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To editor Wbm1058: Is this edit a test of some kind? It throws an error on this page only in the This is a redirect/rcat template and not in the individual usage example below it. I wonder what the story is behind it? What's in your palette? Paine 10:28, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
<includeonly>...</includeonly>
– the text between the includeonly tags will be transcluded (substituted), but will not be processed on the template's own page.Long time since I last checked in here. I just noticed a problem with the redirect The Bounty. It's tagged with {{ R from incomplete disambiguation}} as it redirects to a disambiguation page Bounty. However Talk:The Bounty redirects to Talk:The Bounty (1984 film). If The Bounty itself was the disambiguation, then {{ disambiguation}} or a related dab template would be populating Category:Unsynchronized disambiguation talk pages so my Bot1058 would eventually fix it. I could make a similar edit to {{ R from incomplete disambiguation}}, and upon detecting that the talk page redirected to another page, replace that with {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} that would show the message: This redirect is within the scope of WikiProject Disambiguation, ...
Now if this redirected to Talk:Bounty, there would be nothing technically wrong with that, but I don't see any harm with changing it to display the {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} tag rather than redirect. We would at least ensure the redirect was not to the wrong page. @ Paine Ellsworth and Steel1943: any comments, before I boldly implement this? wbm1058 ( talk) 00:08, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
A lot of the talk pages for these are red links, so my proposed template change would do nothing. On the other hand, I just found that RussBot may fix these by redirecting to the talk page of the dab. I see from RussBot task 2 that this appears to have been a one-time run in 2009, based on a database dump. Using a template to populate a category would give us a real-time solution that wasn't dependent on getting database dumps. Maybe I can check where the talk page redirects and only categorize the ones redirecting to the wrong page. wbm1058 ( talk) 00:25, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Hmm, Module:Redirect#GetTarget fetches the target page name of a redirect page, and is only usable from Lua. bugzilla:66974 asks for a better way to get the target of a redirect page. Maybe I need to get more proficient with Lua to do that. Or surely there must be a way for the Lua function to return its results to a template? wbm1058 ( talk) 00:42, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
{{#invoke:redirect|main|
to find the target page of the redirect. Duh, that's the main function of the module! Slapping myself for not seeing that. Then again, it's confusing that the module redirect functions entirely differently than the template redirect which functions entirely differently than the #REDIRECT [[target page name here]]
syntax.
wbm1058 (
talk)
15:25, 18 May 2017 (UTC)@ Uanfala and Paine Ellsworth: So, it seems like the best solution to this is to follow what Paine did with the sister category Category:Unsynchronized talk page redirects, and redirect the talk page of the redirect to the talk page of the disambiguation, if that page exists, and only put the two templates {{ Talk page of a redirect}} and {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} on the page when we can't redirect because the talk page of the dab is a red link. I think that most of the time that page will not be a red link. Can we not get too picky about putting the {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} template on human name pages and such pseudo-disambiguation pages? Feel free to fix that after my bot leaves the wrong tag. So, if this is OK, I think I'm ready to undo the pages I've already put {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} tags on, and change them to redirects. wbm1058 ( talk) 21:54, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
@ Uanfala and Paine Ellsworth: FYI. BRFA filed. – wbm1058 ( talk) 14:50, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
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Please remove the {{
Tfm/dated}}
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Nihlus
00:27, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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Please change " |all category=Redirects from incomplete disambiguations" to " |all category=Redirects from incomplete disambiguation", to match the current category. Thanks. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-3). 05:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
This template was considered for merging with Template:R from ambiguous term on 2018 January 16. The result of the discussion was "keep". |
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To editor Wbm1058: Is this edit a test of some kind? It throws an error on this page only in the This is a redirect/rcat template and not in the individual usage example below it. I wonder what the story is behind it? What's in your palette? Paine 10:28, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
<includeonly>...</includeonly>
– the text between the includeonly tags will be transcluded (substituted), but will not be processed on the template's own page.Long time since I last checked in here. I just noticed a problem with the redirect The Bounty. It's tagged with {{ R from incomplete disambiguation}} as it redirects to a disambiguation page Bounty. However Talk:The Bounty redirects to Talk:The Bounty (1984 film). If The Bounty itself was the disambiguation, then {{ disambiguation}} or a related dab template would be populating Category:Unsynchronized disambiguation talk pages so my Bot1058 would eventually fix it. I could make a similar edit to {{ R from incomplete disambiguation}}, and upon detecting that the talk page redirected to another page, replace that with {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} that would show the message: This redirect is within the scope of WikiProject Disambiguation, ...
Now if this redirected to Talk:Bounty, there would be nothing technically wrong with that, but I don't see any harm with changing it to display the {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} tag rather than redirect. We would at least ensure the redirect was not to the wrong page. @ Paine Ellsworth and Steel1943: any comments, before I boldly implement this? wbm1058 ( talk) 00:08, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
A lot of the talk pages for these are red links, so my proposed template change would do nothing. On the other hand, I just found that RussBot may fix these by redirecting to the talk page of the dab. I see from RussBot task 2 that this appears to have been a one-time run in 2009, based on a database dump. Using a template to populate a category would give us a real-time solution that wasn't dependent on getting database dumps. Maybe I can check where the talk page redirects and only categorize the ones redirecting to the wrong page. wbm1058 ( talk) 00:25, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Hmm, Module:Redirect#GetTarget fetches the target page name of a redirect page, and is only usable from Lua. bugzilla:66974 asks for a better way to get the target of a redirect page. Maybe I need to get more proficient with Lua to do that. Or surely there must be a way for the Lua function to return its results to a template? wbm1058 ( talk) 00:42, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
{{#invoke:redirect|main|
to find the target page of the redirect. Duh, that's the main function of the module! Slapping myself for not seeing that. Then again, it's confusing that the module redirect functions entirely differently than the template redirect which functions entirely differently than the #REDIRECT [[target page name here]]
syntax.
wbm1058 (
talk)
15:25, 18 May 2017 (UTC)@ Uanfala and Paine Ellsworth: So, it seems like the best solution to this is to follow what Paine did with the sister category Category:Unsynchronized talk page redirects, and redirect the talk page of the redirect to the talk page of the disambiguation, if that page exists, and only put the two templates {{ Talk page of a redirect}} and {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} on the page when we can't redirect because the talk page of the dab is a red link. I think that most of the time that page will not be a red link. Can we not get too picky about putting the {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} template on human name pages and such pseudo-disambiguation pages? Feel free to fix that after my bot leaves the wrong tag. So, if this is OK, I think I'm ready to undo the pages I've already put {{ WikiProject Disambiguation}} tags on, and change them to redirects. wbm1058 ( talk) 21:54, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
@ Uanfala and Paine Ellsworth: FYI. BRFA filed. – wbm1058 ( talk) 14:50, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please remove the {{
Tfm/dated}}
from the template.
Nihlus
00:27, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please change " |all category=Redirects from incomplete disambiguations" to " |all category=Redirects from incomplete disambiguation", to match the current category. Thanks. © Tbhotch ™ ( en-3). 05:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)