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Hi @ Maproom:. Hope you are well. Can I ask for your 'English' help with Denise Stephens. I'm reviewing for a dyk but think it needs a little tidy and grammar polishing. What do you think? Whispyhistory ( talk) 13:08, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, please see m:Talk:Meetup/Oxford/58#Date of meetup and indicate which option would most suit you. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 23:19, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
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Re [1]: I had never heard of the Washington Times before, but it's a clever choice of name, isn't it? Sounds a bit like it partakes of the joint respectability of the Washington Post and the New York Times. While being actually, as you say, worse than the Daily Mail. Best, Bishonen | talk 17:32, 6 February 2018 (UTC).
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Several people commented in "User:CD17/sandbox/Water-filtered_infrared-A" The Teahouse that too many references for one statement might be a problem. I was wondering who might know where this sort of thing could be discussed. I went back in the history of one article where I have a sentence supported by five references. The basic information about a building was added here. With two more sources I was able to add the size and cost of a building here. And then I found another source which had a different size for the building, added here. The building was across from another facility of the company, but I didn't find the edit where I added that. It looked better to just put all five sources at the end of the sentence than to be jumping back and forth.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:29, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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My uploads from Geograph to Commons are galleried at User:Redrose64#Images (Geograph). The file description page for each one has an entry "Source From geograph.org.uk" - if you click that, you'll get to the image's description page at geograph. In that page there is a link "Find out How to reuse this image" which if followed will show several sets of instructions; look for the "Wikipedia Template for image page." one. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 23:58, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hi! I was wondering if you could point me to a tutorial or resources for creating electoral maps such as File:ElectoralCollege2016.svg. Thank you! – Lionel( talk) 07:19, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, I see you have just moved the above page from a date defined to general title quoting standard naming. I think you are wrong - there were two french submarines called Turquoise ( see the link at the top of the page to other ships) and the correct method to dab them is to put the year of launch in brackets in the title. Perhaps you could review your actions and correct unless I am misunderstanding things Lyndaship ( talk) 08:58, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
"Individual ship articles For ship article naming conventions, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ships).
Articles about individual ships should have fully disambiguated titles, and include all information from the index page; in other words, don't assume that the reader has seen the index page."
Without the year stated if someone refers to the WWII french submarine Turquoise in an article it will link to the wrong ship. Can you revert your page name change please? Lyndaship ( talk) 11:12, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello! It was good to meet you in Oxford last month.
Looking back at our discussion (3 years ago!), you were right, I never did get back in touch with you.
The automatic categoriser and uploader that I was talking about then never got written either. But, as I was mentioning, things haven't entirely stood still. Since that time almost 30,000 of the 50,000 maps that were identified have now had georeferencing added (this progress page has a breakdown of what's left); of which I hope I am now getting close to uploading a first group of 5,000, that relate to the UK and Ireland, with some attempt to group them and provide some Commons categories, based on what the maps appear to be of, based on their scale and coordinates and bounding boxes from the georeferencing (see these preparation pages, generated by a script, for links and listings); as well as a further 600 maps that were split over two pages ( corresponding pages). If you're interested (or want to suggest improvements), rough notes on some of the process can be found on this page.
It's still work in progress at the moment -- I'd like to do a bit of work on the Commons c:Template:Map description template first, and also need to investigate a few maps from this group that have already been uploaded independently. Plus there are still about 1000 of the 6000 that still need names input; and a slow but steady trickle of new maps still being added from the georeferencing. But I do hope quite soon now to finally start getting them uploaded and publicised.
I fear you are right, that most of what is uploaded to Commons simply passes most Wikipedia editors by, unless they happen to see one of the files in an article they follow. But I'm hoping that with perhaps a piece in the Signpost, and a sufficiently big group of files, then it might encourage some editors to look at the Commons maps and plans categories, to see if there's something that they would like to put into an article. I don't know whether images from the atlases you were talking about might fit in with that too? But they sound as though they would be nice to have on Commons.
Take care, and very good to have met you. Jheald ( talk) 18:37, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, I remember you mentioning at Teahouse that the Financial Times source in the article was behind a paywall. I just figured out that if the title of the reference (Career path to the top from the school gates) is searched in Google and clicked, it somehow opens without showing the paywall. For some reason I got interested in the article and have been helping out the editor with small edits here and there. Thanks, MT Train Talk 18:14, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hi @ Maproom:- your skills required. Can you check grammar and prose of this please? Ethel Armstrong.Thank you Whispyhistory ( talk) 18:54, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you for your edits Whispyhistory ( talk) 23:41, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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Facto Post – Issue 11 – 9 April 2018
![]() Open Citations Month, with its eminently guessable hashtag, is upon us. We should be utterly grateful that in the past 12 months, so much data on which papers cite which other papers has been made open, and that Wikidata is playing its part in hosting it as "cites" statements. At the time of writing, there are 15.3M Wikidata items that can do that. Pulling back to look at open access papers in the large, though, there is is less reason for celebration. Access in theory does not yet equate to practical access. A recent LSE IMPACT blogpost puts that issue down to "heterogeneity". A useful euphemism to save us from thinking that the whole concept doesn't fall into the realm of the oxymoron. Some home truths: aggregation is not content management, if it falls short on reusability. The PDF file format is wedded to how humans read documents, not how machines ingest them. The salami-slicer is our friend in the current downloading of open access papers, but for a better metaphor, think about skinning an onion, laboriously, 100 times with diminishing returns. There are of the order of 100 major publisher sites hosting open access papers, and the predominant offer there is still a PDF. ![]() From the discoverability angle, Wikidata's bibliographic resources combined with the SPARQL query are superior in principle, by far, to existing keyword searches run over papers. Open access content should be managed into consistent HTML, something that is currently strenuous. The good news, such as it is, would be that much of it is already in XML. The organisational problem of removing further skins from the onion, with sensible prioritisation, is certainly not insuperable. The CORE group (the bloggers in the LSE posting) has some answers, but actually not all that is needed for the text and data mining purposes they highlight. The long tail, or in other words the onion heart when it has become fiddly beyond patience to skin, does call for a pis aller. But the real knack is to do more between the XML and the heart.
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thanks for doing this; it will mean a lot to his family and help researchers interested in Franks books. -- Secretpsychologist ( talk) 12:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)Secretpsychologist
Thanks for John Basil Hume. Can you see Owen Harding Wangensteen too? This is amazing team effort. Whispyhistory ( talk) 21:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
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[2] - strange :_) You have some history and knowledge of the article and knew it was "well referenced" at one time - maybe you forgot. -- Green C 21:27, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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Hey Maproom, wanted to check with you if you thought of running for it ever... Warmly, Lourdes 17:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Maproom, long time no see, however despite the hiatus, the Matthew nondebate persists simply through people's unwillingness to check out the evidence. This I can only conclude because once seen, there is no doubt in anyone's mind how ridiculous the evidence offered on Darwin's wrongdoing. Now, please do not take any of the following as personal. It is not intended that way, just passionate exposition.
The fallacy being maintained here, is that Sutton has actually published valid scientific papers. He has not. None of his publications have been reviewed by anyone qualified to do so. You do not need me to tell you that, only your own eyes and brain to look at what he claims then look at the evidence. For example, Robert Chambers is the main claim he has, of an important individual to have seen Matthew's book, arising from the existence of what Sutton claims is a review by Robert Chambers in the Chambers' Journal. It is not. It is a copy of an article in the Quarterly from some months before. Regardless of who wrote the article, it does not place a copy of the book with the important evolutionary part therein into Robert Chambers' hands. What's more is that Robert Chambers was not even working on the Chambers' Journal at the time, nor is there any mention of Matthew or the ideas in his book in the Vestiges of Creation, Chambers' magnus opus. Finally, but in no way the last contradictory evidence that comprehensively refutes EVERYTHING Sutton has produced outwith Criminology since 2013, inclusive, is that a detailed examination (that is published in a high profile peer reviewed specialist journal) of the various versions of selection, a commonly held idea for its stabilisation of natural populations since Lucretius, finds Matthew added nothing new, and what he did cobble together would never work, as it inevitably always ends in an evolutionary cul-de-sac, hence his resort to Cuvier's catastrophism.
With respect, the reason I care about this is because it is our field of interest, three career professional academics watching a refined area of historical and scientific knowledge getting perverted by the whims of an overly egocentric amateur. You are giving him leeway simply because he squeezed his falsehoods into wikipedia under our noses using sock puppetry. That is not the way this is supposed to work. It is supposed to be set up by people who care enough to become experts, and maintained by those same knowledgeable individuals. Sutton spews stuff out without thinking nor checking. Look at the Matthew page, and his personal page (that he wrote anonymously about himself, btw -- just cross reference the origins of that page with the sock puppet record): if they were truthful, honest treatments, most of the material would not be there, because it is not publishable or not published in a reputable journal. Either, let us cover his falsehoods with links to our published refutation -- the equivalent of a RETRACTED notice across his papers -- or let us edit out the unsubstantiated, nonpeer-reviewed stuff, and leave there what is tenable.
As they say, 2 wrongs don't make a right: (1) Sutton pushes his falsehoods onto Wiki, a respected source of information -- which he hates btw. Have you read his venomous, personal and general, attacks at Wiki editors? (2) Wiki maintains his point of view through wanting to be PC and fair, and academic freedom of speech, even though no-one at all, from within the evolutionary biological sciences who has been approached has given it any credence. A fault-ridden, conspiracy theorist, with a fantasy to push, and his main supporter in perpetuating the fallacy, is Wikipedia, whom he loves to hate. Regarding Academic Freedom of Speech -- research has to be scholarly to qualify for that protection.
It is not acceptable for anyone to defend his "work" unless they have fully tested his claims. If you haven't laughed out loud in disbelief at how stupid his errors, within half and hour of checking, give me a shout, Jfderry ( talk) 14:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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You probably shouldn't be telling new editors that stubs are unacceptable because that really isn't true. See Wikipedia:Stub. Best Regards, Barbara ✐ ✉ 01:12, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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You recently agreed with me in the Teahouse on an article being in a crappy state (nothing actually important, but for the sake of reference, it was
here, and about
Boston Confucians).
Well, could you I lure you into taking a look at
List of breakfast drinks, and tell me if that's something worth keeping?
Note/Disclosure: I very recently created
an AfD for it, and feel it may have failed by having 3 people with a vested or pet interest in it, disregarding common sense. - But, maybe I mishandled the AfD, which in turn begs the question of what I should have done.
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Sorry, why did you get rid of the links, you got my article declined, I had to undo that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huff slush7264 ( talk • contribs) 17:04, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I cited them! Sorry. I just started wikipedia. I only have 100 edits, and 99% of them are on my user page and I.C woodward. Just to notice you of that.
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they do mention it, but the link does not head to the exact page that it is on. there was a book by thunder bay books but i guess they stopped printing it? the book is from like 2004 anyway. i did take the link to the exact page, but somehow it does not link to the page i originally set it to. Huff slush7264 00:10, 29 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huff slush7264 ( talk • contribs)
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I don't understand. Did that vandal delete my citations. Kohenet openly states that they are neopagan. My opponent is literally flat out lying. I gave the citations, and I can give many more. If that vandal persists in deleting what I post here just give me your email, and I will email detailed citations and quotes. I am distressed that my opponent is stooping to deleting material and lying :-( RK ( talk) 01:31, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
What? I have tons of citations. Why are they being deleted? They are openly a neopagan semitic religion. Why are people lying about them? RK ( talk)
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I live in England. I am a native English speaker, and retain some schoolboy French. I have a science degree.
I can program in Prolog, Perl, and PHP, and write raw html. I like maps. I have an account on Wikimedia Commons. PRABHAKAR.S ( talk) 13:24, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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Dear Maproom,
I have pictures where we are together, Amira Medunjanin and I (Enigma666rock 12:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)enigma666rock) but I do not want to put them in public, is there a way to put them in a private message for review. Also, how to remove the warning sign from the page? I'm not good at wikipedia and I need specific help.
Best regards! Enigma666rock 12:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)enigma666rock — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enigma666rock ( talk • contribs)
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Dear Maproom! Thank you so much for your help on my query at the Teahouse! Our discussion there has been archived, and hence I begin a new one here.
I believe the Admin issue you mentioned last on Siddharth Menon (actor) has been resolved. Could you now guide me further on what you meant by Hatnotes for the this page and for Siddharth Menon; and how I may add them to both pages?
I shall soon be getting round to adding and citing further information that properly disambiguates both of the articles from each other as the subjects share a common name and work in a common industry.
Thanks once again for your help, kind regards, Spinster300 ( talk) 04:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC).
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Hi maproom, hope you are well. Can you check my recent edits please. English is my 2nd language. Whispyhistory ( talk) 18:48, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, re this comment: if it's the Commons upload wizard that's bugging you, do what I do - skip right past it. You can do this by going to Preferences → Gadgets and disabling "UploadWizard: Upload Wizard. Especially useful for new users." - disabling this will alter the destination of the "Upload file" link in the left margin. Alternatively, the direct link to the old upload page is c:Commons:Upload.
In that, the ones that I mostly use are:
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Re [1]: I had never heard of the Washington Times before, but it's a clever choice of name, isn't it? Sounds a bit like it partakes of the joint respectability of the Washington Post and the New York Times. While being actually, as you say, worse than the Daily Mail. Best, Bishonen | talk 17:32, 6 February 2018 (UTC).
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Several people commented in "User:CD17/sandbox/Water-filtered_infrared-A" The Teahouse that too many references for one statement might be a problem. I was wondering who might know where this sort of thing could be discussed. I went back in the history of one article where I have a sentence supported by five references. The basic information about a building was added here. With two more sources I was able to add the size and cost of a building here. And then I found another source which had a different size for the building, added here. The building was across from another facility of the company, but I didn't find the edit where I added that. It looked better to just put all five sources at the end of the sentence than to be jumping back and forth.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:29, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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My uploads from Geograph to Commons are galleried at User:Redrose64#Images (Geograph). The file description page for each one has an entry "Source From geograph.org.uk" - if you click that, you'll get to the image's description page at geograph. In that page there is a link "Find out How to reuse this image" which if followed will show several sets of instructions; look for the "Wikipedia Template for image page." one. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 23:58, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hi! I was wondering if you could point me to a tutorial or resources for creating electoral maps such as File:ElectoralCollege2016.svg. Thank you! – Lionel( talk) 07:19, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, I see you have just moved the above page from a date defined to general title quoting standard naming. I think you are wrong - there were two french submarines called Turquoise ( see the link at the top of the page to other ships) and the correct method to dab them is to put the year of launch in brackets in the title. Perhaps you could review your actions and correct unless I am misunderstanding things Lyndaship ( talk) 08:58, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
"Individual ship articles For ship article naming conventions, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ships).
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Without the year stated if someone refers to the WWII french submarine Turquoise in an article it will link to the wrong ship. Can you revert your page name change please? Lyndaship ( talk) 11:12, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello! It was good to meet you in Oxford last month.
Looking back at our discussion (3 years ago!), you were right, I never did get back in touch with you.
The automatic categoriser and uploader that I was talking about then never got written either. But, as I was mentioning, things haven't entirely stood still. Since that time almost 30,000 of the 50,000 maps that were identified have now had georeferencing added (this progress page has a breakdown of what's left); of which I hope I am now getting close to uploading a first group of 5,000, that relate to the UK and Ireland, with some attempt to group them and provide some Commons categories, based on what the maps appear to be of, based on their scale and coordinates and bounding boxes from the georeferencing (see these preparation pages, generated by a script, for links and listings); as well as a further 600 maps that were split over two pages ( corresponding pages). If you're interested (or want to suggest improvements), rough notes on some of the process can be found on this page.
It's still work in progress at the moment -- I'd like to do a bit of work on the Commons c:Template:Map description template first, and also need to investigate a few maps from this group that have already been uploaded independently. Plus there are still about 1000 of the 6000 that still need names input; and a slow but steady trickle of new maps still being added from the georeferencing. But I do hope quite soon now to finally start getting them uploaded and publicised.
I fear you are right, that most of what is uploaded to Commons simply passes most Wikipedia editors by, unless they happen to see one of the files in an article they follow. But I'm hoping that with perhaps a piece in the Signpost, and a sufficiently big group of files, then it might encourage some editors to look at the Commons maps and plans categories, to see if there's something that they would like to put into an article. I don't know whether images from the atlases you were talking about might fit in with that too? But they sound as though they would be nice to have on Commons.
Take care, and very good to have met you. Jheald ( talk) 18:37, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, I remember you mentioning at Teahouse that the Financial Times source in the article was behind a paywall. I just figured out that if the title of the reference (Career path to the top from the school gates) is searched in Google and clicked, it somehow opens without showing the paywall. For some reason I got interested in the article and have been helping out the editor with small edits here and there. Thanks, MT Train Talk 18:14, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hi @ Maproom:- your skills required. Can you check grammar and prose of this please? Ethel Armstrong.Thank you Whispyhistory ( talk) 18:54, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you for your edits Whispyhistory ( talk) 23:41, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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thanks for doing this; it will mean a lot to his family and help researchers interested in Franks books. -- Secretpsychologist ( talk) 12:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)Secretpsychologist
Thanks for John Basil Hume. Can you see Owen Harding Wangensteen too? This is amazing team effort. Whispyhistory ( talk) 21:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
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[2] - strange :_) You have some history and knowledge of the article and knew it was "well referenced" at one time - maybe you forgot. -- Green C 21:27, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Maproom, long time no see, however despite the hiatus, the Matthew nondebate persists simply through people's unwillingness to check out the evidence. This I can only conclude because once seen, there is no doubt in anyone's mind how ridiculous the evidence offered on Darwin's wrongdoing. Now, please do not take any of the following as personal. It is not intended that way, just passionate exposition.
The fallacy being maintained here, is that Sutton has actually published valid scientific papers. He has not. None of his publications have been reviewed by anyone qualified to do so. You do not need me to tell you that, only your own eyes and brain to look at what he claims then look at the evidence. For example, Robert Chambers is the main claim he has, of an important individual to have seen Matthew's book, arising from the existence of what Sutton claims is a review by Robert Chambers in the Chambers' Journal. It is not. It is a copy of an article in the Quarterly from some months before. Regardless of who wrote the article, it does not place a copy of the book with the important evolutionary part therein into Robert Chambers' hands. What's more is that Robert Chambers was not even working on the Chambers' Journal at the time, nor is there any mention of Matthew or the ideas in his book in the Vestiges of Creation, Chambers' magnus opus. Finally, but in no way the last contradictory evidence that comprehensively refutes EVERYTHING Sutton has produced outwith Criminology since 2013, inclusive, is that a detailed examination (that is published in a high profile peer reviewed specialist journal) of the various versions of selection, a commonly held idea for its stabilisation of natural populations since Lucretius, finds Matthew added nothing new, and what he did cobble together would never work, as it inevitably always ends in an evolutionary cul-de-sac, hence his resort to Cuvier's catastrophism.
With respect, the reason I care about this is because it is our field of interest, three career professional academics watching a refined area of historical and scientific knowledge getting perverted by the whims of an overly egocentric amateur. You are giving him leeway simply because he squeezed his falsehoods into wikipedia under our noses using sock puppetry. That is not the way this is supposed to work. It is supposed to be set up by people who care enough to become experts, and maintained by those same knowledgeable individuals. Sutton spews stuff out without thinking nor checking. Look at the Matthew page, and his personal page (that he wrote anonymously about himself, btw -- just cross reference the origins of that page with the sock puppet record): if they were truthful, honest treatments, most of the material would not be there, because it is not publishable or not published in a reputable journal. Either, let us cover his falsehoods with links to our published refutation -- the equivalent of a RETRACTED notice across his papers -- or let us edit out the unsubstantiated, nonpeer-reviewed stuff, and leave there what is tenable.
As they say, 2 wrongs don't make a right: (1) Sutton pushes his falsehoods onto Wiki, a respected source of information -- which he hates btw. Have you read his venomous, personal and general, attacks at Wiki editors? (2) Wiki maintains his point of view through wanting to be PC and fair, and academic freedom of speech, even though no-one at all, from within the evolutionary biological sciences who has been approached has given it any credence. A fault-ridden, conspiracy theorist, with a fantasy to push, and his main supporter in perpetuating the fallacy, is Wikipedia, whom he loves to hate. Regarding Academic Freedom of Speech -- research has to be scholarly to qualify for that protection.
It is not acceptable for anyone to defend his "work" unless they have fully tested his claims. If you haven't laughed out loud in disbelief at how stupid his errors, within half and hour of checking, give me a shout, Jfderry ( talk) 14:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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You probably shouldn't be telling new editors that stubs are unacceptable because that really isn't true. See Wikipedia:Stub. Best Regards, Barbara ✐ ✉ 01:12, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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You recently agreed with me in the Teahouse on an article being in a crappy state (nothing actually important, but for the sake of reference, it was
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Well, could you I lure you into taking a look at
List of breakfast drinks, and tell me if that's something worth keeping?
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Sorry, why did you get rid of the links, you got my article declined, I had to undo that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huff slush7264 ( talk • contribs) 17:04, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I cited them! Sorry. I just started wikipedia. I only have 100 edits, and 99% of them are on my user page and I.C woodward. Just to notice you of that.
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they do mention it, but the link does not head to the exact page that it is on. there was a book by thunder bay books but i guess they stopped printing it? the book is from like 2004 anyway. i did take the link to the exact page, but somehow it does not link to the page i originally set it to. Huff slush7264 00:10, 29 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huff slush7264 ( talk • contribs)
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I don't understand. Did that vandal delete my citations. Kohenet openly states that they are neopagan. My opponent is literally flat out lying. I gave the citations, and I can give many more. If that vandal persists in deleting what I post here just give me your email, and I will email detailed citations and quotes. I am distressed that my opponent is stooping to deleting material and lying :-( RK ( talk) 01:31, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
What? I have tons of citations. Why are they being deleted? They are openly a neopagan semitic religion. Why are people lying about them? RK ( talk)
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Dear Maproom,
I have pictures where we are together, Amira Medunjanin and I (Enigma666rock 12:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)enigma666rock) but I do not want to put them in public, is there a way to put them in a private message for review. Also, how to remove the warning sign from the page? I'm not good at wikipedia and I need specific help.
Best regards! Enigma666rock 12:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)enigma666rock — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enigma666rock ( talk • contribs)
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Dear Maproom! Thank you so much for your help on my query at the Teahouse! Our discussion there has been archived, and hence I begin a new one here.
I believe the Admin issue you mentioned last on Siddharth Menon (actor) has been resolved. Could you now guide me further on what you meant by Hatnotes for the this page and for Siddharth Menon; and how I may add them to both pages?
I shall soon be getting round to adding and citing further information that properly disambiguates both of the articles from each other as the subjects share a common name and work in a common industry.
Thanks once again for your help, kind regards, Spinster300 ( talk) 04:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC).
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Hi maproom, hope you are well. Can you check my recent edits please. English is my 2nd language. Whispyhistory ( talk) 18:48, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=History_of_the_Székely_people&curid=11394933&diff=861695014&oldid=861693429 what's this joke from you? It was referenced. See talk page. Skyhighway ( talk) 09:26, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, re this comment: if it's the Commons upload wizard that's bugging you, do what I do - skip right past it. You can do this by going to Preferences → Gadgets and disabling "UploadWizard: Upload Wizard. Especially useful for new users." - disabling this will alter the destination of the "Upload file" link in the left margin. Alternatively, the direct link to the old upload page is c:Commons:Upload.
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