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Colors of athletic clubs in the basketball infoboxes falls to the WP:COLOR, because give not important informations, the choice of colors is controversial and are a reason for edit wars. Also, basketball players are not only members of clubs but maybe are members of national teams too. For these reasons I suggest their removal from the infobox. -- IM-yb ( talk) 19:13, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Association football, baseball, ice hockey and other sports has not colors of clubs in the players infoboxes. Usage of colors is only for basketball players infoboxes. The reason is not about contrast. Is about WP:COLOR which speaks about colors who gives important informations. What is the important information who gives the colors? Are for identify of the current club? And what about the national teams? The choice of the colors is based in sources or is at the discretion of each user? -- IM-yb ( talk) 21:05, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
In each case, the three colors are too mach (i speak for the border) in the infobox. All your examples (about the other sports) has two colors. Most of the teams have two or one official "home" color (with unstable away colors). -- IM-yb ( talk) 00:51, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
In the Infobox Basketball club of the Olympiacos article [1] someone gives maroon as the color of Olympiacos! We spend many time to find a common acceptable and representative (with good contrast) color in the european clubs, and now we have a third color to manage, because it adopted from that template (Infobox basketball biography). We have and other more important works, except the correction of wrong colors. -- IM-yb ( talk) 11:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
It is not necessary to remove the colors, but at least the third color that does not exist in many teams like this ( [2]). -- IM-yb ( talk) 23:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
A team may have three and four colors but these teams are minimal. In addition to the other problems, there is always the problem of verification. Where is the verifiable colors? Anyone gives their view about colors (see the third color of Real Madrid Baloncesto, Camel!, even the second color, "black", is doubtful). -- IM-yb ( talk) 14:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Dirtlawyer1 I agree that the usage of colors should be based on sources. Bagumba in the examples I quoted were not used sources for colors. Giant where is the clear consensous? The value of color usage can be challenged at any time by any user ( WP:CCC). I want to make it clear that I do not intend to create problems for those wishing to use the colors.I mention my views and my legitimate worry about the subject, which were expressed above also based on other users' edits. -- IM-yb ( talk) 13:43, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
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Nationality is one thing, and international representation another. I think it is only about time we add a "National team" parameter. Examples:
I could go on, you get it. The parameter could either have its own header, or added to Career history.-- Zoupan 09:43, 8 May 2015 (UTC)}}
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Would it be a good idea if the infobox was able to link to WNBA players' stats from basketball reference? Like Sue Bird. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 23:42, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, you could still add bbr_euro, bbr_nbl and bbr_dleague for players that only played in one of those leagues. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 17:40, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
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Would like to add additional information to the personal life section, including spouse and siblings. This would make the biography a bit more comprehensive and allow users to more quickly summarize what is found in the "Personal Life" section of an article. For example: | spouse =
Zurich899 ( talk) 08:15, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
|spouse=
, for example, (see
Template:Infobox_person#Parameters), please make sure you have a
consensus for the change for this template. Does
WikiProject National Basketball Association or
WikiProject Basketball know about this change? Also, keep in mind that an infobox is not suppose to contain every piece of information (see
WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE). If you're certain that your suggested additions have support, and does not go against infobox guidelines, consider coding it up at
Template:Infobox basketball biography/sandbox first, perhaps making testcases for it (
Template:Infobox basketball biography/testcases) to check its output, and re-open here. Hope this is acceptable. —
Andy W. (
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14:40, 23 August 2016 (UTC)Hello everybody, I suggest we should add a "Youth career" parameter, like Template:Infobox football biography has. There are already high school parameters, but for European players "youth career" is needed. For example, if you view Isaiah Hartenstein's page, it seems like he has been playing pro basketball since 2009 (when he was 11). I think there should be clear separation between youth clubs and pro clubs. I'd like to hear what you think. -- H-Hurry ( talk) 14:43, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Can anyone convert this infobox so it could be used as a module. This could be useful for basketball players who also held political posts as well as to those who played in other sports such as association football. Hariboneagle927 ( talk) 12:17, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
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Can information for the years on the natioanal team be added please. Thanks, Sander.v.Ginkel ( Talk) 09:13, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
| headerXX = | dataXX = {{#if:| <table width="100%" style="background:transparent; text-align:left; line-height:1.8em;"> {{#if:{{{nationalteam|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam1|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears1|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam1|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam2|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears2|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam2|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam3|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears3|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam3|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam4|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears4|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam4|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam5|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears5|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam5|}}}</td> </tr>}}</table>}}
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16:28, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
The HOF link format doesn't work anymore because of changes to the URL. Here is the current format:
http://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/tag/{{{HOF_player}}}
This is how it should be now:
http://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/{{{HOF_player}}}
Note that the tag was removed. I would edit this if I could. lukini ( talk | contribs) 17:53, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Can someone change the parameter options of "draft_year_pba"? The first PBA draft was done in 1985. Players who started playing from 1975 to 1984 are directly hired. The red link generated by this template for players that began playing from 1975 to 1984 is a bit misleading. Thanks. - WayKurat ( talk) 02:00, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Why do we have the parameter "draft_year_pba" when we have the parameter "draft_league" that can say "PBA" and ink to the appropriate article? Rikster2 ( talk) 16:08, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
The URL is different. For example ---> [3] Bluesangrel ( talk) 16:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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The purpose of this edit is to provide increased privacy and security for users by having the template use HTTPS when generating links to Basketball-Reference.com pages. The Basketball-Reference.com site appears to support HTTPS; for example,
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/birdla01.html generates a
301 Moved Permanently redirect to
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/birdla01.html. In the template, please change both instances of http://www.basketball-reference.com/
(there are two instances) to https://www.basketball-reference.com/
instead. Thanks. --
Elegie (
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09:07, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to implement a birth name parameter (as birth_name and/or birthname) like is implemented for Template:Infobox person? I was reading the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar article and thought it was strange it didn't have his birth name in the infobox. I've checked around and some of the sportsperson infobox templates have the birth name as a parameter (e.g. some of the motorsports person templates, Template:Infobox sportsperson), but many do not as well. Helixer ( hábleme) 03:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed that we have a coaching parameter here for former NBA players that have become (assistant) head coaches, but nothing at all in regards to how they've performed as a general manager or some other front office role for a team, like assistant general manager, for example. It's not like it isn't a viable possibility for them; both Danny Ainge and Larry Bird are two names that come to mind for former NBA players to take on general manager roles after being head coaches in the NBA. Steve Kerr was formerly a general manager himself before being a head coach for the Golden State Warriors. Even people like James Jones and Artūras Karnišovas are more recent examples of former basketball players having front office roles altogether. Therefore, I request that for former basketball players that may or may not have coached in the NBA before, they have something that showcases the years they've been either a general manager of a team or have held some sort of front office role for a basketball team altogether. - AGreatPhoenixSunsFan ( talk) 00:39, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
There is a discussion about the inclusion of national teams at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball#National teams in infoboxes again and some people are ignoring previous discussions. Please give your opinions there. – Sabbatino ( talk) 07:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi guys, there are some coaches that trains one team and one national team (like Romeo Sacchetti, Sergio Scariolo, Vincent Collet and so on). What should I use for the parameter team? Thanks Towerman86 (talk) 07:18, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add an executive role? Mitch Kupchak's infobox isn't exactly complete without mentioning his long-time executive stint with the Lakers, for example. Howard the Duck ( talk) 20:20, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
I've noticed that the HOF fields don't include the gold background color ( - hex #ffbb00) for this template. Can we include this color for the HOF fields just like Template:Infobox college coach? Thanks. Cubbie15fan ( talk) 15:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
It appears this template outputs conversions of height in metres rather than centimetres; in countries that measure human heights in metric, cm is the norm, and other infobox templates automatically output in cm. Could this be changed? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:56, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
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Per a content dispute over Mehryn Kraker ( diff) and a suggestion at my talk page, I'm requesting that the "home_town" parameter (exists in Template:Infobox person) be added to this template as a reasonable means of settling the content dispute. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 23:50, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
|high_school=
field, which typically also lists its location parenthetically. That generally is more important to see at a glance, and I would guess duplicates 90+% of players' hometowns (as in this case), and the rest would be some neighboring city. Moreover, we'd clutter the infobox in cases where the hometown was the same as the birthplace. Per
MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE: "The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance." (On a side note, it wouldn't solve everything about the dispute.
The article's body still claimed she was born in her hometown without a verifiable source.)—
Bagumba (
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01:15, 24 August 2019 (UTC){{
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Izno (
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01:55, 24 August 2019 (UTC)Hi @ Frietjes:: Can you please edit the documentation so that the total number of teams and years that the person played for be increased from 40 to 50? I added the infobox to Honey Russell, which utilizes years41, team41, years42, and team42, but the infobox's parameters only allow up to 40 teams. I understand that he's a rare exception, but we still need to have his career history accurately fleshed out in the infobox. Thank you! SportsGuy789 ( talk) 01:23, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I agree with SportsGuy that it should be expanded. There are a remarkably small number of basketball figures for whom they will even get close to this number. I’d prefer adjusting the box than having individual editors just determine which teams are important and which ones aren’t. Rikster2 ( talk) 13:29, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I think there should be parameters for the players' spouse, parents, and relatives — almost all biographical infoboxes include that. I'm asking this specifically because of the Kobe Bryant article; I was going to include his father, Joe Bryant, in the infobox, but there wasn't a parameter. — Melofors T C 04:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
What is needed to adapt this template and collect information from wikidata? A lot of information, such images, could be updated more quickly and dynamically. -- Yuanga ( talk) 20:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Should we consider adding death cause to this template? Some basketball players die in ways that are relevant to their notability (ex: Kobe Bryant). Iamreallygoodatcheckers ( talk) 01:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
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| data6 = {{br separated entries|{{{birth_name}}}|{{{birth_date|}}}|{{{birth_place|}}}}} dmartin969 01:04, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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Bagumba (
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01:12, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
There are many notable high school athletic coaches. This infobox would benefit from adding parameters for coaching wins, losses, winning percentages, and championships (state/national). The college coach infobox has many of these items. Thanks! PhillyHarold ( talk) 21:33, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
|coach_end=
is specified. This avoids churn of daily stats updates.—
Bagumba (
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02:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Would we just have one dedicated section for coaching stats only, combining all levels/leagues like at John Calipari? Or should the stats be combined with playing stats and grouped per league, like baseball with Bobby Valentine? Other ideas?— Bagumba ( talk) 11:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I’d be careful allowing too many possible entries.: So should the template allow free-form text, like w/ Calipari, or should it enforce how many win–loss stat lines can be displayed?— Bagumba ( talk) 16:10, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
|teamN=
and |cteamN=
parameters.—
Bagumba (
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16:27, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Mock-up See 4 testcases starting at Template:Infobox_basketball_biography/testcases#Retired_NBA_player_and_coach. Please provide any feedback on display or template parameter names. Feel free to add more test cases.— Bagumba ( talk) 11:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Template updated I've added the coaching parameters, and have updated Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan and Red Auerbach.— Bagumba ( talk) 10:37, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
The guidelines for Template:Infobox person suggest for the birth_place field: " Omit unnecessary or redundant details. For example, it is not necessary to state: New York City, New York, United States when New York City, U.S. conveys essentially the same information more concisely."
As a start, I've changed the infoboxes in the Carmelo Anthony and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar articles to use "New York City" alone without the extra "New York", with boroughs as appropriate. Do you think the infobox person guideline should extend to other basketball articles and probably other sportspeople too? Arbor to SJ ( talk) 22:43, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion regarding the broken NBA.com links at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association#NBA.com_stats_links_broken— Bagumba ( talk) 11:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
This infobox is unusually large, both in horizontal width and text sizing. In the sandbox, I tried removing the "bodystyle" parameter that creates this styling, and judging by the testcases, in most cases there is surprisingly little effect on the vertical height of the infobox. Should this change (or parts of it) be implemented? — Goszei ( talk) 04:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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Please consider changing background of HOF section in from #DCDCDC to #FFBB00 to mirror Template:Infobox college coach. Cubbie15fan ( talk) 16:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
@
Zyxw: What is the reason for introducing the |birth_name=
parameter? Because you current reasoning is nothing more than a
WP:OSE case. You cannot just come and blindly introduce a new parameter without any discussion.
WP:TPECON quite clearly says that you ought to discuss the changes before introducing them. –
Sabbatino (
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20:44, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Convention for this infobox in particular is to state both place of birth and nationality, even if redundant. This is directly contrary to WP:INFONAT. For example, if a player is born in the U.S., it is unnecessary to say "American" as well. It makes sense in some cases, like Kyrie Irving, to list both when the two do not correlate, but in most cases it is duplicative, which is why WP:INFONAT exists. I don't see why local consensus should overrule that policy. AllegedlyHuman ( talk) 20:56, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Should be there a separate section dedicated to 3x3 (esp. 3x3 teams played). This could be useful for cases of players who played both the traditional 5x5 and the 3x3. Hariboneagle927 ( talk) 06:21, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
It appears to be convention to use an arrow symbol (like →) in the |team#=
parameters of this template for NBA players who might have spent part of a season in the
NBA G League. You can see an example of what I'm referring to in the infoboxes of
Malcolm Miller (basketball) and
Ryan Arcidiacono, but the same thing is probably found in many more articles as well. The meaning of such a symbol isn't really intuitive (I thought was stray syntax) and probably the casual reader won't understand its intended meaning unless they decided to go digging through this template's documentation page. Is this a convention used outside of Wikipedia by NBA websites or NBA publications? Perhaps there's a better way to do such a thing using parenthesis or an
efn. Maybe even adding an explanation to what the symbol means would work as well. --
Marchjuly (
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03:43, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
(
Two-way contract: G League Team name)
in parenthesis after the NBA team name in the existing team parameters, and maybe there's even a way to set this up so that it's automatic whenever the the particular parameter is populated. --
Marchjuly (
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11:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
(Two-way contract: G League Team name): Previous consensus at Template_talk:Infobox_basketball_biography/Archive_2#How_to_list_a_D-League_assignment in 2011 was not to include a parenthetical e.g. "(assigned)". However, I did comment even back then: "explanation for arrow a must"; it just ended up being one of those template cosmetic changes that nobody took up.— Bagumba ( talk) 12:18, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I was asked to comment here for a technical solution, but I thought I'd give a few comments as well. First, this seems to be pretty standard across most sports; for example rugby players use the arrow with and without the (loan) afterward. I did come across {{ loan}}, which was deleted twice in 2016, but could potentially be revived as {{ tooltip|→|on loan}}, which shows as →. Another option, which might make it more obvious that it's a player going from one team temporarily to another, would be to use ↳ instead of → (which for those of you without browser support, is ); the downside here is that it's not an easily-typed character (I had to copy/paste from Arrow_(symbol)#Arrows_in_Unicode) though I suppose that could be the content of {{ loan}}. That being said I would agree that this could use some sort of resolution (at the very least, so we get standardisation between related articles, if not all sports that do this). Would it be worth a meta discussion at WP:VPR or WT:SPORTS to hash it out? (please ping on reply) Primefac ( talk) 14:53, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I appreciate all of the comments here. I wasn't looking to create lots unnecessary work for anyone. I came across the arrow why looking at something else in Malcolm Miller (basketball) and just didn't know what it meant. I don't think its meaning is something that someone looking for general information about players like Miller would immediately understand. Those involved in editing such articles probably get it right away, but not so sure about others. I also wasn't aware of the different possible meanings of the arrow depending upon the type of sport or type of league. I don't know much about the technical side of templates, which is why I asked Primefac to take a look. I actually thought about the bent arrow symbol (↳) myself after reading some of the initial posts, but I've got no idea if that's technically possible; moreover, even though it's a little bit easier to understand than a straight error since it seems to imply some connection to the entry immeadiately above, it's still a bit vague. If it's possible to add a "teamnote" parameter that works like the one in the NFL template mentioned above, then that might be a good solution. Finally, I'm not suggesting that the infobox should replace content about this type of thing in the body of an article; however, I do think lots of readers probably will look first and perhaps only at the infobox as opposed to reading the entire article; so, perhaps it would be a good idea to make the infobox as clear as possible. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 22:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
<ref name="RefName"/>
) attached to parameter values, it might be worth to enhance it to also deal with certain types of <sup>
and <span>
as they are created by {{
rp}} and {{
r}}.|height_footnote=
and |weight_footnote=
which avoid the problem.—
Bagumba (
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09:43, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
So this template has the sections that show an individual's playing and coaching years in their Career Histories, but why not executive years? Former players and coaches such as Larry Bird, Danny Ainge, Pat Riley and Jerry West continued their careers beyond their playing and/or coaching years and had influence in the league as executives, and the aforementioned list their accolades they received as executives. So it feels appropriate to update this so that the career years can include executive history — Flowerkiller1692 ( talk) 18:20, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Any possible way to add (| conference = ) below the (| league = ) so college coaches that are using this infobox don't have it read like this LEAGUE - ACC and could read instead CONFERENCE - ACC? Brian ( talk) 01:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
|conference=
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. —
Bagumba (
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09:50, 6 May 2022 (UTC)I couldn't find it by searching the archives if this topic has been discussed, but could the template be modified to add in a space where a player's signature can be added? This is a feature in the wiki tennis biography templates with Roger Federer as an example. I'd like to add this file to Michael Jordan's page.
350z33 ( talk) 02:34, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
See above. -- SdHb ( talk) 13:20, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Is there any way to add alt text with this infobox? Thank you. Therapyisgood ( talk) 14:25, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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Colors of athletic clubs in the basketball infoboxes falls to the WP:COLOR, because give not important informations, the choice of colors is controversial and are a reason for edit wars. Also, basketball players are not only members of clubs but maybe are members of national teams too. For these reasons I suggest their removal from the infobox. -- IM-yb ( talk) 19:13, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Association football, baseball, ice hockey and other sports has not colors of clubs in the players infoboxes. Usage of colors is only for basketball players infoboxes. The reason is not about contrast. Is about WP:COLOR which speaks about colors who gives important informations. What is the important information who gives the colors? Are for identify of the current club? And what about the national teams? The choice of the colors is based in sources or is at the discretion of each user? -- IM-yb ( talk) 21:05, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
In each case, the three colors are too mach (i speak for the border) in the infobox. All your examples (about the other sports) has two colors. Most of the teams have two or one official "home" color (with unstable away colors). -- IM-yb ( talk) 00:51, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
In the Infobox Basketball club of the Olympiacos article [1] someone gives maroon as the color of Olympiacos! We spend many time to find a common acceptable and representative (with good contrast) color in the european clubs, and now we have a third color to manage, because it adopted from that template (Infobox basketball biography). We have and other more important works, except the correction of wrong colors. -- IM-yb ( talk) 11:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
It is not necessary to remove the colors, but at least the third color that does not exist in many teams like this ( [2]). -- IM-yb ( talk) 23:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
A team may have three and four colors but these teams are minimal. In addition to the other problems, there is always the problem of verification. Where is the verifiable colors? Anyone gives their view about colors (see the third color of Real Madrid Baloncesto, Camel!, even the second color, "black", is doubtful). -- IM-yb ( talk) 14:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Dirtlawyer1 I agree that the usage of colors should be based on sources. Bagumba in the examples I quoted were not used sources for colors. Giant where is the clear consensous? The value of color usage can be challenged at any time by any user ( WP:CCC). I want to make it clear that I do not intend to create problems for those wishing to use the colors.I mention my views and my legitimate worry about the subject, which were expressed above also based on other users' edits. -- IM-yb ( talk) 13:43, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
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Nationality is one thing, and international representation another. I think it is only about time we add a "National team" parameter. Examples:
I could go on, you get it. The parameter could either have its own header, or added to Career history.-- Zoupan 09:43, 8 May 2015 (UTC)}}
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12:38, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea if the infobox was able to link to WNBA players' stats from basketball reference? Like Sue Bird. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 23:42, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, you could still add bbr_euro, bbr_nbl and bbr_dleague for players that only played in one of those leagues. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 17:40, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
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Would like to add additional information to the personal life section, including spouse and siblings. This would make the biography a bit more comprehensive and allow users to more quickly summarize what is found in the "Personal Life" section of an article. For example: | spouse =
Zurich899 ( talk) 08:15, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
|spouse=
, for example, (see
Template:Infobox_person#Parameters), please make sure you have a
consensus for the change for this template. Does
WikiProject National Basketball Association or
WikiProject Basketball know about this change? Also, keep in mind that an infobox is not suppose to contain every piece of information (see
WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE). If you're certain that your suggested additions have support, and does not go against infobox guidelines, consider coding it up at
Template:Infobox basketball biography/sandbox first, perhaps making testcases for it (
Template:Infobox basketball biography/testcases) to check its output, and re-open here. Hope this is acceptable. —
Andy W. (
talk ·
ctb)
14:40, 23 August 2016 (UTC)Hello everybody, I suggest we should add a "Youth career" parameter, like Template:Infobox football biography has. There are already high school parameters, but for European players "youth career" is needed. For example, if you view Isaiah Hartenstein's page, it seems like he has been playing pro basketball since 2009 (when he was 11). I think there should be clear separation between youth clubs and pro clubs. I'd like to hear what you think. -- H-Hurry ( talk) 14:43, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Can anyone convert this infobox so it could be used as a module. This could be useful for basketball players who also held political posts as well as to those who played in other sports such as association football. Hariboneagle927 ( talk) 12:17, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
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Can information for the years on the natioanal team be added please. Thanks, Sander.v.Ginkel ( Talk) 09:13, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
| headerXX = | dataXX = {{#if:| <table width="100%" style="background:transparent; text-align:left; line-height:1.8em;"> {{#if:{{{nationalteam|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam1|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears1|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam1|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam2|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears2|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam2|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam3|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears3|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam3|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam4|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears4|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam4|}}}</td> </tr>}}{{#if:{{{nationalteam5|}}}|<tr><td>{{{nationalyears5|}}}</td><td>{{{nationalteam5|}}}</td> </tr>}}</table>}}
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The HOF link format doesn't work anymore because of changes to the URL. Here is the current format:
http://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/tag/{{{HOF_player}}}
This is how it should be now:
http://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/{{{HOF_player}}}
Note that the tag was removed. I would edit this if I could. lukini ( talk | contribs) 17:53, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Can someone change the parameter options of "draft_year_pba"? The first PBA draft was done in 1985. Players who started playing from 1975 to 1984 are directly hired. The red link generated by this template for players that began playing from 1975 to 1984 is a bit misleading. Thanks. - WayKurat ( talk) 02:00, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Why do we have the parameter "draft_year_pba" when we have the parameter "draft_league" that can say "PBA" and ink to the appropriate article? Rikster2 ( talk) 16:08, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
The URL is different. For example ---> [3] Bluesangrel ( talk) 16:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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The purpose of this edit is to provide increased privacy and security for users by having the template use HTTPS when generating links to Basketball-Reference.com pages. The Basketball-Reference.com site appears to support HTTPS; for example,
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/birdla01.html generates a
301 Moved Permanently redirect to
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/birdla01.html. In the template, please change both instances of http://www.basketball-reference.com/
(there are two instances) to https://www.basketball-reference.com/
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Elegie (
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Would it be appropriate to implement a birth name parameter (as birth_name and/or birthname) like is implemented for Template:Infobox person? I was reading the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar article and thought it was strange it didn't have his birth name in the infobox. I've checked around and some of the sportsperson infobox templates have the birth name as a parameter (e.g. some of the motorsports person templates, Template:Infobox sportsperson), but many do not as well. Helixer ( hábleme) 03:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed that we have a coaching parameter here for former NBA players that have become (assistant) head coaches, but nothing at all in regards to how they've performed as a general manager or some other front office role for a team, like assistant general manager, for example. It's not like it isn't a viable possibility for them; both Danny Ainge and Larry Bird are two names that come to mind for former NBA players to take on general manager roles after being head coaches in the NBA. Steve Kerr was formerly a general manager himself before being a head coach for the Golden State Warriors. Even people like James Jones and Artūras Karnišovas are more recent examples of former basketball players having front office roles altogether. Therefore, I request that for former basketball players that may or may not have coached in the NBA before, they have something that showcases the years they've been either a general manager of a team or have held some sort of front office role for a basketball team altogether. - AGreatPhoenixSunsFan ( talk) 00:39, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
There is a discussion about the inclusion of national teams at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball#National teams in infoboxes again and some people are ignoring previous discussions. Please give your opinions there. – Sabbatino ( talk) 07:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi guys, there are some coaches that trains one team and one national team (like Romeo Sacchetti, Sergio Scariolo, Vincent Collet and so on). What should I use for the parameter team? Thanks Towerman86 (talk) 07:18, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add an executive role? Mitch Kupchak's infobox isn't exactly complete without mentioning his long-time executive stint with the Lakers, for example. Howard the Duck ( talk) 20:20, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
I've noticed that the HOF fields don't include the gold background color ( - hex #ffbb00) for this template. Can we include this color for the HOF fields just like Template:Infobox college coach? Thanks. Cubbie15fan ( talk) 15:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
It appears this template outputs conversions of height in metres rather than centimetres; in countries that measure human heights in metric, cm is the norm, and other infobox templates automatically output in cm. Could this be changed? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:56, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
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Per a content dispute over Mehryn Kraker ( diff) and a suggestion at my talk page, I'm requesting that the "home_town" parameter (exists in Template:Infobox person) be added to this template as a reasonable means of settling the content dispute. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 23:50, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
|high_school=
field, which typically also lists its location parenthetically. That generally is more important to see at a glance, and I would guess duplicates 90+% of players' hometowns (as in this case), and the rest would be some neighboring city. Moreover, we'd clutter the infobox in cases where the hometown was the same as the birthplace. Per
MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE: "The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance." (On a side note, it wouldn't solve everything about the dispute.
The article's body still claimed she was born in her hometown without a verifiable source.)—
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01:55, 24 August 2019 (UTC)Hi @ Frietjes:: Can you please edit the documentation so that the total number of teams and years that the person played for be increased from 40 to 50? I added the infobox to Honey Russell, which utilizes years41, team41, years42, and team42, but the infobox's parameters only allow up to 40 teams. I understand that he's a rare exception, but we still need to have his career history accurately fleshed out in the infobox. Thank you! SportsGuy789 ( talk) 01:23, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I agree with SportsGuy that it should be expanded. There are a remarkably small number of basketball figures for whom they will even get close to this number. I’d prefer adjusting the box than having individual editors just determine which teams are important and which ones aren’t. Rikster2 ( talk) 13:29, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I think there should be parameters for the players' spouse, parents, and relatives — almost all biographical infoboxes include that. I'm asking this specifically because of the Kobe Bryant article; I was going to include his father, Joe Bryant, in the infobox, but there wasn't a parameter. — Melofors T C 04:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
What is needed to adapt this template and collect information from wikidata? A lot of information, such images, could be updated more quickly and dynamically. -- Yuanga ( talk) 20:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Should we consider adding death cause to this template? Some basketball players die in ways that are relevant to their notability (ex: Kobe Bryant). Iamreallygoodatcheckers ( talk) 01:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
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Bagumba (
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There are many notable high school athletic coaches. This infobox would benefit from adding parameters for coaching wins, losses, winning percentages, and championships (state/national). The college coach infobox has many of these items. Thanks! PhillyHarold ( talk) 21:33, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
|coach_end=
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Bagumba (
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Would we just have one dedicated section for coaching stats only, combining all levels/leagues like at John Calipari? Or should the stats be combined with playing stats and grouped per league, like baseball with Bobby Valentine? Other ideas?— Bagumba ( talk) 11:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I’d be careful allowing too many possible entries.: So should the template allow free-form text, like w/ Calipari, or should it enforce how many win–loss stat lines can be displayed?— Bagumba ( talk) 16:10, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
|teamN=
and |cteamN=
parameters.—
Bagumba (
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16:27, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Mock-up See 4 testcases starting at Template:Infobox_basketball_biography/testcases#Retired_NBA_player_and_coach. Please provide any feedback on display or template parameter names. Feel free to add more test cases.— Bagumba ( talk) 11:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Template updated I've added the coaching parameters, and have updated Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan and Red Auerbach.— Bagumba ( talk) 10:37, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
The guidelines for Template:Infobox person suggest for the birth_place field: " Omit unnecessary or redundant details. For example, it is not necessary to state: New York City, New York, United States when New York City, U.S. conveys essentially the same information more concisely."
As a start, I've changed the infoboxes in the Carmelo Anthony and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar articles to use "New York City" alone without the extra "New York", with boroughs as appropriate. Do you think the infobox person guideline should extend to other basketball articles and probably other sportspeople too? Arbor to SJ ( talk) 22:43, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion regarding the broken NBA.com links at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association#NBA.com_stats_links_broken— Bagumba ( talk) 11:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
This infobox is unusually large, both in horizontal width and text sizing. In the sandbox, I tried removing the "bodystyle" parameter that creates this styling, and judging by the testcases, in most cases there is surprisingly little effect on the vertical height of the infobox. Should this change (or parts of it) be implemented? — Goszei ( talk) 04:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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Please consider changing background of HOF section in from #DCDCDC to #FFBB00 to mirror Template:Infobox college coach. Cubbie15fan ( talk) 16:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
@
Zyxw: What is the reason for introducing the |birth_name=
parameter? Because you current reasoning is nothing more than a
WP:OSE case. You cannot just come and blindly introduce a new parameter without any discussion.
WP:TPECON quite clearly says that you ought to discuss the changes before introducing them. –
Sabbatino (
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20:44, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Convention for this infobox in particular is to state both place of birth and nationality, even if redundant. This is directly contrary to WP:INFONAT. For example, if a player is born in the U.S., it is unnecessary to say "American" as well. It makes sense in some cases, like Kyrie Irving, to list both when the two do not correlate, but in most cases it is duplicative, which is why WP:INFONAT exists. I don't see why local consensus should overrule that policy. AllegedlyHuman ( talk) 20:56, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Should be there a separate section dedicated to 3x3 (esp. 3x3 teams played). This could be useful for cases of players who played both the traditional 5x5 and the 3x3. Hariboneagle927 ( talk) 06:21, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
It appears to be convention to use an arrow symbol (like →) in the |team#=
parameters of this template for NBA players who might have spent part of a season in the
NBA G League. You can see an example of what I'm referring to in the infoboxes of
Malcolm Miller (basketball) and
Ryan Arcidiacono, but the same thing is probably found in many more articles as well. The meaning of such a symbol isn't really intuitive (I thought was stray syntax) and probably the casual reader won't understand its intended meaning unless they decided to go digging through this template's documentation page. Is this a convention used outside of Wikipedia by NBA websites or NBA publications? Perhaps there's a better way to do such a thing using parenthesis or an
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Marchjuly (
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03:43, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
(
Two-way contract: G League Team name)
in parenthesis after the NBA team name in the existing team parameters, and maybe there's even a way to set this up so that it's automatic whenever the the particular parameter is populated. --
Marchjuly (
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11:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
(Two-way contract: G League Team name): Previous consensus at Template_talk:Infobox_basketball_biography/Archive_2#How_to_list_a_D-League_assignment in 2011 was not to include a parenthetical e.g. "(assigned)". However, I did comment even back then: "explanation for arrow a must"; it just ended up being one of those template cosmetic changes that nobody took up.— Bagumba ( talk) 12:18, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I was asked to comment here for a technical solution, but I thought I'd give a few comments as well. First, this seems to be pretty standard across most sports; for example rugby players use the arrow with and without the (loan) afterward. I did come across {{ loan}}, which was deleted twice in 2016, but could potentially be revived as {{ tooltip|→|on loan}}, which shows as →. Another option, which might make it more obvious that it's a player going from one team temporarily to another, would be to use ↳ instead of → (which for those of you without browser support, is ); the downside here is that it's not an easily-typed character (I had to copy/paste from Arrow_(symbol)#Arrows_in_Unicode) though I suppose that could be the content of {{ loan}}. That being said I would agree that this could use some sort of resolution (at the very least, so we get standardisation between related articles, if not all sports that do this). Would it be worth a meta discussion at WP:VPR or WT:SPORTS to hash it out? (please ping on reply) Primefac ( talk) 14:53, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I appreciate all of the comments here. I wasn't looking to create lots unnecessary work for anyone. I came across the arrow why looking at something else in Malcolm Miller (basketball) and just didn't know what it meant. I don't think its meaning is something that someone looking for general information about players like Miller would immediately understand. Those involved in editing such articles probably get it right away, but not so sure about others. I also wasn't aware of the different possible meanings of the arrow depending upon the type of sport or type of league. I don't know much about the technical side of templates, which is why I asked Primefac to take a look. I actually thought about the bent arrow symbol (↳) myself after reading some of the initial posts, but I've got no idea if that's technically possible; moreover, even though it's a little bit easier to understand than a straight error since it seems to imply some connection to the entry immeadiately above, it's still a bit vague. If it's possible to add a "teamnote" parameter that works like the one in the NFL template mentioned above, then that might be a good solution. Finally, I'm not suggesting that the infobox should replace content about this type of thing in the body of an article; however, I do think lots of readers probably will look first and perhaps only at the infobox as opposed to reading the entire article; so, perhaps it would be a good idea to make the infobox as clear as possible. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 22:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
<ref name="RefName"/>
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and <span>
as they are created by {{
rp}} and {{
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Bagumba (
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So this template has the sections that show an individual's playing and coaching years in their Career Histories, but why not executive years? Former players and coaches such as Larry Bird, Danny Ainge, Pat Riley and Jerry West continued their careers beyond their playing and/or coaching years and had influence in the league as executives, and the aforementioned list their accolades they received as executives. So it feels appropriate to update this so that the career years can include executive history — Flowerkiller1692 ( talk) 18:20, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Any possible way to add (| conference = ) below the (| league = ) so college coaches that are using this infobox don't have it read like this LEAGUE - ACC and could read instead CONFERENCE - ACC? Brian ( talk) 01:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
|conference=
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09:50, 6 May 2022 (UTC)I couldn't find it by searching the archives if this topic has been discussed, but could the template be modified to add in a space where a player's signature can be added? This is a feature in the wiki tennis biography templates with Roger Federer as an example. I'd like to add this file to Michael Jordan's page.
350z33 ( talk) 02:34, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
See above. -- SdHb ( talk) 13:20, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Is there any way to add alt text with this infobox? Thank you. Therapyisgood ( talk) 14:25, 29 June 2022 (UTC)