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Some editors might prefer to include a blank line between top-of-page templates and the first line of actual text in order to improve readability in the edit box; for example:
{{lowercase}} '''eBay Inc.''' is an [[United States|American]] [[Internet]] company...
In the case of {{
Lowercase}}, doing so would result in extra whitespace appearing at the top of the article. Following some experimentation, I believe that this may be fixed by enclosing the transcluded content in a <span style="visibility:hidden">
tag. Thus, I propose that the source of the template be changed from:
{{DISPLAYTITLE:{{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{NAMESPACE}}:|}}{{lcfirst:{{PAGENAME}}}}}}<noinclude> {{pp-template|small=yes}} {{documentation}} </noinclude>
to:
<span style="visibility:hidden">{{DISPLAYTITLE:{{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{NAMESPACE}}:|}}{{lcfirst:{{PAGENAME}}}}}}</span><noinclude> {{pp-template|small=yes}} {{documentation}} </noinclude>
Thanks! Melissa 4.0 ( talk) 18:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Strange, the article writes >>Simply add the tag {{lowercase title}} at the top of a page<<
but the eBay example only has: >>{{pp-move-indef}}{{lowercase}}<<
, i.e. no " title" part.
Should the article be shortened by title? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.80.22.6 ( talk) 17:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
How do I install this template on my wiki? Etherfox ( talk) 19:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
This message is to inform people monitoring this talk page that there is an "editprotected" request involving this and several other templates at Template talk:! cymru.lass (hit me up)⁄ (background check) 20:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Note that if both this template and the italic title template are used on one page, such as at Www.tism.wanker.com, the title is italicised but does not begin with a lowercase letter. I suspect it will take a fair bit of time and effort to figure out why this occurs; does anyone know why and how to correct it? GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 16:55, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Why doesn't this template work on xx (album)? The title it stylized as "Xx (album)". + m t 20:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
How this thing works? There is an issue with the Turkish one. When the address is "İPhone" it works (title becomes "iPhone"). But when the address is "IPhone" then the title doesn't become "iPhone". (The Turkish letters: İi Iı. The English letters: Ii) tr:IPhone, tr:Şablon:küçük harf -- Kirov Airship ( talk) 13:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Can the documentation be updated in some way to show that the lowercase template also works/is needed for lowercase in other alphabets such as Greek (I figure that Hebrew and Arabic have no lower case, does Cyrllic also need the template)?
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I think it is unnecessary for the template page to be with a lowercase title, so it would be better if the actual template markup was placed in "includeonly" tags. Radoslav Georgiev ( talk) 08:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
See xALBUMx as an example. This template does not work for this article title. There's an interference with whatever makes album titles to have Italic titles and thus cancels out the effects for making the first letter of the title of the article lowercase. • GunMetal Angel 16:14, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
I tried {{DISPLAYTITLE:''net''}} in net (magazine) but it still doesn't lowercase the first letter. So the example is still wrong. JMP EAX ( talk) 19:15, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
-Fimatic ( talk | contribs) 00:41, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
I have been trying to use the {{DISPLAYNAME}} syntax to make the second word in this article: /info/en/?search=Disconnected_Youth lowercase. The article title should be "Disconnected youth" ... and the {{lowercase title}} syntax only makes the first letter of the first word lowercase. Thank you for your help/advice/bug fix. Lusty Mercantilist ( talk) 17:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
“Simply add the tag at the beginning of a page” works only on en.wikipedia – apparently, these are translated in other versions. So, how do I find out the de.wikipedia name for this template? annoyed
mirabilos (
talk) 18:36, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Lowercase has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
A protected redirect, Template:Lowercase , needs redirect category ( rcat) templates added. Please modify it as follows:
#REDIRECT [[Template:Lowercase title]]
#REDIRECT [[Template:Lowercase title]] {{Redr|from move|from template shortcut}}
Template Redr is an alias for the {{ This is a redirect}} template, which is used to sort redirects into one or more categories. No protection rcat is needed, and if {{ pp-protected}} and/or {{ pp-move}} suffice, the This is a redirect template will detect the protection level(s) and categorize the redirect automatically. (The categories will also be automatically removed when and if protection is lifted.) Thank you in advance! – Paine 18:10, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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Nest the span tags within includeonly tags so that the template page displays "Template:Lowercase title" instead of "Template:lowercase title". GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 23:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Template:R from Java package name is a template for which the including pages should all start with lowercase letters, but the template's own title shouldn't. But even though it includes the lowercase-title template inside a <includeonly> tag, the lowercase title ends up also applying to the template itself. How can we fix this? Neon Merlin 06:03, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
An editor has been going around putting {{ lowercase title}} on articles whose names start "Untitled", and I don't understand his explanation. Please join the discussion at Talk:Untitled Amazon motoring show. – Smyth\ talk 11:34, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Do we have any categories that keep track of pages which do this?
I notice that xxxHolic does it manually via DISPLAYTITLE because it is also italicized, so I can't simply check where the lowercase title template is used since it is not always used when lowercasing is done.
Where could Template:Hidden category be put? Trying to think of a name. Category:Articles with a decapitalized first letter perhaps? ScratchMarshall ( talk) 03:29, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Template:Lower case first letter italic title has been nominated for deletion. Feedback welcome. – Uanfala (talk) 17:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
This has already been brought up and seemingly addressed in
2009, however, the template still produces an extra empty paragraph (consisting of HTML <p><span></span></p>
) in some articles. Examples:
de Havilland Mosquito,
ed (text editor), and
uMkhuze Game Reserve. I suggest switching
Template:Lowercase title to use a self-closed <nowiki />
tag:
Special:Diff/772147368/986791242. This is the solution used in templates {{
Dated maintenance category}}, {{
User:MiszaBot/config}}, {{
Taxobox}}, and others. If there are no objections, I will implement the change next week. —
andrybak (
talk) 01:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
i've done exactly as instructed, but it fails to work.
see page:
https://karaoke.kjams.com/wiki/KJams.Cue
davec (
talk) 21:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Lowercase title template. |
|
Archives: 1 |
Go to Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Lowercase for a list of the pages that have lowercase initial letters.
{{
editprotected}}
Some editors might prefer to include a blank line between top-of-page templates and the first line of actual text in order to improve readability in the edit box; for example:
{{lowercase}} '''eBay Inc.''' is an [[United States|American]] [[Internet]] company...
In the case of {{
Lowercase}}, doing so would result in extra whitespace appearing at the top of the article. Following some experimentation, I believe that this may be fixed by enclosing the transcluded content in a <span style="visibility:hidden">
tag. Thus, I propose that the source of the template be changed from:
{{DISPLAYTITLE:{{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{NAMESPACE}}:|}}{{lcfirst:{{PAGENAME}}}}}}<noinclude> {{pp-template|small=yes}} {{documentation}} </noinclude>
to:
<span style="visibility:hidden">{{DISPLAYTITLE:{{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{NAMESPACE}}:|}}{{lcfirst:{{PAGENAME}}}}}}</span><noinclude> {{pp-template|small=yes}} {{documentation}} </noinclude>
Thanks! Melissa 4.0 ( talk) 18:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Strange, the article writes >>Simply add the tag {{lowercase title}} at the top of a page<<
but the eBay example only has: >>{{pp-move-indef}}{{lowercase}}<<
, i.e. no " title" part.
Should the article be shortened by title? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.80.22.6 ( talk) 17:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
How do I install this template on my wiki? Etherfox ( talk) 19:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
This message is to inform people monitoring this talk page that there is an "editprotected" request involving this and several other templates at Template talk:! cymru.lass (hit me up)⁄ (background check) 20:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Note that if both this template and the italic title template are used on one page, such as at Www.tism.wanker.com, the title is italicised but does not begin with a lowercase letter. I suspect it will take a fair bit of time and effort to figure out why this occurs; does anyone know why and how to correct it? GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 16:55, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Why doesn't this template work on xx (album)? The title it stylized as "Xx (album)". + m t 20:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
How this thing works? There is an issue with the Turkish one. When the address is "İPhone" it works (title becomes "iPhone"). But when the address is "IPhone" then the title doesn't become "iPhone". (The Turkish letters: İi Iı. The English letters: Ii) tr:IPhone, tr:Şablon:küçük harf -- Kirov Airship ( talk) 13:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Can the documentation be updated in some way to show that the lowercase template also works/is needed for lowercase in other alphabets such as Greek (I figure that Hebrew and Arabic have no lower case, does Cyrllic also need the template)?
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I think it is unnecessary for the template page to be with a lowercase title, so it would be better if the actual template markup was placed in "includeonly" tags. Radoslav Georgiev ( talk) 08:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
See xALBUMx as an example. This template does not work for this article title. There's an interference with whatever makes album titles to have Italic titles and thus cancels out the effects for making the first letter of the title of the article lowercase. • GunMetal Angel 16:14, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
I tried {{DISPLAYTITLE:''net''}} in net (magazine) but it still doesn't lowercase the first letter. So the example is still wrong. JMP EAX ( talk) 19:15, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
-Fimatic ( talk | contribs) 00:41, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
I have been trying to use the {{DISPLAYNAME}} syntax to make the second word in this article: /info/en/?search=Disconnected_Youth lowercase. The article title should be "Disconnected youth" ... and the {{lowercase title}} syntax only makes the first letter of the first word lowercase. Thank you for your help/advice/bug fix. Lusty Mercantilist ( talk) 17:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
“Simply add the tag at the beginning of a page” works only on en.wikipedia – apparently, these are translated in other versions. So, how do I find out the de.wikipedia name for this template? annoyed
mirabilos (
talk) 18:36, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Lowercase has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
A protected redirect, Template:Lowercase , needs redirect category ( rcat) templates added. Please modify it as follows:
#REDIRECT [[Template:Lowercase title]]
#REDIRECT [[Template:Lowercase title]] {{Redr|from move|from template shortcut}}
Template Redr is an alias for the {{ This is a redirect}} template, which is used to sort redirects into one or more categories. No protection rcat is needed, and if {{ pp-protected}} and/or {{ pp-move}} suffice, the This is a redirect template will detect the protection level(s) and categorize the redirect automatically. (The categories will also be automatically removed when and if protection is lifted.) Thank you in advance! – Paine 18:10, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Nest the span tags within includeonly tags so that the template page displays "Template:Lowercase title" instead of "Template:lowercase title". GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 23:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Template:R from Java package name is a template for which the including pages should all start with lowercase letters, but the template's own title shouldn't. But even though it includes the lowercase-title template inside a <includeonly> tag, the lowercase title ends up also applying to the template itself. How can we fix this? Neon Merlin 06:03, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
An editor has been going around putting {{ lowercase title}} on articles whose names start "Untitled", and I don't understand his explanation. Please join the discussion at Talk:Untitled Amazon motoring show. – Smyth\ talk 11:34, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Do we have any categories that keep track of pages which do this?
I notice that xxxHolic does it manually via DISPLAYTITLE because it is also italicized, so I can't simply check where the lowercase title template is used since it is not always used when lowercasing is done.
Where could Template:Hidden category be put? Trying to think of a name. Category:Articles with a decapitalized first letter perhaps? ScratchMarshall ( talk) 03:29, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Template:Lower case first letter italic title has been nominated for deletion. Feedback welcome. – Uanfala (talk) 17:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
This has already been brought up and seemingly addressed in
2009, however, the template still produces an extra empty paragraph (consisting of HTML <p><span></span></p>
) in some articles. Examples:
de Havilland Mosquito,
ed (text editor), and
uMkhuze Game Reserve. I suggest switching
Template:Lowercase title to use a self-closed <nowiki />
tag:
Special:Diff/772147368/986791242. This is the solution used in templates {{
Dated maintenance category}}, {{
User:MiszaBot/config}}, {{
Taxobox}}, and others. If there are no objections, I will implement the change next week. —
andrybak (
talk) 01:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
i've done exactly as instructed, but it fails to work.
see page:
https://karaoke.kjams.com/wiki/KJams.Cue
davec (
talk) 21:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)