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Should a parameter be added to allow for linking to the NCBI Taxonomy browser. For example: 39916, Silene stenophylla? Smallman12q ( talk) 00:46, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
|omim=
in {{
Infobox disease}}. —
SMcCandlish
Talk⇒〈°⌊°〉
Contribs. 00:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC)Hi,
There is a "type-strain" section in taxobox, but no "strains" section. Could it be possible to add one? I have done a prototype in the Cunninghamella elegans taxobox using HTML tags. Does that have any interest? Thanks -- NotWith ( talk) 12:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
The discussion of images states:
A caption can be provided using image_caption. A caption need not be provided if it would just repeat the title of the article. It should be provided if it can convey any additional information about the image, such as the sex or life stage of the individual, the location where the picture was taken, the artist (if an engraving or other illustration), or (for higher taxa) the particular species depicted.
I'm in correspondence with a photographer whose image is being used. The licensing claim was {{ PD-USGov}} but that was incorrect, and we are in danger of having to remove the image. The author is mulling allowing the image, but would like some form of credit. I understand that we do not normally provide image credits, but I see that it is allowed in the case of an artist; is there a reason why we would be willing to credit an artist but not a photographer? If I were to add a photo credit to a caption, what is likely to happen?-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 17:44, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
I've written around 300 articles on moths and butterflies, out of a list of over a thousand, all with English, Latin and Welsh names. Please take a look here. I'm now looking for a database of three fields: the Latin name (only those on my list!), habitat and wingspan.
There are very few of us on the Wiki-cy we need all the help we can get, please. An excel file would be great, then I could get a bot to add one or two sentences onto the pages e.g. habitat, wingspan.
Let's conserve that rich diversity of life: including languages! Llywelyn2000 ( talk) 06:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
A discussion is currently happening here about whether the IUCN status is suppose to be what IUCN say or other sources says. You may like to discuss or once finished amend the taxobox documentation. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 17:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
I suggest to add a longevity or life expectancy parameter. I think it is not already the case and it applies for all the living things. It would format the information in the articles and allow new automatic searches Ftiercel ( talk) 16:40, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I would like to request adding the conservation status of 'Under Review' to the Taxobox template (possibly with "UR" as the code?) The Platte River caddisfly (for which I am currently creating an article) currently falls under this status - see http://ecos.fws.gov/speciesProfile/profile/speciesProfile.action?spcode=I0V7
I am honestly not sure where to go with this concern, as Wikipedia:Conservation status is archaic, and I'm not sure if this is exactly a matter for the Village Pump.
The status of "NE" (Not Evaluated) is just plain incorrect in this instance... there was just a 12-month assessment to determine whether this caddisfly was Endangered, and the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service ultimately determined it is not.
If there is a place better suited for this inquiry, please let me know and I will direct it there. Thank you.
-- CrunchySkies ( talk) 10:11, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
The 4 major subtemplates of {Taxobox/core} which show the taxon rows in the infobox, as Template:Taxobox/taxonomy thru Template:Taxobox/taxonomy/3, need to be fixed, from the /sandbox versions, to not exceed the " wp:Expansion depth limit" of 41 levels. {Taxobox/taxonomy/3} should be changed to show only 19 levels of taxons, and {Taxobox/taxonomy} should be changed for when to invoke {Taxobox/taxonomy/1}, which can then use the deeper subtemplates "/2" and "/3" to nest {Taxobox/taxonomy/2} and then nest {Taxobox/taxonomy/3}. By changing those 4 subtemplates (copied from the /sandbox versions), then over 2,000 genus/species articles should format properly and no longer appear linked to:
The current exceeded-depth messages are mostly non-fatal in genus/species articles, so the main reason for the fix is to unclutter that depth-category, so that other articles with truly severe exceeded-limit problems can be spotted without the 2,000 bio/species articles cluttering the category.
Testing: After the update, then editing of bio/species articles, such as whale "
Aegyptocetus" or tree "
Acacia" should be able to run "Show preview" with no red message "Page exceeded the expansion depth" appearing at top during edit-preview. Also, several minutes after the change, the count by {PAGESINCATEGORY}, of about 4,600 pages (live: 3) should be much lower than 3,000 pages.
Impact: About 7,360 articles should be affected, including every article which uses
Template:Taxobox/taxonomy called by {Taxobox/core} from {
Speciesbox} or {Automatic taxobox}. The exceeded-depth problem has existed for many months/years. Recently (29 August 2012), we changed {
Template:Infobox_German location} to avoid the depth-limit in over 11,000 articles. I have studied this Taxobox issue thoroughly, and notified template author
User:Smith609, so ask any questions below, thanks. -
Wikid77 (
talk) 15:28, 1 Sep., revised 07:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I'm new here. I want to update taxobox scripts in Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu(WBM) but I don't know where to start. The scripts here are complicated and I have messed up the script in WBM. The copy and paste method doesn't work well as the scripts here use a lot of new templates that are not still made in WBM. For that, I willing to learn it one by one so that I can update it in WBM. Can anyone help me for that? Izhamwong ( talk) 01:54, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
I have made a suggestion on the Automatic taxobox talkpage for updating the temporal range. Comments and suggestions are welcome! -- Kev min § 20:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
After noticing that |status system=
and |status_system=
respond differently, I've updated the code such that any parameter may be entered with a whitespace in the name instead of an underscore without adverse effects. This affected over 100 parameters (estimated), so please post any bug reports you believe are related to this update. Anticipated potential bugs to watch for may include: trailing braces { or }, redlinked templates, spacing oddities, and parameters that do not display at all or appear doubled.
Bob the WikipediaN (
talk •
contribs) 20:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
We currently have the image
and image2
fields (along with their widths and captions), and technically, these can be used to add sounds or videos (example at
Aegithalidae), but wouldn't it be better to have something like audio
and audio2
and video
and video2
too? --
Daniel Mietchen -
WiR/OS (
talk) 12:43, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I know we have the extinct parameter for date of extinction, why don't we have a related categorization system? This could provide some very interesting reading and tracking capability. Werieth ( talk) 21:11, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
There appears to be an implicit {{ clear right}} for {{ Taxobox}} vs. infoboxes based on {{ Infobox}}. Is this a purposeful design choice? If not, could something fix it? If this behavior is intended, what's the rationale? Thanks. 67.101.5.148 ( talk) 03:46, 11 March 2013 (UTC) Yes the taxobox is set up to display to the right of the page. It is the same of (I think) all infoboxes, eg biography and trains and ships etc...-- Kev min § 23:02, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I would like to suggest rewritting taxobox and to use Lua+Wikidata.
Eran ( talk) 21:11, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
How does your proposal handle:
-- Kev min § 07:30, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
{{#invoke:Taxobox|taxbox|Subclasses= *{{extinct}}[[Archaeornithes]] [[Paraphyly|*]] *{{extinct}}[[Enantiornithes]] *{{extinct}}[[Hesperornithes]] *{{extinct}}[[Ichthyornithes]] *[[Neornithes]] }}
Please slow down! There are two main aspects to the proposal: changing to Lua and using Wikidata.
Peter coxhead ( talk) 20:52, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Squirrels | |
---|---|
Various members of the family Sciuridae | |
Scientific classification | |
Kingdom: | |
Phylum: | ... etc. ...
|
Family: | Sciuridae
Fischer de Waldheim, 1817
|
I tried to add an image map for the Taxobox image. It works but extraneous text is displayed. I tried various experiments and couldn't get rid of the extraneous text. Perhaps I have done something wrong or perhaps the problem is with the image map. The edit in question is below above.
--
Davefoc (
talk) 07:40, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
|image=[[File:Sciuridae.jpg|240px]]
", you will get the same result. Having said that, however, I really like what you are trying to achieve, and it got me thinking. I've looked at the code to
Template:taxobox/core, and the "re-write" turns out to be trivial. This problem... er, design feature... exists not just in {{
taxobox}}
, but also in all infoboxes.{{
Infobox settlement}}
just two days ago, where I tried to pass a template – {{
superimpose}}
in my case - attempting to "modularize" a set of locator maps: the base map would be combined with one or more overlay(s) to produce a combined "image". That might prove useful with range_maps in taxoboxes, where we could use wikitext (instead of graphic software like Gimp or Inkscape) to combine the ranges of several species into a single range map for their genus page, for example, or to standardize some of the more common base map imagery. In my case, I tried to combine the following two images:
Provincetown, Massachusetts | |
---|---|
Nickname: "P-town" or "P'town" | |
Motto(s): "Birthplace of American Liberty" | |
Settled | 1700 |
Incorporated | ... etc. ... |
{{taxobox}}
: We'd simply define one new variable for each 'image' and 'map' field that is in the parameter list for the taxo- or info-box:
|image_raw=yes
– (default: "no"); setting this to "yes" (or "true") instructs the template to consider the text of|image=
as "raw" wikicode to be inserted verbatim into the taxobox. The default behavior treats it as a simple filename (which gets placed inside of a "[[File:...|240px]]
" wrapper). This parameter is only useful when implementing more advanced image manipulation (e.g., with<imagemap>...</imagemap>
or with image templates like{{ superimpose}}
).
|image2_raw=yes
– ... ditto. ...
|range_map_raw=yes
– ... ditto. ...
|range_map2_raw=yes
– ... ditto. ...
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 25 | Archive 26 | Archive 27 | Archive 28 | Archive 29 | Archive 30 | Archive 31 |
Should a parameter be added to allow for linking to the NCBI Taxonomy browser. For example: 39916, Silene stenophylla? Smallman12q ( talk) 00:46, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
|omim=
in {{
Infobox disease}}. —
SMcCandlish
Talk⇒〈°⌊°〉
Contribs. 00:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC)Hi,
There is a "type-strain" section in taxobox, but no "strains" section. Could it be possible to add one? I have done a prototype in the Cunninghamella elegans taxobox using HTML tags. Does that have any interest? Thanks -- NotWith ( talk) 12:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
The discussion of images states:
A caption can be provided using image_caption. A caption need not be provided if it would just repeat the title of the article. It should be provided if it can convey any additional information about the image, such as the sex or life stage of the individual, the location where the picture was taken, the artist (if an engraving or other illustration), or (for higher taxa) the particular species depicted.
I'm in correspondence with a photographer whose image is being used. The licensing claim was {{ PD-USGov}} but that was incorrect, and we are in danger of having to remove the image. The author is mulling allowing the image, but would like some form of credit. I understand that we do not normally provide image credits, but I see that it is allowed in the case of an artist; is there a reason why we would be willing to credit an artist but not a photographer? If I were to add a photo credit to a caption, what is likely to happen?-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 17:44, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
I've written around 300 articles on moths and butterflies, out of a list of over a thousand, all with English, Latin and Welsh names. Please take a look here. I'm now looking for a database of three fields: the Latin name (only those on my list!), habitat and wingspan.
There are very few of us on the Wiki-cy we need all the help we can get, please. An excel file would be great, then I could get a bot to add one or two sentences onto the pages e.g. habitat, wingspan.
Let's conserve that rich diversity of life: including languages! Llywelyn2000 ( talk) 06:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
A discussion is currently happening here about whether the IUCN status is suppose to be what IUCN say or other sources says. You may like to discuss or once finished amend the taxobox documentation. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 17:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
I suggest to add a longevity or life expectancy parameter. I think it is not already the case and it applies for all the living things. It would format the information in the articles and allow new automatic searches Ftiercel ( talk) 16:40, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I would like to request adding the conservation status of 'Under Review' to the Taxobox template (possibly with "UR" as the code?) The Platte River caddisfly (for which I am currently creating an article) currently falls under this status - see http://ecos.fws.gov/speciesProfile/profile/speciesProfile.action?spcode=I0V7
I am honestly not sure where to go with this concern, as Wikipedia:Conservation status is archaic, and I'm not sure if this is exactly a matter for the Village Pump.
The status of "NE" (Not Evaluated) is just plain incorrect in this instance... there was just a 12-month assessment to determine whether this caddisfly was Endangered, and the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service ultimately determined it is not.
If there is a place better suited for this inquiry, please let me know and I will direct it there. Thank you.
-- CrunchySkies ( talk) 10:11, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
The 4 major subtemplates of {Taxobox/core} which show the taxon rows in the infobox, as Template:Taxobox/taxonomy thru Template:Taxobox/taxonomy/3, need to be fixed, from the /sandbox versions, to not exceed the " wp:Expansion depth limit" of 41 levels. {Taxobox/taxonomy/3} should be changed to show only 19 levels of taxons, and {Taxobox/taxonomy} should be changed for when to invoke {Taxobox/taxonomy/1}, which can then use the deeper subtemplates "/2" and "/3" to nest {Taxobox/taxonomy/2} and then nest {Taxobox/taxonomy/3}. By changing those 4 subtemplates (copied from the /sandbox versions), then over 2,000 genus/species articles should format properly and no longer appear linked to:
The current exceeded-depth messages are mostly non-fatal in genus/species articles, so the main reason for the fix is to unclutter that depth-category, so that other articles with truly severe exceeded-limit problems can be spotted without the 2,000 bio/species articles cluttering the category.
Testing: After the update, then editing of bio/species articles, such as whale "
Aegyptocetus" or tree "
Acacia" should be able to run "Show preview" with no red message "Page exceeded the expansion depth" appearing at top during edit-preview. Also, several minutes after the change, the count by {PAGESINCATEGORY}, of about 4,600 pages (live: 3) should be much lower than 3,000 pages.
Impact: About 7,360 articles should be affected, including every article which uses
Template:Taxobox/taxonomy called by {Taxobox/core} from {
Speciesbox} or {Automatic taxobox}. The exceeded-depth problem has existed for many months/years. Recently (29 August 2012), we changed {
Template:Infobox_German location} to avoid the depth-limit in over 11,000 articles. I have studied this Taxobox issue thoroughly, and notified template author
User:Smith609, so ask any questions below, thanks. -
Wikid77 (
talk) 15:28, 1 Sep., revised 07:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I'm new here. I want to update taxobox scripts in Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu(WBM) but I don't know where to start. The scripts here are complicated and I have messed up the script in WBM. The copy and paste method doesn't work well as the scripts here use a lot of new templates that are not still made in WBM. For that, I willing to learn it one by one so that I can update it in WBM. Can anyone help me for that? Izhamwong ( talk) 01:54, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
I have made a suggestion on the Automatic taxobox talkpage for updating the temporal range. Comments and suggestions are welcome! -- Kev min § 20:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
After noticing that |status system=
and |status_system=
respond differently, I've updated the code such that any parameter may be entered with a whitespace in the name instead of an underscore without adverse effects. This affected over 100 parameters (estimated), so please post any bug reports you believe are related to this update. Anticipated potential bugs to watch for may include: trailing braces { or }, redlinked templates, spacing oddities, and parameters that do not display at all or appear doubled.
Bob the WikipediaN (
talk •
contribs) 20:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
We currently have the image
and image2
fields (along with their widths and captions), and technically, these can be used to add sounds or videos (example at
Aegithalidae), but wouldn't it be better to have something like audio
and audio2
and video
and video2
too? --
Daniel Mietchen -
WiR/OS (
talk) 12:43, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I know we have the extinct parameter for date of extinction, why don't we have a related categorization system? This could provide some very interesting reading and tracking capability. Werieth ( talk) 21:11, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
There appears to be an implicit {{ clear right}} for {{ Taxobox}} vs. infoboxes based on {{ Infobox}}. Is this a purposeful design choice? If not, could something fix it? If this behavior is intended, what's the rationale? Thanks. 67.101.5.148 ( talk) 03:46, 11 March 2013 (UTC) Yes the taxobox is set up to display to the right of the page. It is the same of (I think) all infoboxes, eg biography and trains and ships etc...-- Kev min § 23:02, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I would like to suggest rewritting taxobox and to use Lua+Wikidata.
Eran ( talk) 21:11, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
How does your proposal handle:
-- Kev min § 07:30, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
{{#invoke:Taxobox|taxbox|Subclasses= *{{extinct}}[[Archaeornithes]] [[Paraphyly|*]] *{{extinct}}[[Enantiornithes]] *{{extinct}}[[Hesperornithes]] *{{extinct}}[[Ichthyornithes]] *[[Neornithes]] }}
Please slow down! There are two main aspects to the proposal: changing to Lua and using Wikidata.
Peter coxhead ( talk) 20:52, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Squirrels | |
---|---|
Various members of the family Sciuridae | |
Scientific classification | |
Kingdom: | |
Phylum: | ... etc. ...
|
Family: | Sciuridae
Fischer de Waldheim, 1817
|
I tried to add an image map for the Taxobox image. It works but extraneous text is displayed. I tried various experiments and couldn't get rid of the extraneous text. Perhaps I have done something wrong or perhaps the problem is with the image map. The edit in question is below above.
--
Davefoc (
talk) 07:40, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
|image=[[File:Sciuridae.jpg|240px]]
", you will get the same result. Having said that, however, I really like what you are trying to achieve, and it got me thinking. I've looked at the code to
Template:taxobox/core, and the "re-write" turns out to be trivial. This problem... er, design feature... exists not just in {{
taxobox}}
, but also in all infoboxes.{{
Infobox settlement}}
just two days ago, where I tried to pass a template – {{
superimpose}}
in my case - attempting to "modularize" a set of locator maps: the base map would be combined with one or more overlay(s) to produce a combined "image". That might prove useful with range_maps in taxoboxes, where we could use wikitext (instead of graphic software like Gimp or Inkscape) to combine the ranges of several species into a single range map for their genus page, for example, or to standardize some of the more common base map imagery. In my case, I tried to combine the following two images:
Provincetown, Massachusetts | |
---|---|
Nickname: "P-town" or "P'town" | |
Motto(s): "Birthplace of American Liberty" | |
Settled | 1700 |
Incorporated | ... etc. ... |
{{taxobox}}
: We'd simply define one new variable for each 'image' and 'map' field that is in the parameter list for the taxo- or info-box:
|image_raw=yes
– (default: "no"); setting this to "yes" (or "true") instructs the template to consider the text of|image=
as "raw" wikicode to be inserted verbatim into the taxobox. The default behavior treats it as a simple filename (which gets placed inside of a "[[File:...|240px]]
" wrapper). This parameter is only useful when implementing more advanced image manipulation (e.g., with<imagemap>...</imagemap>
or with image templates like{{ superimpose}}
).
|image2_raw=yes
– ... ditto. ...
|range_map_raw=yes
– ... ditto. ...
|range_map2_raw=yes
– ... ditto. ...