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Is all that information really needed? It is very big, perhaps something smaller and to the point? Re-evaluate what links people need and don't need? - JLogan 20:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I've always though it was cluttered and unclear, so I've drafted a new version here. I have tried to clean it up without the hundreds of minor links (The CoR or EIB isn't that major) and organised less like a shopping list. What do you think? - J Logan t/ c: 11:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I have to say that yellow on while simply doesn't work, fine there isn't a coat of arms, not even the Commission has its own logo and the EU flag is over used but there must be something else we can use? Previous;
Now I put up the latter as I found it looked better, reduced the size of the box and was the closest thing to a coat of arms of sorts (taking the European Council in a head of state kind of manner), plus it will be kept fresh with every new presidency. However that was removed by User:Barryob : "restore stars as the logo cannot be used in templates and plus they look better" Of course I disagree on the latter point but can't argue with legal gumpfh. So what else is there? The Euro symbol was supposedly designed to generally represent the community but now that is associated with the Euro if that was true or not. Coat of arms are usually on coins but its not like we can adapt the common euro coin to use in there either. So has anyone seen anything (legal) used by the institutions that could be used? At least some kind of backing (different from the flag) Or am I alone in thinking the stars on their own look dreadful and at first sight look like some kind of image error? - JLogan 21:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I already saw that on the template about the life in the EU, and I like it very much there. Here it stretches the template too much, and perhaps it is a bit out of context, but I like it anyway. -- giandrea 18:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
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What do you think about Image:EU Insigna.svg? Could be better perhaps, I have to make the stars circle appear in the exact center. But what do you think? I like it. Did I miss any EU country? I don't think so ;-) -- giandrea 18:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
a flag or one of the star circles, everything else is nonsense, I'm afraid. All the other templates have the CoA, so this should have the closest equivalent there is. — Nightst a llion (?) 18:05, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
What a pain I am sometimes, but look, they're logo is flashier than ours.... :( Can we allow this to happen?! Ancient Rome can't be allowed to beat us! Anyone got ideas for making ours as spiffy? - J Logan t: 12:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
transclusion removed No, not for drinks. I was just thinking of articles where politics crosses between the EU and a member/candidate/another country and you have two bars side by side looking stupid or one has to go. Perhaps if we created a mini version of the EU politics bar which can slot above the national one? Just a few basic links, probably on enlargment of foreign relations as that is where it would be placed. Thoughts? - JLogan 19:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
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Created a revised version for post-Lisbon. FP doesn't fit into any single institution so created a small space for that, other details are up to date for it now except for the people -whom we do not know about yet.- J Logan t: 15:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Fingers crossed on the Irish again guys, if you want to do more than that though you can go over and help. Considering the no camp is bank rolled by Americans I don't think the interfering argument can be used against someone handing out leaflets. I've rejigged my ideas for a post-lisbon bar (look right), feel free to tweak. I was thinking about trying to introduce some graphical elements to liven it up, but not much aside from simple decoration which we should avoid.- J.Logan` t: 15:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
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I have returned the flat stars and blue from the EU flag, no discussion or reasoning was made for the change to a darker blue and silly 3D stars. Fry1989 eh? 20:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
The template appears in the article Legislature of the European Union, but the article is neither linked nor easily accessible from the template. -- Van Tuile ( talk) 08:14, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
I recently completely rewrote the template using proper {{ sidebar}} syntax, which make it far easier to maintain as well as much less distracting. This has been undone; assuming there's no substantive reason for this other than one editor's personal sense of aesthetics I'll be reinstating the new version shortly. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 12:48, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
I moved the (powerless) "European Council" to the bottom of the list to reduce the chronic confusion with the (powerful) Council of the European Union. 2604:2000:6A90:3000:BC2F:C827:A1DB:A519 ( talk) 15:30, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Since there is no EU "Legislature" (note that the link to "Legislature of the European Union" redirects to "European Union legislative procedure"), I re-titled the "Legislature" heading as "Council and Parliament". This change makes the Council and the Parliament visible at the top level, but it might be even better to promote them to separate top-level headings. 2604:2000:6A90:3000:BC2F:C827:A1DB:A519 ( talk) 15:43, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
I was just coming to try and find out a bit about the structure of the EU and the changes of leadership, when I looked at this template I spotted a link to luxembourg under the words 'luxembourgish presidency' - having noticed the second link (to Presidency_of_the_Council_of_the_European_Union ) and followed that - it looks incorrect (perhaps it was correct 3 rotations ago, but it appears to be Maltese at the moment) - I'd suggest that having the nationality of a thing that changes every 6 months in a widely seen template is probably unwise. I'm going to be bold and attempt to carefully remove the word Luxembourgish (and link) from the template, but I thought I'd best give you the heads up here in case that's an error. EdwardLane ( talk) 08:29, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
It is pretty jarring to see this huge blue box on an article when every other info box is gray with black text. Is there any reason it's like this, and would anyone be against changing it to te standard color scheme? Obviously, the flag/coat orf arms would retain a blue background WikiWisePowder ( talk) 16:11, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
The white text on the blue background needs to go. It violates WP:COLOR. Also if you look at Category:Politics by country sidebar templates, no other "Politics of ______" sidebar has a non-standard background. Wanted to put this here before I started the process of removing the color. -- Zackmann08 ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 03:05, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
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All mentions of Macedonia should be changed to North Macedonia
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*{{flagicon|MKD}} [[Accession of North Macedonia to the European Union|Macedonia]]
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This looks like somebody tried to cram entire Wikipedia into one template. Needs to be trimmed down ALOT. -- Palosirkka ( talk) 11:06, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Initially, I wanted to simply suggest to add another section dedicated to European political parties, which seems very warranted for a menu on the politics of the European Union. In light of the numerous comments above regarding the size of the menu, I still think that a section of European parties is very needed, but I also want to suggest merging sections on institutions. Currently, the menu contains:
All of these could be merged under a single item called "Institutions". Would this be agreeable to all? Julius Schwarz ( talk) 11:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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Is all that information really needed? It is very big, perhaps something smaller and to the point? Re-evaluate what links people need and don't need? - JLogan 20:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I've always though it was cluttered and unclear, so I've drafted a new version here. I have tried to clean it up without the hundreds of minor links (The CoR or EIB isn't that major) and organised less like a shopping list. What do you think? - J Logan t/ c: 11:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I have to say that yellow on while simply doesn't work, fine there isn't a coat of arms, not even the Commission has its own logo and the EU flag is over used but there must be something else we can use? Previous;
Now I put up the latter as I found it looked better, reduced the size of the box and was the closest thing to a coat of arms of sorts (taking the European Council in a head of state kind of manner), plus it will be kept fresh with every new presidency. However that was removed by User:Barryob : "restore stars as the logo cannot be used in templates and plus they look better" Of course I disagree on the latter point but can't argue with legal gumpfh. So what else is there? The Euro symbol was supposedly designed to generally represent the community but now that is associated with the Euro if that was true or not. Coat of arms are usually on coins but its not like we can adapt the common euro coin to use in there either. So has anyone seen anything (legal) used by the institutions that could be used? At least some kind of backing (different from the flag) Or am I alone in thinking the stars on their own look dreadful and at first sight look like some kind of image error? - JLogan 21:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I already saw that on the template about the life in the EU, and I like it very much there. Here it stretches the template too much, and perhaps it is a bit out of context, but I like it anyway. -- giandrea 18:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Template:Politics_of_Northern_Ireland
What do you think about Image:EU Insigna.svg? Could be better perhaps, I have to make the stars circle appear in the exact center. But what do you think? I like it. Did I miss any EU country? I don't think so ;-) -- giandrea 18:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
a flag or one of the star circles, everything else is nonsense, I'm afraid. All the other templates have the CoA, so this should have the closest equivalent there is. — Nightst a llion (?) 18:05, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
What a pain I am sometimes, but look, they're logo is flashier than ours.... :( Can we allow this to happen?! Ancient Rome can't be allowed to beat us! Anyone got ideas for making ours as spiffy? - J Logan t: 12:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
transclusion removed No, not for drinks. I was just thinking of articles where politics crosses between the EU and a member/candidate/another country and you have two bars side by side looking stupid or one has to go. Perhaps if we created a mini version of the EU politics bar which can slot above the national one? Just a few basic links, probably on enlargment of foreign relations as that is where it would be placed. Thoughts? - JLogan 19:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
(TRANSCLUSION SUBSEQUENTLY REMOVED)
Created a revised version for post-Lisbon. FP doesn't fit into any single institution so created a small space for that, other details are up to date for it now except for the people -whom we do not know about yet.- J Logan t: 15:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Fingers crossed on the Irish again guys, if you want to do more than that though you can go over and help. Considering the no camp is bank rolled by Americans I don't think the interfering argument can be used against someone handing out leaflets. I've rejigged my ideas for a post-lisbon bar (look right), feel free to tweak. I was thinking about trying to introduce some graphical elements to liven it up, but not much aside from simple decoration which we should avoid.- J.Logan` t: 15:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
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I have returned the flat stars and blue from the EU flag, no discussion or reasoning was made for the change to a darker blue and silly 3D stars. Fry1989 eh? 20:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
The template appears in the article Legislature of the European Union, but the article is neither linked nor easily accessible from the template. -- Van Tuile ( talk) 08:14, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
I recently completely rewrote the template using proper {{ sidebar}} syntax, which make it far easier to maintain as well as much less distracting. This has been undone; assuming there's no substantive reason for this other than one editor's personal sense of aesthetics I'll be reinstating the new version shortly. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 12:48, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
I moved the (powerless) "European Council" to the bottom of the list to reduce the chronic confusion with the (powerful) Council of the European Union. 2604:2000:6A90:3000:BC2F:C827:A1DB:A519 ( talk) 15:30, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Since there is no EU "Legislature" (note that the link to "Legislature of the European Union" redirects to "European Union legislative procedure"), I re-titled the "Legislature" heading as "Council and Parliament". This change makes the Council and the Parliament visible at the top level, but it might be even better to promote them to separate top-level headings. 2604:2000:6A90:3000:BC2F:C827:A1DB:A519 ( talk) 15:43, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
I was just coming to try and find out a bit about the structure of the EU and the changes of leadership, when I looked at this template I spotted a link to luxembourg under the words 'luxembourgish presidency' - having noticed the second link (to Presidency_of_the_Council_of_the_European_Union ) and followed that - it looks incorrect (perhaps it was correct 3 rotations ago, but it appears to be Maltese at the moment) - I'd suggest that having the nationality of a thing that changes every 6 months in a widely seen template is probably unwise. I'm going to be bold and attempt to carefully remove the word Luxembourgish (and link) from the template, but I thought I'd best give you the heads up here in case that's an error. EdwardLane ( talk) 08:29, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
It is pretty jarring to see this huge blue box on an article when every other info box is gray with black text. Is there any reason it's like this, and would anyone be against changing it to te standard color scheme? Obviously, the flag/coat orf arms would retain a blue background WikiWisePowder ( talk) 16:11, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
The white text on the blue background needs to go. It violates WP:COLOR. Also if you look at Category:Politics by country sidebar templates, no other "Politics of ______" sidebar has a non-standard background. Wanted to put this here before I started the process of removing the color. -- Zackmann08 ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 03:05, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
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Under Member States, please change Sweeden, Kentucky to Sweden. Manicscumcat ( talk) 21:14, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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All mentions of Macedonia should be changed to North Macedonia
This:
*{{flagicon|MKD}} [[Accession of North Macedonia to the European Union|Macedonia]]
should become this:
*{{flagicon|NMK}} [[Accession of North Macedonia to the European Union|North Macedonia]]
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template. there is an ongoing discussion about how to refer to Macedonia/North Macedonia.
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This looks like somebody tried to cram entire Wikipedia into one template. Needs to be trimmed down ALOT. -- Palosirkka ( talk) 11:06, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Initially, I wanted to simply suggest to add another section dedicated to European political parties, which seems very warranted for a menu on the politics of the European Union. In light of the numerous comments above regarding the size of the menu, I still think that a section of European parties is very needed, but I also want to suggest merging sections on institutions. Currently, the menu contains:
All of these could be merged under a single item called "Institutions". Would this be agreeable to all? Julius Schwarz ( talk) 11:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)