![]() |
Template:Wikinews is permanently
protected from editing because it is a
heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by
consensus, editors may use {{
edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's
documentation to add usage notes or
categories.
Any contributor may edit the template's sandbox. Functionality of the template can be checked using test cases. |
![]() | Wikipedia Template‑class | ||||||
|
![]() | Current events | |||
|
For example it could say: "To view news related to this article from our sister project, WikiNews, please see: [insert name of topic here]"
I think this would put the template to much better use.
instead of {{Wikinews|Canada}} -- 82.159.136.235
Quit the revert war without discussion. I'll ask that this template be protected if the revert war doesn't stop.
As my subject line suggests, I don't like the colored version, and am reverting it. If you want to explain why the colored version is better, do that on the talk page and try to reach a consensus between editors. BlankVerse ∅ 22:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
![]() |
[[Wikinews:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]
|
It's not mine, someone created it on Live 8, but I like it. It's more colouful and eye-catching. Seeing as it's designed to drive traffic to Wikinews, eye-catching is good. Dan100 ( Talk) 22:36, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Good idea, Blankverse, thank you. Dan100 ( Talk) 06:35, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
usability involves good design - oh absolutely. However I just don't think you right in this particular instance. If each project had a different-looking template I don't think that would harm their usability at all. From my point of view, the project templates are intended to drive traffic to the various other Wikimedia projects - and having different individual templates would help that. Dan100 ( Talk) 14:34, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
This template is currently used in a number of places to link to specific Wikinews articles rather than categories or general articles. The wording of the current template is not really conducive to this, as it implies that the Wikinews article is "related" to the Wikipedia article rather than about a specific point in the Wikipedia article, and, most importantly, does not name the date of the Wikinews story which I think is rather essential when linking to old articles.
I propose to create a new template, something like "Wikinews article", which takes two parameters, the article title and the article date, and to help migrate template usage in this area. Are there any objections? -- Fastfission 23:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
If put in an un-ordered list it acts strangly.
*
Bawolff 04:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
{{
Wikinews}}
don't work in bulleted lists and generate a
Multiline table in list lint error. Do not use this template in a bulleted list. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
11:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)Hi,
When trying to use this template, I noted that the search function of WikiNews is totally out of date. As such, this template is completely useless: e.g. if I wanted to insert {{wikinews}} into article Pluto, the link would return nothing (or old articles with the word Pluto). Instead, {{wikinews|article tilte}} is used much more, because of course that DOES work, but if future news is published on Pluto, articles had to be listed again and again in the template on article Pluto.
I propose a radical solution: we use Google instead of our own search function. It's up to date and this is the most important thing for news. This can be undone if our searchtool is up to date again.
I'm proposing Template:WNGoogle. I don't have the skills to make it work both for keywords and specific titles, I suggest it to be used only for keywords.
Please comment. -- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 14:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I've tried to use WNGoogle on an article, and realised that it was just not a good idea: Google lists talk pages, user pages, and isn't up-to-date by the minute either. So I've proposed WNGoogle for deletion. What I will do is change Template:Wikinews to use the {{PAGENAME}} magic word, because now the intro just doesn't make sense.
However, the problems remain: it would be nice to have a link to all on some key topics, like Mahmoud Amhedinajad, Iran, Bush, obesity, ... WNGoogle wasn't the right solution, I think there needs to be a solution on the WikiNews side. Maybe we could create more specific categories? Or use more infoboxes.-- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 11:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the image should be changed to SVG. Cristan 12:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
Please make a minor change to this template to allow for more flexible spacing. The lines:
</div> <noinclude>{{clear}}
should be combined to form:
</div><noinclude>{{clear}}
This will remove the automatically added line break, fixing spacing issues on pages such as Emergency contraception. — Remember the dot ( talk) 04:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Please use Image:Wikinews-logo.svg instead of Image:WikiNews-Logo.svg. – rotemliss – Talk 17:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
The current template says
Wikinews has news related to:
- Headline_of_the_news
That's a weird wording. What's on the headline is the news, not related to the news. Rather, shouldn't it be as follows?
Wikinews has news related to Article_name_in_pedia at:
- Headline_of_the_news
-- 朝彦 (Asahiko) 08:27, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please make it so when the Wikinews logo is clicked, instead of going to the image description page, it goes to the corresponding Wikinews page.--
penubag (
talk)
07:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
The article MV Sirius Star has formating problems that disappear when this template is removed. If you remove {{wikinews|Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker}} from the article, the text in the highjacking section doesn't have a big gap. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks. Ann arbor street ( talk) 06:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
`' Míkka >t 17:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
This template was used in
this version of the
Willamette Week article between two items in a bullet list, and (this is key) without a line break between the template and the end of the first bullet item. That use produced an unintended result, i.e. the box around the item was missing and the text within the box was not floated along the right side. After some experimentation it was easy to work around this problem, but it would be better if either the {{
sister}} template were fixed to not exhibit this layout behavior (sorry, I can't be more specific) or if this limitation could be documented at
Template:Sister/doc. This issue may be years old, since its similar to the one mentioned
here on this talk page in 2006 in the following example:
The following text
* {{wikinews|Look at me! Out of my box!}}
produces this output:
*
Thanks in advance. 68.167.254.158 ( talk) 02:44, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
but see {[Tl|Wikinews-inline}} which is deliberately boxless.
{{
Wikinews}}
don't work in bulleted lists and generate a
Multiline table in list lint error. Do not use this template in a bulleted list. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
11:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)The table that shows if you view the doc file separately is not showing up properly when transcluded. I don't know how to fix this though. Calebrw ( talk) 23:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't understand why this template is being used in Wikipedia. The rules for wikinews differs from Wikipedia. The only reference I could find to its use, points to WP:SPS suggesting that it is sometimes "self-published" material and not necessarily verifiable. Why would we want to promote another wiki site? Hopefully, not because it has "wiki-" in front of it! :) Student7 ( talk) 21:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Is there a way to make this template appear on the left side of an article, instead of the right? Cirt ( talk) 14:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
{{sister |project=wikinews |position={{{position|}}} |text=[[Wikinews]] has related news: '''''[[Wikinews:{{{1|Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}}}}|{{{2|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}]]''''' }}<noinclude> {{documentation}} <!-- Add cats and interwikis to the /doc subpage, not here! --> </noinclude>
Which would make the position parameter determine which side of the article the template falls on. Bawolff ( talk) 19:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to discuss what value linking to Wikinews adds to Wikipedia articles – Is it just for the sake of driving traffic to a sister site as seems to be implied in the thread above, or is there any other reason? It seems that WN recycles news from the same sources we use here. The coverage of our articles, where there are similar WN topics, is more often than not wider and deeper than anything they can hope to achieve. So it's not as if they have access to better sources, or that their articles are better researched or better written. It really begs the question what value these WN links add... -- Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
We need a version of this template that can link to wikinews in different languages, like {{ Wikiquotelang}} and such. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
{{Edit protected}}
Because
Template:Wikinews/doc contains Wikinews interwikies and it is used in several similar templates, it screws other interwikies such as
Template:Wikinewspar2. Like par2 template, we should move interwikies from doc to template article. --
kwan-in (
talk)
17:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Where multiple Wikinews articles are linked to, the list of articles should be a bulleted one. For example at Jennifer Hudson#2008: Winnie and family murders it is difficult to tell at a glance how many articles are linked, nor where the break between headlines is. Note: This comment relates to template:Wikinewspar2 but this talkpage appears to be more watched. Thryduulf ( talk) 12:23, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The functionality that lets one link to a Wikinews search page is very bad form. It encourages inclusion of links where nothing relevant exists at Wikinews, and, due to relatively short search strings, is likely to give highly irrelevant results. The functionality should be removed, or at least given a category that notes an almost-certainly-bad use of the template, so it can be reviewed and removed or replaced with a direct link. Linking to search pages is an explicit violation of WP:EL Adam Cuerden ( talk) 20:15, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Wikinews/sandbox is the simplest change. Basically, the original template links to a search on Wikinews for the page name if parameter 1 isn't specified. This edit adds a category to pages using this, so we can evaluate if there is a problem, and offers the ability to suppress the category by adding |searchgood=yes
.
Once it's possible to check the usages, we can make changes as necessary. There may be some cases where a dumb search works, but there's no way to know until we can actually see pages that use the functionality. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 23:22, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The secret, undocumented search option gives really terrible results. I just reviewed all usage of this secret fuctionality (there were only 5 in article space), and couldn't find one that was remotely useful - it's just a base search, so, for example, Occupy wall street gave results that contain - in separate places in the article - the words "occupies" "walls" and "street". It's not useful, so I propose the template code be changed to the following, which gives a standard-format warning if used without a parameter. This should not affect any valid usage, and has been tested:
Edit page, then copy-paste
<!--Copy-paste from here--> <includeonly>{{#if:{{{1|}}}|</includeonly> {{sister | project = wikinews | position = {{{position|}}} | text = Wikinews has related news: '''''[[wikinews: {{{1|Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}}}}| {{{2|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}]]''''' }}<includeonly>|<font color=red>'''The template {{tl|Wikinews}} requires a link to an article. To link to a category, use {{tl|Wikinews category}}.</font>}}</includeonly><noinclude> {{documentation}} <!-- Add cats to the /doc subpage and interwikis to Wikidata, not here! --> </noinclude> <!---Stop copy-paste--->
<span class="error">foo</span>
instead of the <font>
tag.
μc8 (
talk)
06:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Wikinews as a project is essentially dead: output is slow and article quality is often poor. Clearly, it would not be considered a WP:RS by most standards. Should the use of this template, and linking to Wikinews articles, be discouraged? feminist ( talk) 04:34, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please change subtemplate call {{ blist}} to {{ bulleted list}} to avoid following an unnecessary template redirect in this widely used template. Colonies Chris ( talk) 09:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
![]() |
Template:Wikinews is permanently
protected from editing because it is a
heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by
consensus, editors may use {{
edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's
documentation to add usage notes or
categories.
Any contributor may edit the template's sandbox. Functionality of the template can be checked using test cases. |
![]() | Wikipedia Template‑class | ||||||
|
![]() | Current events | |||
|
For example it could say: "To view news related to this article from our sister project, WikiNews, please see: [insert name of topic here]"
I think this would put the template to much better use.
instead of {{Wikinews|Canada}} -- 82.159.136.235
Quit the revert war without discussion. I'll ask that this template be protected if the revert war doesn't stop.
As my subject line suggests, I don't like the colored version, and am reverting it. If you want to explain why the colored version is better, do that on the talk page and try to reach a consensus between editors. BlankVerse ∅ 22:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
![]() |
[[Wikinews:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]
|
It's not mine, someone created it on Live 8, but I like it. It's more colouful and eye-catching. Seeing as it's designed to drive traffic to Wikinews, eye-catching is good. Dan100 ( Talk) 22:36, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Good idea, Blankverse, thank you. Dan100 ( Talk) 06:35, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
usability involves good design - oh absolutely. However I just don't think you right in this particular instance. If each project had a different-looking template I don't think that would harm their usability at all. From my point of view, the project templates are intended to drive traffic to the various other Wikimedia projects - and having different individual templates would help that. Dan100 ( Talk) 14:34, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
This template is currently used in a number of places to link to specific Wikinews articles rather than categories or general articles. The wording of the current template is not really conducive to this, as it implies that the Wikinews article is "related" to the Wikipedia article rather than about a specific point in the Wikipedia article, and, most importantly, does not name the date of the Wikinews story which I think is rather essential when linking to old articles.
I propose to create a new template, something like "Wikinews article", which takes two parameters, the article title and the article date, and to help migrate template usage in this area. Are there any objections? -- Fastfission 23:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
If put in an un-ordered list it acts strangly.
*
Bawolff 04:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
{{
Wikinews}}
don't work in bulleted lists and generate a
Multiline table in list lint error. Do not use this template in a bulleted list. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
11:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)Hi,
When trying to use this template, I noted that the search function of WikiNews is totally out of date. As such, this template is completely useless: e.g. if I wanted to insert {{wikinews}} into article Pluto, the link would return nothing (or old articles with the word Pluto). Instead, {{wikinews|article tilte}} is used much more, because of course that DOES work, but if future news is published on Pluto, articles had to be listed again and again in the template on article Pluto.
I propose a radical solution: we use Google instead of our own search function. It's up to date and this is the most important thing for news. This can be undone if our searchtool is up to date again.
I'm proposing Template:WNGoogle. I don't have the skills to make it work both for keywords and specific titles, I suggest it to be used only for keywords.
Please comment. -- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 14:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I've tried to use WNGoogle on an article, and realised that it was just not a good idea: Google lists talk pages, user pages, and isn't up-to-date by the minute either. So I've proposed WNGoogle for deletion. What I will do is change Template:Wikinews to use the {{PAGENAME}} magic word, because now the intro just doesn't make sense.
However, the problems remain: it would be nice to have a link to all on some key topics, like Mahmoud Amhedinajad, Iran, Bush, obesity, ... WNGoogle wasn't the right solution, I think there needs to be a solution on the WikiNews side. Maybe we could create more specific categories? Or use more infoboxes.-- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 11:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the image should be changed to SVG. Cristan 12:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
Please make a minor change to this template to allow for more flexible spacing. The lines:
</div> <noinclude>{{clear}}
should be combined to form:
</div><noinclude>{{clear}}
This will remove the automatically added line break, fixing spacing issues on pages such as Emergency contraception. — Remember the dot ( talk) 04:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Please use Image:Wikinews-logo.svg instead of Image:WikiNews-Logo.svg. – rotemliss – Talk 17:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
The current template says
Wikinews has news related to:
- Headline_of_the_news
That's a weird wording. What's on the headline is the news, not related to the news. Rather, shouldn't it be as follows?
Wikinews has news related to Article_name_in_pedia at:
- Headline_of_the_news
-- 朝彦 (Asahiko) 08:27, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please make it so when the Wikinews logo is clicked, instead of going to the image description page, it goes to the corresponding Wikinews page.--
penubag (
talk)
07:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
The article MV Sirius Star has formating problems that disappear when this template is removed. If you remove {{wikinews|Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker}} from the article, the text in the highjacking section doesn't have a big gap. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks. Ann arbor street ( talk) 06:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
`' Míkka >t 17:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
This template was used in
this version of the
Willamette Week article between two items in a bullet list, and (this is key) without a line break between the template and the end of the first bullet item. That use produced an unintended result, i.e. the box around the item was missing and the text within the box was not floated along the right side. After some experimentation it was easy to work around this problem, but it would be better if either the {{
sister}} template were fixed to not exhibit this layout behavior (sorry, I can't be more specific) or if this limitation could be documented at
Template:Sister/doc. This issue may be years old, since its similar to the one mentioned
here on this talk page in 2006 in the following example:
The following text
* {{wikinews|Look at me! Out of my box!}}
produces this output:
*
Thanks in advance. 68.167.254.158 ( talk) 02:44, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
but see {[Tl|Wikinews-inline}} which is deliberately boxless.
{{
Wikinews}}
don't work in bulleted lists and generate a
Multiline table in list lint error. Do not use this template in a bulleted list. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
11:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)The table that shows if you view the doc file separately is not showing up properly when transcluded. I don't know how to fix this though. Calebrw ( talk) 23:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't understand why this template is being used in Wikipedia. The rules for wikinews differs from Wikipedia. The only reference I could find to its use, points to WP:SPS suggesting that it is sometimes "self-published" material and not necessarily verifiable. Why would we want to promote another wiki site? Hopefully, not because it has "wiki-" in front of it! :) Student7 ( talk) 21:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Is there a way to make this template appear on the left side of an article, instead of the right? Cirt ( talk) 14:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
{{sister |project=wikinews |position={{{position|}}} |text=[[Wikinews]] has related news: '''''[[Wikinews:{{{1|Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}}}}|{{{2|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}]]''''' }}<noinclude> {{documentation}} <!-- Add cats and interwikis to the /doc subpage, not here! --> </noinclude>
Which would make the position parameter determine which side of the article the template falls on. Bawolff ( talk) 19:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to discuss what value linking to Wikinews adds to Wikipedia articles – Is it just for the sake of driving traffic to a sister site as seems to be implied in the thread above, or is there any other reason? It seems that WN recycles news from the same sources we use here. The coverage of our articles, where there are similar WN topics, is more often than not wider and deeper than anything they can hope to achieve. So it's not as if they have access to better sources, or that their articles are better researched or better written. It really begs the question what value these WN links add... -- Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
We need a version of this template that can link to wikinews in different languages, like {{ Wikiquotelang}} and such. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
{{Edit protected}}
Because
Template:Wikinews/doc contains Wikinews interwikies and it is used in several similar templates, it screws other interwikies such as
Template:Wikinewspar2. Like par2 template, we should move interwikies from doc to template article. --
kwan-in (
talk)
17:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Where multiple Wikinews articles are linked to, the list of articles should be a bulleted one. For example at Jennifer Hudson#2008: Winnie and family murders it is difficult to tell at a glance how many articles are linked, nor where the break between headlines is. Note: This comment relates to template:Wikinewspar2 but this talkpage appears to be more watched. Thryduulf ( talk) 12:23, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The functionality that lets one link to a Wikinews search page is very bad form. It encourages inclusion of links where nothing relevant exists at Wikinews, and, due to relatively short search strings, is likely to give highly irrelevant results. The functionality should be removed, or at least given a category that notes an almost-certainly-bad use of the template, so it can be reviewed and removed or replaced with a direct link. Linking to search pages is an explicit violation of WP:EL Adam Cuerden ( talk) 20:15, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Template:Wikinews/sandbox is the simplest change. Basically, the original template links to a search on Wikinews for the page name if parameter 1 isn't specified. This edit adds a category to pages using this, so we can evaluate if there is a problem, and offers the ability to suppress the category by adding |searchgood=yes
.
Once it's possible to check the usages, we can make changes as necessary. There may be some cases where a dumb search works, but there's no way to know until we can actually see pages that use the functionality. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 23:22, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The secret, undocumented search option gives really terrible results. I just reviewed all usage of this secret fuctionality (there were only 5 in article space), and couldn't find one that was remotely useful - it's just a base search, so, for example, Occupy wall street gave results that contain - in separate places in the article - the words "occupies" "walls" and "street". It's not useful, so I propose the template code be changed to the following, which gives a standard-format warning if used without a parameter. This should not affect any valid usage, and has been tested:
Edit page, then copy-paste
<!--Copy-paste from here--> <includeonly>{{#if:{{{1|}}}|</includeonly> {{sister | project = wikinews | position = {{{position|}}} | text = Wikinews has related news: '''''[[wikinews: {{{1|Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}}}}| {{{2|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}]]''''' }}<includeonly>|<font color=red>'''The template {{tl|Wikinews}} requires a link to an article. To link to a category, use {{tl|Wikinews category}}.</font>}}</includeonly><noinclude> {{documentation}} <!-- Add cats to the /doc subpage and interwikis to Wikidata, not here! --> </noinclude> <!---Stop copy-paste--->
<span class="error">foo</span>
instead of the <font>
tag.
μc8 (
talk)
06:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Wikinews as a project is essentially dead: output is slow and article quality is often poor. Clearly, it would not be considered a WP:RS by most standards. Should the use of this template, and linking to Wikinews articles, be discouraged? feminist ( talk) 04:34, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please change subtemplate call {{ blist}} to {{ bulleted list}} to avoid following an unnecessary template redirect in this widely used template. Colonies Chris ( talk) 09:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)