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good work man :) Ammar 08:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Ammar. Publicus 11:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Asayesh should be added to the list.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Ashbāl has been mistranslated in the media as Boy Scout. The Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic defines shibl (plural ashbāl اشبال) as meaning "lion cub; a capable young man, brave youth, young athlete." Compare with Ashbal Saddam (Saddam's Lion Cubs). ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 08:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I think that there is a big and confusing overlap in the information in this template between insurgency groups and Militia groups. Editors on Wikipedia I think have fairly argued that insurgent is now a less used than terms like militia and I think that there may be an argument to drop the title insurgent all together. I think that it is also of note that Islamist is a more commonly used term for many of the groups involved than jihadist and perhaps this could be used.
Propose placing all the "insurgents" contents into a unified militia section which could be listed as either "insurgents, militias and others" or just "militias and others" or "militias" or something else. Perhaps a third column of information could be added for each sectarian category as necessary. I would suggest that a division for "Sunni militias" could be presented as either "Pro-government" and "Against government" or by similar wording.
As far as I have seen the war constitutes a conflict in Sunni-Shia relations which has a major overlap as a pro/anti government civil war. I don't think that a distinction between insurgents and militias, if such a thing exists, is helpful.
I have recently placed the insurgent and militia contents together to aide more easy comparison.
GregKaye ✍♪ 11:29, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
For these reason, I oppose because militia and insurgent are not synonymous. -- Mr. Guye ( talk) 19:46, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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good work man :) Ammar 08:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Ammar. Publicus 11:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Asayesh should be added to the list.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Ashbāl has been mistranslated in the media as Boy Scout. The Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic defines shibl (plural ashbāl اشبال) as meaning "lion cub; a capable young man, brave youth, young athlete." Compare with Ashbal Saddam (Saddam's Lion Cubs). ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 08:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I think that there is a big and confusing overlap in the information in this template between insurgency groups and Militia groups. Editors on Wikipedia I think have fairly argued that insurgent is now a less used than terms like militia and I think that there may be an argument to drop the title insurgent all together. I think that it is also of note that Islamist is a more commonly used term for many of the groups involved than jihadist and perhaps this could be used.
Propose placing all the "insurgents" contents into a unified militia section which could be listed as either "insurgents, militias and others" or just "militias and others" or "militias" or something else. Perhaps a third column of information could be added for each sectarian category as necessary. I would suggest that a division for "Sunni militias" could be presented as either "Pro-government" and "Against government" or by similar wording.
As far as I have seen the war constitutes a conflict in Sunni-Shia relations which has a major overlap as a pro/anti government civil war. I don't think that a distinction between insurgents and militias, if such a thing exists, is helpful.
I have recently placed the insurgent and militia contents together to aide more easy comparison.
GregKaye ✍♪ 11:29, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
For these reason, I oppose because militia and insurgent are not synonymous. -- Mr. Guye ( talk) 19:46, 1 January 2015 (UTC)