose individual exceptions for individual settings...
The save button was "locked" on "account"
(Shouldn't there be an option to disable Bawl on phones altogether, just in case?)
I mean quickly changing list types or their indentation.
I also happen to create some pages. I want them watchlisted forever.
And this was a problem because?
The only way to access the global rank would be to go and make changes in another project where you have activated Bawl as well and you haven't set up any local preferences.
This is really cumbersome.
But, if I understood your explanation correctly, that behavior is not achievable technically. In that case there is not much we can do beside documenting the said behavior in a clear manner.
You can put as many local exceptions as you want with ease as well.
Out of curiosity, I'm repeating myself: Considering we have "browser settings", can't we also have "device settings", meaning to have Bawl behave differently in different desktop/mobiles?
This has forced me to turn Bawl "on and off" in most of my actions with it so I can do the needed subscription
The third one is encountered rarely in the live preview but it is the most technical message a user may get from Bawl, accentuated by it being a 1 uncapitalized word.
Link magic autoconversion doesn't work in subject and summary fields. Should it?
I have a feeling that you might have accidently lost track of the questions on your latest replies.
Did you try disabling "Hide subscription links from DiscussionTools if Bawl subscription links are enabled"?
For funky shit, see Funky Shit.
Probably a bug resulting from an undefined variable, but as I don't know how to reproduce this nothing I can do.
I'd only wish to be possible to automatically DT-sub to sections when I interact with Bawl.
it makes it hard to click the collapse/uncollapse arrow because it appears below the DT-(un)sub link.
During that time, we get that word and then it disappears. Not really a problem.
It only opens up for editing the last paragraph. I thought you should know.
In SqWiki the save button for settings is stuck at "account preferences"
Comment highlighting when clicked never fades until clicked again. Intentional?
What setting, if any, is prohibiting me to have permalink options in comments here
__NOEDITSECTION__
. Without section edit links sections can't be processed. Best fix for that would be to hide section edit links instead of not having them at all, but this is beyond my control.Maybe you shouldn't get ninja mode back in the cases when the reload is coming from Bawl
Jedi mind trick.
Should be fixed.
(If you meant deleting erase other LocalStorage items
The form is now frozen, the buttons are frozen and they accept no commands.
mw.storage.remove('Bawl');
mw.storage.remove('FTT');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','Bawl','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','FTT','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('globalpreferenceoverrides','Bawl','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('globalpreferenceoverrides','FTT','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-Bawl','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-FTT','');
{{#time:xNU}}
(1663162182). See
mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions. But as ParserFunctions and substitution don't work in summaries the value can't be added there.but I suppose they're not a lot
Do I have to do the console solution you described above or will the normal workflow work now?
Also, I don't know why but Factotum malfunctions in all talkpages in SqWiki now.
typeof FTT
on the browser console?Say, oh dear Morpheus, do you have any keyboard shortcut for jumping from section to section in a page?
or darkening colors
There's a list in the code
What is typeof FTT on the browser console?
Press ctrl+alt+k to take the red pill
done
Object. Well... Factotum does load with its icons and their functionality but the other problems are still there though. Upgrading global preferences here doesn't update them there either.
Question: Why K?
I think increasing a tiny bit the distance would be beneficial.
I was wondering... Maybe we can/should show the number of "thanks" received for something (if n > 0) somewhere near that thing for the user who received them, similar to how Facebook shows likes?
only having a number before the quoted text.
Okay, ctrl+alt+n it is.
The button at least says so. Preferences have been really strange lately. Even on the same project they don't get remembered many times. I need to re-save them a lot.
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-Bawl',''); <i>destroy account preferences
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-FTT','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('globalpreferences','userjs-Bawl',''); </i>destroy global account preferences
FTT.queueUpdatePref('globalpreferences','userjs-FTT','');
mw.storage.remove('Bawl'); //destroy browser preferences
mw.storage.remove('FTT');
The Ctrl+Alt+N one though acts weird in this page. It can't touch the last section for some reason.
can we please use Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down Arrow together (instead?)
If Ctrl+Alt+N is pressed, it starts at the top section of the current viewport and goes down from there.
enter to close/open a highlighted section
This is what I get in my talkspace in SqWiki. It is a lineless combination of Factotum and DT.
The summary/minor tick box are fixed but now they appear merged with the text field.
the big arrow on top doesn't show up at all (like in w:sq:Wikipedia diskutim:Kuvendi)
or it shows and doesn't work (like in w:sq:Përdoruesi diskutim:Liridon - the lines are back here though).
This is what I get in my talkspace in SqWiki. It is a lineless combination of Factotum and DT.
.ext-discussiontools-visualenhancements-enabled .ext-discussiontools-init-section:first-child
takes away the border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1;
. I have no idea why, the DT team probably had a reason. You have collapsible sections enabled in Factotum so the header is actually is the first child (of the section container) everywhere. As a result DT starts
cutting itself and now I need to write medication.This didn't happen until some days ago and this doesn't happen here
but I also get a Title section when replying comments as if I was creating new sections
The said function also highlights subsections. Should it?
does pressing Enter do anything in there?
I still have double stats though. Is there any way I can cut those back while retaining the reply link?
.ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar{display:none !important}
in
m:Special:MyPage/global.css. Alternative 2: use .FTTH2SectContainer .ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar{display:none !important}
which will hide DT's discussion activity ONLY in sections made collapsible by Factotum. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
16:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:698 This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "jquery.ui".
:::Please use OOUI instead.
:::mw.loader.implement.css @ load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:698
:::VM160:40 ext.popups was loaded but everything is disabled
:::(anonymous) @ VM160:40
:::load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:346 jQuery.Deferred exception: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'split') TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'split')
::: at https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:7686:82
::: at mightThrow (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:343:881)
::: at process (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:344:544) undefined
:::jQuery.Deferred.exceptionHook @ load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:346
:::load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:346 jQuery.Deferred exception: PRM is not defined ReferenceError: PRM is not defined
::: at FTT.movePreviewAbove (https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:5423:43)
::: at https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:6353:7
::: at mightThrow (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:343:881)
::: at process (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:344:544) undefined
Can't Alt2 be a feature in Factotum? Almost every other feature of DT is detachable within Factotum's settings.
Does this help?
ReferenceError: PRM is not defined
was easy enough to find in FTT.movePreviewAbove
. The reading 'split'
TypeError refers to FTT.stalkFoundContentSectionText not being a string. You probably didn't notice that one as it only affected subscription checking. I added a check that should make it skip an entry when this happens, but I can't troubleshoot the underlying issue. I'd need your subscriptions object for that. ( JSON.stringify(FTT.stalkGetSubs())
) It's likely caused by some talk page with funny markup or other oddities. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
19:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
I'd need your subscriptions object for that.
What would I need to do precisely for that?
JSON.stringify(FTT.stalkGetSubs())
Currently speaking, I use DT for screenshot-posts.
Maybe there is place for +1 more setting about DT/Factotum stats?
Maybe there are people who want to replace Factotum's stats with those from DT
While checking latest changes on SqWiki for maintenance purposes, I randomly stumbled upon this.
It's a copyfraud generator, that's what it is.
There is, it's in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and it's called "Show discussion activity".
<code>{"User talk:Alexis Jazz/Bawl":{"v":1661379770878,"c":1662917905046,"subs":{}},"User talk:Alexis Jazz":{"v":1661379795977,"c":1663513491062,"subs":{"Reports about Bawl":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1661125273016","u":1661124902865}}},"Wikipedia:Teahouse":{"v":1661300747102,"c":1661125323672,"subs":{}},"Wikipedia talk:EditNoticesOnMobile":{"v":1661127308212},"User talk:Trappist the monk":{"v":1661381683345,"c":1663488425506,"subs":{}},"Special:Contributions/Alexis Jazz":{"v":1661341785882},"User:Alexis Jazz/Bawl.js":{"v":1661332188831},"User talk:Taavi":{"v":1661255916495,"c":1663513491240,"subs":{"Majavahbot - autoarchiving not working?":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1661255906868","u":1661255769680}}},"Main Page":{"v":1661378282922},"Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)":{"v":1661380482447,"c":1663513490840,"subs":{"Section history":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663105742295","u":1663105327977},"DiscussionTools Beta Feature update":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663148086549","u":1663147777460},"Hitting the emailuser rate limit":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663150271602","u":1663149769048},"Google forms globally blocked?":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663242304926","u":1663242256236}}},"Wikipedia:Citemap.json":{"v":1661373577879},"Template:Cite web":{"v":1661375817016},"User talk:Klein Muçi":{"v":1661381117092,"c":1663513491075,"subs":{"Language parameter on sqwiki":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1661381173450","u":1661381117092}}},"User talk:BrownHairedGirl":{"v":1661381028355},"Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser":{"v":1661786045741,"c":1663513490843,"subs":{"AWB icon pulsating when it needs action":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1661786756355","u":1661786045741}}},"User talk:Xaosflux":{"v":1662138522960,"c":1663513490624,"subs":{"Time in WikiLove":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662138831944","u":1662138522960},"Test section 7:22 pm, Today (UTC+2)":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662142371956","u":1662142304713},"Inclusion confusion":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662638616030","u":1662638196908},"CSS help":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663255451804","u":1663255139818}}},"Talk:Fat-finger error":{"v":1662289007191,"c":1662289007191,"subs":{"Terminology":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662289851753","u":1662289007191}}},"User talk:Nardog":{"v":1662396062037,"c":1663513491065,"subs":{"QuickRollback script":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662396201263","u":1662396062037}}},"Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 9":{},"User:Rockstone35":{},"Wikipediocracy":{},"Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)":{"c":1663500757364,"subs":{"New essay: Wikipedia will exist in the far future":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662737401688","u":1662737316272},"Topic related help resources":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662741224502","u":1662740139860},"Wikipedia should be redesigned into a much more user-friendly and dynamic site...":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663069836293","u":1663069113921}}},"Talk:Hofstede's cultural dimensions theory":{},"Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not":{},"Talk:Suicide":{},"Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates":{},"Special:Contributions/Klein Muçi":{},"Ecocentrism":{},"Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)":{},"Talk:Muhammad":{},"Equus (play)":{},"User:GreenC":{},"User:Klein Muçi":{},"User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)":{"c":1663513491069,"subs":{"Archiving notifications":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663068384346","u":1663064826302}}},"Template:Atops":{},"User:Qwerfjkl (bot)/code/8":{},"BawlSubInfo":1662905476123,"User talk:Alexis Jazz/Factotum":{"c":1663513491271,"subs":{"You messed up! (I AM ERROR)":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663061437784","u":1663061283732},"Feature request (20 August 2022, 09:47)":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663283755992","u":1663282789374},"Bug report ({{subst:#time:j F Y, H:i}})":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663367178759","u":1663366456418},"Bug report (16 September 2022, 22:26)":{"id":"Klein_Muçi:1663367178759","u":1663498735670}}},"User:Alexis Jazz":{},"Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)":{},"Ustanovka":{},"User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum.js":{},"Wikipedia:Make technical articles understandable":{},"A Dangerous Method":{},"Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests":{"c":1663513491239,"subs":{"Section history":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663235802586","u":1663235378119}}},"Wikipedia:Don't use Grammarly":{},"User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/Mumbo jumbo":{},"Special:Watchlist":{},"User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum":{},"Suicide":{},"User:Klein Muçi/sandbox":{},"Traffic analysis":{}}</code>
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'length')
at FTT.smartTryNode (index.php?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:5842:117)
at FTT.smartLivePreview (index.php?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:5814:34)
at index.php?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:2181:47
at OO.EventEmitter.emit (<anonymous>:892:656)
at OO.ui.InputWidget.setValue (load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:563:108)
at load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:562:657
load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:698 This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "jquery.ui".
Please use OOUI instead.
mw.loader.implement.css @ load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:698
VM24:40 ext.popups was loaded but everything is disabled
(anonymous) @ VM24:40
VM52:1 This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "jquery.tipsy".
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-Bawl','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-FTT','');
What is that red dot that appears?
Why does the source code appear SO messy?
Will ... help in that?
How exactly?
Can the browser search box (Ctrl+F) be made to search
I believe Factotum is not related to that but I'm not sure what might be affecting it.
This is while being in ninja mode so I suspect the autofocusing problem may be bigger than Factotum itself.
indicate with what part of text are we interacting with?
make the "Return to Factotum" magic link appear faster?
What red dot?
Longer answer: yes, but you wouldn't be able see the result so that's worse.
Try without Factotum. If issue persists, WP:VPT.
Can't reproduce. Try without Factotum. If issue persists, WP:VPT.
It isn't obnoxious enough as it is?
They seemed to be used as markers of some sort but I don't understand their function.
If that ^ could be paired
Do the titles appear bigger for you though?
We've got grey, black and colorful icon. Which one means which editor?
Is that normal?
which some systems/browsers render as red dots), but Factotum doesn't contain any (I just checked) so you maybe copy-pasted them from somewhere else? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
09:23, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
bug with the color tag icons
I suspect you've somehow made them start with the black one as a default one
Autosummary for (sub)section removal? For only adding link(s)/table(s)/image(s)? For only striking through content? For only mentioning someone? For only changing formatting of content?
But since that can't happen, having each wiki just localize their own messages, looks better than just having everything concentrated on a page that only a few people can edit.
window.FTTWikiMsgsObj
), but I'm not a big fan either. I've just further reduced these messages. Only three now typically need translation: "editing comment", "removed comment" and "editing references".Autosummary for (sub)section removal? For only adding link(s)/table(s)/image(s)? For only striking through content? For only mentioning someone? For only changing formatting of content?
Different colors
It just converts the three minus signs to four.
even superscript is "not supported"
Something that I might use though is a quote button that can turn selected text into a quote.
somehow warn them if they try to edit a comment to add a mention
PS: The pipe trick works a bit in an unusual way if you use it on permalinks on Factotum. Not sure if that is intended or if Factotum has anything to do with it as this is the first time using it.
Already supported as an undocumented keyboard shortcut: Ctrl+.
Use a custom insert.
I'd say to get away from Ctrl+/- as a combination altogethertell that to the VisualEditor devs, I nicked the shortcuts from them.
Would I need to use 2 of them? Can I do it with only one somehow?
{{tq|1=FTTCRT}}:<<quote>>
Try getting a permalink from a section with Factotum and post it here. At its end append |text .
I suspect this won't be a problem, at least for me, but is that intended?
Tell that to the VisualEditor devs, I nicked the shortcuts from them.
Not specifically. Not sure I should bother trying to fix it though. Could be useful too I guess.
I had declared the pipe thing a happy accident, didn't I? Guess it doesn't always work.
</>
when the 2010 editor is on looks more aligned to the right. Maybe it's an optical illusion because of the colors. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
09:04, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Check the big bubble and the pencil icons here: w:sq:Stampa:Cite book/doc
style="position:absolute; z-index:100; right:45px; top:-40px;"
. Not terribly much I can do about that. It can overlap with other stuff too. I'm not sure where this protected-icon is stored. The title doesn't localize, so probably not MediaWiki standard.section edit links in the live preview.
have the reply form immediately switch to editing (and vice-versa) if it is empty and I click the pencil?
Also, I may be just "seeing things"
After you managed to fix the reference problems with WP:VPT, I wonder if your collaboration with users there can fix other old problems as well which we've been forced to accept as unfixable.
Code Mirror being uncooperative;
Things being added by forms being un-undoable;
Permalink pipe trick failing;
To get the same length I hit the second Enter only once.
Rudimentary undo option added
User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/Custom inserts and replacements#Weird pipe trick
Try never hitting it twice.
Specific Ref-dropdown menu per sections
double the vertical space
doubt are not intended even though you say it is rudimentary.
When you click one of the text forms in the settings, all text forms expand.
Factotum's big pencil and speech bubble are again showing when source editing pages natively.
When clicking the magnifying glass for advanced options, pressing Esc doesn't close it individually anymore
Newly introduced sections don't get the Factotum header icons (link/bubble/pencil/bell) when the reparse happens.
There are times when the autofocus magic link fails to load. Is there any pro tip to force-trigger it?
Could be done as a module I suppose.
User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/Custom inserts and replacements#Bad habit of multiple newlines after a list
A revision was only saved every 10 seconds, no logic otherwise. It now also saves for various events.
Where/how/what exactly?
Is there a way to introduce comments in the text forms in the settings?
dragged and dropped
It doesn't work on basic copy-pasting;
It doesn't work on mentions done by the arrows beside comments;
It doesn't work on basic typing;
It doesn't work on replaced text from the replace function;
Usually I make use a lot of the undo/redo loop to see how something changes.
The loop is broken here.
What happens?
Is there a way to have the same functionality without having the buttons at all,
Check here: Special:Diff/1110925293#mw-diff-ntitle1 There's a screenshot.
Sometimes link autoconversion will give a full link enclosed in square brackets for me which "doesn't allow" for the weird pipe trick.
Some other times the underscore will get rendered as a literal underscore instead of working as a way to connect the words of the link's title.
It does look a bit like some form of correction is happening in the background as sometimes I'll get a switched to an
In regard to archiving, I'll keep needing a place to discuss about the features/details of Factotum's work
Only the move function has no toggle on its own.
You can now append a label (same syntax as button labels) which will be ignored.
/(^|\s)(http<s>?:\/\/[^\s\|]+)\|([^\s]+)/$1$2 TAILPIPETRICK$3/g:<<Weird pipe trick>>
Just ignore the "first x" stuff, it's complicated
Link, which editor are you using (2010/2017 wikitext/2017 visual), new screenshot
No reproduction steps
But I guess this is just Wikipedia:Regextypofix at work. (which you enabled) Should be reflected in the edit summary.
It would be SO AWESOME if I didn't have to track two pages for this.
Only the move function has no toggle on its own.
wrong
¡Muchos besos para ti!
Have I done it correctly:
"Just ignore the "first x" stuff, it's complicated"
2010 source code I suppose.
Link = any page
use the one here as an example
Apparently it happens with all diff links for me. Open a diff link of any kind from EnWiki or another wiki and copy paste the link in this page as a comment.
For example, I keep having the word problem switched to probablem. How is that a typo fix? Maybe is it trying to get "probably"?
<!-- dummy edit -->
which will vanish.The discussions may start getting out of subject though
That function is always on, no matter what you do.
I have it active on SqWiki where I am an admin and I see no changes.
The linked screenshot shows the 2017 wikitext editor though.
"the one here"?
Provide a sample link+surrounding text (if any), explain exactly what happens (what does "autoconversion will give a full link enclosed in square brackets" mean? what is the result?)
Try on some poor sap's user talk page.
because it gets conversed automatically
And I don't know why sometimes they get conversed and sometimes they don't.
I did. I still see nothing.
Well, that then. I haven't changed it and I suck at telling them apart.
You pressed the magnifying glass?
I'm talking about sitewide/partial blocks, reasons, etc.
everything seems to work now beside the loop.
You need more, go to Special:Block.
No reproduction steps.
Maybe a link should be provided for that then? (I am aware of the existing native one.)
Typo in User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum.js
Does it allow for custom time ranges?
Two problems:
</>
, and a cogg. ― Qwerfjkl talk 19:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
it worked on refs 1 and 3 once (or twice), but failed when I tried again.what if you press the edit marker next to a ref and after the form has opened you press the edit marker again? Note that with an open form you can press any reference edit marker, no need to close or reload the form. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 03:06, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
{
"hideArchived": false,
"editFullSection": true,
"dateLinksIconSection": true,
"dateLinksIconSectExtra": true,
"dateLinksIcon": true,
"thankLink": true,
"mobileMWCollapsible": false,
"discussionActivity": true,
"dateLinksLocalTime": true,
"cureDTBlueStreak": false,
"tosNag": false,
"pingDropDown": true,
"editNotice": false,
"overlayThreshold": "0",
"customSummary": true,
"quoteSelect": true,
"cI": {
"0": "%3Csyntaxhighlight%20lang%3D%22BAWLCRT%22%3E%3C%2Fsyntaxhighlight%3E%3A%3C%3Csyntaxhighlight%3E%3E",
"1": "%3Ccode%3E%3Cnowiki%3EBAWLCRT%3C%2Fnowiki%3E%3C%2Fcode%3E%3A%3C%3Ccodenowiki%3E%3E",
"6": "%7B%7Blnc%7CQwerfjkl%20(bot)%7CBAWLCRT%7C%7B%7BSubst%3ATIMESTAMP%7D%7D%7D%7D%3A%3C%3Clnc%3E%3E",
"7": "%3Csyntaxhighlight%20lang%3D%22%22%3EBAWLCRT%3C%2Fsyntaxhighlight%3E%3A%3C%3Csyntaxhighlight%3E%3E",
"8": "%2F%5E(%3F%3A%40%5C%5B%5C%5B.%2B%3F%5C%5D%5C%5D%2C%20)%3F%2F%2F%3A%3C%3C%3E%3E"
},
"cIThatRun": {
"0": "%2F%5E%5Cs*%5C%5B%5C%5B%3A%3F(.%2B)%5C%5D%5C%5D%5Cs*%24%2F%241%2F"
},
"cIThatRunCmt": {},
"monospace": true,
"pingText": "@[[User:PINGUSER|]], ",
"rewritunOther": "#wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea,.morebits-dialog input,#cat_a_lot_comment,#mw-movepage-table #wpReason input",
"runCIOther": "#wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea,.morebits-dialog input,#cat_a_lot_comment,#mw-movepage-table #wpReason input",
"stalkAddSubLinks": true,
"stalkAutoSub": true,
"stalkStoreInPrefs": true,
"markNewCmts": true,
"stalkAddCycleBtn": true,
"markNewCmtsSubbed": false,
"stalkMarkReadScroll": true,
"showRisky": true,
"shortcuts": false,
"editTheUneditable": true,
"theStranger": true,
"killswitch": false,
"recombineNowiki": true,
"watchlistexpiry": "+7 days",
"editorSwitch": true,
"saveTo": "accountprefs",
"markNewCmtsBorder": true
}
The chevron in it overlaps with the ref-title for me;
The drop-down actually overlaps with the text form above completely and I have no idea if what I'm seeing is the dropdown of references or the actual text (it needs some background color or some lines between entries I suppose);
Tested in the w:sq:Harry Potter article, NO reference at all gets highlighted from the dropdown.
Do you need to edit 1 reference to open it?
Opt-in to have it always there when editing sections/whole page?
you'd always see the full list of references, not just those within the section, ah! That's sad. I was hoping the contrary of that would be true. Only when full page editing then.
Some of them don't work (known limitations), but those that are named/have a URL/long number seem fine.
For example, only showing the author + year or something like that?
$('#mw-content-text ol.references>li')[0].querySelectorAll('.reference-text')[0].innerText.split(/\n/)[0].slice(0,120)
What happens with grouped references?
Also, would it be possible to somehow show the ones that have problems? Maybe color them red?
Something unique and easy instead of the long 120 character strings.
But if nothing better can be found, the string should at least end with an ellipsis.
They get highlighted for me now (Code Mirror was the problem apparently) but still not a single one gets autofocused.
The 2 buttons in the live preview are the only ones without a box when clicked though.
You'd rather have a list of numbers than a list that actually allows you to identify the reference?
But they ARE selected?
They were the only ones not using OOUI, now they do.
Couldn't they behave the same as the other buttons that only get outlined in a transparent small box when clicked?
Which is strange in my eyes as Factotum is really good at autofocus matters in general.
var a = setInterval(function(){
clearInterval(a);
FTT.UITextInput.selectRange(0,10);
},1000);
Try it yourself
that's even more cool BUT... I use the middle icons with the bar so there's still no solution for me.
I wonder why it works well for you. It does, no?
<span class="reference-text"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Stampa:Ouvrage&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Stampa:Ouvrage (nuk është shkruar akoma)">Stampa:Ouvrage</a></span>
. They get detected now./<ref name="UICN [0-9]+" \/>/g
and hitting "replace" without entering a replacement. Check the diff before you submit. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
22:57, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
That's apparently coming from Code Mirror being active on that namespace.
Do empty ref tags get detected as problematic as well?
Should Factotum do something when trying to edit references (or anything else really) in such cases:
w:sq:Stampa:UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group G/doc
How about fixing problems with the references in here: w:sq:Stampa:Cite book/doc (the examples)
CodeMirror now at least tries to scroll to the right line.
auto-disabled when trying to edit references as it happens when you're on other namespaces
Can they be?
Problems are usually failing to be marked in red
When saving ref-fixing edits, if working fast, Factotum will start getting confused and a notification popup will come up telling you about how the page was changed (by you)
Not sure if a bug but while editing you'll keep getting the pencils beside the references.
Would it be possible to somehow filter the references in the dropdown menu by the type of CS1 problem they have? It would be very helpful in category-cleanup initiatives.
Also after saving the edit, the pencil will fail to render beside the references until you reload the whole page
No link, no example, no nothing
Just ignore it.
Whatcha mean
The popup would be accompanying me in every edit or every two edits basically.
you'll see the pencils beside its references that normally would allow you to edit a certain reference (what you are already doing).
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 19:28, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to quickly thank users while in ninja mode. Basically a (sub)toggle for enabling thank-links in ninja mode. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 13:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found some persisting formatting issues.
Extra: Maybe AWB regex autoconversion is at play somehow in both those cases because it's also making me go crazy over "problem" switching to "probablem" in 1/3 of the times I type that word.
PS: This comment somehow got a "red dot character" in the empty line before "When". You can check it out yourself. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:53, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
every link I post is automatically
This comment somehow got a "red dot character" in the empty line before "When".
This has made the Enter key behavior so unpredictable
Now on normal text you need double enters for introducing 1 empty line
on lists (straight after them) has become impossible to introduce any empty lines
Extra: Maybe AWB regex autoconversion
<!-- dummy edit -->
which will vanish." — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
16:31, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
the text TAILPIPETRICK gets added momentarily which is the text I've put as "a comment" in the regex. Does that mean I've done it wrong?
it shows nothing for "probl" which is when usually an extra A is added
Alexis Jazz, when you replace text currently the screen just stays focused on the replace button and there's no way to find out what just happened. We need a way to find out what we're replacing/what was replaced. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:30, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Maybe small notices could be laid below/beside the replace buttons that say things like: Found X matches. or 1/10... 3/10... n/N or X replacements done
have a "back" button?
That requires attention to skip month names when they're not in date parameters and in doing that there are many occasions when I accidently skip valid matches as well.
/(date[ ]?=[^\|\}]+September/$1shtator/g
or something. Maybe make a little module that runs all twelve at the click of a button. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
02:20, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
ctrl+z
You should use a regex. Twelve regexes actually, like /(date[ ]?=[^\|\}]+September/$1shtator/g or something. Maybe make a little module that runs all twelve at the click of a button.
that's a bit sad because marking and counting are almost always present in find and replace features.
but there is one editor that has that functionality because I use that often.
Can you please switch order with the "next" button though?
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to have a back-to-the-headers arrow in the bottom of the settings. The lists in some headers have gotten a bit long lately. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
I'd like to have a back-to-the-headers arrow in the bottom of the settings.
Also, wouldn't it be better if we had all the mobile related settings in a Mobile header located to the left of Advanced?
Don't think so, there aren't that many and several are children.
add a tooltip to it?
And I also have a feeling you personally will want to make more mobile oriented changes in the near future.
Could you please stop saying "we"? You haven't learned JavaScript yet.
Can we also add a tooltip to it?but that just means "Could you also add a tooltip to it?".
Your contributions, along everything else on Wikipedia, belong ultimately to everyone.
To help alleviate this effect, many people, including me, excluding you, start addressing the abstract entities
trapped, you need a break. Mine and other's request can wait for when you feel ready to deal with them. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 03:30, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
There is no deadline.
Alexis Jazz, I was checking around to see what has a toggle and what doesn't and much to my surprise I found out that everything does. That's really impressive and it adds value to the modular functionality of Factotum. Inspired by that, I was checking what has a keyboard shortcut and what doesn't and there were quite some but I think some more might be added as well.
Shortcuts in regard to linking/subscribing/editing/replying/thanking, (maybe ctrl+alt+up/down navigates between sections and ctrl+alt+left/right navigates between the header icons in that section + Enter for enabling/disabling - I found myself trying to do that instinctively a couple of times - not sure how you can replicate that behavior with individual comments though..) Finding and Replacing (maybe Ctrl+F), moving and archiving (maybe Ctrl+M and Ctrl+A), collapsing/uncollapsing the ToC+navigating it, switching editors, viewing edit notices (?) using the 2 buttons to scroll to the next unread comments (user Qwerfjkl might be interested in this) opening settings (! - this would free us from having to go through all those extra steps to get to it) and especially a way to navigate between all Factotum's "buttons". For example, surfing from one templated answer to another, from the magnifying glass to the cog and then to individual settings below. (Maybe the first 9 autoinserts can be tied to the 9 number buttons in the keyboard?) The navigation detail starts to get more value as more shortcuts are introduced. If you manage to go somewhere with the shortcut, you want to be able take a right/left turn or go one floor above/below where you are and reach for that element you're looking for (and not have to go for the mouse/touchpad).
PS: Enter for enabling/disabling isn't mentioned anywhere on the keyboard settings. I know that currently it serves for collapsing/uncollapsing sections but that behavior is hidden knowledge. If it gets introduced in more navigating routes, I think it should be shared with the public. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:38, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
ctrl+alt+left/right navigates between the header icons
Finding and Replacing (maybe Ctrl+F)
moving and archiving (maybe Ctrl+M and Ctrl+A),
collapsing/uncollapsing the ToC+navigating it
switching editors
viewing edit notices
using the 2 buttons to scroll to the next unread comments (user Qwerfjkl might be interested in this)
opening settings (! - this would free us from having to go through all those extra steps to get to it)
and especially a way to navigate between all Factotum's "buttons". For example, surfing from one templated answer to another, from the magnifying glass to the cog and then to individual settings below
Enter for enabling/disabling isn't mentioned anywhere on the keyboard settings.
is broken
you can't reach the DT subscription bell.
However, when you want to press Enter to act on one of the headers you will have to release Ctrl+Alt or else it won't work.
Ctrl+Shift+Up(P)/Down(N)-left/right
Adjusted, all links in the header should now be reachable.
Occupado.
When you're in ninja mode, you can get to Latest comment.
When you're not in ninja mode, you can't get to Latest.
Sad. I'll be happy with whatever combo you choose though, if you do choose something. And I'm greatly looking forward to something for the settings.
Why J and L? Any meaning?
...they are roughly between N and P, and J is left of L.
How else will you collapse/uncollapse?
You can comment-scroll in collapsed sections in a hidden way
You can't reach the reply link beside comments when you have that setting on.
You can't comment-scroll at all with the keyboard when locator links are present. Is that the right word? What you get when you follow a notification and the page opens with a long link and a highlighted comment.
you get a magic link to return to Factotum which does nothing.
Tab-scrolling on settings works in a weird way.
I can't find this hidden way.
You can tab to it. DT is in a different element.
...but what you describe I can't reproduce.
You'll notice that you don't go from the first section to the second one as you'd expect
because comments "have been moving on the background".
Can't the same solution that was applied to the subscribe bell be used here as well?
… See if it makes a difference.
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Every time I use the top blue buttons in this page and I press "Send", the request goes through but my browser has started getting confused lately and it asks me if I am sure I want to reload the page without saving.
Because of that ^ it will remember my text and if I click those buttons again ask me if I want to restore it or start a new one. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
12:44, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to "refresh" (restart) the live preview by double-clicking it. There are times when it freezes and I have to click the button between the red and blu buttons below to restart it (I'm not sure about its name in English, maybe something similar to "Check changes"?). I can also achieve the same functionality by untoggling and toggling it back on. But many times I find myself instinctively double-clicking it, hoping to make it refresh and so I thought to request it as a feature. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 13:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, there are a lot of help pages which make use of the formula "search the archives before starting a new topic". I don't know if Factotum can provide any help in those cases. Somehow doing a rudimentary search and stopping/linking you to the old discussion if what you're about to ask already exists/has answers in the past. I wanted to ask this as a feature but I thought it might not be possible because of the complexity of the matter so I thought I'd just write it here mostly as food for thought. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:38, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, MAYBE you are interested in this: m:User talk:Klein Muçi#c-ESanders (WMF)-20220930121700-Update to commentlinks.js gadget. That is a script I've been using for a long time and in the last 2 months I've used it in conjunction with Factotum. They've worked nice together up until this point. In v2, clicking the speech bubble or the pencil beside comments also activates that script which automatically copies the comment link in the background. I can always use v1 so it's not a big deal but I thought you'd be interested in knowing anyway because that behavior may very well be the way DT will evolve to and providing some parity could be beneficial in the long run. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:43, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 10:22, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, open a comment to edit, click the diff button. The live preview changes to offer the diff. You're kinda stuck there. Clicking the diff button again doesn't remove it. Pressing Esc, doesn't remove it. You're only option is to restart the live preview to get out of it. Also, if you don't get out and you start typing instead it starts behaving weird. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 16:46, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, 3 issues in regard to settings:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:40, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
A regression has happened and the filter no longer exists;
you basically try to get to the settings and instead get the shortcut table.
How would people know something was "unlocked" somewhere when you activated the advanced settings?
works for me
Done, expert/dangerous settings are now marked with orange/red blocks.
For me it's just not there anymore, simple as that. I can post a screenshot if you think that would help.
Maybe instead of adding blocks, the text itself could be orange/red?
what unlocked where
Please do.
Using triangle now.
Well whatcha gonna do
$('#FTTFilterSettings')
on the browser console and see if you can find it and tell me whatever you can figure out. You're also missing $('.FTTCreditTop').Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: I can't collapse almost any sections on mobile. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:18, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
So, first of all I'm not exactly sure how to safely escape ninja mode in mobile without activating anything else. If you have any tips, let me know.
The said problem happens inevery possible page(doesn't happen in the talkspace)
(I have a feeling a setting exists somewhere to solve that.)
but I still have double pencils. :-/
How can I send a new copy of them?
And it should have more autonomy from the desktop version.
I also feel really anxious with ninja mode enabled
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"just make every feature with a mobile-toggle"
but I'm too afraid to walk that road
Just retried. Also, why haven't you given us yet the toggles you already created for mobile?
I get just that but not its children. Still working on it or is that a syntax bug?
have a toggle for that behavior?
As a side note, the little comments' chevrons on talk pages don't do their job either.
There already is
How/where/when? Got an open form in the section?
Uhm, you mean Collapse all non-talk page sections by default?
Can you please add a toggle to remove the button for showing edit notices for mobile?
What else?
for collapsed sectionsbut they never show for me now. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:06, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: My global preferences appear to suddenly have been completely forgotten. Factotum has randomly returned in factory settings for me. :-/ — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:02, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
mw.user.options.get('userjs-FTT')
return? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
12:58, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Some side buttons for import/export? (Copy/Import)
Import from where?
...you can click the text field now to copy.
This is already a super-niche feature...
They get "imported" and the form clears itself out signifying that the importation was completed.
You can remove the side buttons and make them auto-copy on click.
Is it?
window.localStorage.setItem('FTT',newsettings);
. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
19:56, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: live preview and its toggles are broken for mobile. The live preview actually doesn't work at all, it stays blank. When clicking the right angle toggle, its behavior starts becoming very erratic. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Please see sections at:
This happens on every Wikipedia article page, this doesn't seem to happen without having Factotum enabled. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 07:20, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I couldn't post the comment.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, given that we have a back to top button now it is only logical to also want a hit the bottom button, no? — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:00, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: JS error when opening settings while on your contributions' page.
VM202:586 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'toggle')
at FTT.toggleExtraOptions (index.php?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:7774:89)
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— Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
FTT.settingToggleInt
on the browser console? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
22:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, check your latest archiving moves. Check the auto-summaries. They've started adding some html elements. I don't know if that is intended or not. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:37, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, what happens if I increase the number at Maximum subscription object size (KiB)? Let's say I go for 999999999.
This is a twofold question. First comes the genuine part where I really don't know what happens if that number changes. What effects would I get in my browser or anywhere else? And secondly, should there be a kind of limit somehow? From the text form it looks like you can go on forever and no limit exits either on text amount, string type or on the number size itself. The same thing also happens on other text forms in the settings. Because of the lack of such limits/filters, it took me a while to understand how the background image text form worked. I wasn't sure what kind of link it accepted as it seemed to eat everything I fed it first. I was thinking it would accept titles from Commons. (I'm not sure if that can be a feature on its own or not.) That feature totally rocks by the way! Having Nyan cat GIFs as background while working on Wikipedia is the raddest thing I can think of currently. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:29, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
(I'm not sure if that can be a feature on its own or not.)
So other than Factotum's subscriptions what is localStorage used for in everyday life?
localStorage
on your browser console on various sites. (contents are set per domain)What would be a sensible size to keep it? The default one?
what if you add an option to automatically use the image of the day from Commons or EnWiki or the local one for the user (if it has one)... Anything that would refresh the background daily.
Also I think a toggle for mobile would be a good idea here as well.
what if you add an option to automatically use the image of the day from Commons or EnWiki or the local one for the user (if it has one)... Anything that would refresh the background daily.
Alexis Jazz, please can you add some minimal padding around the text form and the different elements that show when editing/replying to something on mobile? Not being able to see the outlines clearly feels bad for my eyes. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:29, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
can the formatting icons be below the text form?
So many pencils (and other icons) in the same place...
live preview doesn't obey to those dimensions
You really don't want that. On a narrow screen you need to use both the space above and below the form to avoid things from getting crowded.
I remember having activated something about suppressing the native icons, no? Shouldn't that include that small pencil below as well?
Also, can't the Factotum's 2 pencils be organized in a bit different way in the mobile mode that would allow easier understanding of what does what?
having those icons there in my case would be beneficial I believe.
Unrelated, but it looks like the link form insertion icon has become gigantic in desktop while the editor changing one has become microscopic.
Live preview has another problem in mobile: The text in it doesn't wrap around, choosing instead to forever continue on a straight line on the right.
"Hide Minerva's native section edit markers", the native pencil you see is to edit the full page.
Also, can't the Factotum's 2 pencils be organized in a bit different way in the mobile mode that would allow easier understanding of what does what?
How?
... I noticed the buttons weren't all the same height when framed, so I made adjustments. Should be all fixed now.
Are you entering lots of text without spaces?
when using a custom background, the aforementioned 3 buttons only get 1/3 of their body in the said background
Can't that option be changed to include even that? :P
They are but the text in the Cancel/Preview/Send buttons is gigantic now.
Yes. When doing so, the text in the text form warps but in the preview it doesn't.
This is my current setup. I love it. I was just wondering if those 4 icons could somehow be arranged beside the cog, in that space that exists there.
.skin-minerva #FTTOverlay #FTTButtonBarRight{clear:none !important}
in your common.css. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
23:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
DT handles this no better. Actually worse as the overflow becomes completely inaccessible. (where in Factotum you could at least scroll) Anyway, fixed.
You could put .skin-minerva #FTTOverlay #FTTButtonBarRight{clear:none !important} in your common.css.
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to suppress identic edit notices if I've already seen them in a short amount of time. For example, article A has the X edit notice, article B has the same edit notice and so does article C. If I edit all the three articles in short amount of time (you decide on that), I want the X edit notice to popup only the first time. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:13, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
User:EpicPupper,
User:Qwerfjkl, I've just created {{
BCL}}. Qwerfjkl, add a {{
BCL|type=section|alt=none}}
(or whatever parameters you see fit) to whatever templates are substed to create CfD and your problems should be solved.
EpicPupper, I wanted to fix various open issues before exposing Bawl to a wider audience. The important stuff I wanted to fix is fixed now. For The Signpost, in theory replacing the contents of
Wikipedia:Signpost/Template:Signpost-article-comments-end with the contents from
Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Signpost-article-comments-end/sandbox should theoretically do it.
There are still open tasks, but nothing major, mostly timestamp detection in some languages (like, projects in other languages, the detection is flexible enough to detect more than English but not every language works) and translations of the settings. The title attribute should be set on all buttons for the visually impaired and someone experienced with screen readers should test it, which is not me.
The bad news: something happened today, something I don't want to share. Whatever you imagine it is, it probably isn't, but it scared me and I recognized what it was. No point in worrying, praying or being concerned: there's nothing you can do. If this wasn't a non-recurring event, something I can't say for sure yet, I may stop responding at some point. As I have no intention of leaving the project without saying I'm OK, you should assume I'm not OK if I'm completely inactive without explanation for more than a month. I hoped for Bawl to be a gadget someday, not sure if that'll happen now, but Bawl should have more maintainers. It's no good for a tool to be completely dependent on a single developer. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
11:43, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
@
Jack who built the house: with Bawl nearing (once again, hopefully for real this time) a stable release, it's about time I asked. Bawl and ConvenientDiscussions have a largely overlapping goal but achieve it in quite different ways.
The two aren't particularly compatible and I don't think there's any point in trying to achieve that. But in other areas we could perhaps try to be compatible. For example, Bawl uses the same method/format as CD to link another comment in the same discussion. (inserting an anchor)
Maybe there are other things that could be taken advantage of. For example, CD could possibly use Bawl's locators when generating permalinks. (see my signature) Maybe you have some ideas? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
19:13, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
YYYYMMDDHHMM_Author[_Number]
) when a corresponding DT ID was not found for the comment.On my talk page, I see a subscription button. As I already receive alerts when somebody edits it, this button is not needed. When copying permalinks, I would like to copy a Special:Permalink/ID link, not an URL. Is this possible? How can I remove the violet background when replying? There is no The last used option for Default editor for comments and new sections. How can I translate the interface of Factotum? And is there any way to make Factotum look like Discussion Tools, but in the same time keeping the features of Factotum? Although I think that Factotum is overall better than Discussion Tools, I prefer the UI of Discussion Tools. — -- NGC 54 ( talk| contribs) 11:06, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
On my talk page, I see a subscription button.
When copying permalinks, I would like to copy a Special:Permalink/ID link, not an URL. Is this possible?
How can I remove the violet background when replying?
There is no The last used option for Default editor for comments and new sections.
How can I translate the interface of Factotum?
And is there any way to make Factotum look like Discussion Tools, but in the same time keeping the features of Factotum?
Alexis Jazz, some issues which I'm not sure if they're bugs or not (or even related to Factotum per se):
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:38, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
On the desktop version I don't get Factotum on the main page. I do get it on the mobile version though. Why?
When changing language for an article on the mobile version, I'm not on the mobile site anymore (.m...). Is that related to Factotum?
Consider this workflow.
On my cellphone
I search for Wikipedia on Google.
I hit the "Back" button to go back
but on many occasions that closes Wikipedia altogether and sends me back to the Google search results.
This is not what I was trying to achieve.
Is this related to Factotum?
Can it do anything in that regard?
(Does Factotum interact with any of the apps by the way?)
And my mobile keeps crashing 1/3 times when I try to test Factotum.
Going out of the mobile site is another thing which I believe language changing isn't the only case.
In regard to domain names vs Google searches... Why? Genuine question.
Not an actionable report.
I must first wait for Factotum to load which takes a couple of seconds (unlike the desktop behavior)
At this point I'm forced to remember that I must view an edit notice popup first.
At this point I'm forced to remember that I must view an edit notice popup first.
because every namespace has its editnotices where it explains what is going on and where you are.
The text still does no wrapping whatsoever. It goes on forever on the right in a straight line.
getComputedStyle($('#FTTPreviewBox')[0])['word-break']
getComputedStyle($('#FTTPreviewBox')[0])['word-wrap']
. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
13:30, 9 October 2022 (UTC)mw.util.addCSS('#FTTPreviewBox *{word-wrap:break-word}')
mw.util.addCSS('#FTTPreviewBox{word-break:break-word}')
mw.util.addCSS('#FTTPreviewBox{overflow-wrap:break-word}')
Alexis Jazz, Factotum's mobile testing is soon coming to an end for me. I don't know if I can help a bit with logged out testing. I remember you asking me some time ago to test something in incognito. I'm not totally sure how would a logged out user use Factotum but if it can, please let me know how exactly to help and I'd be eager to do so. If you'd like that.
When that time comes, which will be in the next couple of days I suppose, I will most likely do 1 final test and see whatever old issues might have persisted and go on to try the existing modules for a while.
Meanwhile some other issues:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 16:58, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm not totally sure how would a logged out user use Factotum but if it can, please let me know how exactly
The arrows in settings should be a tiny bit darker I believe.
What if some space is introduced between the navigating arrows and the rest of the icons?
Only things I can think of are introducing even more collapsing functionalities and headers in there.
Would probably be worse.
Factotum. (period) Intentional?
if the section's title isn't too long (and in most cases it isn't)
and there is space to introduce new ones
Load, Interface and Editing have no clear as crystal identity and they could be potentially merged if we so wished
But do what you think is the best yourself.
Alexis Jazz, some days ago we talked about testing and changing the mail text for notifications. I'm not sure if you ever did make changes to it but it does look basic in content as it currently is.
I'm guessing you already know how a typical Wikipedia email looks in these occasions. Can you make the text template be more similar to it? — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:09, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, put some text in a text form. Decide that you actually have a perfect templated answer for that case. Select the whole text and click the said templated answer hoping to replace it. Be disappointed when the replacement doesn't happen and the templated answer just gets added to the existing text.
Can that be "fixed"? — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
<code><nowiki>FTTCRT</nowiki></code>:<<CODE>>
custom insert which surrounds selected text would break.{{FAQ}}DESTROYUNIQSTARTFTTCRTDESTROYUNIQEND:<<click me>>
combined with a regular expression like /DESTROYUNIQSTART[^]*DESTROYUNIQEND//
. (need to hit submit or preview for the selected text to actually disappear) — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
09:31, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
line 1091: widget not foundUncaught Error: Widget not found
—
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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—
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
at OO.ui.Element.static.unsafeInfuse (load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%7Cjquery.ui&skin=vector-2022&version=tgn0i:445:739)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 16:54, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 08:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
<small>...</small>
(or maybe just an isolated case).— Qwerfjkl talk 21:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
'''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I. Ellsworth</span>]]''''' , [[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]] [[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'r there</sup>]] <small>23:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)</small>
—
Qwerfjkl
talk
06:12, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
~~~ <small>~~~~~</small>
and I apply that by use of
TemplateScript (awesome).
See line 23.
P.I. Ellsworth ,
ed.
put'r there
23:37, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
<a href='/info/en/?search=User:USER'>​</a>
?)
Extra: Code Mirror compatibility issues. I know, I know. Only included here because I use CM a lot. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
10:25, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
My plan was to activate Factotum on Meta as a global script after this list was exhausted
This "FinalFinalFinal" wasn't going to be the last either.
You're right on that. The plan was to have some more reporting in regard to anonymous usage as well, as I've said.
From one side you want to increase user usage numbers but from the other side you want your involvement with the project to die.
Let's say you had 200 users. Don't you think you'd get even more requests that would require your involvement?
One way to resolve that paradox would be to have new developers join in as part of those 200 users but that would just mean you want help - which is only human - not that such requests are problematic per se.
I'm also sad to read this. I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do.
Extra: Code Mirror compatibility issues. I know, I know.You know, so why'd you ask? I declined more than once. Yet you just keep asking. Allowing CM to be loaded at all may have been a mistake. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 04:21, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
which will have a scrollbar on its own. At least for me.
In the past you've textually asked me to refrain myself for asking for changes on features Factotum relies upon. This is again part of your shifted attitude.
What links can I possibly send about me not knowing where to locate the ref-insertion-form anymore?!
but that harms the overall user experience.
Take the supposed talk-page flag for example. If that was a thing I'd use FTT even more freely that I'm currently using, not being worried that I may be "stepping on mines", because "mines" would have flags on them. Now I am.
/(<syntaxhighlight[^>]*>([^<\n]*|<(?!\/syntax))*)\n/$1/g
seems to work, may need to enter that multiple times to be sure to catch everything.Quickly disabling it on mobile?
Masquerading as DT?
You don't talk with terms that involve "graves" and "torture" because you're not coerced to do something here, either by force or by economical reasons.
or in having too many bug tickets for bugs that actually were there
(you've thanked us in the summaries for each one of them)
You dangled a carrot in front of me - becoming a gadget on sqwiki, reaching a stable state - for weeks or months. Every report was the final report. And I was stupid enough to believe it every single time.
Every report was the final report.- The FinalFinal thing was a running gag I was trying to make to alleviate pressure. The idea was that after every dev-sprint you (and me) participated, there would be 1 final post and since there would be 3-5 sprints in total, at least in my mind (one for desktop, one for mobile, one for modules, one for IP-editing, one for other tools/projects interaction), the FinalFinalFinal name would be increasing the repetitions similar to the meme of how students (and scholars) name their papers in Microsoft Word sometimes Final.doc, FinalFinal.doc, TheFinalest.doc, FINAL.doc...
And I was stupid enough to believe it every single time.- This is wrong. There is no lie involved. I will set it up as a gadget in my homewiki soon. That's not to make you feel better about your work, that's just because of a basic necessity: We (and I believe other projects as well) need such a tool. This has happened in the past as well and it will happen again because that's what most of my wikiwork consists of.
For me too, fixed.
If people want to ban other people from using #tag or whatever other code on their talk page, they can deploy an edit notice.
and also deactivate FTT from me on that page
mw.loader.load('//en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
on the browser consoleOf course, you can add certain pages to the blacklist ("Never load Factotum when page title matches") when asked if you really want.
And what does "not persistent" mean in this case?
Would this work to limit it to SqWiki: w:sq:Harry Potter?
What about: w:sq:User talk:Alexis Jazz (combination of "sq" + English terms)?
the auto-DT sub and the resolved/unresolved states.
FTT.processElementArray[FTT.PRMOpened.pageTitleInt].parentElement.querySelectorAll('.ext-discussiontools-init-section-subscribeButton .oo-ui-icon-bellOutline')[0].click()
and putting it in a beforeEditFunc of a module. Making it work across all skins and in all situations will be more work. If anyone wants Factotum to actually utilize DT features (Factotum has zero dependencies on DT and that's not going to change), they'll have to load a module. Or fork the project. Don't ask me for this again. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
13:03, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
I'll ask for your help in setting it up as a gadget in our project
Is Factotum useful on a desktop browser or is it made for the mobile app? Nythar T. C 06:55, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
After the nomination process finishes, the Academy gets together to discuss the entries and selection process, then they individually review the nominated tools, and finally there is a last meeting where the Academy reconvenes and discusses the nominations to finally assign the awards in a variety of categories.— Qwerfjkl talk 16:15, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
As I said,
it's been a while I've been using Factotum globally. I haven't seen any misbehavior with any of my current gadgets/scripts and I doubt I will because most of them are only active on SqWiki for me and I've been using Factotum there for months.
I was trying to activate the
AltRefModule and the
POTDModule but I'm kinda confused. In POTDModule you say: To load the POTD from another wiki, either put window.FTTPOTDDomain in your common.js with the desired domain (e.g. "en.wikipedia.org") or set that domain in the custom background field.
Can you tell me explicitly what I need to change to have the EnWiki POTD? Also, in regard to AltRefModule, I just need to copy-paste the code in my .js userpage and edit a section (with the pencil) that has references from an article to see it in action, right?
I was testing Factotum in different projects I'm active and I couldn't spot any problems except for one that maybe was to be expected. Factotum completely loses it
here. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
02:35, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
Can you tell me explicitly what I need to change to have the EnWiki POTD?
I just need to copy-paste the code in my .js userpage
except for one that maybe was to be expected.
window.FTTPOTDDomain = 'en.wikipedia.org';mw.loader.load( '<i>en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/POTDModule.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' );
(or enter "en.wikipedia.org" in the custom background field in your settings).Also, can you check the icons' sizes again?
mw.loader.load( 'en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/POTDModule.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); window.FTTPOTDDomain = 'en.wikipedia.org';
for esthetic reasons but I'm not sure if it works or no. Then I tried entering this: mw.loader.load( '//en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/POTDModule.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); window.FTTPOTDDomain = 'commons.wikimedia.org/';
but it didn't work. Is that normal as well? -
Klein Muçi (
talk)
17:28, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Actually most modules could be installed like any other script, including POTD and AltRef.
window.FTTPOTDDomain = 'en.wikipedia.org';
doesn't matter. Also it works for Commons as well but I should have waited a bit longer. At least it worked when I put it at Meta. Nothing works if you put it in the custom background field in the settings though. I tried multiple times with multiple domains (EnWiki, FrWiki, EsWiki, Commons) and it didn't work.POTD
the image gets rendered sometimes in the left, sometimes in the right, depending on the domain, not on the middle. Maybe that's intended... —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
21:59, 19 October 2022 (UTC)It has some problems in overlays (chevron + icons below) but maybe that is to be expected?
Are you suggesting you're unable to understand my questions about POTD?
Nothing works if you put it in the custom background field in the settings though
window.FTTPOTDDomain
, if set, overrides the custom background domain setting. The domain to set would be "fr.wikipedia.org", not "FrWiki".Maybe that's intended...
Also, can you check the icons' sizes again?
You're not loading the POTD module on enwiki. How did you expect it to work?
AltRef is now fixed. Long references are always truncated, there is no full version of them showing on hover and the overlap with the chevron always happens in these cases but I suppose all this is "intended" so...
Ooh! So even the insertion of the domain in the settings is still part of the module? I've misunderstood you then.
Even if I put gibberish there, the icons will still change form. Can something be done about this case? Either make them only change when something is really working or create a sort of notification that tells you that the value you entered makes no sense.
/static/images/project-logos/enwiki.png
and ../..//static/images/project-logos/enwiki.png
and /favicon.ico
are valid.Lastly, out of curiosity, these 2 modules now currently work fine and they don't bite or change the native functions in any way, only add to them. Why not have them as native functions? I'm just asking to understand how you feel about these cases in general when modules can become maturated enough to be introduced in the main code.
I added some ugly imperfect hack for the chevron..
At
Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 15, you'd find two summaries that go, →1.13 Palindromes that link to Palindrome:
, →1.4 Joe Trudeau:
Here, the section number as per TOC is applied to the summary. Because of this, clicking on it does not take us to the correct section. I think something needs fixing. Thanks! —
CX Zoom[he/him] (
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08:59, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 20:07, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
window.FTTjskitty = 1;
in your common/global.js. That does actually help to find bugs, but could be inconvenient sometimes.Once I select the main input box for text (the body), I can't deselect it. Attempting to focus/click on any other element on the page fails, and refocuses on the input box. — Qwerfjkl talk 21:34, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Javascript Error
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript at line 13368: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'style')
@
Alexis Jazz, you mentioned earlier that you couldn't interact with the input when syntax highlighting was enabled, so used .toggle()
instead. Does
this help? —
Qwerfjkl
talk
11:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
So I read your instructions for gadget-conversion and they are rather exhaustive so I do not expect to have a lot of problems with the process itself. However, before I continue, I have some questions/requests:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 13:05, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Where do these 2 options differ from each other?
dateLinksLocalTime has the word customize in square brackets. Should that word be translated?
Currently I've done only ~40 out of ~400 so unfortunately it will take a while.
I was told it was rather risky or impossible
I also asked for a way to at least open the whole page but have the line I wanted to edit highlighted but it was said that currently that was impossible without making changes to the Scribunto extension.
Also I just noticed that modules have stopped working
,'sq'
to the line that says if ( ['nl','de'].indexOf(FTT.userLang) != -1 ) {
, after ,'de'
. This is also included in
User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum.js but beware that (mostly thanks to Qwerfjkl below) some serious changes were made that could introduce some new bugs. Reference highlight, custom inserts and markup should be tested in all editors (source, VisualLight and 2010wikitext in source/codemirror/codeeditor mode) which of course I did but I could have missed things. On the flip side, these changes grant most of your CodeMirror wishes.FTT.msgsObj.mul.reminder
to find a handful of entries that need translation for that. As Memoria is a module, it should be possible to split it right away. Memoria needs to be available while Factotum loads though, but I guess I could add a check to allow it to load after Factotum has already loaded.Also, if nothing is entered as a custom background on the settings can the POTD button disappear?
I don't know where you get your line numbers, none of them make sense to me.
you need to at least add 'sq'
On the flip side, these changes grant most of your CodeMirror wishes.
some serious changes were made that could introduce some new bugs. Reference highlight, custom inserts and markup should be tested in all editors
You press alt+i and the main text input gets focus.
if ( ['nl','de'].indexOf(FTT.userLang) != -1 ) {
but I don't see that line at all. Or even parts of it. Maybe you've rewritten it somehow? —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
19:50, 1 November 2022 (UTC)What is the main text input?
[[User:John Doe|]],
" in it.I updated both js pages but the translation isn't showing yet.
I don't see that line at all.
By the way, is this the correct way to go about this? It seems a bit clunky... I mean, all languages loading all languages while also being able to edit only their version...
Am I to understand that there shouldn't be a label at all there and instead we should be using the TranslateWiki version (which for the moment doesn't exist)?
But that should be a completely different message in Albanian.
I should get completely different messages
do we really need a message for that?
is there any reason for that behavior?
__NONEWSECTION__
. —
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
?safemode=1
? —
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
I think the focusing selectRange() bug still occurs when editing references.
Also, I should probably create a new screenshot sometime. I remember you saying the last one was too wide - how wide would you like it? —
Qwerfjkl
talk
21:56, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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House Blaster talk 16:22, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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You can bawl at the creator here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexis Jazz ( talk • contribs) 21:35, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
[[User:Example|Example]]
) but I suppose I could make it customizable anyway. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
02:46, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Not sure why but your script seems to only work on this page. 1989 ( talk) 03:09, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
== Hmmm... ==
1989 (
talk)
19:42, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
@ Alexis Jazz: Any chance this script could be compatible with User:Kephir/gadgets/unclutter? If you go on any other page besides this, your script will not work. 1989 ( talk) 03:42, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
var LoadUnclutter = setInterval(function () { clearInterval(LoadUnclutter); importStylesheet('User:Kephir/gadgets/unclutter.css'); importScript('User:Kephir/gadgets/unclutter.js'); }, 500);
Btw
Kephir: I got a notification of some unreachable code after a return statement, probably nothing major. It also doesn't seem to do everything it's advertised to be capable of (anymore?): the {{
Calm}} notice was still visible when I tried it on
Talk:Roald Dahl and
Talk:Austrian School. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
12:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
mw.loader.load('//en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Bawl.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
to
m:Special:MyPage/global.js to load Bawl globally. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
15:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
var Delayed = setInterval(function () { clearInterval(Delayed); window.alert('did I make you wait?') }, 2000);
from the browser console or insert it into the <script> section in
https://www.w3schools.com/js/tryit.asp?filename=tryjs_regexp_m and run it. The actual fix in Bawl (so you won't need to delay unclutter) will be different and I'll go look at that now. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
16:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
@ Alexis Jazz: Do you think this script will support edit notices? 1989 ( talk) 05:33, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Do you have the script disabled for the mainspace? It's not working on pages like this. 1989 ( talk) 04:17, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
For some odd reason, this script prevents Wikiplus from working properly. When clicking 'QuickEdit', a window is supposed to popup. Any ideas? 1989 ( talk) 14:21, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Your script seems to be formatting edit summary section links with a manual wikilink rather than using the /* */
syntax used by MediaWiki, which causes your edits to look odd in the history (blue section links instead of grey). It's also leaving you with fewer characters available for your summary. While I don't use your script and don't intend to, I'd appreciate it if you'd fix this so article histories don't have odd blue section links.
Anomie
⚔
21:58, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
@ Donald Trung and 1989: if you are missing some buttons (or more accurately: they don't show until you press a speech balloon, and only for the relevant section when you do that): this is the result of the new loader which I dubbed "fauxLoader". It's much faster (mostly useful on battery-powered devices and slow CPUs) and more improvements (that will add buttons back as well) will come, but if you hate it you can switch back to "Full link loader" in the "Links" tab in the settings. There's also another loader there that I added which I dubbed "NinjaLoader": you'll see no icons until you press a signature timestamp or section header. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 18:59, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Error occured at: 17/03/2022, 13:17:27 UTC
My settings: "Global"
Additional information: Username/timestamp combination not found. I think it might be because the other user in question had a diacritical mark in their name, though I will continue testing this. Not really handy for people blocked at the English-language Wikipedia to have this form here, maybe it could be handy at the MediaWiki Wiki.
Help me!! Donald Trung ( talk) 13:18, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Yes, I was right, a Chinese character name on a Japanese-language post at the Commonswiki's help desk was converted into User:飯山橋 (written as [[User:飯山橋|]],), and I got the "awww, shit" message again, the current iteration of the script has issues with characters that aren't seen as standard in the English writing system. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 13:26, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
its my comments. -- Donald Trung (talk) 20:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
What I find most interesting is how Bawl doesn't add spaces but "br" brackets to the code. Trouwens, als ik iets in de Nederlandstalige Wikiwoordenboek meld moet ik het dan in het Nederlands melden of in 't Engels?
Too bad that you haven't been able to fix the permalinking as I think that that would be a killer feature, but how would that work with archived discussions with a different page history? -- ▮▮▮
Weird, I couldn't publish this. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 20:06, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Fuck, please tell me that those lines are not emoji's. --
Also couldn't publish this, wait a minute... -- Donald Trung ( talk) 20:08, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Yeah, I can't reply to myself, it loads the editor but then it crashes upon publication. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 20:08, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Somehow Bawl causes the last space to disappear when typing and that is extremely annoying. I managed to find out a work around by typing the last dot first but this just needs to be fixed. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 02:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
By the way, the add-section link that appear beside every section header open header opens a form after the category bar. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:58, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Error occured at: 27/03/2022, 22:04:40 (UTC)
My settings:
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Additional information: Just a side note that JSON should be wrapped in syntaxhighlight tags for human readability. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 22:06, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
User:Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Live preview doesn't work and the page doesn't reload after commenting. Also, there is no "Do not press this button
" button; I was at
WP:VPT and here's my preferences stored in Bawl.customizedSettings
, a place that I only managed to find out after a while reading Bawl's source code.
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"theStranger": true,
"killswitch": false,
"ffsWHY": true
}
It's a shame that despite having Bawl on I even have to use Discussion Tools' inline form feature to add this new section. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 14:40, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Bawl! (early access). I would also like to have an ajax, inline or popup, dialog. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:58, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to...
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"origTimestamp": "02:25, 26 March 2022 (UTC)",
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}
Error occured at: 17:23:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
My settings:
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Bawl hides some timestamps, as seen in:
<p>
"I'm an admin on Commons and would like to be able to see edit filters on English Wikipedia. "
<a href="/wiki/User:4nn1l2" title="" data-rw-username="4nn1l2">4nn1l2</a>
" ("
<a href="/wiki/User_talk:4nn1l2" title="" data-rw-username="4nn1l2">talk</a>
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") 02:25, 26 March 2022 (UTC)"
<a class="BawlReplyLink" onclick="Bawl.openReplyForm(Bawl.replyLinkParams[291])">
<span title="🗨 4nn1l2" class="BawlReplyLink BawlSVGIcon BawlSVG"></span>
</a>
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<a class="BawlReplyLink" onclick="Bawl.openReplyForm(Bawl.replyLinkParamsEdit[291])">
<span title="Change comment" class="BawlReplyLink BawlSVGEditIcon BawlSVG"></span>
</a>
</span>
</span>
<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons BawlNoDisplay">
<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket"></span>
<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="[truncated]" href="">reply</a>
<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket"></span>
</span>
<span data-mw-comment-end="c-4nn1l2-2022-03-26T02:25:00.000Z-Edit_filter_helper_privilege_for_4nn1l2"></span>
</p>
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 17:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
I've just tried this out and I have a few thoughts:
Thanks for all your work on this! Qwerfjkl talk 21:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
... and it just broke when I tried to edit it. Qwerfjkl talk 21:29, 7 April 2022 (UTC) Pinging @ Alexis Jazz. Qwerfjkl talk 08:21, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
/(foo)/test$1test/g
seems to turn "foo" into "testfootest" for me.(\b/\w+)\.(\w+\b)/$1 $2/g
; when saving it to common.js, it substituted out the $1 (twice).
Qwerfjkl
talk
12:20, 8 April 2022 (UTC)mw.user.options.set()
could work? ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
09:27, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
document.designMode = 'on'
. You can type anywhere in the page now (yeah yeah, great for pranks too), change it to what you mean and take a screenshot. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
16:28, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to subscribe to a scetion.
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Error occured at: 08/04/2022, 12:10:17 UTC
My settings:
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at Object.Bawl.stalkSubscribe (<anonymous>:3163:34) at HTMLAnchorElement.onclick (User_talk:Jimbo_Wales:1:6)
Help me!! Qwerfjkl talk 12:13, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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Savinging$3 preferences to account preferences doesn't seem to work for me. The problem has been around for a while. Qwerfjkl talk 06:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
mw.user.options.get('userjs-Bawl')
? Does it return anything? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
17:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Error occured at: 21/04/2022, 08:30:44 UTC
My settings:
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Additional information: I'm pretty sure that I replied to the last section, not the first: reply, .
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 08:35, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
.replace(/ /,'_')
and .replace(/_/,' ')
in the source are missing the global flag.
Nardog (
talk)
08:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
<span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket"></span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&section=20&veaction=editsource" title="Edit section: Template R to diacritic" class="quickedit-target">edit source</a><span class="quickedit-section"> | </span><a class="quickedit-section quickedit-editlink">quick edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket"></span><span id="bawlLink-heading-Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)Template_R_to_diacritic" class="BawlLinks"><a class="BawlReplyLink" onclick="Bawl.openReplyForm(Bawl.replyLinkParams[1213])"><span title="Add section" class="BawlReplyLink BawlSVGNewSectionIcon BawlSVG"></span></a><span><a class="BawlReplyLink" onclick="Bawl.openReplyForm(Bawl.replyLinkParamsHeadingEdit[1213])"><span title="Edit section" class="BawlReplyLink BawlSVGEditIcon BawlSVG"></span></a></span></span></span>
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
Replylinkparams:
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Error occured at: 27/04/2022, 12:00:06 UTC
My settings:
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Skin: Legacy Vector
Additional information: Unexpected difference between the number of section titles and section edit links.
Clicking the reply button cause error message to appear at the first heading and auto-scrolling to it. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 12:03, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Bawl.fyi
intended?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
07:51, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
User:Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: I can no longer use Bawl due to an illegal (global) return statement which you added in this edit. At first, I thought the problem were temporary, but it turns out that I should always stick to my console when dealing with Bawl. Out of curiosity, how can you still use Bawl? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Page loaded at: 03/05/2022, 19:24:42
Error occured at: 03/05/2022, 19:28:01 UTC
My settings:
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Skin: vector-2022
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Element types processed: LI, SPAN, P, I, DD, S, SMALL
Additional information: Could not open form.
Qwerfjkl talk 19:28, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Page loaded at: 07/05/2022, 09:26:22
Error occured at: 07/05/2022, 09:26:27 UTC
My settings:
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Additional information: Error triggered by user.
What exactly is the undefined
thing
added automatically right before my signature?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
09:29, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
Replylinkparams:
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Error occured at: 02/05/2022, 19:52:36 UTC
My settings:
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Skin: vector-2022
Additional information: Error triggered by user.
This is the same as the Bawl-not-loading issue I mentioned above, but not caused by ninjaLoader (probably). Qwerfjkl talk 19:54, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
Replylinkparams:
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Page loaded at: 03/05/2022, 06:04:48
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Qwerfjkl talk 06:06, 3 May 2022 (UTC) ―
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don't work. ―
Qwerfjkl
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16:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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Additional information: Bawl is preventing QuickEdit from opening its edit form. This is likely caused by a recent change. While I am aware of Bawl's section editing feature, I'm afraid it has no mark-as-minor checkbox and I'm just used with QE. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 17:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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fork with change applied) appears to fix it. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
20:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
User:Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Line 3886, trying to read properties of undefined (reading replace). Also, Bawl isn't loading (at all). These issues may be related. Qwerfjkl talk 06:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 06:12, 19 May 2022 (UTC) ―
User:Alexis Jazz, there are a few things that have been bugging me (but not so much that I mentioned/complained about them before):
(the last two have been cleaned by Bawl, but were external links). ― Qwerfjkl talk 19:35, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
/([^~;\)\>])$/$1 ― /
to append a dash to my comment, but Bawl adds a space after the end of the comment, before the signature, which breaks the non-breaking space (see the above comment). ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
06:12, 4 May 2022 (UTC)I added an href to the section permalink icon, right click (or equivalent on touchscreen devices) and "copy link" to get it. This gives you a non-permalink for the section, I don't seem to have an equivalent to right click. It'd be nice if a normal (full) wikilink was there as well - it helps with my CfD work, and could be useful elsewhere. The 'insert link' form works fine with [ [, but with { { input: 'tq', 'Some text', it produces
{{Template:tqSome text}}
, which isn't quite right. It also inserts the link/template at the end of the comment, not where the [ [ / { { was typed. These improvements cover all my feature requests (save
4., perhaps), so I suppose I'll have to think of some more. Happy editing! ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
21:07, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
I don't seem to have an equivalent to right clickOn my phone I can press and hold links (the permalink icon is a link element) to get a menu after 2 seconds or so that includes a "copy link" option. Does this not work on Amazon devices? I must admit, it has bothered me for some time that Twinkle doesn't rewrite URLs. Bawl does, but Bawl can't file an XfD. What if Bawl could file XfDs? Hmm, no, that's a crap idea, not gonna happen. What if Twinkle could rewrite URLs? YES! In the settings for Bawl, look for "CSS selector for other elements to rewrite URLs for" and insert
#wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea
. This will make Bawl rewrite URLs in the 2010 Wikitext editor edit summary and Twinkle. Cat-a-lot uses a window.prompt (whyyy??) so unfortunately this doesn't work there, I need to fix Cat-a-lot for that. You weren't supposed to "name" templates, but I figured I might as well interpret a "name" for templates, if given, as an argument so that's done now. The "Template:" was supposed to be filtered, that should work again too. It should also no longer insert at the end. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
14:00, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Does this not work on Amazon devices?Apparently not. ― Qwerfjkl talk 16:54, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
#wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea
so it should work on edit summaries on the 2010 wikitext editor and Twinkle textarea. Maybe you want #wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea,.morebits-dialog input,.ve-ui-mwSaveDialog-summary textarea
to also cover single line Twinkle input fields (just fyi, Twinkle has so many options I'm not sure this covers everything) and New wikitext mode (2017 source editor) as well. Step by step: open
[4]. (if you use the 2017 source editor make sure .ve-ui-mwSaveDialog-summary textarea is included in your CSS selector) Get to the summary field and paste
[5] into it. (just the URL, without the brackets) Now click anywhere outside the summary field. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
23:29, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
VM1047:3737 Uncaught TypeError: Bawl.currentSubs.replace is not a function at Object.Bawl.stalkUnsubscribe (<anonymous>:3737:75) at HTMLAnchorElement.onclick (Bawl:1:6)
Congratulations on Bawl's 6000th line of codes! How you managed to remember every aspect of it, find/fix bugs and then add a lot of new features before re-looping the process remains a secret to me. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Special:Diff/1087763538. Qwerfjkl talk 16:34, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Having tried some more, it worked okay, but it'd be nice if you could keep the above in mind. ― Qwerfjkl talk 21:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Have you made some change to Cat-a-lot somehow, as it seems to have an edit summary field now (not prompt()
). This would be fine, but as I use mobile, the pop-up keyboard makes it impossible to type onto the Cat-a-lot input box, which is attached to the bottom of the screen (especially pasting is impossible)
I made an adjustment and requested the change to be merged which happened on 15 May.. This was done so the CSS selector for URL rewriting could actually target cat-a-lot's summary as a prompt() can't be targeted. (oh, btw, you will soon be able to enter a CSS selector for RegExTypoFix and your own regular expressions as well!) I'd imagine that if you were able to hit the checkbox you should be able to hit the text input. Btw, I don't think cat-a-lot was really designed with mobile in mind, though on a medium-sized tablet in landscape mode it would probably be okay. I don't have an Amazon device and from what I understand they behave different from other devices in some cases, so when that happens please just report it to we can have a look. If you experience difficulties targeting elements at the bottom of your screen, would it help if you could have cat-a-lot in a top corner instead of a bottom corner? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
22:28, 16 May 2022 (UTC)#cat_a_lot {bottom:unset;top:0;}
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Alexis Jazz, one of us messed up (probably me)! I clicked the speech bubble and the box appeared OK. I typed some text and hit Submit. The Submit button greyed out and started gently flashing but the edit didn't happen. I've tried resetting my preferences and reinstalling: same problem. I use Firefox 100.0 (current) on Ubuntu 16.04 (outdated but should work for this). There are no obvious clues in the browser console. I use uMatrix but it's switched off for Wikipedia.
I was trying to..
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Certes ( talk) 23:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC) ―
$('#mw-content-text H2')[$('#mw-content-text H2').length-1].innerHTML
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adds a button labeled "Meta" that replaces that link. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
12:00, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
{{int:edit}}
(Edit this page). But "Publish changes" or "Edit this page" made no sense when commenting. And MediaWiki doesn't have a translation for "reply" in its core modules or any extension that would be reasonable to be a dependency for Bawl. So I used {{int:htmlform-submit}}
(Submit) instead. But now I guess confusion arises because "Submit", unlike "Reply", could be used for both actions, but due to history it doesn't. I thought about it and I have to agree, there's no good reason not to simply use htmlform-submit everywhere, so I'll include that change with the next update. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
05:11, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (Or maybe not, but that's pre-filled, so I'll leave it.) When I use Bawl to reply on a page which is permanently on my watchlist, it seems to set it to be temporarily on my watchlist instead. Ideally permanently watched pages would stay that way, and unwatched pages would be temporarily watched, no?
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ezlev ( user/ tlk/ ctrbs) 20:08, 21 May 2022 (UTC) ―
User:Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Bawl no longer loads, giving the error:
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Qwerfjkl talk 19:43, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 14:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
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Awwww shit.should only be added to one element from now on. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 21:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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When clicking the reply bubble near Qwerjfkl's comment at the section right above, the form was prefilled with his signature. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 06:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
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NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
10:12, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Conflicts? — Guarapiranga ☎ 09:25, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
I couldn't find a reply button to your comment after submitting my previous reply. Is that an option?Specifically that, I don't think so. There are some expert settings that can cause some or all speech balloons not to be rendered, but even those won't eat speech balloons that have already been rendered. Can you take a screenshot? It sounds quite odd to me, so this could be the result of a conflicting script/gadget. The feature comparison matrix needs to be updated, parts of it are outdated. And yes, the settings can be quite daunting. Any suggestions for clarification are most welcome. I plan to elevate some more settings to "expert" to make it less daunting. I'll try to improve the description of the settings you mentioned. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 00:54, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
This must be a popular question, but I didn't find an answer for it. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:28, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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(I'm not quite sure what option translates url to wiki; I couldn't turn it off--Could Bawl perhaps not apply it to text within tags like pre
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Guarapiranga
☎
06:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
This one really came out the wrong end.Exactly what appeared where? (screenshot?) Parse-in-place can sometimes glitch. The actual edit is typically fine. A hint: just look where the form opens. That's where your reply will be. If that's the wrong place, report it. (but provide as much detail as possible, preferably reproduction steps)
I hope your 6000 lines of code don't turn out to be a Hydra 😬Flow introduced a new PageContentModel to avoid many issues, which worked and also caused its demise, reply-link has a photo of a "bugs" bunny statue and only works on a few select projects, DiscussionTools has a very restricted feature set and eats resources like there's no tomorrow, and ConvenientDiscussions is CPU-hungry and 670K minified. (for comparison: Bawl is ~250K minified, reply-link probably ~45K minified but nobody knows because it doesn't compile) When it comes to tools for wikitext discussions, it seems you can only go two ways: make something with a limited scope, or build a hydra. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 03:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I noticed Bawl has an option to collapse all non-talk page sections by default and hide ToC. I'm quite a fan of BrandonXLF's FloatingTOC.js; so much so that I forked it (at the time his had some transparency issue, which is fixed on mine--at least for me). That's another (small) feature you might want to consider. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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Guarapiranga
☎
03:21, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
body
. I don't know what option from BrandonXLF's script you are referring to, I read your comment several times but I think there's a word missing. I tried BrandonXLF's script but it's throwing JS errors for me, so I I didn't learn much from that. — Alexis Jazz (
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06:31, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
body
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(or 19px to align with panel text), and scroll to the top of the page, do you not see both the left panel options and the TOC over each other, as if the one on top were transparent?DT uses ctrl/cmd-enter. I, for one, use it a lot. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:50, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
I noticed only comments from Bawl users (who presumably have enabled this option) have a link icon at the end. Would it be possible to add that to all comments (creating anchors as needed)? CD has that, doesn't it?
As an aside to that, I'd suggest a more discreet icon, or perhaps replacing it entirely by linking the timestamp instead, as Evad37 does in his
TimestampDiffs.js (though it links to the diff instead). —
Guarapiranga
☎
06:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, I'd like it if the page didn't reload when you edit a section (and save it), but just showed the updated section, as when you reply (note that any categories etc. would hopefully be updated as well.
Secondly, I don't think it's possible to reply to a bulleted subsection e.g.
=== Subsection (e.g. !vote) ===
* Yes - Foo
* No - Bar
You can only reply to Foo and Bar, not post a !vote, unless I'm missing something. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
09:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
the in-page updateI'm not sure what you're referring to here. Is it possible? Anything is possible. Is it a good idea? Errrr. The indentation on CfD is frankly a bit fucked. Ffs, why is the initial message indented, and why are commenters expected to reply on the same indentation level? I actually patched up Template:XfD relist to resolve a similar XfD problem with relisted discussions. This problem has many sides. Allowing the user to mess with the indentation is not something I want to offer in Bawl by default. It could be done with a module, but I don't want it in the main source, it's asking for trouble. Having some sort of "reply to section" option is also not something I plan to offer. Wikitext isn't standardized and just adding a comment to the bottom is in no way guaranteed to be a desirable result. Adding hax for XfD is also not something I want to do, I try to avoid project-specific hax as much as possible. And since XfD is non-compliant here (to the degree there is such a thing for wikitext), I'm definitely not adding hax to enable that. This leaves only a few options:
/:'''Nominator's rationale:'''/'''Nominator's rationale:'''/g:<<Fix XfD>>
if the page didn't reload when you edit a section (and save it), but just showed the updated section, as when you reply. QuickEdit.js seems to get the new page wikitext, generate a preview of the new page, and overwrite it on the old one (or.something like that). ― Qwerfjkl talk 08:15, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
I'd like it if the page didn't reload when you edit a section (and save it), but just showed the updated section, as when you replyisn't realistically possible due to the reasons I mentioned above. But that's not what QuickEdit does, QuickEdit always gets a parsed version of the whole page. This isn't necessarily much faster than just reloading, but it may feel faster. Some other scripts may get broken by this, that'll be beyond my control. I should probably add a option back in to get the old behavior for that. To get edit buttons for newly posted sections you'll have to change "After posting:" to "Parse comments in place". (default is "Parse comments and new sections in place") — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 08:49, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
I should probably add a option back in to get the old behavior for that.which is also done. (setting "Never re-parse the page, just reload instead") — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 17:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Now I only see the reply icons for comments posted with Bawl, even on mainspace talk pages, Alexis. Not sure what broke it, whether it was on my end or yours.
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— Guarapiranga ☎ 10:26, 28 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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I clicked the full-section-edit pencil of the section right above and the form was prefilled by content of #What does "Bites DiscussionTools" mean in the feature comparison matrix?. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 12:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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— Guarapiranga ☎ 12:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! Or did I? Not sure what I did wrong...
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Bawl didn't work for me till I disabled this gadget which I had previously enabled in my preferences. I understand that the basic functionality can also be had with Bawl by the "Display signature dates in local time", but the Local time gadget also provides more options for formatting dates. Hemantha ( talk) 12:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Qwerfjkl talk 12:21, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
$('.mw-editsection')[1].parentElement.outerHTML
is for you on that page. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
22:07, 30 May 2022 (UTC)E.g., ctrl/cmd-B for bold, ctrl/cmd-I for italics, etc. — Guarapiranga ☎ 00:42, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
**
) rather than wiki syntax ('''
). Is that how you intended it? —
Guarapiranga
☎
00:31, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
<b>
tag. —
Guarapiranga
☎
04:52, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
How about an option (or simply default functionality) that opens the reply box with a quote of the selected text (if any), in addition to the mention? — Guarapiranga ☎ 00:45, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
/\{\{tq\|(([^\}]|\}[^\}])*)\}\}/"$1"/g
seems to work. If you intentionally want to use {{
tq}} you could use {{
Tq}} (capitalized), {{
TQ}} or {{
talk quote inline}}. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
03:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm trying out the reverse section order option--it's quite nifty. There is a little nuisance though (which I'm not sure you want to do anything about): the TOC remains in the original order. — Guarapiranga ☎ 00:48, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
No idea how computationally intensive this would be, but it'd be cool to see a counter of how many people thanked someone for their comment. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:41, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
JSON.parse(window.localStorage.BawlThanks)
, after thanking 500 comments it'll start to develop amnesia. To elaborate, technically it's maybe possible, but the counter would only reflect thanks that were given by Bawl users, there would probably be performance and/or accuracy issues and it would not be trivial to put together. So I don't plan to pursue this. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
04:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 08:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
I don't remember seeing that option... — Guarapiranga ☎ 14:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
You really went for the "fully customisable" experience, Alexis; so much so that I've quite often found myself fumbling through all the options to find the one I had seen (Which tab was it on again?). The fact that some of them simply disappear (rather than displayed as unavailable, "greyed out") when a 'parent' option is disabled (even if it's not a requirement, e.g. sticky TOC vs collapsible sections) only adds to the confusion. How about then including a search field for the options menu, do that users can quickly locate the options they need? — Guarapiranga ☎ 15:03, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
This is very low priority... I love the auto-mention, but I'd love it even more if I could customise it. As you may have noticed it, I like addressing people by their first name, when they provide one (whether the 1st word in their username is really their first name is beside the point). So, every time I talk to you,
Alexis, I add Alexis after the pipe in [[User:Alexis Jazz|]]
. It'd be cool if I could customise the mention label with a lil regex (User:([^ ]+)
) to pick up the first name (it's easier to erase it back to the simple pipe trick if I want the full name, than to type it out every time if I don't). —
Guarapiranga
☎
00:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
/\[\[User:([^ ]*)( [^\|]*)\|\]\]/[[User:$1$2|$1]]/g
. Applies on preview and submit. Combine this with /\[\[User:([^ ]*)( [^\|]*)\| \]\]/[[User:$1$2|$1$2]]/g
to enter the whole name by replacing the first name with a space. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
01:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
/\[\[User:([^ ]*)( [^\|]*)\| \]\]/[[User:$1$2|$1]]/g
—
Guarapiranga
☎
04:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)I'm just as happy opening a msg form just to then click the settings icon, but since Bawl has so many features that go beyond the msg box (e.g. collapsible sections, timestamps, etc.), that you may want to consider adding another link somewhere else (More menu, Tools left panel, or even a cog icon next to the New section one). — Guarapiranga ☎ 05:54, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz: During a conversation at Module talk:Excerpt, I noticed that the person who I was talking to who was using Bawl! kept accidentally replacing the previous section with a duplicate of the current section (???). I'm assuming this is the result of Bawl!, as I dont see how else this would've happened. Any ideas as to what the hell happened there? ( Example diff). Aidan9382 ( talk) 10:03, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Alexis Jazz:, Whenever I want to start a new section it just opens up an editing area at the bottom of rather than bringing me to a separate new section editing page. I can see why this is beneficial but there are no ways to circumvent this.
It might be wise that there's an option that if you click twice (2x) on the text balloon above that it will do it in the traditional "New section" way. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 08:30, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Nuff said. — Guarapiranga ☎ 04:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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window.BawlModules.push({'load':'beforeLinkLoad','beforeEdit'],'beforeLinkLoadFunc':function(){Bawl.fixIndent = function(a){return a}},'beforeEditFunc':function(){if(Bawl.commentTextIndent=='**'){Bawl.commentTextIndex='*'}}});
**
and / /
in that code snippet, and again here, which is a.minor bug (I used <!--->
to break up the text).By the way, Bawl changed some ** and / / in that code snippet, and again here, which is a.minor bugUh oh! Wait, what's this?
"2":"/\\/\\//''/g","3":\"/\\*\\*/'''/g"
*hands one trout to Qwerfjkl* (plus a
is there be some way to insert a 'paste' button, or more generally, tie functions to buttons?By "button" do you mean a UI button (like a custom insert) or a keyboard button? Actually I guess for both the answer is "a module". Your module can't work I think. It appears to be based on the SOFIXIT example module above which overwrites Bawl's convertToOneLineCmt function, which is a terrible idea btw. You create an unused "fixIndent" function instead. Before the actual edit takes place, you set commentTextIndex if the indentation consists of two asterisks. I've never heard of commentTextIndex so that wouldn't do anything either. On User:Qwerfjkl/common.js (Diff 1091497381) you tried to perform a .replace on commentTextIndex, but commentTextIndex is undefined so that threw a JS error, halting the script. *hands over another trout* I hope you like fish. :-) — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 01:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis, I found this issue: When typing a msg in the middle of the text, the cursor keeps jumping to the end of it. I reckon it's just after regex.
Also, there's this nuisance that when breaking the text with ↵ Enter to open a new line, the newline keeps getting replaced out (as part of the same regex I reckon). —
Guarapiranga
☎
21:04, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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I was literally writing the previous edit when it didn't allow me to click "publish", really odd.
-- Donald Trung ( talk) 06:53, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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AdrianHObradors ( talk) 23:54, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Since reply preview shows the signature, I was confused as to whether Bawl would erase it. — Guarapiranga ☎ 02:59, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
When I include a table in my reply, Bawl doesn't quite get it, replacing newlines with <br>
, and once I fix it with another editor, if I attempt to edit it with Bawl, it doesn't include the table as part of the reply (even with a Bawl-tagged signature at the end of the comment). —
Guarapiranga
☎
06:27, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
! Row header A !! Cell B !! Cell C
and ! Row header A || Cell B || Cell C
are the exact same thing, acting as if the table cells in the latter are table headers. Bawl disagrees. I'm going to consider that a MediaWiki bug and call it a day. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
10:33, 18 June 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to.. hahaha I got an error again, on... this page! I was answering to you saying " Alexis Jazz, glad to hear! And what can I say, if instead of commenting I get a kitty, that is a win in my book :)". I like the kitty. Don't know if it is the same bug, but I will upload it again, I suppouse you have more control over this page and more test cases are always good
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AdrianHObradors ( talk) 08:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to use Ctrl + Enter to Submit comments, instead of having to click the button. I did a quick search through the settings and didn't find it, so excuse me if it is already there! Thanks Alexis! AdrianHObradors ( talk) 00:53, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: see Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:Village pump (technical); the moving failed, leading to just the section being removed. It might be better to add it to the target first. ― Qwerfjkl talk 19:29, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Bawl beta has got to be the best-kept secret on Wikipedia. I'm so happy I stumbled upon this. I don't remember the last time I installed a new piece of software, and just going through the settings was like Christmas morning: Oh my god, just what I always wanted: reverse section order! And typo fixes? Permalink comments?! And autocollapse?! You can even edit comments after posting them, with diff preview!! Gonna change my wiki-life. Thank you for making this!! Levivich 16:37, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue:
You copied that from QFN without even modifying the id? Not to mention that placing an event listener to swap ids is an absolute stupid solution for this problem. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 01:11, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Bawl incorrectly changes the following wikitext (with HTML entities to stop it breaking:
*<code><source></code> → <code><syntaxhighlight lang=""></code>
*<code></source></code> → <code></syntaxhighlight></code>
*<code><source</code> → <code><syntaxhighlight</code>
(task 10). Can an interface admin run the replacements on the remaining pages, mostly userspace .js and .css pages?
―
Qwerfjkl
talk
22:46, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
{{#tag:syntaxhighlight...}}
appeared in the preview. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
07:16, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
<source>
→ </code>
*<code></source></code> → <code>
<source
→ <syntaxhighlight
(task 10). Can an interface admin run the replacements on the remaining pages, mostly userspace .js and .css pages?<
./(<code><nowiki>)(([^<\n]|<(?!\/nowiki>))*)<(?!\/nowiki><\/code>)(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki><\/code>))*)(<\/nowiki><\/code>)/$1$2<$4$6/g
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue:
The 2010 wikitext editor doesn't work when editing full section. Also, live preview doesn't work when adding new section.
Aside from that, this is definitely a wonderful feature that no other discussion tool have. Updating Bawl using Bawl itself seems easier than ever?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
16:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Here you are. I enabled the editor switching feature and yet nothing happened. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 00:11, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Alexis Jazz: After doing so I'm now seeing two editors at the same time. Is this intended? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: in Special:Diff/1093031478, the input was wikitext but it saved as HTML. Levivich 04:12, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
<br/>
(which works on every project, local templates like {{
break}} are too unpredictable) and bullet points were converted to ul+li tags. Bawl has a rule: one comment, one line. This rule made my life so much easier, being able to rely on any Bawl comment consisting of exactly one line and not having to worry about indentation across multiple lines. I ripped the support for multiline indented comments out of Bawl at an early stage as I knew it would be a nightmare to maintain. When you edit your comment using Bawl, it'll show just the way you entered it. Well, more or less, not all tags are reconstructed atm but generally it will. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
10:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
In
Special:Diff/1093141125, I was replying to a comment that ended in a list (:#
) that already had another reply to it (::
). Bawl started my reply with :##
instead of ::
, and placed my reply above the other reply instead of below it. I'm guessing Bawl didn't recognize that the :: reply was a reply to the :# and not a new comment?
Levivich
20:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
This isn't worth pinging you about, but neither of the two modules I attempted work (oh well). If you have time, could you take a look? Thanks.
if ( typeof window.BawlModules == 'undefined' ) { window.BawlModules=[]; }
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― Qwerfjkl talk 21:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Bawl.UITextInput.focus();
before your paste command. Still doesn't work me but that's a security thing I think. I doubt it would ever be a good idea to give websites access to your clipboard.
w3schools says execCommand is deprecated.Bawl.postCommentParams.text = Bawl.postCommentParams.text.replace(/^\*\*/,'*');
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 13:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Sometimes I have already seen 'new' comments on a page. This only seems to happen on certain pages (e.g. Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)). A possible cause could be done sort of conflict with subscribed sections; I haven't tested this. The bug has been around for a while; it's not new. ― Qwerfjkl talk 15:36, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
randomly appearing in the previous commentwas not posted in the comment. ― Qwerfjkl talk 15:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
window.localStorage.BawlSubs.length
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? When you go over 64K, something gets trashed for the latter. That something should be old, but maybe there's something wrong and something else happens. This also happens when exceeding the maximum page subscriptions. (2) Did you ever reset your subscriptions object? Quite some changes have been made to it. Maybe the problems only appear on VPT because it's probably your oldest subscription and something is missing from it. I added a button to reset only subscriptions. If that's too drastic for you, temporarily disable "Synchronize subscriptions to account preferences" and enter Bawl.removeVPTsubs = JSON.parse(window.localStorage.BawlSubs);
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― Qwerfjkl talk 20:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
'new' commentsabove? If so, I do mean, as you say "the green marking on timestamps" (truth be told, I haven't seen a Bawl notification from subscriptions).
mw.user.options.get('userjs-BawlTackOnEchoGlobal')
? (5) If you notice it happening again, try to estimate from approximately which date comments are marked to get an idea if it might be since some event. Also please get a copy of JSON.stringify(JSON.parse(window.localStorage.BawlSubs)[mw.config.get('wgPageName').replace(/_/g,' ')])
so I can check if the recorded dates make any sense. I'll look into the collapsed item-in-preview issue.— Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
05:11, 23 May 2022 (UTC)window.localStorage.removeItem('BawlSubs');
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Qwerfjkl talk 06:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis: I enabled the Insert link to add a new section option, but it opens the edit source window. When I exit it, it shows the empty edit box for the new section, though.
Also--unrelated or not--I'm now seeing an empty box below the edit box (I wasn't yesterday).
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— Guarapiranga ☎ 03:09, 29 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Hi @ Alexis Jazz!
Cheers! 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 21:07, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Qwerfjkl talk 10:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC) ―
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Replacing <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight>
with {{
#tag:syntaxhighlight}} is not really a good idea. See how Bawl messed up my comment:
WP:US/R.
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
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/\n/g
be replaced with \n<indent level>
?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
12:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
<br>
; however, why don't just replace them with itself plus the indent level you already have, then exclude those in <pre>...</pre>
, <nowiki>...</nowiki>
and <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight>
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'\n'
over there, right before For instance? Replace it with
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NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
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however, why don't just replace them with itself plus the indent level you already haveMy new go-to answer: WP:SOFIXIT. You've ordered one Pandora's box so here you have it:
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just replace them with itself plus the indent level you already have? — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 02:15, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
{{ping|DemonDays64}} You can do that with CSS:\n<syntaxhighlight lang="css">\n#pt-userpage {\n display: none;\n}\n</syntaxhighlight>\n...or with JS:\n<syntaxhighlight lang="js">\n$('#pt-userpage').remove();\n</syntaxhighlight>\nYou probably know what to do with these.NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 14:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to reply to a comment.
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Donald Trung ( talk) 17:54, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Liz Read! Talk! 02:41, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up!
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Alexis Jazz, currently 'read' comments differ between device, probably because the data isn't saved to the account. It would be great if it could use the earliest unread change on watchlisted pages instead. ― Qwerfjkl talk 16:07, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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would be an easier way to achieve that. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
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[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]]
which always output a link even on your user talk page.
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 06:14, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Additional information: Error triggered by user. Editing the 'See also' section (using the section edit pencil icon) lead to the 'External links' section. Qwerfjkl talk 21:19, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, Loving Bawl—thanks for working on this tool! I have a feature request: I have enabled "[w]arn before leaving the page with an entered comment", which works a little too well. It gives me a warning when I click "submit" after writing a new section using Bawl. I decided that this was a feature request rather than a bug report given that I did technically sign up for warnings when I leave a page with an entered comment, which is in fact happening when I click on submit. Again, thank you for Bawl! House Blaster talk 00:46, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Check the weird thing that happened on this comment! It went a bit crazy and added a lot of ┌─────────┘. Otherwise, still loving it! Thank you! AdrianHObradors ( talk) 09:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly). Hi again Alexis! I sometimes get this error where the comment is posted, but the Bawl is unable to check if it was or not posted. Thankfully it always posts. Thought, though, that you would want the report anyway. Again thank you for everything! :)
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AdrianHObradors ( talk) 08:42, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly). Seems today is not my day Alexis! Another error :(
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AdrianHObradors ( talk) 09:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, hello again! I have two more features I would like to request. Still loving Bawl – its best feature is how quickly you respond to comments here. I have two more requests that I would like to make. First,
SineBot allows users to opt-out of SineBot for a single edit by placing !nosine!
or !nosign!
anywhere in the edit summary. It would be great if Bawl would respond to these as well as the NOSIGN placed at the end of the text. Second, Bawl is once again a little too good at its job. When I reopen a page it loads the text I previously wrote, even if I have already clicked "submit". It would be great if Bawl would forget what you previously wrote once you have clicked "submit". Thank you so much for your hard work!
House
Blaster
talk
02:20, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
!nosine!
/ !nosign!
should work now.Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Thank you for your quick response to that request!
House Blaster talk 21:17, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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House Blaster talk 00:17, 5 August 2022 (UTC); edited 00:24, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to..
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Alexis Jazz, I can't help but feel there's a better way to do
this. Would wrap just each line in <nowiki>...</nowiki>
work? ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
20:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
<
or >
in the source can't be nowiki'd. There are a lot of possibilities to consider with this. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
03:29, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: line 2857, invalid regex flags. This breaks Bawl. s Qwerfjkl talk 07:08, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: I replied to a comment using Bawl and something very bad happened. See for yourself. In short, the edit removed text by another user on another section. Super weird. AdrianHObradors ( talk) 11:04, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
<h2>
so the headers don't register as sections in MediaWiki or Bawl. But this can never be relied on anyway, so Bawl now detects this situation and disables section editing altogether. It's considerably slower but can't select the wrong section as it doesn't select any section. It's not much slower for Bawl itself, but the server takes longer to respond and you have to wait for that. But it's better than editing the wrong section. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
18:31, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: You can actually post empty comments, subsections, etc. I'm not sure if that's intended or not but I feel like it shouldn't. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:08, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: You start editing a certain old comment. You press escape and close the text box. You then press whatever Bawl button in a talk page, be that for adding new subsections or replying to an existing comment. You get the old text of the comment you started editing in the text-box and it will keep being there unless you reload the page. Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:15, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this small issue: If you add a new section which happens to be at the bottom of the page, the "Start a new discussion topic" link gets rendered above the newly added section, not at the bottom of the page anymore. This continues until you reload the page. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
From
Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests:For example, in regard to reply 2 different discussions simultaneously maybe we can have a warning/popup of some sort that explains what's going on (something like, you have already a discussion opened).
If you press another speech balloon a ping gets inserted for that user. Otherwise the existing form is scrolled into view.
Explaining is to be avoided as much as possible. It bores users, disrupts flow and requires translation.Maybe it can only be activated if you already have some text in the first discussion; If you don't, it just jumps to the second one immediately.
Technically possible, but why did the user open the first form to begin with? You would close the first form without asking. This would make behavior less consistent: Bawl never closes a form unless you submit or cancel it. If the existing form keeps scrolling into view I expect the user to figure out that to stop this from happening they need to make the first form go away so it can't be scrolled into view anymore.
If you auto-close the first form but only if it's empty, the user will likely perceive this as randomness.Also, again at quick glance, I did some reference fixing to test it out and I noticed I had to write the same edit summary over and over again after every edit. It would be nice if the box could remember it and show some suggestions like the current edit summary box does.
Will be done in the next update. (already have it working)This (the summary box), I assume, can be further fine-tuned to work differently for different reasons, for example for ref-fixing, instead of remembering old summaries, it can provide standard phrases automatically like "Fixed references using Bawl"
These kinds of messages are generally kept in Bawl.wikiMsgsObj. Will be there in the next update.and also mark every edit as a minor one, if so wished, similar to what AWB does.
There's an option to enable a keyboard shortcut (ctrl+shift+enter) to check the edit as minor and submit the form. I'm not entirely comfortable with providing an option to mark edits to references as minor by default as such edits often aren't minor. A module for this purpose could be written though. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
11:13, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to do 4 things:
but it won't autofocus on the opened form
but I suppose that it is a function someone must has asked for in the past
Be able to switch back and forth between adding new (sub)sections/replies or editing existing ones without canceling or saving first if nothing was changed.— Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 21:40, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I was trying to reply to my own comment.
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— Guarapiranga ☎ 22:03, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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Alexis Jazz, some more suggestions:
I get your point about 0, 1 and >1
I just wish for a way to easily edit a comment without needing to trace where it ends and locate the pencil icon.
I just see a bell beside every comment
Can a tooltip be added that shows what editor I'm currently on every time I switch?
I was hoping for a standardizing option of the sort Automatically add an hyphen/dash before my signature.
I thought it maybe could be a good idea to only allow 1 signature to happen
Selected text is included as a quote with the q tags. Thank you! I was expecting it to be included inside aExample texttemplate but maybe the current way is better.
Also it doesn't look like it brings any harm so...
If you try to edit any comment whatsoever or try to reply to them, you don't get any warning at all. Maybe you should somehow.
My idea about discussion statuses (resolved/unresolved) was to have them behave similarly to what Mediawiki.org currently uses
But if you think there's no better way...
but the problem is that I would have a hard time utilizing my elevated privileges with 2 accounts which can be useful to quickly correct problems that new users bring
The only strange part is that you can actually get 2 reply text boxes simultaneously like that, one from DT, one from Bawl. Is that "intended"?
The preview button "does nothing" when live preview is activated and that looks strange.
If you type four tildes at the very end (which some users do habitually) it gets filtered.- That's what I meant with my question in the beginning.
It detects and removes my first 4 tildes but then it will keep allowing them indefinitely creating an ever-growing list of signs. Is that an intended outcome? Should it be?The question practically is on the other side compared to the one you just asked: Are there scenarios where multiple signatures in a row are beneficial? If the answer is "probably no", then I suggested that maybe Bawl shouldn't just "filter" the first 4 tildes but filter them all and only allow for 1 signature to exist in the end, to failproof any future accidents whatsoever. The answer to that question may very well be "yes" though, so there's that.
I have lobbied for a change to the default signature.
to failproof any future accidents whatsoever.
People rarely use the @ character in summaries so I highly doubt it would bring any accidents.
together with the participants' names
Anyway, we'll count on Jackie to build this functionality.
Maybe some kind of middle-ground can be found.
Where are the usernames supposed to be sourced from?- I'm not sure exactly as to what you're asking. If the question isn't too tech-sided, the said feature should behave exactly like the current mention feature we currently have for the body field of the message only that it works even on the summary field. Basically just extended that functionality to include the summary field, if that makes sense.
Can the participant names + their corresponding talk pages be wikilinked so it is easier to reach them personally?
18. Too complicated, unclear what exactly is requested.I just meant to basically be able to utilize the same functionality as where you press @ and you get suggested names to mention in the summary field. That's it. Be able to mention people in the summary field like we can do in the body field. I understand if that can't be accomplished for whatever reason.
the same functionality as where you press @
Stats still get rendered on it though
Ninja mode appears to be currently broken, if I'm not misusing it. I can't collapse any section while on it.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:43, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Also the link textbox, similar to the move one, only understands about local names, even though it can act nicely on both.
I have 4 buttons with black text on a grey background
The arrow and its surrounding highlight. They got bigger than they already were, no?
the suggestion features on link and move textboxes can understand local namespace names but can't understand universal English ones
Also, only now I notice that the settings' behavior is still not consistent on canceling and saving them in regard to autofocus.
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 13:59, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: When doubleclick-editing was introduced it made the overall interaction a bit hard in some instances (when multiple options are enabled).
To keep in mind: When icon metamorphoses gets implemented, corresponding tooltips should preferably change accordingly too. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:53, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Things go weird tooltip-wise when the section link icon is clicked
copy/cancel link/permalink buttonshave a title+aria-label now as they don't have a text label. The filter setting text input has a title+aria-label now as normally its position would partially communicate its function which wouldn't be as clear to a screen reader user.
Can we remove the padding around?No, the button blends into the text if you do that. That could be resolved with progressive+primary flags so the button becomes blue, but another issue is that it could be mistaken for being part of some other unrelated form.
but in the wikiworld documentation usually comes long after a feature has been introduced so take your time on that.
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Bawl fires up when protecting/moving/deleting pages, the pages that follow after those actions have been completed and special pages. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 17:32, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
It even fires up in old revs and while comparing diffs, even though I haven't activated THAT option of Bawl.
Strangely enough, it doesn't fire up in doc pages when transcluded on templates/modules.
And yes, I was referring to the Doc's module behavior in that.
{{Generic image names|protected}}
in the "special" (-1) namespace and
w:sq:Stampa:Generic image names was deleted in 2020.Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) If I try to move a section to a non-existing page without ticking the page creation tickbox I get this error. A bit rough, no?
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: The 'prepend an dash' needs a non-breaking space after it, to prevent it being left on a line (see User talk:Qwerfjkl#Test on a low width screen). — Qwerfjkl talk 09:23, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) Extra blue bubble speech at the bottom of the page, just above the "Create new section" link.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 02:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Bawl doesn't interact well with a certain type of inputbox. Check here, try putting a title and pressing the button; The title you put doesn't get saved. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 16:08, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
text.trim().match(/( |<\/([Pp]re|PRE|[Ss]yntax[Hh]igh[Ll]ight|SYNTAXHIGHLIGHT)>|\}\})$/) || text.match(/\n$/)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I added a subsection to an existing one. Then I hit the pencil icon to the main section to edit it and remove that added subsection. Before saving, I clicked "show changes". In the changes there were many things I didn't actually do, some links were changed and possibly broken and the changes didn't show the number of characters changed. This is the result to that edit, now reverted and fixed.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
$('.BawlDiffPlus,BawlDiffPlusBig,BawlDiffMin,BawlDiffMinBig')
? Does the element even exist? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
09:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Can/Should the thing be explained a bit better
be made to work even with "my type" of inserts?
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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House Blaster talk 21:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: When editing comments, we get a non-breaking space entity ( ) typed after the dash. It most likely shouldn't be there. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 13:21, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
This is a nice to have: I'm having a bit of trouble writing the regex'es in Bawl's config (bc perhaps the syntax is not exactly the same as WM's regex). Could the regex fields auto-escape the characters that it needs escaping when pasting text there? (Not sure you can differentiate pasting from typing though.) — Guarapiranga ☎ 01:26, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:43, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Sometimes they remember your past valid entry
The problem is that links don't get added in edit forms somehow, only on reply forms.
They work on comments, they don't work on sections and the full page.
Should the link form be allowed to add the same link multiple times in the same edit?
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:25, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
/[^]+//:<<AUTOPOSTblank>>
do if added as a comment? Does it really do what it says it does?Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Click on any of the 3 blue buttons on this page while on ninja mode (let's say on the bug report one). When the form opens, scroll below. You'll see your ol' fren' Bawl there. It shouldn't be there. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 00:39, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:43, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
The timestamps all appear doubled to me.Not to me. Must be some particular combination of settings, but as I don't know what you mean by "doubled" I can't effectively investigate because I don't know what I'm looking for.
"outdated" look which doesn't blend in well with the rest of the page elements and they may be confusing when both activated
instead of the square, we can use a down pointing arrow shape of some sort
The color maybe can be the usual OO.ui.ButtonWidget gray one, similar to what the floating ToC also gets. This can ensure better blend in.
3D arrows with shadows that curved on the sidebar
preferably animated
The bracket always gets highlighted and then the three icons on the side get highlighted after a very short pause and then the whole highlighting fades.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
It's far too lighter compared with the other 3 icons.
It's a very minor thing though.
That's an optical illusion because it's thinner, but it's darker now.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'm actually surprised by how good the wikilink conversion is with Bawl. I was playing around with it and I didn't think it would allow for pipe-renaming but it did! There is one thing that it doesn't allow currently though that I think it should: Brackets. Sometimes we want to enter a link enclosed in brackets (link) for lexicographical reasons. If you do that currently it stops the conversion.
Also the pipe-rename process is not really clear as the link on the text form remains as a URL, only the live preview (for those that have activated it) shows the change happening. I believe the whole process, as it currently is, is only accessible by those who know what they're doing and it feels more as an Easter egg. Not sure what can be done about that though. I thought about having the conversion happen in the text form itself (if that is possible) but then I thought that maybe that could be too aggressive as there may be occasions when you want the URL instead of the wikilink so I'm not sure. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 21:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Sometimes we want to enter a link enclosed in brackets (link) for lexicographical reasons. If you do that currently it stops the conversion.
[ and ]
or a template that inserts those. There's little point anyway, square brackets are disallowed in page titles. (I suppose they could happen in anchors, but really?)Also the pipe-rename process is not really clear as the link on the text form remains as a URL, only the live preview (for those that have activated it) shows the change happening.
I believe the whole process, as it currently is, is only accessible by those who know what they're doing
Also, it's unclear what exactly you're trying to do.
As for the pipe rename... How exactly would people know that entering a pipe beside a URL would serve to rename it?
/info/en/?search=WP:Sandbox|test
it rewrites to
test. This is not a feature, I didn't realize this was possible. It's probably not naming the link, it's just accepting the pipe as part of the title. I could fix that, but should I? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
17:58, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
But maybe we can make it literally name the link instead of appending the pipe and make it do that in a more expected way.
Unable to think of a practical way to achieve that though.
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) Ninja mode on, the kitty won't let us report any bugs or issues in here.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Show_Me_Love_(t.A.T.u._song)&action=edit → Show Me Love (t.A.T.u._song)&action=edit — Qwerfjkl talk 10:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: This page, ninja mode=on, DT=active, click on 1 of 3 top blue buttons. You get live preview on and on it you get a subscribe button leaking from DT which does nothing. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:26, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Maybe the tilde?
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: The past summaries' dropdown menu never expires and in doing so it forever blocks the icons below. The only way to remove it currently is by using Esc. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 21:08, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, the link form doesn't know how to differentiate between brackets typed in different text forms. Its behavior is still too aggressive. If you type 1 or 2 brackets in the body form, the first one to be typed in the summary/subject form will trigger the activation of the link form. Its activation should be triggered by 2 brackets per form, not 2 brackets in total. Also, if you type them very slowly you should be able to escape the link form activation, in a similar way how clicking something slowly doesn't count as a doubleclick. Currently you can type them with 1 hour of resting in-between and the link form will still get activated. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 23:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
the link form doesn't know how to differentiate between brackets typed in different text forms
Also, if you type them very slowly you should be able to escape the link form activation,
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) Can you open a reply form to such a comment and trigger the bug reporter?
I think I did what you asked for here.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 23:16, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
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talk or ping me)
16:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 14:44, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! I couldn't post my comment no matter how much I retried. The "Send" button just stays forever gray and pulsating.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 20:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I couldn't post my comment. Tried twice.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
On 2010 editor, if syntax highlighting is on, the mention and link characters don't trigger the form openings. Quote-dragging doesn't work either.
The link and signature icons on it have their own workflows as well, not related to Bawl, but maybe that's not a bad thing.
The mention character doesn't trigger the mention form if used on a section's title form. I believe that's not a bad thing either. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 20:52, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
On 2010 editor, if syntax highlighting is on, the mention and link characters don't trigger the form openings. Quote-dragging doesn't work either.
The link and signature icons on it have their own workflows as well, not related to Bawl, but maybe that's not a bad thing.
The mention character doesn't trigger the mention form if used on a section's title form. I believe that's not a bad thing either.
I won't meddle with the 2010 wikitext editor UI.
syntax highlighting in VL?
you'll notice a strange shadow on its outline at the top right.
I don't see anything?
I'm confused: Why is that an oxymoron?
Check the photo.
I mean, comparing it with VE
Finally understood what's going on. It's the speech bubble in the background.
...backgrounds should work with CodeMirror now.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
If text is typed on the link/regex/move/filter form, Esc should act as a clear button first before working on the forms.
They are currently closed in a reasonably sensible fixed order.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Given that you can already create and edit, it's only a matter of time until someone asks "to complete the cycle" and requests deletion capabilities.
Alexis, may we have wikicoded links in addition to URLs when tapping the link icon to copy a section or comment link? I know your solution for this is to regex it out in Bawl, but sometimes we need the wikicode for some other input (and it's a pain to decode the hex uri). — Guarapiranga ☎ 05:30, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
mw.Uri
library?
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh
22:08, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
User:Guarapiranga, you pinged me in the summary of
Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not (Diff ~1103993080).
If
tried to reproduce it but couldn't. There was a bug recently that would have caused exactly this behavior. That was fixed in
User:Alexis Jazz/Bawl-test.js (Diff 1103048197) from 8 August though. Maybe you had left the page open for a while or were using an older version of Bawl from your browser cache, is that possible? Can you still reproduce the issue? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
06:12, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
they should act the same as the checkboxes for the editors work
Can the moving functionality be utilized to move to specific sections in specific pages for example using something like: Wikipedia:ExampleName#SpecificSection or any kind of more complex anchor?
If that is possible, can we use that functionality for quick archiving by providing a certain URL in the settings as our archive page and have a button that quickly archives a section in that page with a predefined summary? - Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:37, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Can the moving functionality be utilized to move to specific sections in specific pages for example using something like: Wikipedia:ExampleName#SpecificSection or any kind of more complex anchor?
If that is possible, can we use that functionality for quick archiving by providing a certain URL in the settings as our archive page and have a button that quickly archives a section in that page with a predefined summary?
What it is intuitive, for users who have activated it, is pressing the red Dry Run button
A kind of mechanism whatsoever should be used to redirect the attention to the blue "Send" button above when you're ready to move the section.
Nobody knows when you've finished choosing a title.
— Qwerfjkl talk 18:52, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
I thought that the section got enveloped in archiving tags where it was.
Is that normal?
You can't use it when editing parts (you removed that lately as you said but I don't remember why)
and you can't archive full sections that have subsections in it as far as I understand.
I believe the text form should freeze/turn grey if that tick is active to indicate that any text added will get discarded
I also always get a popup asking me "Are you sure?"
I have yet to create the said templates at the moment of typing this comment so the behavior can be different with them.
You mean when editing the full section?
The subsections also go into the archive block.
You're mistaken.
Even when editing individual comments.
They don't for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Am I mistaken in my general belief or in the fact that any text added will be get discarded? Because the later is true for me.
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
and date it's not in the local language;I don't understand.
The date of comments (in the timestamps of signatures) when using DT is localized.
The same date when Bawl is active is not localized anymore.
I have the option "Display signature dates in local time" ticked but still...
We're basically talking about the names of months and days and the timezone.
I'm also failing to get the live preview working anywhere beside new comments being added.
No it isn't. [1] doesn't show Spanish month names.
es
it included de
. I again get the Albanian version. What am I supposed to be looking for exactly?Let me guess: you have an English operating system/browser. If that's right, it's perfectly localized.
I think it was accidentally working when editing a full page recently.
I get the Albanian version on your link.
Shouldn't it localize the signature according to our language preferences in our wiki accounts?
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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Additionally, I have two feature requests:
As always, thank you so much for this tool!! If you ever need any help with testing (for Bawl or otherwise), please let me know—I feel it is the least I can do for you as thanks. Best, House Blaster talk 01:10, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
I have the "take over URLs containing section=new" option enabled
With "hide links within elements with the "archived" or "boilerplate" class", the () from the reply and thank buttons are still present, even though the text inside them is gone.
Further to the above point, it might be a nice toggleable setting to separate the option to hide the reply button from the option to hide the thanks button
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Ninja mode on, Live preview on. Click the "Report a bug button" on this page. Watch what happens. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:49, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Additional information: API: "⧼abusefilter-warning-DS⧽" I recently decided that I would become formally aware of AP2, and so I placed a {{ DS/aware}} on my UTP (it still works in a comment, apparently). I then decided to test the AbuseFilter warning, and tried to warn myself by placing {{DS/alert|AP}} on my UTP. Then Bawl let me place the alert. Would it be possible to have a popup (as if it were an editnotice) instead? Thanks! House Blaster talk 03:30, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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House Blaster talk 17:22, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: If I edit a section in the native way here and I save the edit, the page reloads on its top (with ninja mode). It should instead reload with the section edited autofocused. That's the normal behavior everywhere else when using the edit section native button. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:18, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I was trying to post a reply. The form froze when I hit the button. I reloaded to try again. The message was already saved as a draft. I clicked the button and the kitty leaped on me.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 14:46, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I have no idea what's going to be honest...
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 23:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Maybe by double-clicking it.
why I'm trying to provide an "extreme environment" for testing, by basically putting everything on and hitting every button in all the possible sequences and scenarios I can think of.
there won't be a lot new ones introduced for a while and the rhythm will be manageable
would make life easier for a lot of people
you see that in fact you were in the Matrix and they were uncollapsed all along
$('body').on('click',function(event){console.log(event.target);event.target.scrollIntoView({behavior:'smooth'})});
Alexis Jazz, since when does Bawl use HTML tags instead of the classical wikimarkup for formatting? This may be considered "source pollution" by intermediate users and some bot operators. I was trying to edit the list in the last bug report I made here and I was surprised to see it consisted of ol
and li
tags instead of the usual hashtags. I only discovered this after the edit function malfunctioned and refused to format the last item as part of the list. No matter how much I tried with hashtags it wouldn't become part of the list. When I checked its source I saw that the code had become extra polluted incorporating both markups simultaneously and given that the third item somehow had ended up outside the ol
tag, it stayed on its own line with an extra hashtag that did nothing. I thought this was an error but apparently there are other discussions in this page as well which have similar markups. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
01:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to select something from the title/body/summary field, click the link icon and convert it into a wikilink. Extra care for categories. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 20:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
[[BAWLCRT]]:<<Wikilink>>
.I was now surprised to learn that the formatting icons didn't already behave like that.
selecting text and pressing the link icon now results in the selected text becoming(part of)the link name.
Can't fix as I don't know how to get selection range info from CodeMirror.
Alexis Jazz, some problems with subscriptions:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:43, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: The 3 top buttons on this page change dimensions when switching ninja mode on and off. If any of them is pressed while ninja mode is off, some inconsistencies will be present in the form that issues. There is no mention button and if you click the link icon, the issuing link form will touch the three buttons on the right side (it normally doesn't). You also don't get a move section but maybe that's normal. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:00, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found these issues:
//
in syntaxhighlight blocks (and presumably nowiki, pre etc.) with <i>...</i>
. Presumably this also affects **
.— Qwerfjkl talk 17:12, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
a = ' //test// ';
b = '**a**'; //test//
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: DT reply link in live preview. Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: the bug report opens on User talk:Alexis Jazz/FTT, using User talk:Alexis Jazz/FTT/preload. — Qwerfjkl talk 16:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Probably should have a warning instead. Also, none of the links work; it's displayed as shown above.
Qwerfjkl talk 14:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
/ [\\*]+ /
on a new line.
MediaWiki talk:Spamprotectiontext#Edit request 10 September 2022- Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
...in particular its location which must be available regardless of title length...
It happens only on some pages
and it is not the usual [subscribe] link. It's a blue subscribe link without brackets and with a blue bell on the left side.
The way I was imagining it was for a button/link to be beside the final comment in an open discussion
Try the procedure multiple times.
Alexis Jazz, epic proportions request but I'd like it if Bawl could allow for easier image AND TABLE handling/editing. I avoid tables like the plague but maybe Bawl can change that. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:59, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found these issues:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 00:41, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
mw.user.options.get('nickname')
. If you changed it since you posted the comment in question it won't match. If you use substitution it won't work either.Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to rearrange my templated answers, be those top or bottom, autopost or not. This should happen by drag and dropping them on the edit form and by drag and dropping the edit fields on the Edit header in settings. If one form of drag and drop happens it should be reflected on the other form as well.
Extra: Make empty forms auto-disappear from settings. Maybe allow include-in-the-middle new edit fields in the settings. Maybe allow creating and deleting templated answers from the edit form (without going to the settings). — Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:43, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Can we have per-project templated answers?
Make empty forms auto-disappear from settings.part should be implemented thought as it currently acts more as a bug than a normal feature. If you have 3 templated answers (A, B and C) and you move B below C and save the settings, it will forever stay A,(empty form), C and B. Move them again and the empty forms start accumulating. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:13, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Can it be made so it starts on "full size"?
Alexis Jazz, I want Bawl to stop me from posting an edit which contains lint errors.
Extra: Maybe Bawl can suggest fixing existing lint errors if found in the section/page that is being edited. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 00:37, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is Bawl!'s fault or not, but can you open sections using the "Mobile view"? That is here? -- Donald Trung ( talk) 15:05, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
click on "Read as wiki page"but that actually resolved this issue which is why I couldn't reproduce it. It might work better now. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 18:28, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Lately I've started getting Bawl notifications. I'm still not totally sure how subscriptions and notifications work because I've never been fully informed on how they work generally (why do we have 2 kinds of notifications instead of 1?!) but I'll try to give some thoughts about those nonetheless (which may be chaotic because of my lack of general information).
First of all, the colors. If you have multiple Bawl notifications and hover on one of them, all of them get highlighted and the text turns blue. Why do they all get highlighted? The blue-text highlighting itself isn't consistent with the way other notifications highlighting works which have just a general background highlighting. Also, there is a bright orange color in the text when clicked which again is excessive when compared with the native notifications which have only a general blue outline. And they take longer to turn grey once you press the blue dot on the top right corner to mark them as read. They act consistently in highlighting the 2 links at the bottom but Bawl is missing some blue ink in its symbol, at least for me. Is that because I'm using grayscale icons? I believe the symbol there should be blue, no matter if that mode is active or not.
Secondly, the content. In native notifications you get something like "This user did this thing here." In Bawl notifications you don't get said any information about who actually did the thing. You get 2 links, the user-link and the user-talk-link. In the native notifications you get the user-link and the diff-link. To be honest, can't really say how important any of them is as I've rarely used any of them in my usual workflows regarding notifications but because Bawl doesn't currently mention the user's name in the top of the notification, the user-link currently has great value for them. The time period is the same for both of them but Bawl is also missing an unsubscribe button, which in the native ones you get once you click the three dots.
Finally, their storage and usage. I have no idea what happens with their storage. Sometimes they disappear completely, sometimes they reappear again... When you click them, the correct page loads but nothing gets autofocused. Is it because I have the ninja mode on? Also when viewing them from other projects, for example, viewing EnWiki Bawl notifications from SqWiki, no mentioning of the origin is done.
In all what I've said above I'd personally wish for as much consistency in the look, feel and behavior with the native notifications as possible. Is it already bad enough that we have 2 kinds of notifications natively. Introducing new styling would make that number practically raise to 3, a deed which should only be undertaken if the cost of added benefits far outweighs the confusion the lack of consistency may bring.
I have no idea how thank notifications work with Bawl or how notifications coming from multi-user discussions would look like as I haven't gotten any of them. Or how multi notifications coming from the same source would get bundled. I also am not sure how they interact with email links or DT. I get email notifications for mentions, comments and edits in regard to my watchlist, most likely because I have DT still active "on the background". This is actually good because, for me, 90% of the wikiworkflows start from emails. I get an email notification in my phone, follow the link there and keep following the rabbit whole that issues by laptop if needed. But I have no idea what happens with Bawl notifications during this process, if they are marked as read when I follow the supposedly DT (?) email link to a certain discussion Bawl is also notifying me about. Or if they are marked as read when I interact with the said discussion.
A general note about the user experience affecting notifications can be made here emphasizing the clunkiness that issues by a combination of factors: Currently, as I've touched in another discussion above, generally speaking, Bawl works like a lever-action gun; You do 1 action and you need to reload before you can do another action or you'll most likely start encountering errors. When this is coupled with ninja mode the complexity rises even more as now you'll need to actually break it off first before you can do anything. This hinders speed in general but I believe it also makes working with notifications pretty hard. Maybe even collapsed sections play a part in this. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 23:44, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Is it because I have the ninja mode on?
And they take longer to turn grey once you press the blue dot on the top right corner to mark them as read.
You get 2 links, the user-link and the user-talk-link. In the native notifications you get the user-link and the diff-link.
Also when viewing them from other projects, for example, viewing EnWiki Bawl notifications from SqWiki, no mentioning of the origin is done.
Bawl is also missing an unsubscribe button, which in the native ones you get once you click the three dots.
how thank notifications work with Bawl
Or how multi notifications coming from the same source would get bundled.
I also am not sure how they interact with email links or DT. I get email notifications for mentions, comments and edits in regard to my watchlist, most likely because I have DT still active "on the background". This is actually good because, for me, 90% of the wikiworkflows start from emails.
if they are marked as read when I follow the supposedly DT (?) email link to a certain discussion Bawl is also notifying me about. Or if they are marked as read when I interact with the said discussion.
Some issues:
Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:19, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Some comments on the functions related to the references now that I've had the chance to use them for a while and finally got the quickadd function for them in my homewiki.
|arxiv=
value, Bawl reads that and regex-searches for |arxiv=value
in the reference that it is going to display and highlights it. I'm not sure if there is a way for Bawl to parse the messages though.Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:59, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
If a link is put and it's not allowed to be entered, the whole form is forever blocked until closed.was still true but I've forgotten how to actually insert refs with Factotum. :P
<span>...</span>
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when a parameter is mentioned it's often because it's missing. This is a strong point. Depending on how much we trusted Factotum to help on ref-fix issues, we could argue that in those cases it could maybe add that parameter and wait for a value... But considering you say even fixing current parameters is beyond Factotum, I guess that is unthinkable. This is a shame because as you may remember I started using this script with the hope to do just that but being able to quickly edit references is a great improvement and I'm grateful for that.
we could argue that in those cases it could maybe add that parameter and wait for a value
transcripturl
/ transcript-url
)Do we have any idea why it fails on the autofocusing matter so often though?
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) The quote accident just happened again. I double-clicked to get out of ninja mode. Then I opened the section I wanted to reply to and I double-clicked it. It already had a (this time empty but it varies) quote in it.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
2/3 of the times Factotum will either refuse to load at all or load but you can't use it
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to use emojis. All of them! This is a low priority request of course but it would be nice if traditional combinations like :) -_- <3 (Y) could be automatically converted to their corresponding emoji forms in discussions for easier and more sociable interactions. The way I'm imagining this to go is that there should exist a list somewhere of the said combinations and their corresponding conversions which can be given to Bawl and liberate us once and for all from the currently limited number-wise use of the {{ Smiley}} template. The list can be updated every once in a while and could even include non-emoji text images like the *shrug man*, etc. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:47, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
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descriptions copied from Emoticons (Unicode block) (CC BY-SA 3.0) which is partially based on https://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/emoji/emoji-data.txt ( https://www.unicode.org/license.txt). — Qwerfjkl talk 21:02, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Try typing :-) 2 times in a row anywhere and see what happens.
Alexis Jazz, live preview doesn't work with VL for me apparently.
Also, again not related, but when switching between editors back and forth from VL you'll sometimes get a nonbreaking space character inserted "automatically" but I'm not sure what exactly causes it.
I've been thinking about the name of this project. Originally it was a replacement for
User:Enterprisey/reply-link. It's quite a bit more than that now, so
bawl doesn't quite describe it anymore. In addition, some people misread it as "brawl", a more common word.
My current thinking is to name it "Jack", in reference to
Jack of all trades. Any comment? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
11:48, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
if line height matching is an aim
something should be done for the VL editor
DT reply links are back in the live preview
Even though the circular toggle does nothing for me currently
Assuming the bottom line of the chevron symbolizes the location of the preview box.
but for me it was still unworkable
because why would you make them not aligned in height
DT subscribe-bell-links are back (in previews? - not sure).
What is "unworkable"? When entering a character in the text input, how long does it take to appear?
using the native 2010 wikitext editor, I was hoping to do the tests in the order they were written so given that I failed the first one, I didn't go on with the second. However I tried now. It is still slow but is faster than what I described above (maybe today are both faster though?), it takes around 2-3 seconds in total for the cursor to be ready to type again after typing something. I went ahead and disabled the syntax highlighting and it made a huge difference. The text finally seemed to flow normally and you could edit the page as usually if you so wished. This is kind of a revelation for me as for many years I've just accepted the fact that it is impossible for me to edit any long page fully as a given because of my love for syntax highlighting. Apparently I can just disable that temporarily for an extra speed boost. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:42, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
I am technically unable to try anything in incognito mode at that article as it won't allow me to type anything because of its protection.
FTT.UITextInput.isDisabled()
and FTT.UITextInput.isReadOnly()
on the browser console? Is the source text black or gray? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
18:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Additional information: Hi Alexis! The buttons to disable live preview and put the preview beside text are now overlapping with the settings button. For an example, see this screenshot.
House Blaster talk 17:42, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
However, they now overlap the preview itself, both beside and below.
it would be great if the tabs (Load, Interface, etc.) that have no results were hidden.
it would be great if the tabs (Load, Interface, etc.) that have no results were hidden.
It would be nicer for the overall picture.
Can we have a notice of some kind in this scenario?
Esc-blank the settings filter?
can I vote on this?
...and it would push down images/infoboxes at the top
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: vertical scrolling when scrolling to unread comments has reappeared. — Qwerfjkl talk 08:59, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to change where the buttons to switch to side-by-side and enable/disable live preview in settings. I guess disabling the buttons entirely would also be a valid option, if you do not plan to use the buttons. Thanks! House Blaster talk 17:03, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Factotum doesn't load in Template talk:Edit taxonomy (just that page). — Qwerfjkl talk 20:33, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
mw-editsection
class within a comment (bad idea, please use mw-editsection-like
instead), Factotum choked on it. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
15:45, 17 September 2022 (UTC)Alexis Jazz, this will be the final list of issues related to Factotum after a last general test. Most of the issues mentioned here will be things that have been mentioned in the past.
What is going on?< selected text and pressed speech bubble
Edit always takes precedence over reply- We should clarify this in the relevant settings. Also double clicks don't work on lists.
Try to reproduce issues on [2] in a private/incognito window. Try adjusting settings until you can reproduce an issue. Tell me which setting is the culprit.
relative/actual datewhy
Alexis Jazz,
File:Factotum, English screenshot (2022-02).png might need updating. It looks fairly outdated (I remember you've changed ABC to XYZ, for example). —
Qwerfjkl
talk
20:48, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 14:39, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, two requests:
Also, the DT headers (just bold) appear in the preview. — Qwerfjkl talk 22:05, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Please see this ticket at the Phabricator, AKlapper installed the Ecosia browser and tried re-creating this issue but couldn't get it, I then tried using incognito mode and I didn't have this issue there either. So it's not the browser, it's not the "Advanced mobile mode", and it's not the operating system. The issues I'm experiencing likely happened due to Factotum. I really think that you should probably try to use the "Mobile view" more often, because "mobile editors" live in a completely different universe as "desktop editors". -- Donald Trung ( talk) 18:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Crtl+Alt+P/N gives
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'undefined')
at HTMLDocument.<anonymous> (<anonymous>:848:61)
at HTMLDocument dispatch (load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%7Cjquery.ui&skin=vector-2022&version=r4ndc:364:260)
at elemData handle (load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%7Cjquery.ui&skin=vector-2022&version=r4ndc:360:877) —
Qwerfjkl
talk
14:02, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
?disableftt=1
to the URL) — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
15:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: The diff number is relative, not absolute. You edit an existing post and add 4 characters. You hit the "show changes" button. Your diff gets previewed and a +4 number gets shown below. You don't save but instead remove those 4 added characters and click the same button again. The changes get previewed and this time the number reads -4. It should actually be 0 or nonexistent. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:19, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
So... Go to the article, all sections are opened, click somewhere to break out of ninja mode, all sections are now closed. I just want them to keep being opened.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:40, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello! :)
I just wanted to reinforce what might already be a known fact that you are under no deadline pressure whatsoever to act according to the reports I've made on Bawl. I just saw the potential Bawl had in what it could do after you showed it to me and wanted to help somehow. I've tested everything I could (beside actually using it for some real replying, funny enough) and I provided reports in real time at you. This was just to have them noted somewhere and it doesn't mean I expect any swift answers in any of them, although you've been pretty fast in responding so far. Take your time and use my reports just as potential big to do lists. At the moment of speaking, as I wrote, I've tested everything I could and most likely there won't be a lot more new posts (or any) until I test the actual reply formatting/post creation in action which I believe won't happen for some days. In the meantime, I'll be ready to reply on any comment you may make on those reports.
Thank you and have a good time! - Klein Muçi ( talk) 16:36, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
#BawlMainButtonBar {margin-top:3em}
in
Special:MyPage/common.css.have my answer appear right below it
what happens if I also use the {{ outdent}} template
Do I get notified with emails about discussions I'm subscribed to with Bawl?
wouldn't it be better if the text form would appear
If you're editing something with Bawl and refresh the page, nothing will stop you from doing that.
If you're editing something with Bawl and duplicate the page in a new tab, the form won't auto-open and auto-load your text.
and try to start Bawl-editing each one of them?
I get the whole list of settings, even when what I wrote is an exact match of one of them.
I get no warning prior to refreshing. It just refreshes.
I search for "collap" and I get, again, the whole list of settings.
Uhm... Did there use to be a diff button?
I was trying to see if headers themselves were included in searches or not
I thought the participants were autosuggested first but I could go on and basically get suggestions for the names of all users possible if I wished. That's how DT works. How would I call someone to be part in a discussion if that feature only works for participants?
Selecting the live preview text behaves strangely: It allows you to extend the selection far outside the preview box.
The same problem with selection happens with the "Return to Bawl" autofocus links.
First of all, wikilinks are allowed in summaries so the link-form should be able to add those as well.
its placeholder grey text never reads anything about mentioning or users in general,
you get a dropdown menu precisely where the @ character is located
doesn't it feel a bit redundant having the "Drop-down menu to add user mentions" option?
in completely different places (from the @-form and from the link-form)
Also, italic formatting is broken
When comment editing by doubleclicking, the autofocus feature may be broken as well.
The tooltip you get after you thanked someone needs a capital T;
The tooltip for the contributors still makes use of the word "participants"
The mw.notify about settings and refreshing could serve as a refresh button if clicked;
You selected a word, you slide the word down on the text form and it gets pasted there. Could it be possible that Bawl understands this action as quoting
I believe these are all intended
PS: Can you archive some of the old completed discussions in the /Bawl subpage?
it will forever read "User's name";
and for some time it supported reference adding and preformatting too (I haven't seen that option anymore)
if we include the sharing functions it provides which come from clicking an identic icon
Is there a way to share comment links instead of difflinks?
Its icon currently is
The autofocus bug appears to be pretty random.
But actually nothing happens if you do.
You had logged out, click me to reload this page and get back your settings.
For me, currently, at this message I'm typing, slide-quoting doesn't work.
Also I see no @ icon in your talkpage for some reason which is strange.
Autosuggestion shouldn't suggest your username when doing the first immediate suggestions;
instead you get the full list of users rolling from A. You should get them back;
Bit of an extreme situation, don't you think?
They actually don't be detected at all as text. You can have a comment full of links but you will lose everything without a warning if you press Escape.
The first days I opted in the extra care about timestamps performance was terrible. You typed so slowly and the text was extra delayed when being presented in the live preview feature.
Now there is still some delay between the text and the preview but the delay between in typing is almost gone (even though you can still notice it a bit). I was wondering if whatever you did you could do more of it (LOL).
Would it be possible to have the names of the contributors shown on hover if it's not a long list?
If the comment has a locator (comment made with Bawl), yes.
Done, was broken in every last section and this is currently the last section of this page.
Can't reproduce.
How exactly?
Now it's still missing on sections which have no signatures though
Try adding many links in a comment only through the link form without having pressed any key whatsoever before. Then press escape. They should get removed.
Quote-dragging doesn't work on multilines. I guess that is intentional but I thought I'd say.
The mention and link forms can get activated again (refreshed) even if they're already active or have text in them, if you just press the needed symbols. Is that intentional?
Searched for "wrong" on the filter but the setting never showed up.
I noticed that the tooltip contributors' list doesn't truncate even on +20 names. That's very good news for me but I was wondering if it had any limit whatsoever.
What happens if you activate an edit filter with Bawl? Hard for me to tryout as admins are not affected and I don't have another account.
Make the mention button permanent instead of an "opt-in",
remove the reference reference in it
change the "enter" button that currently says "Add the link" to say something like "Mention/Tag this user"
echo-displaysnippet-title
: New notificationremove the link name field
If it is (or becomes) empty it shows only your signature. Maybe it shouldn't be there at all?
there were some cases where I clicked 2-3 times until I understood what was going on.
On the same subject, should the cancel button you get on the thank-popup be highlighted in red?
Permalink generated for your comment
Yeah, that's what I called a diff link.
Try dragging a text of yours that has a quote, a done template and some words. See if it gets quotified.
Kitty should be reserved for bugs, more or less.
Works for me.
It doesn't for me. It only works on comments the multiple lines of which are uninterrupted (which are just 1 line per se).
As for the links... It's still a permalink.
I was expecting to see a link in the current version in "more dynamic" situations where I click it and I'm still able to continue commenting and replying on the page normally, basically have the comment-link behave as section-link does.
Speaking of that, neither of them closes with Esc. They should.
it will get the message too far in the top and you'll only read its ending basically.
The link you've provided behaves in the strangest way possible and I have no idea what's going on. You click it, you get to the sandbox and then you get back here immediately while the comment gets highlighted.
Apparently all I've ever need for Bawl to go full automatic instead of acting like a lever-action gun was for me to activate "After posting - Reload the page". I was doing that manually nonetheless each time so now it's pretty good.
But why does Never re-parse the page, just reload instead exist if the said option also exists in the dropdown menu?
Also, I get this message: Done! Thank you for using Bawl! It has 2 links in it but so far I haven't been able to click them because it disappears too fast. Where do they lead you?
Finally, why do these options exist:
If adding links takes more than 8 seconds stop adding links
Prevent double hashtag indentation (numbered list inside numbered list)
Recombine adjacent nowiki tags within syntaxhighlight. Neater wikitext, but when editing such a comment you may be greeted by #tag:syntaxhighlight instead of syntaxhighlight or nowiki tags may fail to be filtered out.
All 3 fields of CSS in Editing
many occasions where random words get selected and then put as quotes in the just opened form.
Unless I know exactly what happens there's nothing I can do.
I don't understand, in what scenario would you use this? Isn't this what the permalink icon inserts with an open reply form in the same section?
What is "them"?
Less abstract example ... will correctly redirect to the archive page.
Why did you feel the need to reload the page after posting?
Try loading a page with 1000+ comments...
Opening a form by double click should always prevent the inclusion of a quote and it works for me.
I have not changed anything in it. This is exactly as it appeared after I dragged it from above and it appeared identically on the live preview.
They don't get removed by pressing Esc.
It actually sends me to the archive page but nothing autofocuses.
I do get the logic, I just don't understand what exactly is meant with "links" in this context and what happens if said "links" are not posted after 8 seconds have passed.
I'll try to send you a bug report when that has happened. Maybe it will help?
Which browser do you use?
Are you sure you got redirected to the archive page?
It should work now.
Try to include as many details as possible.
the same phenomenon happened a couple of times again
A funny bug - You can actually drag a part of text from the form you're currently editing back to itself and it will count as a quote. :P I believe that's not intended. Actually... You can drag text from everywhere... Even from other tabs. And it will still render it as a quote.
I believe you shouldn't get the thank option for yourself.
That's what gets you the problems with autofocus because of the text being too high when loaded.
The feature you mention behaves exactly as you'd think it does and I have no problems with it. That's what I wanted. But maybe that feature should appear also when not editing and just clicking the link symbol besides comments (those that are coming from Bawl).
Bawl.userNameUnderscore
and Bawl.replyLinkParamsOpened.origReplyTo
? They should be identical, but I guess somehow for you they're not? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
03:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
To be absolutely clear: you double clicked a comment to open a reply form and the quote appeared. That's what happened?
Bawl doesn't really know where you are dragging from.
I'm not sure what you are describing here.
What do you expect to happen when clicking a link icon?
I can't figure out why you have thank buttons.
Uncollapse section when clicked in ToCdoesn't work in non-talkspace - it should - and comment highlighting after clicking the comment works in ninja mode - it shouldn't. (It should preserve the DT original highlighting behavior if those are active though + the fading one can choose to implement for them by the corresponding Bawl setting (?).) — Klein Muçi ( talk) 15:13, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
I think it might have happened even when just clicking the bubble icon after double clicking to get out of ninja mode.
The page will load and the comment will get autofocused but its text will be too high to be read properly.
Maybe you should get autofocused on the diff part of the page?
I'm suggesting the second option should be present even while not having edit forms opened.
Turns out I don't have them in every comment. I have them only in comments that aren't typed by Bawl.
and comment highlighting after clicking the comment works in ninja mode - it shouldn't.
the big arrow on the top of the page wrongly gets rendered pointing down even though all sections are closed
Selection should get cleared now when double clicking to perform an action.
Maybe you should get autofocused on the diff part of the page?
Should be fixed.
How? That link doesn't work until you post it.
Why not?
It's not done. At least for me nothing has changed.
Unfortunately it isn't.
I'm confused. Why doesn't the anchor link (am I right in calling it like that?) work until you post it?
pressing Esc could get you back to Ninja mode again. This could make moving between modes easier. What do you think?
Only for new links. Without Bawl they focus the diff area, with Bawl it tries to highlight the actual comment.
unloadedfor whatever reasons the user might have. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:28, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
the ninja mode could be used to allow for easier CD/Bawl switching on issues where parity could lack
it is easy to also picture users that wouldn't want the full package just for preference reasons
A certain user decides to use CD to reply to conversations just because it likes its interface but loves to use Bawl to edit articles
The big arrow appears to render correctly now but it doesn't function correctly. If you click it, it changes position horizontally but doesn't do anything. Then if you click it again, it works as intended.
An idea I've been entertaining for a while these days: Settings get introduced in abundance lately. Maybe we can guide users to newly added ones that they haven't seen yet?
already tagged users should be listed at the "bottom" alphabetically while untagged users should be listed alphabetically at the "top" of the list
"Uncollapse section when clicked in ToC" doesn't work in non-talkspace
Where? Can't reproduce.
All eight of them?
Will be fixed in next update.
For example, in this page. Ninja mode on, go on top of the page and click beside the page title to "break it". Click the arrow. It will do nothing beside jiggling a little horizontally. Click it again, it will rotate 45 degrees and start acting like it should.
I have to be on the lookout for everything that changes. New options to try out or new features that are introduced to understand if that is a regression, bug or a feature.
Tried it out but it still has problems for me.
Also, I tried the new function for quickly converting text to wikilinks. Can its function be extended to understand nonwiki links and add only 1 couple of brackets to them instead of two?
It doesn't care at all for the number of lines though
45 degrees? That's impossible, it rotates 90 degrees.
I made some changes, is this still an issue?
My brain was hardwired on 45 ever since you used used it for the heart.
You click it, it jiggles a bit and does nothing and then starts functioning like it should.
Uhm... The linquify function appears currently broken. :/
Also... Should we allow for individual uncollapse/collapse of subsections in different levels?
The heart only rotates 20 degrees when thanked.
What do you mean "broken"?
If you select something and click it, it doesn't put brackets. It just opens the link form.
Out of curiosity, what's up with Bawl and the main page? It doesn't seem to load there. That's good but I'm just curios what's going on behind the scenes.
a small ninja silhouette
Using CodeMirror?
Main Page is an odd exception, not sure what (if anything) to do about it.
No.
Strange bug: Some wikilinks now get underlined above instead of under (abovelined LOL) when hovered.
you can easily get all the Main pages from Wikidata and add them there.
That's really strange. I just can't reproduce it.
IF however you put a link of a wikipage (not a wikilink), Bawl gets confused and does nothing and opens the link form.
The same thing happens if for whatever reason you decide to linquify a wikilink ( link). You don't get your brackets doubled
For the underline bug, check the screenshot.
What if we include a blacklist mechanism for the public in which they can include links in it in where they don't want Bawl to fire up?
If you do.. what? I don't understand.
Actually you do.
And if you disable Bawl it's fixed? Are you sure Bawl causes this?
.BawlCancelBtn a:hover{border-color:#d73333 !important;color:#d73333 !important}
in your
m:Special:MyPage/global.css for the old behavior or enable the new option to style cancel buttons destructively.blacklist mechanism
PS: Maybe an icon can be utilized instead of words?
No, it is not apparently.
I removed the red color from the cancel button on hover, deviating from OO.ui like that was bugging me.
blacklist mechanism
You can't ctrl-f for an icon..
Done but it doesn't include namespace options. Or does it? Maybe you can utilize regex for that?
/^Category:/
Category:
would also work but would also match User:Category:example
which is in the user namespace.And regex can't be utilized on the mainspace which doesn't really have a name.
/^[^:]*$/
should match any title without a colon. Some mainspace titles do include a colon of course, so ^(?!Talk:|User:|User talk:|Wikipedia:|Wikipedia talk:|File:|File talk:|MediaWiki:|MediaWiki talk:|Template:|Template talk:|Help:|Help talk:|Category:|Category talk:|Portal:|Portal talk:|Draft:|Draft talk:|TimedText:|TimedText talk:|Module:|Module talk:|Gadget:|Gadget talk:|Gadget definition:|Gadget definition talk:|Media:|Special:).*
would be needed for better accuracy. I added a checkbox for mainspace.Even though it would be a rather spacious solution.
In it you get icons beside edits to accept or revert them and they also act as words and can be highlighted when Ctrl+F is used.
I think we need to slow down the highlight fading a bit.
If I can, should I be allowed to do that? If I should, can another word be found that is unique searching for which would allow me to list only the new settings?
Extra question: For how long does the flag stay on?
The unusual part starts when you actually delete the template parts and leave just the URL. Bawl will fail to work its auto-conversion magic
Can't reproduce.
An empty comment only including NOSIGN adds +1 level of indentation. I'm not sure the empty comment should add to indentation.
An empty new section form only including NOSIGN does nothing.
I always insert smileys without the nose. Do I really need the nose part for Bawl to detect them? Even with the new module about them?
┌──────────────────────────────┘
Also, I've mentioned this vaguely in the past but now I understand Bawl better to make a more clearer request:
I use User:Rummskartoffel/auto-watchlist-expiry to look after my watchlist. Would it be possible for Bawl to differentiate between "create" and "edit" (as it is in that script) and allow me to choose different behaviors for those two actions? I edit a lot of pages for maintenance reasons as an admin. I only want to have them watchlisted for a short amount of time, let's say 1 month. This is already doable with Bawl currently. I also happen to create some pages. I want them watchlisted forever. This is where Bawl stops helping. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
09:21, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
the button stays on forever saving all the options in that "account"
Something like, each setting has 2 tickboxes beside it for local and global and you choose where you want to save it.
Or maybe you can save them globally and be allowed to choose individual exceptions for individual settings...
The save button was "locked" on "account"
(Shouldn't there be an option to disable Bawl on phones altogether, just in case?)
I mean quickly changing list types or their indentation.
I also happen to create some pages. I want them watchlisted forever.
And this was a problem because?
The only way to access the global rank would be to go and make changes in another project where you have activated Bawl as well and you haven't set up any local preferences.
This is really cumbersome.
But, if I understood your explanation correctly, that behavior is not achievable technically. In that case there is not much we can do beside documenting the said behavior in a clear manner.
You can put as many local exceptions as you want with ease as well.
Out of curiosity, I'm repeating myself: Considering we have "browser settings", can't we also have "device settings", meaning to have Bawl behave differently in different desktop/mobiles?
This has forced me to turn Bawl "on and off" in most of my actions with it so I can do the needed subscription
The third one is encountered rarely in the live preview but it is the most technical message a user may get from Bawl, accentuated by it being a 1 uncapitalized word.
Link magic autoconversion doesn't work in subject and summary fields. Should it?
I have a feeling that you might have accidently lost track of the questions on your latest replies.
Did you try disabling "Hide subscription links from DiscussionTools if Bawl subscription links are enabled"?
For funky shit, see Funky Shit.
Probably a bug resulting from an undefined variable, but as I don't know how to reproduce this nothing I can do.
I'd only wish to be possible to automatically DT-sub to sections when I interact with Bawl.
it makes it hard to click the collapse/uncollapse arrow because it appears below the DT-(un)sub link.
During that time, we get that word and then it disappears. Not really a problem.
It only opens up for editing the last paragraph. I thought you should know.
In SqWiki the save button for settings is stuck at "account preferences"
Comment highlighting when clicked never fades until clicked again. Intentional?
What setting, if any, is prohibiting me to have permalink options in comments here
__NOEDITSECTION__
. Without section edit links sections can't be processed. Best fix for that would be to hide section edit links instead of not having them at all, but this is beyond my control.Maybe you shouldn't get ninja mode back in the cases when the reload is coming from Bawl
Jedi mind trick.
Should be fixed.
(If you meant deleting erase other LocalStorage items
The form is now frozen, the buttons are frozen and they accept no commands.
mw.storage.remove('Bawl');
mw.storage.remove('FTT');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','Bawl','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','FTT','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('globalpreferenceoverrides','Bawl','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('globalpreferenceoverrides','FTT','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-Bawl','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-FTT','');
{{#time:xNU}}
(1663162182). See
mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions. But as ParserFunctions and substitution don't work in summaries the value can't be added there.but I suppose they're not a lot
Do I have to do the console solution you described above or will the normal workflow work now?
Also, I don't know why but Factotum malfunctions in all talkpages in SqWiki now.
typeof FTT
on the browser console?Say, oh dear Morpheus, do you have any keyboard shortcut for jumping from section to section in a page?
or darkening colors
There's a list in the code
What is typeof FTT on the browser console?
Press ctrl+alt+k to take the red pill
done
Object. Well... Factotum does load with its icons and their functionality but the other problems are still there though. Upgrading global preferences here doesn't update them there either.
Question: Why K?
I think increasing a tiny bit the distance would be beneficial.
I was wondering... Maybe we can/should show the number of "thanks" received for something (if n > 0) somewhere near that thing for the user who received them, similar to how Facebook shows likes?
only having a number before the quoted text.
Okay, ctrl+alt+n it is.
The button at least says so. Preferences have been really strange lately. Even on the same project they don't get remembered many times. I need to re-save them a lot.
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-Bawl',''); <i>destroy account preferences
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-FTT','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('globalpreferences','userjs-Bawl',''); </i>destroy global account preferences
FTT.queueUpdatePref('globalpreferences','userjs-FTT','');
mw.storage.remove('Bawl'); //destroy browser preferences
mw.storage.remove('FTT');
The Ctrl+Alt+N one though acts weird in this page. It can't touch the last section for some reason.
can we please use Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down Arrow together (instead?)
If Ctrl+Alt+N is pressed, it starts at the top section of the current viewport and goes down from there.
enter to close/open a highlighted section
This is what I get in my talkspace in SqWiki. It is a lineless combination of Factotum and DT.
The summary/minor tick box are fixed but now they appear merged with the text field.
the big arrow on top doesn't show up at all (like in w:sq:Wikipedia diskutim:Kuvendi)
or it shows and doesn't work (like in w:sq:Përdoruesi diskutim:Liridon - the lines are back here though).
This is what I get in my talkspace in SqWiki. It is a lineless combination of Factotum and DT.
.ext-discussiontools-visualenhancements-enabled .ext-discussiontools-init-section:first-child
takes away the border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1;
. I have no idea why, the DT team probably had a reason. You have collapsible sections enabled in Factotum so the header is actually is the first child (of the section container) everywhere. As a result DT starts
cutting itself and now I need to write medication.This didn't happen until some days ago and this doesn't happen here
but I also get a Title section when replying comments as if I was creating new sections
The said function also highlights subsections. Should it?
does pressing Enter do anything in there?
I still have double stats though. Is there any way I can cut those back while retaining the reply link?
.ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar{display:none !important}
in
m:Special:MyPage/global.css. Alternative 2: use .FTTH2SectContainer .ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar{display:none !important}
which will hide DT's discussion activity ONLY in sections made collapsible by Factotum. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
16:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:698 This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "jquery.ui".
:::Please use OOUI instead.
:::mw.loader.implement.css @ load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:698
:::VM160:40 ext.popups was loaded but everything is disabled
:::(anonymous) @ VM160:40
:::load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:346 jQuery.Deferred exception: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'split') TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'split')
::: at https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:7686:82
::: at mightThrow (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:343:881)
::: at process (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:344:544) undefined
:::jQuery.Deferred.exceptionHook @ load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:346
:::load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:346 jQuery.Deferred exception: PRM is not defined ReferenceError: PRM is not defined
::: at FTT.movePreviewAbove (https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:5423:43)
::: at https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:6353:7
::: at mightThrow (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:343:881)
::: at process (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:344:544) undefined
Can't Alt2 be a feature in Factotum? Almost every other feature of DT is detachable within Factotum's settings.
Does this help?
ReferenceError: PRM is not defined
was easy enough to find in FTT.movePreviewAbove
. The reading 'split'
TypeError refers to FTT.stalkFoundContentSectionText not being a string. You probably didn't notice that one as it only affected subscription checking. I added a check that should make it skip an entry when this happens, but I can't troubleshoot the underlying issue. I'd need your subscriptions object for that. ( JSON.stringify(FTT.stalkGetSubs())
) It's likely caused by some talk page with funny markup or other oddities. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
19:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
I'd need your subscriptions object for that.
What would I need to do precisely for that?
JSON.stringify(FTT.stalkGetSubs())
Currently speaking, I use DT for screenshot-posts.
Maybe there is place for +1 more setting about DT/Factotum stats?
Maybe there are people who want to replace Factotum's stats with those from DT
While checking latest changes on SqWiki for maintenance purposes, I randomly stumbled upon this.
It's a copyfraud generator, that's what it is.
There is, it's in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and it's called "Show discussion activity".
<code>{"User talk:Alexis Jazz/Bawl":{"v":1661379770878,"c":1662917905046,"subs":{}},"User talk:Alexis Jazz":{"v":1661379795977,"c":1663513491062,"subs":{"Reports about Bawl":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1661125273016","u":1661124902865}}},"Wikipedia:Teahouse":{"v":1661300747102,"c":1661125323672,"subs":{}},"Wikipedia talk:EditNoticesOnMobile":{"v":1661127308212},"User talk:Trappist the monk":{"v":1661381683345,"c":1663488425506,"subs":{}},"Special:Contributions/Alexis Jazz":{"v":1661341785882},"User:Alexis Jazz/Bawl.js":{"v":1661332188831},"User talk:Taavi":{"v":1661255916495,"c":1663513491240,"subs":{"Majavahbot - autoarchiving not working?":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1661255906868","u":1661255769680}}},"Main Page":{"v":1661378282922},"Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)":{"v":1661380482447,"c":1663513490840,"subs":{"Section history":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663105742295","u":1663105327977},"DiscussionTools Beta Feature update":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663148086549","u":1663147777460},"Hitting the emailuser rate limit":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663150271602","u":1663149769048},"Google forms globally blocked?":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663242304926","u":1663242256236}}},"Wikipedia:Citemap.json":{"v":1661373577879},"Template:Cite web":{"v":1661375817016},"User talk:Klein Muçi":{"v":1661381117092,"c":1663513491075,"subs":{"Language parameter on sqwiki":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1661381173450","u":1661381117092}}},"User talk:BrownHairedGirl":{"v":1661381028355},"Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser":{"v":1661786045741,"c":1663513490843,"subs":{"AWB icon pulsating when it needs action":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1661786756355","u":1661786045741}}},"User talk:Xaosflux":{"v":1662138522960,"c":1663513490624,"subs":{"Time in WikiLove":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662138831944","u":1662138522960},"Test section 7:22 pm, Today (UTC+2)":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662142371956","u":1662142304713},"Inclusion confusion":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662638616030","u":1662638196908},"CSS help":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663255451804","u":1663255139818}}},"Talk:Fat-finger error":{"v":1662289007191,"c":1662289007191,"subs":{"Terminology":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662289851753","u":1662289007191}}},"User talk:Nardog":{"v":1662396062037,"c":1663513491065,"subs":{"QuickRollback script":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662396201263","u":1662396062037}}},"Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 9":{},"User:Rockstone35":{},"Wikipediocracy":{},"Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)":{"c":1663500757364,"subs":{"New essay: Wikipedia will exist in the far future":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662737401688","u":1662737316272},"Topic related help resources":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1662741224502","u":1662740139860},"Wikipedia should be redesigned into a much more user-friendly and dynamic site...":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663069836293","u":1663069113921}}},"Talk:Hofstede's cultural dimensions theory":{},"Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not":{},"Talk:Suicide":{},"Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates":{},"Special:Contributions/Klein Muçi":{},"Ecocentrism":{},"Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)":{},"Talk:Muhammad":{},"Equus (play)":{},"User:GreenC":{},"User:Klein Muçi":{},"User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)":{"c":1663513491069,"subs":{"Archiving notifications":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663068384346","u":1663064826302}}},"Template:Atops":{},"User:Qwerfjkl (bot)/code/8":{},"BawlSubInfo":1662905476123,"User talk:Alexis Jazz/Factotum":{"c":1663513491271,"subs":{"You messed up! (I AM ERROR)":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663061437784","u":1663061283732},"Feature request (20 August 2022, 09:47)":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663283755992","u":1663282789374},"Bug report ({{subst:#time:j F Y, H:i}})":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663367178759","u":1663366456418},"Bug report (16 September 2022, 22:26)":{"id":"Klein_Muçi:1663367178759","u":1663498735670}}},"User:Alexis Jazz":{},"Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)":{},"Ustanovka":{},"User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum.js":{},"Wikipedia:Make technical articles understandable":{},"A Dangerous Method":{},"Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests":{"c":1663513491239,"subs":{"Section history":{"id":"Klein Muçi:1663235802586","u":1663235378119}}},"Wikipedia:Don't use Grammarly":{},"User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/Mumbo jumbo":{},"Special:Watchlist":{},"User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum":{},"Suicide":{},"User:Klein Muçi/sandbox":{},"Traffic analysis":{}}</code>
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'length')
at FTT.smartTryNode (index.php?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:5842:117)
at FTT.smartLivePreview (index.php?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:5814:34)
at index.php?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:2181:47
at OO.EventEmitter.emit (<anonymous>:892:656)
at OO.ui.InputWidget.setValue (load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:563:108)
at load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:562:657
load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:698 This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "jquery.ui".
Please use OOUI instead.
mw.loader.implement.css @ load.php?lang=sq&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-widgets%7Cjquery.ui%7Coojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced&skin=vector&version=ctm4l:698
VM24:40 ext.popups was loaded but everything is disabled
(anonymous) @ VM24:40
VM52:1 This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "jquery.tipsy".
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-Bawl','');
FTT.queueUpdatePref('options','userjs-FTT','');
What is that red dot that appears?
Why does the source code appear SO messy?
Will ... help in that?
How exactly?
Can the browser search box (Ctrl+F) be made to search
I believe Factotum is not related to that but I'm not sure what might be affecting it.
This is while being in ninja mode so I suspect the autofocusing problem may be bigger than Factotum itself.
indicate with what part of text are we interacting with?
make the "Return to Factotum" magic link appear faster?
What red dot?
Longer answer: yes, but you wouldn't be able see the result so that's worse.
Try without Factotum. If issue persists, WP:VPT.
Can't reproduce. Try without Factotum. If issue persists, WP:VPT.
It isn't obnoxious enough as it is?
They seemed to be used as markers of some sort but I don't understand their function.
If that ^ could be paired
Do the titles appear bigger for you though?
We've got grey, black and colorful icon. Which one means which editor?
Is that normal?
which some systems/browsers render as red dots), but Factotum doesn't contain any (I just checked) so you maybe copy-pasted them from somewhere else? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
09:23, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
bug with the color tag icons
I suspect you've somehow made them start with the black one as a default one
Autosummary for (sub)section removal? For only adding link(s)/table(s)/image(s)? For only striking through content? For only mentioning someone? For only changing formatting of content?
But since that can't happen, having each wiki just localize their own messages, looks better than just having everything concentrated on a page that only a few people can edit.
window.FTTWikiMsgsObj
), but I'm not a big fan either. I've just further reduced these messages. Only three now typically need translation: "editing comment", "removed comment" and "editing references".Autosummary for (sub)section removal? For only adding link(s)/table(s)/image(s)? For only striking through content? For only mentioning someone? For only changing formatting of content?
Different colors
It just converts the three minus signs to four.
even superscript is "not supported"
Something that I might use though is a quote button that can turn selected text into a quote.
somehow warn them if they try to edit a comment to add a mention
PS: The pipe trick works a bit in an unusual way if you use it on permalinks on Factotum. Not sure if that is intended or if Factotum has anything to do with it as this is the first time using it.
Already supported as an undocumented keyboard shortcut: Ctrl+.
Use a custom insert.
I'd say to get away from Ctrl+/- as a combination altogethertell that to the VisualEditor devs, I nicked the shortcuts from them.
Would I need to use 2 of them? Can I do it with only one somehow?
{{tq|1=FTTCRT}}:<<quote>>
Try getting a permalink from a section with Factotum and post it here. At its end append |text .
I suspect this won't be a problem, at least for me, but is that intended?
Tell that to the VisualEditor devs, I nicked the shortcuts from them.
Not specifically. Not sure I should bother trying to fix it though. Could be useful too I guess.
I had declared the pipe thing a happy accident, didn't I? Guess it doesn't always work.
</>
when the 2010 editor is on looks more aligned to the right. Maybe it's an optical illusion because of the colors. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
09:04, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Check the big bubble and the pencil icons here: w:sq:Stampa:Cite book/doc
style="position:absolute; z-index:100; right:45px; top:-40px;"
. Not terribly much I can do about that. It can overlap with other stuff too. I'm not sure where this protected-icon is stored. The title doesn't localize, so probably not MediaWiki standard.section edit links in the live preview.
have the reply form immediately switch to editing (and vice-versa) if it is empty and I click the pencil?
Also, I may be just "seeing things"
After you managed to fix the reference problems with WP:VPT, I wonder if your collaboration with users there can fix other old problems as well which we've been forced to accept as unfixable.
Code Mirror being uncooperative;
Things being added by forms being un-undoable;
Permalink pipe trick failing;
To get the same length I hit the second Enter only once.
Rudimentary undo option added
User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/Custom inserts and replacements#Weird pipe trick
Try never hitting it twice.
Specific Ref-dropdown menu per sections
double the vertical space
doubt are not intended even though you say it is rudimentary.
When you click one of the text forms in the settings, all text forms expand.
Factotum's big pencil and speech bubble are again showing when source editing pages natively.
When clicking the magnifying glass for advanced options, pressing Esc doesn't close it individually anymore
Newly introduced sections don't get the Factotum header icons (link/bubble/pencil/bell) when the reparse happens.
There are times when the autofocus magic link fails to load. Is there any pro tip to force-trigger it?
Could be done as a module I suppose.
User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/Custom inserts and replacements#Bad habit of multiple newlines after a list
A revision was only saved every 10 seconds, no logic otherwise. It now also saves for various events.
Where/how/what exactly?
Is there a way to introduce comments in the text forms in the settings?
dragged and dropped
It doesn't work on basic copy-pasting;
It doesn't work on mentions done by the arrows beside comments;
It doesn't work on basic typing;
It doesn't work on replaced text from the replace function;
Usually I make use a lot of the undo/redo loop to see how something changes.
The loop is broken here.
What happens?
Is there a way to have the same functionality without having the buttons at all,
Check here: Special:Diff/1110925293#mw-diff-ntitle1 There's a screenshot.
Sometimes link autoconversion will give a full link enclosed in square brackets for me which "doesn't allow" for the weird pipe trick.
Some other times the underscore will get rendered as a literal underscore instead of working as a way to connect the words of the link's title.
It does look a bit like some form of correction is happening in the background as sometimes I'll get a switched to an
In regard to archiving, I'll keep needing a place to discuss about the features/details of Factotum's work
Only the move function has no toggle on its own.
You can now append a label (same syntax as button labels) which will be ignored.
/(^|\s)(http<s>?:\/\/[^\s\|]+)\|([^\s]+)/$1$2 TAILPIPETRICK$3/g:<<Weird pipe trick>>
Just ignore the "first x" stuff, it's complicated
Link, which editor are you using (2010/2017 wikitext/2017 visual), new screenshot
No reproduction steps
But I guess this is just Wikipedia:Regextypofix at work. (which you enabled) Should be reflected in the edit summary.
It would be SO AWESOME if I didn't have to track two pages for this.
Only the move function has no toggle on its own.
wrong
¡Muchos besos para ti!
Have I done it correctly:
"Just ignore the "first x" stuff, it's complicated"
2010 source code I suppose.
Link = any page
use the one here as an example
Apparently it happens with all diff links for me. Open a diff link of any kind from EnWiki or another wiki and copy paste the link in this page as a comment.
For example, I keep having the word problem switched to probablem. How is that a typo fix? Maybe is it trying to get "probably"?
<!-- dummy edit -->
which will vanish.The discussions may start getting out of subject though
That function is always on, no matter what you do.
I have it active on SqWiki where I am an admin and I see no changes.
The linked screenshot shows the 2017 wikitext editor though.
"the one here"?
Provide a sample link+surrounding text (if any), explain exactly what happens (what does "autoconversion will give a full link enclosed in square brackets" mean? what is the result?)
Try on some poor sap's user talk page.
because it gets conversed automatically
And I don't know why sometimes they get conversed and sometimes they don't.
I did. I still see nothing.
Well, that then. I haven't changed it and I suck at telling them apart.
You pressed the magnifying glass?
I'm talking about sitewide/partial blocks, reasons, etc.
everything seems to work now beside the loop.
You need more, go to Special:Block.
No reproduction steps.
Maybe a link should be provided for that then? (I am aware of the existing native one.)
Typo in User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum.js
Does it allow for custom time ranges?
Two problems:
</>
, and a cogg. ― Qwerfjkl talk 19:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
it worked on refs 1 and 3 once (or twice), but failed when I tried again.what if you press the edit marker next to a ref and after the form has opened you press the edit marker again? Note that with an open form you can press any reference edit marker, no need to close or reload the form. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 03:06, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
{
"hideArchived": false,
"editFullSection": true,
"dateLinksIconSection": true,
"dateLinksIconSectExtra": true,
"dateLinksIcon": true,
"thankLink": true,
"mobileMWCollapsible": false,
"discussionActivity": true,
"dateLinksLocalTime": true,
"cureDTBlueStreak": false,
"tosNag": false,
"pingDropDown": true,
"editNotice": false,
"overlayThreshold": "0",
"customSummary": true,
"quoteSelect": true,
"cI": {
"0": "%3Csyntaxhighlight%20lang%3D%22BAWLCRT%22%3E%3C%2Fsyntaxhighlight%3E%3A%3C%3Csyntaxhighlight%3E%3E",
"1": "%3Ccode%3E%3Cnowiki%3EBAWLCRT%3C%2Fnowiki%3E%3C%2Fcode%3E%3A%3C%3Ccodenowiki%3E%3E",
"6": "%7B%7Blnc%7CQwerfjkl%20(bot)%7CBAWLCRT%7C%7B%7BSubst%3ATIMESTAMP%7D%7D%7D%7D%3A%3C%3Clnc%3E%3E",
"7": "%3Csyntaxhighlight%20lang%3D%22%22%3EBAWLCRT%3C%2Fsyntaxhighlight%3E%3A%3C%3Csyntaxhighlight%3E%3E",
"8": "%2F%5E(%3F%3A%40%5C%5B%5C%5B.%2B%3F%5C%5D%5C%5D%2C%20)%3F%2F%2F%3A%3C%3C%3E%3E"
},
"cIThatRun": {
"0": "%2F%5E%5Cs*%5C%5B%5C%5B%3A%3F(.%2B)%5C%5D%5C%5D%5Cs*%24%2F%241%2F"
},
"cIThatRunCmt": {},
"monospace": true,
"pingText": "@[[User:PINGUSER|]], ",
"rewritunOther": "#wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea,.morebits-dialog input,#cat_a_lot_comment,#mw-movepage-table #wpReason input",
"runCIOther": "#wpSummary,.morebits-dialog textarea,.morebits-dialog input,#cat_a_lot_comment,#mw-movepage-table #wpReason input",
"stalkAddSubLinks": true,
"stalkAutoSub": true,
"stalkStoreInPrefs": true,
"markNewCmts": true,
"stalkAddCycleBtn": true,
"markNewCmtsSubbed": false,
"stalkMarkReadScroll": true,
"showRisky": true,
"shortcuts": false,
"editTheUneditable": true,
"theStranger": true,
"killswitch": false,
"recombineNowiki": true,
"watchlistexpiry": "+7 days",
"editorSwitch": true,
"saveTo": "accountprefs",
"markNewCmtsBorder": true
}
The chevron in it overlaps with the ref-title for me;
The drop-down actually overlaps with the text form above completely and I have no idea if what I'm seeing is the dropdown of references or the actual text (it needs some background color or some lines between entries I suppose);
Tested in the w:sq:Harry Potter article, NO reference at all gets highlighted from the dropdown.
Do you need to edit 1 reference to open it?
Opt-in to have it always there when editing sections/whole page?
you'd always see the full list of references, not just those within the section, ah! That's sad. I was hoping the contrary of that would be true. Only when full page editing then.
Some of them don't work (known limitations), but those that are named/have a URL/long number seem fine.
For example, only showing the author + year or something like that?
$('#mw-content-text ol.references>li')[0].querySelectorAll('.reference-text')[0].innerText.split(/\n/)[0].slice(0,120)
What happens with grouped references?
Also, would it be possible to somehow show the ones that have problems? Maybe color them red?
Something unique and easy instead of the long 120 character strings.
But if nothing better can be found, the string should at least end with an ellipsis.
They get highlighted for me now (Code Mirror was the problem apparently) but still not a single one gets autofocused.
The 2 buttons in the live preview are the only ones without a box when clicked though.
You'd rather have a list of numbers than a list that actually allows you to identify the reference?
But they ARE selected?
They were the only ones not using OOUI, now they do.
Couldn't they behave the same as the other buttons that only get outlined in a transparent small box when clicked?
Which is strange in my eyes as Factotum is really good at autofocus matters in general.
var a = setInterval(function(){
clearInterval(a);
FTT.UITextInput.selectRange(0,10);
},1000);
Try it yourself
that's even more cool BUT... I use the middle icons with the bar so there's still no solution for me.
I wonder why it works well for you. It does, no?
<span class="reference-text"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Stampa:Ouvrage&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Stampa:Ouvrage (nuk është shkruar akoma)">Stampa:Ouvrage</a></span>
. They get detected now./<ref name="UICN [0-9]+" \/>/g
and hitting "replace" without entering a replacement. Check the diff before you submit. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
22:57, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
That's apparently coming from Code Mirror being active on that namespace.
Do empty ref tags get detected as problematic as well?
Should Factotum do something when trying to edit references (or anything else really) in such cases:
w:sq:Stampa:UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group G/doc
How about fixing problems with the references in here: w:sq:Stampa:Cite book/doc (the examples)
CodeMirror now at least tries to scroll to the right line.
auto-disabled when trying to edit references as it happens when you're on other namespaces
Can they be?
Problems are usually failing to be marked in red
When saving ref-fixing edits, if working fast, Factotum will start getting confused and a notification popup will come up telling you about how the page was changed (by you)
Not sure if a bug but while editing you'll keep getting the pencils beside the references.
Would it be possible to somehow filter the references in the dropdown menu by the type of CS1 problem they have? It would be very helpful in category-cleanup initiatives.
Also after saving the edit, the pencil will fail to render beside the references until you reload the whole page
No link, no example, no nothing
Just ignore it.
Whatcha mean
The popup would be accompanying me in every edit or every two edits basically.
you'll see the pencils beside its references that normally would allow you to edit a certain reference (what you are already doing).
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 19:28, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to quickly thank users while in ninja mode. Basically a (sub)toggle for enabling thank-links in ninja mode. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 13:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found some persisting formatting issues.
Extra: Maybe AWB regex autoconversion is at play somehow in both those cases because it's also making me go crazy over "problem" switching to "probablem" in 1/3 of the times I type that word.
PS: This comment somehow got a "red dot character" in the empty line before "When". You can check it out yourself. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:53, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
every link I post is automatically
This comment somehow got a "red dot character" in the empty line before "When".
This has made the Enter key behavior so unpredictable
Now on normal text you need double enters for introducing 1 empty line
on lists (straight after them) has become impossible to introduce any empty lines
Extra: Maybe AWB regex autoconversion
<!-- dummy edit -->
which will vanish." — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
16:31, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
the text TAILPIPETRICK gets added momentarily which is the text I've put as "a comment" in the regex. Does that mean I've done it wrong?
it shows nothing for "probl" which is when usually an extra A is added
Alexis Jazz, when you replace text currently the screen just stays focused on the replace button and there's no way to find out what just happened. We need a way to find out what we're replacing/what was replaced. - Klein Muçi ( talk) 11:30, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Maybe small notices could be laid below/beside the replace buttons that say things like: Found X matches. or 1/10... 3/10... n/N or X replacements done
have a "back" button?
That requires attention to skip month names when they're not in date parameters and in doing that there are many occasions when I accidently skip valid matches as well.
/(date[ ]?=[^\|\}]+September/$1shtator/g
or something. Maybe make a little module that runs all twelve at the click of a button. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
02:20, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
ctrl+z
You should use a regex. Twelve regexes actually, like /(date[ ]?=[^\|\}]+September/$1shtator/g or something. Maybe make a little module that runs all twelve at the click of a button.
that's a bit sad because marking and counting are almost always present in find and replace features.
but there is one editor that has that functionality because I use that often.
Can you please switch order with the "next" button though?
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to have a back-to-the-headers arrow in the bottom of the settings. The lists in some headers have gotten a bit long lately. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:55, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
I'd like to have a back-to-the-headers arrow in the bottom of the settings.
Also, wouldn't it be better if we had all the mobile related settings in a Mobile header located to the left of Advanced?
Don't think so, there aren't that many and several are children.
add a tooltip to it?
And I also have a feeling you personally will want to make more mobile oriented changes in the near future.
Could you please stop saying "we"? You haven't learned JavaScript yet.
Can we also add a tooltip to it?but that just means "Could you also add a tooltip to it?".
Your contributions, along everything else on Wikipedia, belong ultimately to everyone.
To help alleviate this effect, many people, including me, excluding you, start addressing the abstract entities
trapped, you need a break. Mine and other's request can wait for when you feel ready to deal with them. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 03:30, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
There is no deadline.
Alexis Jazz, I was checking around to see what has a toggle and what doesn't and much to my surprise I found out that everything does. That's really impressive and it adds value to the modular functionality of Factotum. Inspired by that, I was checking what has a keyboard shortcut and what doesn't and there were quite some but I think some more might be added as well.
Shortcuts in regard to linking/subscribing/editing/replying/thanking, (maybe ctrl+alt+up/down navigates between sections and ctrl+alt+left/right navigates between the header icons in that section + Enter for enabling/disabling - I found myself trying to do that instinctively a couple of times - not sure how you can replicate that behavior with individual comments though..) Finding and Replacing (maybe Ctrl+F), moving and archiving (maybe Ctrl+M and Ctrl+A), collapsing/uncollapsing the ToC+navigating it, switching editors, viewing edit notices (?) using the 2 buttons to scroll to the next unread comments (user Qwerfjkl might be interested in this) opening settings (! - this would free us from having to go through all those extra steps to get to it) and especially a way to navigate between all Factotum's "buttons". For example, surfing from one templated answer to another, from the magnifying glass to the cog and then to individual settings below. (Maybe the first 9 autoinserts can be tied to the 9 number buttons in the keyboard?) The navigation detail starts to get more value as more shortcuts are introduced. If you manage to go somewhere with the shortcut, you want to be able take a right/left turn or go one floor above/below where you are and reach for that element you're looking for (and not have to go for the mouse/touchpad).
PS: Enter for enabling/disabling isn't mentioned anywhere on the keyboard settings. I know that currently it serves for collapsing/uncollapsing sections but that behavior is hidden knowledge. If it gets introduced in more navigating routes, I think it should be shared with the public. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:38, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
ctrl+alt+left/right navigates between the header icons
Finding and Replacing (maybe Ctrl+F)
moving and archiving (maybe Ctrl+M and Ctrl+A),
collapsing/uncollapsing the ToC+navigating it
switching editors
viewing edit notices
using the 2 buttons to scroll to the next unread comments (user Qwerfjkl might be interested in this)
opening settings (! - this would free us from having to go through all those extra steps to get to it)
and especially a way to navigate between all Factotum's "buttons". For example, surfing from one templated answer to another, from the magnifying glass to the cog and then to individual settings below
Enter for enabling/disabling isn't mentioned anywhere on the keyboard settings.
is broken
you can't reach the DT subscription bell.
However, when you want to press Enter to act on one of the headers you will have to release Ctrl+Alt or else it won't work.
Ctrl+Shift+Up(P)/Down(N)-left/right
Adjusted, all links in the header should now be reachable.
Occupado.
When you're in ninja mode, you can get to Latest comment.
When you're not in ninja mode, you can't get to Latest.
Sad. I'll be happy with whatever combo you choose though, if you do choose something. And I'm greatly looking forward to something for the settings.
Why J and L? Any meaning?
...they are roughly between N and P, and J is left of L.
How else will you collapse/uncollapse?
You can comment-scroll in collapsed sections in a hidden way
You can't reach the reply link beside comments when you have that setting on.
You can't comment-scroll at all with the keyboard when locator links are present. Is that the right word? What you get when you follow a notification and the page opens with a long link and a highlighted comment.
you get a magic link to return to Factotum which does nothing.
Tab-scrolling on settings works in a weird way.
I can't find this hidden way.
You can tab to it. DT is in a different element.
...but what you describe I can't reproduce.
You'll notice that you don't go from the first section to the second one as you'd expect
because comments "have been moving on the background".
Can't the same solution that was applied to the subscribe bell be used here as well?
… See if it makes a difference.
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: Every time I use the top blue buttons in this page and I press "Send", the request goes through but my browser has started getting confused lately and it asks me if I am sure I want to reload the page without saving.
Because of that ^ it will remember my text and if I click those buttons again ask me if I want to restore it or start a new one. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
12:44, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to "refresh" (restart) the live preview by double-clicking it. There are times when it freezes and I have to click the button between the red and blu buttons below to restart it (I'm not sure about its name in English, maybe something similar to "Check changes"?). I can also achieve the same functionality by untoggling and toggling it back on. But many times I find myself instinctively double-clicking it, hoping to make it refresh and so I thought to request it as a feature. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 13:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, there are a lot of help pages which make use of the formula "search the archives before starting a new topic". I don't know if Factotum can provide any help in those cases. Somehow doing a rudimentary search and stopping/linking you to the old discussion if what you're about to ask already exists/has answers in the past. I wanted to ask this as a feature but I thought it might not be possible because of the complexity of the matter so I thought I'd just write it here mostly as food for thought. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:38, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, MAYBE you are interested in this: m:User talk:Klein Muçi#c-ESanders (WMF)-20220930121700-Update to commentlinks.js gadget. That is a script I've been using for a long time and in the last 2 months I've used it in conjunction with Factotum. They've worked nice together up until this point. In v2, clicking the speech bubble or the pencil beside comments also activates that script which automatically copies the comment link in the background. I can always use v1 so it's not a big deal but I thought you'd be interested in knowing anyway because that behavior may very well be the way DT will evolve to and providing some parity could be beneficial in the long run. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 12:43, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 10:22, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, open a comment to edit, click the diff button. The live preview changes to offer the diff. You're kinda stuck there. Clicking the diff button again doesn't remove it. Pressing Esc, doesn't remove it. You're only option is to restart the live preview to get out of it. Also, if you don't get out and you start typing instead it starts behaving weird. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 16:46, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, 3 issues in regard to settings:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:40, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
A regression has happened and the filter no longer exists;
you basically try to get to the settings and instead get the shortcut table.
How would people know something was "unlocked" somewhere when you activated the advanced settings?
works for me
Done, expert/dangerous settings are now marked with orange/red blocks.
For me it's just not there anymore, simple as that. I can post a screenshot if you think that would help.
Maybe instead of adding blocks, the text itself could be orange/red?
what unlocked where
Please do.
Using triangle now.
Well whatcha gonna do
$('#FTTFilterSettings')
on the browser console and see if you can find it and tell me whatever you can figure out. You're also missing $('.FTTCreditTop').Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: I can't collapse almost any sections on mobile. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:18, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
So, first of all I'm not exactly sure how to safely escape ninja mode in mobile without activating anything else. If you have any tips, let me know.
The said problem happens inevery possible page(doesn't happen in the talkspace)
(I have a feeling a setting exists somewhere to solve that.)
but I still have double pencils. :-/
How can I send a new copy of them?
And it should have more autonomy from the desktop version.
I also feel really anxious with ninja mode enabled
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"just make every feature with a mobile-toggle"
but I'm too afraid to walk that road
Just retried. Also, why haven't you given us yet the toggles you already created for mobile?
I get just that but not its children. Still working on it or is that a syntax bug?
have a toggle for that behavior?
As a side note, the little comments' chevrons on talk pages don't do their job either.
There already is
How/where/when? Got an open form in the section?
Uhm, you mean Collapse all non-talk page sections by default?
Can you please add a toggle to remove the button for showing edit notices for mobile?
What else?
for collapsed sectionsbut they never show for me now. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 10:06, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: My global preferences appear to suddenly have been completely forgotten. Factotum has randomly returned in factory settings for me. :-/ — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:02, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
mw.user.options.get('userjs-FTT')
return? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
12:58, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Some side buttons for import/export? (Copy/Import)
Import from where?
...you can click the text field now to copy.
This is already a super-niche feature...
They get "imported" and the form clears itself out signifying that the importation was completed.
You can remove the side buttons and make them auto-copy on click.
Is it?
window.localStorage.setItem('FTT',newsettings);
. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
19:56, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: live preview and its toggles are broken for mobile. The live preview actually doesn't work at all, it stays blank. When clicking the right angle toggle, its behavior starts becoming very erratic. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Please see sections at:
This happens on every Wikipedia article page, this doesn't seem to happen without having Factotum enabled. -- Donald Trung ( talk) 07:20, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly) I couldn't post the comment.
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Klein Muçi ( talk) 08:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, given that we have a back to top button now it is only logical to also want a hit the bottom button, no? — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:00, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, I found this issue: JS error when opening settings while on your contributions' page.
VM202:586 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'toggle')
at FTT.toggleExtraOptions (index.php?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:7774:89)
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— Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
FTT.settingToggleInt
on the browser console? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
22:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, check your latest archiving moves. Check the auto-summaries. They've started adding some html elements. I don't know if that is intended or not. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:37, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, what happens if I increase the number at Maximum subscription object size (KiB)? Let's say I go for 999999999.
This is a twofold question. First comes the genuine part where I really don't know what happens if that number changes. What effects would I get in my browser or anywhere else? And secondly, should there be a kind of limit somehow? From the text form it looks like you can go on forever and no limit exits either on text amount, string type or on the number size itself. The same thing also happens on other text forms in the settings. Because of the lack of such limits/filters, it took me a while to understand how the background image text form worked. I wasn't sure what kind of link it accepted as it seemed to eat everything I fed it first. I was thinking it would accept titles from Commons. (I'm not sure if that can be a feature on its own or not.) That feature totally rocks by the way! Having Nyan cat GIFs as background while working on Wikipedia is the raddest thing I can think of currently. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:29, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
(I'm not sure if that can be a feature on its own or not.)
So other than Factotum's subscriptions what is localStorage used for in everyday life?
localStorage
on your browser console on various sites. (contents are set per domain)What would be a sensible size to keep it? The default one?
what if you add an option to automatically use the image of the day from Commons or EnWiki or the local one for the user (if it has one)... Anything that would refresh the background daily.
Also I think a toggle for mobile would be a good idea here as well.
what if you add an option to automatically use the image of the day from Commons or EnWiki or the local one for the user (if it has one)... Anything that would refresh the background daily.
Alexis Jazz, please can you add some minimal padding around the text form and the different elements that show when editing/replying to something on mobile? Not being able to see the outlines clearly feels bad for my eyes. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 22:29, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
can the formatting icons be below the text form?
So many pencils (and other icons) in the same place...
live preview doesn't obey to those dimensions
You really don't want that. On a narrow screen you need to use both the space above and below the form to avoid things from getting crowded.
I remember having activated something about suppressing the native icons, no? Shouldn't that include that small pencil below as well?
Also, can't the Factotum's 2 pencils be organized in a bit different way in the mobile mode that would allow easier understanding of what does what?
having those icons there in my case would be beneficial I believe.
Unrelated, but it looks like the link form insertion icon has become gigantic in desktop while the editor changing one has become microscopic.
Live preview has another problem in mobile: The text in it doesn't wrap around, choosing instead to forever continue on a straight line on the right.
"Hide Minerva's native section edit markers", the native pencil you see is to edit the full page.
Also, can't the Factotum's 2 pencils be organized in a bit different way in the mobile mode that would allow easier understanding of what does what?
How?
... I noticed the buttons weren't all the same height when framed, so I made adjustments. Should be all fixed now.
Are you entering lots of text without spaces?
when using a custom background, the aforementioned 3 buttons only get 1/3 of their body in the said background
Can't that option be changed to include even that? :P
They are but the text in the Cancel/Preview/Send buttons is gigantic now.
Yes. When doing so, the text in the text form warps but in the preview it doesn't.
This is my current setup. I love it. I was just wondering if those 4 icons could somehow be arranged beside the cog, in that space that exists there.
.skin-minerva #FTTOverlay #FTTButtonBarRight{clear:none !important}
in your common.css. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
23:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
DT handles this no better. Actually worse as the overflow becomes completely inaccessible. (where in Factotum you could at least scroll) Anyway, fixed.
You could put .skin-minerva #FTTOverlay #FTTButtonBarRight{clear:none !important} in your common.css.
Alexis Jazz, I'd like to be able to suppress identic edit notices if I've already seen them in a short amount of time. For example, article A has the X edit notice, article B has the same edit notice and so does article C. If I edit all the three articles in short amount of time (you decide on that), I want the X edit notice to popup only the first time. — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:13, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
User:EpicPupper,
User:Qwerfjkl, I've just created {{
BCL}}. Qwerfjkl, add a {{
BCL|type=section|alt=none}}
(or whatever parameters you see fit) to whatever templates are substed to create CfD and your problems should be solved.
EpicPupper, I wanted to fix various open issues before exposing Bawl to a wider audience. The important stuff I wanted to fix is fixed now. For The Signpost, in theory replacing the contents of
Wikipedia:Signpost/Template:Signpost-article-comments-end with the contents from
Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Signpost-article-comments-end/sandbox should theoretically do it.
There are still open tasks, but nothing major, mostly timestamp detection in some languages (like, projects in other languages, the detection is flexible enough to detect more than English but not every language works) and translations of the settings. The title attribute should be set on all buttons for the visually impaired and someone experienced with screen readers should test it, which is not me.
The bad news: something happened today, something I don't want to share. Whatever you imagine it is, it probably isn't, but it scared me and I recognized what it was. No point in worrying, praying or being concerned: there's nothing you can do. If this wasn't a non-recurring event, something I can't say for sure yet, I may stop responding at some point. As I have no intention of leaving the project without saying I'm OK, you should assume I'm not OK if I'm completely inactive without explanation for more than a month. I hoped for Bawl to be a gadget someday, not sure if that'll happen now, but Bawl should have more maintainers. It's no good for a tool to be completely dependent on a single developer. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
11:43, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
@
Jack who built the house: with Bawl nearing (once again, hopefully for real this time) a stable release, it's about time I asked. Bawl and ConvenientDiscussions have a largely overlapping goal but achieve it in quite different ways.
The two aren't particularly compatible and I don't think there's any point in trying to achieve that. But in other areas we could perhaps try to be compatible. For example, Bawl uses the same method/format as CD to link another comment in the same discussion. (inserting an anchor)
Maybe there are other things that could be taken advantage of. For example, CD could possibly use Bawl's locators when generating permalinks. (see my signature) Maybe you have some ideas? — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
19:13, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
YYYYMMDDHHMM_Author[_Number]
) when a corresponding DT ID was not found for the comment.On my talk page, I see a subscription button. As I already receive alerts when somebody edits it, this button is not needed. When copying permalinks, I would like to copy a Special:Permalink/ID link, not an URL. Is this possible? How can I remove the violet background when replying? There is no The last used option for Default editor for comments and new sections. How can I translate the interface of Factotum? And is there any way to make Factotum look like Discussion Tools, but in the same time keeping the features of Factotum? Although I think that Factotum is overall better than Discussion Tools, I prefer the UI of Discussion Tools. — -- NGC 54 ( talk| contribs) 11:06, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
On my talk page, I see a subscription button.
When copying permalinks, I would like to copy a Special:Permalink/ID link, not an URL. Is this possible?
How can I remove the violet background when replying?
There is no The last used option for Default editor for comments and new sections.
How can I translate the interface of Factotum?
And is there any way to make Factotum look like Discussion Tools, but in the same time keeping the features of Factotum?
Alexis Jazz, some issues which I'm not sure if they're bugs or not (or even related to Factotum per se):
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 01:38, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
On the desktop version I don't get Factotum on the main page. I do get it on the mobile version though. Why?
When changing language for an article on the mobile version, I'm not on the mobile site anymore (.m...). Is that related to Factotum?
Consider this workflow.
On my cellphone
I search for Wikipedia on Google.
I hit the "Back" button to go back
but on many occasions that closes Wikipedia altogether and sends me back to the Google search results.
This is not what I was trying to achieve.
Is this related to Factotum?
Can it do anything in that regard?
(Does Factotum interact with any of the apps by the way?)
And my mobile keeps crashing 1/3 times when I try to test Factotum.
Going out of the mobile site is another thing which I believe language changing isn't the only case.
In regard to domain names vs Google searches... Why? Genuine question.
Not an actionable report.
I must first wait for Factotum to load which takes a couple of seconds (unlike the desktop behavior)
At this point I'm forced to remember that I must view an edit notice popup first.
At this point I'm forced to remember that I must view an edit notice popup first.
because every namespace has its editnotices where it explains what is going on and where you are.
The text still does no wrapping whatsoever. It goes on forever on the right in a straight line.
getComputedStyle($('#FTTPreviewBox')[0])['word-break']
getComputedStyle($('#FTTPreviewBox')[0])['word-wrap']
. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
13:30, 9 October 2022 (UTC)mw.util.addCSS('#FTTPreviewBox *{word-wrap:break-word}')
mw.util.addCSS('#FTTPreviewBox{word-break:break-word}')
mw.util.addCSS('#FTTPreviewBox{overflow-wrap:break-word}')
Alexis Jazz, Factotum's mobile testing is soon coming to an end for me. I don't know if I can help a bit with logged out testing. I remember you asking me some time ago to test something in incognito. I'm not totally sure how would a logged out user use Factotum but if it can, please let me know how exactly to help and I'd be eager to do so. If you'd like that.
When that time comes, which will be in the next couple of days I suppose, I will most likely do 1 final test and see whatever old issues might have persisted and go on to try the existing modules for a while.
Meanwhile some other issues:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 16:58, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm not totally sure how would a logged out user use Factotum but if it can, please let me know how exactly
The arrows in settings should be a tiny bit darker I believe.
What if some space is introduced between the navigating arrows and the rest of the icons?
Only things I can think of are introducing even more collapsing functionalities and headers in there.
Would probably be worse.
Factotum. (period) Intentional?
if the section's title isn't too long (and in most cases it isn't)
and there is space to introduce new ones
Load, Interface and Editing have no clear as crystal identity and they could be potentially merged if we so wished
But do what you think is the best yourself.
Alexis Jazz, some days ago we talked about testing and changing the mail text for notifications. I'm not sure if you ever did make changes to it but it does look basic in content as it currently is.
I'm guessing you already know how a typical Wikipedia email looks in these occasions. Can you make the text template be more similar to it? — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:09, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, put some text in a text form. Decide that you actually have a perfect templated answer for that case. Select the whole text and click the said templated answer hoping to replace it. Be disappointed when the replacement doesn't happen and the templated answer just gets added to the existing text.
Can that be "fixed"? — Klein Muçi ( talk) 09:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
<code><nowiki>FTTCRT</nowiki></code>:<<CODE>>
custom insert which surrounds selected text would break.{{FAQ}}DESTROYUNIQSTARTFTTCRTDESTROYUNIQEND:<<click me>>
combined with a regular expression like /DESTROYUNIQSTART[^]*DESTROYUNIQEND//
. (need to hit submit or preview for the selected text to actually disappear) — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
09:31, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
line 1091: widget not foundUncaught Error: Widget not found
—
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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—
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
at OO.ui.Element.static.unsafeInfuse (load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.discussionTools.init%7Cjquery%2Coojs-ui-core%7Cjquery.ui&skin=vector-2022&version=tgn0i:445:739)
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Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 16:54, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 08:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
<small>...</small>
(or maybe just an isolated case).— Qwerfjkl talk 21:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
'''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I. Ellsworth</span>]]''''' , [[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]] [[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'r there</sup>]] <small>23:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)</small>
—
Qwerfjkl
talk
06:12, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
~~~ <small>~~~~~</small>
and I apply that by use of
TemplateScript (awesome).
See line 23.
P.I. Ellsworth ,
ed.
put'r there
23:37, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
<a href='/info/en/?search=User:USER'>​</a>
?)
Extra: Code Mirror compatibility issues. I know, I know. Only included here because I use CM a lot. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
10:25, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
My plan was to activate Factotum on Meta as a global script after this list was exhausted
This "FinalFinalFinal" wasn't going to be the last either.
You're right on that. The plan was to have some more reporting in regard to anonymous usage as well, as I've said.
From one side you want to increase user usage numbers but from the other side you want your involvement with the project to die.
Let's say you had 200 users. Don't you think you'd get even more requests that would require your involvement?
One way to resolve that paradox would be to have new developers join in as part of those 200 users but that would just mean you want help - which is only human - not that such requests are problematic per se.
I'm also sad to read this. I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do.
Extra: Code Mirror compatibility issues. I know, I know.You know, so why'd you ask? I declined more than once. Yet you just keep asking. Allowing CM to be loaded at all may have been a mistake. — Alexis Jazz ( talk or ping me) 04:21, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
which will have a scrollbar on its own. At least for me.
In the past you've textually asked me to refrain myself for asking for changes on features Factotum relies upon. This is again part of your shifted attitude.
What links can I possibly send about me not knowing where to locate the ref-insertion-form anymore?!
but that harms the overall user experience.
Take the supposed talk-page flag for example. If that was a thing I'd use FTT even more freely that I'm currently using, not being worried that I may be "stepping on mines", because "mines" would have flags on them. Now I am.
/(<syntaxhighlight[^>]*>([^<\n]*|<(?!\/syntax))*)\n/$1/g
seems to work, may need to enter that multiple times to be sure to catch everything.Quickly disabling it on mobile?
Masquerading as DT?
You don't talk with terms that involve "graves" and "torture" because you're not coerced to do something here, either by force or by economical reasons.
or in having too many bug tickets for bugs that actually were there
(you've thanked us in the summaries for each one of them)
You dangled a carrot in front of me - becoming a gadget on sqwiki, reaching a stable state - for weeks or months. Every report was the final report. And I was stupid enough to believe it every single time.
Every report was the final report.- The FinalFinal thing was a running gag I was trying to make to alleviate pressure. The idea was that after every dev-sprint you (and me) participated, there would be 1 final post and since there would be 3-5 sprints in total, at least in my mind (one for desktop, one for mobile, one for modules, one for IP-editing, one for other tools/projects interaction), the FinalFinalFinal name would be increasing the repetitions similar to the meme of how students (and scholars) name their papers in Microsoft Word sometimes Final.doc, FinalFinal.doc, TheFinalest.doc, FINAL.doc...
And I was stupid enough to believe it every single time.- This is wrong. There is no lie involved. I will set it up as a gadget in my homewiki soon. That's not to make you feel better about your work, that's just because of a basic necessity: We (and I believe other projects as well) need such a tool. This has happened in the past as well and it will happen again because that's what most of my wikiwork consists of.
For me too, fixed.
If people want to ban other people from using #tag or whatever other code on their talk page, they can deploy an edit notice.
and also deactivate FTT from me on that page
mw.loader.load('//en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
on the browser consoleOf course, you can add certain pages to the blacklist ("Never load Factotum when page title matches") when asked if you really want.
And what does "not persistent" mean in this case?
Would this work to limit it to SqWiki: w:sq:Harry Potter?
What about: w:sq:User talk:Alexis Jazz (combination of "sq" + English terms)?
the auto-DT sub and the resolved/unresolved states.
FTT.processElementArray[FTT.PRMOpened.pageTitleInt].parentElement.querySelectorAll('.ext-discussiontools-init-section-subscribeButton .oo-ui-icon-bellOutline')[0].click()
and putting it in a beforeEditFunc of a module. Making it work across all skins and in all situations will be more work. If anyone wants Factotum to actually utilize DT features (Factotum has zero dependencies on DT and that's not going to change), they'll have to load a module. Or fork the project. Don't ask me for this again. — Alexis Jazz (
talk or ping me)
13:03, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
I'll ask for your help in setting it up as a gadget in our project
Is Factotum useful on a desktop browser or is it made for the mobile app? Nythar T. C 06:55, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
After the nomination process finishes, the Academy gets together to discuss the entries and selection process, then they individually review the nominated tools, and finally there is a last meeting where the Academy reconvenes and discusses the nominations to finally assign the awards in a variety of categories.— Qwerfjkl talk 16:15, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
As I said,
it's been a while I've been using Factotum globally. I haven't seen any misbehavior with any of my current gadgets/scripts and I doubt I will because most of them are only active on SqWiki for me and I've been using Factotum there for months.
I was trying to activate the
AltRefModule and the
POTDModule but I'm kinda confused. In POTDModule you say: To load the POTD from another wiki, either put window.FTTPOTDDomain in your common.js with the desired domain (e.g. "en.wikipedia.org") or set that domain in the custom background field.
Can you tell me explicitly what I need to change to have the EnWiki POTD? Also, in regard to AltRefModule, I just need to copy-paste the code in my .js userpage and edit a section (with the pencil) that has references from an article to see it in action, right?
I was testing Factotum in different projects I'm active and I couldn't spot any problems except for one that maybe was to be expected. Factotum completely loses it
here. —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
02:35, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
Can you tell me explicitly what I need to change to have the EnWiki POTD?
I just need to copy-paste the code in my .js userpage
except for one that maybe was to be expected.
window.FTTPOTDDomain = 'en.wikipedia.org';mw.loader.load( '<i>en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/POTDModule.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' );
(or enter "en.wikipedia.org" in the custom background field in your settings).Also, can you check the icons' sizes again?
mw.loader.load( 'en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/POTDModule.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); window.FTTPOTDDomain = 'en.wikipedia.org';
for esthetic reasons but I'm not sure if it works or no. Then I tried entering this: mw.loader.load( '//en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum/POTDModule.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); window.FTTPOTDDomain = 'commons.wikimedia.org/';
but it didn't work. Is that normal as well? -
Klein Muçi (
talk)
17:28, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Actually most modules could be installed like any other script, including POTD and AltRef.
window.FTTPOTDDomain = 'en.wikipedia.org';
doesn't matter. Also it works for Commons as well but I should have waited a bit longer. At least it worked when I put it at Meta. Nothing works if you put it in the custom background field in the settings though. I tried multiple times with multiple domains (EnWiki, FrWiki, EsWiki, Commons) and it didn't work.POTD
the image gets rendered sometimes in the left, sometimes in the right, depending on the domain, not on the middle. Maybe that's intended... —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
21:59, 19 October 2022 (UTC)It has some problems in overlays (chevron + icons below) but maybe that is to be expected?
Are you suggesting you're unable to understand my questions about POTD?
Nothing works if you put it in the custom background field in the settings though
window.FTTPOTDDomain
, if set, overrides the custom background domain setting. The domain to set would be "fr.wikipedia.org", not "FrWiki".Maybe that's intended...
Also, can you check the icons' sizes again?
You're not loading the POTD module on enwiki. How did you expect it to work?
AltRef is now fixed. Long references are always truncated, there is no full version of them showing on hover and the overlap with the chevron always happens in these cases but I suppose all this is "intended" so...
Ooh! So even the insertion of the domain in the settings is still part of the module? I've misunderstood you then.
Even if I put gibberish there, the icons will still change form. Can something be done about this case? Either make them only change when something is really working or create a sort of notification that tells you that the value you entered makes no sense.
/static/images/project-logos/enwiki.png
and ../..//static/images/project-logos/enwiki.png
and /favicon.ico
are valid.Lastly, out of curiosity, these 2 modules now currently work fine and they don't bite or change the native functions in any way, only add to them. Why not have them as native functions? I'm just asking to understand how you feel about these cases in general when modules can become maturated enough to be introduced in the main code.
I added some ugly imperfect hack for the chevron..
At
Special:PageHistory/Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 15, you'd find two summaries that go, →1.13 Palindromes that link to Palindrome:
, →1.4 Joe Trudeau:
Here, the section number as per TOC is applied to the summary. Because of this, clicking on it does not take us to the correct section. I think something needs fixing. Thanks! —
CX Zoom[he/him] (
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08:59, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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Qwerfjkl talk 20:07, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
window.FTTjskitty = 1;
in your common/global.js. That does actually help to find bugs, but could be inconvenient sometimes.Once I select the main input box for text (the body), I can't deselect it. Attempting to focus/click on any other element on the page fails, and refocuses on the input box. — Qwerfjkl talk 21:34, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Javascript Error
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Alexis_Jazz/Factotum.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript at line 13368: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'style')
@
Alexis Jazz, you mentioned earlier that you couldn't interact with the input when syntax highlighting was enabled, so used .toggle()
instead. Does
this help? —
Qwerfjkl
talk
11:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
So I read your instructions for gadget-conversion and they are rather exhaustive so I do not expect to have a lot of problems with the process itself. However, before I continue, I have some questions/requests:
— Klein Muçi ( talk) 13:05, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Where do these 2 options differ from each other?
dateLinksLocalTime has the word customize in square brackets. Should that word be translated?
Currently I've done only ~40 out of ~400 so unfortunately it will take a while.
I was told it was rather risky or impossible
I also asked for a way to at least open the whole page but have the line I wanted to edit highlighted but it was said that currently that was impossible without making changes to the Scribunto extension.
Also I just noticed that modules have stopped working
,'sq'
to the line that says if ( ['nl','de'].indexOf(FTT.userLang) != -1 ) {
, after ,'de'
. This is also included in
User:Alexis Jazz/Factotum.js but beware that (mostly thanks to Qwerfjkl below) some serious changes were made that could introduce some new bugs. Reference highlight, custom inserts and markup should be tested in all editors (source, VisualLight and 2010wikitext in source/codemirror/codeeditor mode) which of course I did but I could have missed things. On the flip side, these changes grant most of your CodeMirror wishes.FTT.msgsObj.mul.reminder
to find a handful of entries that need translation for that. As Memoria is a module, it should be possible to split it right away. Memoria needs to be available while Factotum loads though, but I guess I could add a check to allow it to load after Factotum has already loaded.Also, if nothing is entered as a custom background on the settings can the POTD button disappear?
I don't know where you get your line numbers, none of them make sense to me.
you need to at least add 'sq'
On the flip side, these changes grant most of your CodeMirror wishes.
some serious changes were made that could introduce some new bugs. Reference highlight, custom inserts and markup should be tested in all editors
You press alt+i and the main text input gets focus.
if ( ['nl','de'].indexOf(FTT.userLang) != -1 ) {
but I don't see that line at all. Or even parts of it. Maybe you've rewritten it somehow? —
Klein Muçi (
talk)
19:50, 1 November 2022 (UTC)What is the main text input?
[[User:John Doe|]],
" in it.I updated both js pages but the translation isn't showing yet.
I don't see that line at all.
By the way, is this the correct way to go about this? It seems a bit clunky... I mean, all languages loading all languages while also being able to edit only their version...
Am I to understand that there shouldn't be a label at all there and instead we should be using the TranslateWiki version (which for the moment doesn't exist)?
But that should be a completely different message in Albanian.
I should get completely different messages
do we really need a message for that?
is there any reason for that behavior?
__NONEWSECTION__
. —
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
?safemode=1
? —
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
I think the focusing selectRange() bug still occurs when editing references.
Also, I should probably create a new screenshot sometime. I remember you saying the last one was too wide - how wide would you like it? —
Qwerfjkl
talk
21:56, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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House Blaster talk 16:22, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz, you messed up! (possibly)
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