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This template has the habit of linking common terms and expressions given certain common parameters, such as President, Prime Minister, Monarch and Governor contrary to WP:OVERLINK. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 20:53, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Since there are former countries that existed multiple times, like Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1923 – 1940; 1956 – 1991) or Chechen-Inguish ASSR (1936 – 1944; 1957 – 1990), the template doesn't work in those. Can anyone find a solution? -- Pudeo ' 04:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I found a cheap solution just by adding the former date next to the earlier with <br/>1956–1991. But that won't fix the flag succession problem. -- Pudeo ' 04:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
The status text box has become a subject of controversy at Talk:East Germany by a number of users, including me. The status text is typically used to say that a certain state or territory was a client state, protectorate, or vassal state of another - while including such material in the article is acceptable, the inclusion of this in the status text box has caused serious problems.
I could probably identify more problems if I thought more about it, but these are the three major problems with the status text. I support the removal of the status text box from the infobox. However I support having an RfC on the matter, I would appreciate it if an administrator could be brought in to organize and draft an appropriate RfC that asks whether users "support" or "oppose" a proposition to remove the status text box for the reasons given above in my statement and other reasons that other users may provide.-- R-41 ( talk) 02:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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Is this limited? I entered more than 9 leaders in Kingdom of Pontus but it is only recognising the first 9 -- Michael Goodyear ( talk) 21:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
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The term
Commonwealth is (as its article explains) often used to describe a kind of
republic, but in contexts where the use of the word "Republic" in the government_type
field would be inaccurate and controversial (such as
The Protectorate).
As such, after line 182:
|Republic|Federal Republic|Federal republic=[[Republic]] {{#if:{{{_noautocat|<noinclude>yes</noinclude>}}}|| [[Category:Former republics|{{{common_name}}}, {{{year_start}}}]]}}
, in the {{#if:{{{government_type|}}}|{{#switch:{{ucfirst:{{{government_type}}}}}
section, please add a new line reading:
|Commonwealth|[[Commonwealth]]=[[Commonwealth]] {{#if:{{{_noautocat|<noinclude>yes</noinclude>}}}|| [[Category:Former republics|{{{common_name}}}, {{{year_start}}}]]}}
(I've wrapped both instances of this text for legibility, there should be a single space, rather than a line break in the middle.) This will enable the text
Commonwealth
to be displayed in these instances, but for the article to be added to the category
Category:Former republics and not to
Category:Former country articles requiring maintenance. —
OwenBlacker (
Talk) 22:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
See the results of this edit. It seems to me that the caption should be left justified, not centered. I'm not a CSS jock, though, and I'm on the road without my O'Reilly books and without the time to track down info on how to fix this online. Could someone please take a look at it? Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 04:11, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
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I am a bit horrified to find that Wikipedia is claiming Roanoke Colony to have been a "British colony" (sic). This is complete pants, as any reliable est ref will tell you. I have just discovered that it is this template causing the cock-up. It is translating Empire=England into British colony instead of English colony. The actual article text correctly pipes to the correct article:
Please rectify this fault, as WP:VERIFY is an official policy here at Wikipedia. -- Mais oui! ( talk) 17:02, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Using hyphens to bullet events ("- {{{") makes for poor readability because wrapped text extends all the way to the left of the respective column, obscuring and overpowering the bullet. Is there some reason that unordered (or ordered) lists aren't used for mark-up? Or at least a proper bullet character to stand out more? VєсrumЬа ► TALK 17:59, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
WP:TEMPLATECAT recommends against using templates to categorise articles. The current situation makes it difficult for editors to properly manually categorise articles. Shouldn't this feature be removed (after direct substitution of the categories in each article)? -- Paul_012 ( talk) 08:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
There is problem with this template on this page: Government of National Salvation. I try to fix problem, but one aggressive editor revert my changes all time: [1]. Problem is that if life span is described in infobox then infobox include this page into categories “States and territories established in 1941” and “States and territories disestablished in 1944”. This page speak about government and not about state or territory. Is there a way to remove this page from wrong categories without remove of life span from infobox? How this problem can be fixed? Nemambrata ( talk) 15:41, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm currently working with the article Roman Empire, on which this template appears. I'd like to make two minor suggestions aimed at improving reader-friendliness.
I'm not at all adept with template syntax, so I would rather not attempt these changes in such a widely used box, both because it might require consensus and because I don't want to screw it up. Thank you for your consideration. Cynwolfe ( talk) 17:47, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Life span? should be removed as an unfixable parameter.-- Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 15:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Yes it should. And what about this page - Government of National Salvation. that infobox is there, but that article was not country and infobox place it in categories for former countries. is there some better infobox for former government? Nemambrata ( talk) 12:34, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
{{Infobox former country/sandbox | native_name = ''Nouvelle-Calédonie'' | conventional_long_name = New Caledonia | common_name = New Caledonia | image_flag = Flag of New Caledonia.svg | alt_flag = Flag of France | image_flag2 = Flag of France.svg | alt_flag2 = FLNKS flag | flag_type = Flags of New Caledonia | image_coat = Coat of arms of New Caledonia.svg | symbol_type = Emblem | national_motto = "Terre de parole, terre de partage"<ref name="monde2">[http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2010/08/18/la-nouvelle-caledonie-se-dote-d-un-hymne-et-d-une-devise_1399996_823448.html La Nouvelle-Calédonie se dote d'un hymne et d'une devise - LeMonde.fr]</ref> | national_anthem = ''[[Soyons unis, devenons frères]]''<ref name="monde2"/> | image_map = New Caledonia in its region (special marker).svg | capital = [[Nouméa]] | largest_city = Nouméa | government_type = [[Dependent territory]] | legislature = [[Congress of New Caledonia|Congress]] | established_event1 = Annexed by France | year_start = 1999 | year_end = 2012 | currency = [[CFP franc]] | cctld = [[.nc]] | calling_code = 687 }}
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Many countries changed their flags over time, so having just one parameter is quite restrictive. Template:Infobox country can handle more than one flag, even though it deals with a present entity. Is there a simple way to alter the code here to get multiple flags? If not, perhaps the coding from Infobox country can just be copied over to replace the Flag/CoA code here. Seems to produce the same result. CMD ( talk) 04:31, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Some arcane bug in template language is making this template malfunction when called in page Dutch East Indies: it makes a line "[[Category:Former colonies|Dutch East Indies, Dutch Empire]]" appear before the infobox. The result seems to depend on the contents of the parameter "empire". Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 11:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed this template didn't have the same sort of linewrap handling for data following dashes (years or event names) as Infobox country, so I've tried to incorporate it in the version of the template here. If its accepted, I'll revist those pages I've seen with this template where manual attempts have been made to handle linewrapping (e.g. "<br/>{{nbsp|3}}") and amend accordingly. 213.246.114.240 ( talk) 19:17, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I've just discovered the "Edit protected" template [...]
To make the edit, the code in this section (everything before the "Hello. I noticed this template..." message) should replace the code the template apart from the final three lines, which should be:
|}<noinclude>
{{documentation}}
</noinclude>
Hope that makes sense. 213.246.114.240 ( talk) 18:22, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
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From looking at a few examples, it seems as though if a country was established or disestablished in a particular century, but a more precise year is unknown, the century is entered into the year_start or year_end field. This adds it to the correct category; however, the lifespan at the top is formatted incorrectly. It appears as, for example, "5th century–6th century", which looks bad and doesn't comply with MOS:DATE. It should be "5th century – 6th century" with a non-breaking space before the en-dash. If you added a new parameter for centuries (in addition to the current date and year ones), it could solve this problem. Rather than having to enter "5th century" into the year parameter, one could just enter "5" into the century parameter. Although, you'd also need some capability of specifying BCE if necessary. I don't know how the template works, but these extra parameters could simplify the automatic categories as well. McLerristarr | Mclay1 07:44, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, I've been trying to sort out the article for the Prince-Bishopric of Liège which ended in 1789, was reestablished in 1791, annexed by the French in 1792, lost and restablished in 1793 and finally annexed again in 1795. Unfortunately this is causing some problems with the template (end event). Could there be an end_date 2 (etc) like there is in the French language one? -- Brigade Piron ( talk) 16:07, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
This CfD recommended that the disestablishment categories for the 970s all be Category:States and territories disestablished in the 970s and not individual years. Could someone implement this? — Train2104 ( talk • contribs) 22:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
All {{ efn}} tags on the same line as "native_name =" will show nothing in their hover boxes. The only workaround is to put a carriage return between the equal sign and affected content — as all text on a following lines loses the parameter's styling. I have not observed this behaviour in other parameters (such as life_span).
I am trying to solve this, but I have little experience with wiki-language used to create templates. Any ideas?
—
Sowlos 09:19, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
There appears to be no "Demonym" parameter on this template. May somebody be as so kind as to add it? Thanks! Illegitimate Barrister ( talk) 12:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Please can someone who understands this template adjust it to merge the below categories before someone who doesn't tries? Thanks in advance. Timrollpickering ( talk) 00:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
year_start=321 BC
, it first looks to place the article in
Category:States and territories established in 321 BC. If that does not exist, it looks for
Category:States and territories established in the 320s BC. And if that doesn't exit, it uses
Category:States and territories established in the 4th century BC. Once this code goes live, you should be able to just delete the cats, and the template will figure where to re-cat the articles. If there are no objections, I'll copy the new code over so we can make it go live.
TDL (
talk) 04:27, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
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This template has the habit of linking common terms and expressions given certain common parameters, such as President, Prime Minister, Monarch and Governor contrary to WP:OVERLINK. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 20:53, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Since there are former countries that existed multiple times, like Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1923 – 1940; 1956 – 1991) or Chechen-Inguish ASSR (1936 – 1944; 1957 – 1990), the template doesn't work in those. Can anyone find a solution? -- Pudeo ' 04:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I found a cheap solution just by adding the former date next to the earlier with <br/>1956–1991. But that won't fix the flag succession problem. -- Pudeo ' 04:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
The status text box has become a subject of controversy at Talk:East Germany by a number of users, including me. The status text is typically used to say that a certain state or territory was a client state, protectorate, or vassal state of another - while including such material in the article is acceptable, the inclusion of this in the status text box has caused serious problems.
I could probably identify more problems if I thought more about it, but these are the three major problems with the status text. I support the removal of the status text box from the infobox. However I support having an RfC on the matter, I would appreciate it if an administrator could be brought in to organize and draft an appropriate RfC that asks whether users "support" or "oppose" a proposition to remove the status text box for the reasons given above in my statement and other reasons that other users may provide.-- R-41 ( talk) 02:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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Is this limited? I entered more than 9 leaders in Kingdom of Pontus but it is only recognising the first 9 -- Michael Goodyear ( talk) 21:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
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The term
Commonwealth is (as its article explains) often used to describe a kind of
republic, but in contexts where the use of the word "Republic" in the government_type
field would be inaccurate and controversial (such as
The Protectorate).
As such, after line 182:
|Republic|Federal Republic|Federal republic=[[Republic]] {{#if:{{{_noautocat|<noinclude>yes</noinclude>}}}|| [[Category:Former republics|{{{common_name}}}, {{{year_start}}}]]}}
, in the {{#if:{{{government_type|}}}|{{#switch:{{ucfirst:{{{government_type}}}}}
section, please add a new line reading:
|Commonwealth|[[Commonwealth]]=[[Commonwealth]] {{#if:{{{_noautocat|<noinclude>yes</noinclude>}}}|| [[Category:Former republics|{{{common_name}}}, {{{year_start}}}]]}}
(I've wrapped both instances of this text for legibility, there should be a single space, rather than a line break in the middle.) This will enable the text
Commonwealth
to be displayed in these instances, but for the article to be added to the category
Category:Former republics and not to
Category:Former country articles requiring maintenance. —
OwenBlacker (
Talk) 22:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
See the results of this edit. It seems to me that the caption should be left justified, not centered. I'm not a CSS jock, though, and I'm on the road without my O'Reilly books and without the time to track down info on how to fix this online. Could someone please take a look at it? Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 04:11, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
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I am a bit horrified to find that Wikipedia is claiming Roanoke Colony to have been a "British colony" (sic). This is complete pants, as any reliable est ref will tell you. I have just discovered that it is this template causing the cock-up. It is translating Empire=England into British colony instead of English colony. The actual article text correctly pipes to the correct article:
Please rectify this fault, as WP:VERIFY is an official policy here at Wikipedia. -- Mais oui! ( talk) 17:02, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Using hyphens to bullet events ("- {{{") makes for poor readability because wrapped text extends all the way to the left of the respective column, obscuring and overpowering the bullet. Is there some reason that unordered (or ordered) lists aren't used for mark-up? Or at least a proper bullet character to stand out more? VєсrumЬа ► TALK 17:59, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
WP:TEMPLATECAT recommends against using templates to categorise articles. The current situation makes it difficult for editors to properly manually categorise articles. Shouldn't this feature be removed (after direct substitution of the categories in each article)? -- Paul_012 ( talk) 08:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
There is problem with this template on this page: Government of National Salvation. I try to fix problem, but one aggressive editor revert my changes all time: [1]. Problem is that if life span is described in infobox then infobox include this page into categories “States and territories established in 1941” and “States and territories disestablished in 1944”. This page speak about government and not about state or territory. Is there a way to remove this page from wrong categories without remove of life span from infobox? How this problem can be fixed? Nemambrata ( talk) 15:41, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm currently working with the article Roman Empire, on which this template appears. I'd like to make two minor suggestions aimed at improving reader-friendliness.
I'm not at all adept with template syntax, so I would rather not attempt these changes in such a widely used box, both because it might require consensus and because I don't want to screw it up. Thank you for your consideration. Cynwolfe ( talk) 17:47, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Life span? should be removed as an unfixable parameter.-- Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 15:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Yes it should. And what about this page - Government of National Salvation. that infobox is there, but that article was not country and infobox place it in categories for former countries. is there some better infobox for former government? Nemambrata ( talk) 12:34, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
{{Infobox former country/sandbox | native_name = ''Nouvelle-Calédonie'' | conventional_long_name = New Caledonia | common_name = New Caledonia | image_flag = Flag of New Caledonia.svg | alt_flag = Flag of France | image_flag2 = Flag of France.svg | alt_flag2 = FLNKS flag | flag_type = Flags of New Caledonia | image_coat = Coat of arms of New Caledonia.svg | symbol_type = Emblem | national_motto = "Terre de parole, terre de partage"<ref name="monde2">[http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2010/08/18/la-nouvelle-caledonie-se-dote-d-un-hymne-et-d-une-devise_1399996_823448.html La Nouvelle-Calédonie se dote d'un hymne et d'une devise - LeMonde.fr]</ref> | national_anthem = ''[[Soyons unis, devenons frères]]''<ref name="monde2"/> | image_map = New Caledonia in its region (special marker).svg | capital = [[Nouméa]] | largest_city = Nouméa | government_type = [[Dependent territory]] | legislature = [[Congress of New Caledonia|Congress]] | established_event1 = Annexed by France | year_start = 1999 | year_end = 2012 | currency = [[CFP franc]] | cctld = [[.nc]] | calling_code = 687 }}
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Many countries changed their flags over time, so having just one parameter is quite restrictive. Template:Infobox country can handle more than one flag, even though it deals with a present entity. Is there a simple way to alter the code here to get multiple flags? If not, perhaps the coding from Infobox country can just be copied over to replace the Flag/CoA code here. Seems to produce the same result. CMD ( talk) 04:31, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Some arcane bug in template language is making this template malfunction when called in page Dutch East Indies: it makes a line "[[Category:Former colonies|Dutch East Indies, Dutch Empire]]" appear before the infobox. The result seems to depend on the contents of the parameter "empire". Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 11:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed this template didn't have the same sort of linewrap handling for data following dashes (years or event names) as Infobox country, so I've tried to incorporate it in the version of the template here. If its accepted, I'll revist those pages I've seen with this template where manual attempts have been made to handle linewrapping (e.g. "<br/>{{nbsp|3}}") and amend accordingly. 213.246.114.240 ( talk) 19:17, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I've just discovered the "Edit protected" template [...]
To make the edit, the code in this section (everything before the "Hello. I noticed this template..." message) should replace the code the template apart from the final three lines, which should be:
|}<noinclude>
{{documentation}}
</noinclude>
Hope that makes sense. 213.246.114.240 ( talk) 18:22, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
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From looking at a few examples, it seems as though if a country was established or disestablished in a particular century, but a more precise year is unknown, the century is entered into the year_start or year_end field. This adds it to the correct category; however, the lifespan at the top is formatted incorrectly. It appears as, for example, "5th century–6th century", which looks bad and doesn't comply with MOS:DATE. It should be "5th century – 6th century" with a non-breaking space before the en-dash. If you added a new parameter for centuries (in addition to the current date and year ones), it could solve this problem. Rather than having to enter "5th century" into the year parameter, one could just enter "5" into the century parameter. Although, you'd also need some capability of specifying BCE if necessary. I don't know how the template works, but these extra parameters could simplify the automatic categories as well. McLerristarr | Mclay1 07:44, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, I've been trying to sort out the article for the Prince-Bishopric of Liège which ended in 1789, was reestablished in 1791, annexed by the French in 1792, lost and restablished in 1793 and finally annexed again in 1795. Unfortunately this is causing some problems with the template (end event). Could there be an end_date 2 (etc) like there is in the French language one? -- Brigade Piron ( talk) 16:07, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
This CfD recommended that the disestablishment categories for the 970s all be Category:States and territories disestablished in the 970s and not individual years. Could someone implement this? — Train2104 ( talk • contribs) 22:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
All {{ efn}} tags on the same line as "native_name =" will show nothing in their hover boxes. The only workaround is to put a carriage return between the equal sign and affected content — as all text on a following lines loses the parameter's styling. I have not observed this behaviour in other parameters (such as life_span).
I am trying to solve this, but I have little experience with wiki-language used to create templates. Any ideas?
—
Sowlos 09:19, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
There appears to be no "Demonym" parameter on this template. May somebody be as so kind as to add it? Thanks! Illegitimate Barrister ( talk) 12:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Please can someone who understands this template adjust it to merge the below categories before someone who doesn't tries? Thanks in advance. Timrollpickering ( talk) 00:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
year_start=321 BC
, it first looks to place the article in
Category:States and territories established in 321 BC. If that does not exist, it looks for
Category:States and territories established in the 320s BC. And if that doesn't exit, it uses
Category:States and territories established in the 4th century BC. Once this code goes live, you should be able to just delete the cats, and the template will figure where to re-cat the articles. If there are no objections, I'll copy the new code over so we can make it go live.
TDL (
talk) 04:27, 2 May 2013 (UTC)