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This template in intended to create an infobox suitable for all NBA players. It is similar in style to Template:Infobox University2 and Template:Infobox Company on purpose. I believe that previous infoboxes were either too cluttered with too much information or were not aesthetically pleasing. I also believe that WP will benefit from having minimal structural and stylistic uniformity across articles of the same subject and across all articles in general. -- gurulegend 02:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox_NBA_Player
Downwards, please stop reverting the template back to old style height and weight. We're trying to use template:height and template:weight to bring nice automated unit conversion to the infobox.
Hello. Currently, when the "Former teams" parameter is set, a label of "Teams" appears on the displayed Infobox, instead of "Former teams." It seems that this should be changed so that "Former teams" is displayed in the Infobox. I wanted to discuss here, first, though, to see if others objected, find out what would break if this was changed, etc. Lbbzman 23:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
This conversation is from my talk page. I've added it here because I think it is pertinent. -- gurulegend 01:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I see you've added the unit calculators to the template. I've given it a bit of an overhaul, including converting to m:ParserFunctions, which have obsoleted both {{ qif}} and HiddenStructure. Unfortunately, attempting to mix wikitable code and parser functions gets rather confusing due to unintended interpretation of the pipe character "|" so I converted it to straight html, and it should work exactly the same as before, with one non-trivial change to the image syntax. This is partly to prevent certain different articles from having drastically different image sizes. The image on the LeBron article was previously 364 pixels tall, but I changed it so that the sizing of all the images is controlled within the template itself. If necessary though, it would still be possible to create a parameter for overriding the default size specification, by changing:
...|200x250px|...]]
to...|{{{image_size|200x250px}}}|...]]
But I don't see any immediate need to add that feature. Let me know if you disagree. By the way, in case you didn't know, specifying two dimensions (instead of just the width) for an image's size will force it to scale down to fit within an imaginary box. This is helpful to prevent disproportionately tall infobox images from dominating the entire right side of the screen. — Jun. 5, '06 [09:56] <
freak|
talk>
This conversation is from my talk page. I've added it here because I think it is pertinent. -- gurulegend 01:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Another question regarding the infobox, since the nationality/flag template has been added, is how best to handle cases like
Shawn Bradley, who has
dual citizenship in both
Germany and the
United States, perhaps an optional nationality_2
parameter and show two flags on separate rows? Which do you think looks better:
Nationality |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
or... | |
Nationality |
![]() ![]() |
— Jun. 5, '06 [22:14] <
freak|
talk>
//en.wikipedia.org/?title=Shawn_Bradley&oldid=57108603 Not bad, then? — Jun. 6, '06 [02:32] <
freak|
talk>
To Template:Infobox PBA player? (PBA= Philippine Basketball Association)
Nice work, btw. -- Howard t he Du c k 07:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Can I use this for Croatian Wikipedia? -- Deveen 21:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
(Almost) all foreign players were already professional before arriving to the NBA, what is the Pro career intended for? NBA or overall? I've seen it used mostly for NBA carerr, but if so, the caption should be changed to reflect that. See for instance Carlos Delfino Mariano( t/ c) 07:30, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Several other pro sports infoboxes have a spot for records. Thoughts? - Raetzsch 14:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I've changed the template to use the new template:flagcountry2. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Flag Template/January 2007 rework. -- Ligulem 13:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
The reason why I reverted is because the recent change to this infobox has meant that the flagicon for "Nationality" was "made redundant". This is turn has made the redirections for country codes such as "LTU" ( Lithuania) and "CAN" ( Canada) stay as is. And when one clicks on LTU, one does not get Lithuania, but instead a disambiguation page. I've also seen some people now change nationality from, example "France" to "French", which is just great, but it creates inconsistencies. If this is allowed, does that mean we have to change all American NBA players' nationalities from "USA" or "United States" to "American"? This is a gross waste of time and resources. I have restored it back to what it was, prior to the 13th June (or whenever). If someone's got a better idea, put it forth - thanks. -- Downwards 04:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
This is an interwiki to the Macedonian Wikipedia's corresponding article: mk:Шаблон:Информациона кутија за НБА играч
I had to unlink the "Nationality" field, because the common terms for most nationalities do not link directly to articles about that nationality, but rather to disambiguation pages -- see American, German, etc. I also updated the /doc example to show the correct method of linking an individual's nationality. -- Russ (talk) 21:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need this field in the infobox? And at the top of the box at that? I remember nicknames were removed from {{ Infobox Football biography}} because there was a tendency for overkill, and nicknames, unlike other infobox parameters like height and place of birth, are fluid and the notability can be questionable. For example, Vince Carter has seven listed - "Air Canada" is no longer relevant, "Half Man, Half Season" is an insult based on a nickname, he hasn't been called "Vinsanity" in years, and "VC" are his initials and I'm not sure if they really qualify as a nickname. If a nickname is truly notable, i.e. "Shaq" then it can be mentioned in the text. Otherwise, something as subjective and arguable as nickname shouldn't be in the article, let alone in the infobox. -- Mosmof ( talk) 15:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, until "Infobox CBA Player" is developed, I will try to use this template for Chinese Basketball Association players. Thanks. -- Mr Accountable ( talk) 19:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
The boldface on team name, I think, is unnecessary. The team name is basically on the first line of the players' articles. If one would brother to look at it for a second, one can see the team name clearly. Chris! c t 18:20, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I added "official profile" to the infobox, but it should only be shown if a player is in the NBA, as links to people who are not in the NBA do not exist. Could somebody please help and edit it so that "official profile" is shown only if the infobox includes "league = NBA (or National Basketball Association"? Thank you in advance. ● 8 ~ Hype @ 13:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Because there is currently an edit war over the data in this infobox at LeBron James, I need to know: Is there a way that source info (i.e. ref tags) for such items as height and weight can be incorporated into this template? -- JeffBillman ( talk) 17:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
How do you override the age for players who have died? Thanks, Group29 ( talk) 14:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm confused as some users add the teams which the player has never played for that specific team to former teams section (i.e. in Steve Francis article Portland Trail Blazers is included but you know he was released after trade from New York Knicks). Some players are traded to some teams, and released without playing a game for them. Should we include this teams to former teams section? Is there any decision taken in advance? I suppose we should put the teams only he played for. Tamburello ( talk) 21:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm all for that. We can make it a project-wide criteria and put it under a certain rule such as: "Under former teams section, add the teams for which the player had appeared in at least one (1) official game" Tamburello ( talk) 08:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I tried to upgrade the template a bit (to make it similar to the MLB and NFL), I'm usually good at these things, but for some reason there is a template loop now and I don't know why. What should I do? -- Dodgerblue777 01:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
See here. Enigma msg 04:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the player's current team is not linked anywhere in the infobox? Zagalejo ^^^ 19:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
[[[[Team]]]]
don't occur. I'm done with that now, hopefully. —
LOL
T/
C
21:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a fan of this type of infobox. I think something like the NBA retired player would look at like better. Example : Charles Barkley. Just my .02 Corpx ( talk) 00:11, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I've done some significant code cleanup of the template which amongst other things helps with its accessibility; this helps bring the template more in line with other {{ infobox}}es, and makes the code much easier to read. The code is in the sandbox; I'll sync it shortly unless there's some constructive reason not to. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 08:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
{{Infobox NFLactive}}
should also use standard presentation.
Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing);
Andy's talk;
Andy's edits
11:26, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Greetings everyone! I know I am entering this discussion a little late in the game, but feel I should put my two cents in as I spend a considerable amount of time editing NBA player's articles, including their infoboxes. I've looked at both the NBA Player and NBAretired templates and here are my thoughts on both:
everything else looks good, can't wait for this to take into affect (which will mean more editing for me to do!) Djrun ( talk) 13:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I really do not understand what this guy Thumperward is talking about, but this change did not need to happen. LOL had the infobox perfect and Thumperward, who is clearly not a sports editor came in here and messed it all up. I don't know if anyone else has this problem but the font is much smaller then that of the MLB and NFL infoboxes, which this infobox was originally modeled after. Overall I am not a fan of this change and I think it might be best if we revert to LOL's original design. Beast from da East ( talk) 20:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is related to the recent edits to the template, but I've noticed that none of the NBA.com profile links are working. Any ideas? Zagalejo ^^^ 18:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
On
Dwyane Wade, the profile
param was not supplied, so the external link showed up as "wade Dwyane Wade" and linked to
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwyane, which isn't
his profile. I
set the profile param manually and the problem went away. I think that's related to the above. --
an
odd
name
19:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
I have no problems with the code change but I still cannot stand the font size. May I suggest a change of 88 to 90 so we can finally end this saga? Beast from da East ( talk) 01:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
From what I can tell, based on experimentation, an infobox must have a career end date in order to display the players' nba.com historical playerfile. However, what can be done in a case like Steve Francis, who hasn't clearly retired from basketball, but only has a historical playerfile at NBA.com? I don't think it's correct to insert a career end date just to get the link at the bottom of the infobox to work. Zagalejo ^^^ 21:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
I am trying to make the infobox shows "No notable achievements" if nothing is passed into the highlights parameter. It was implemented but then reverted. I don't understand why such a non-controversial change needs to be discussed. Anyway, I am starting a discussion right now.— Chris! c/ t 05:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
|highlights=
to state this. I just would like the option of removing this section if the box is dwarfing the article.
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk)
20:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I knew this was going to happen, but I did not expect one of my best friends on this site in Plastikspork to do this to me. Anyways, like I've mentioned countless times before, the NBA infobox's cousins, the MLB and NFL infoboxs, both use size 90 font, it looks better, its easier to see and most importantly, everybody seems to love it. Now the NBA infobox uses the exact same format, with one exception, the font size is 88 rather then 90. When LOL and me came together to create this NBA infobox, we originally used 90, but that all changed when Chris Cunningham AKA Thumperward, who is not a member of the NBA WikiProject and has never contributed to any NBA related articles stumbled onto our glorious creation and needlessly changed the infobox. While I did not agree with his changes to the infobox, I do respect the fact that he is indeed a member of this Wikipedia community and has every right to contribute to any article he so choses. But while he may have meant well, he started something that I simply do not and will not agree with. If we can somehow come to agreement on a font size change, I can finally start my mission and make sure each and every NBA player, past and present, has this infobox in their rescpective articles. I'd also like to include more people to share their views on this matter this time then the usual four to five people. Any opinions would be greatly apprecieted. Beast from da East ( talk) 20:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
This template in intended to create an infobox suitable for all NBA players. It is similar in style to Template:Infobox University2 and Template:Infobox Company on purpose. I believe that previous infoboxes were either too cluttered with too much information or were not aesthetically pleasing. I also believe that WP will benefit from having minimal structural and stylistic uniformity across articles of the same subject and across all articles in general. -- gurulegend 02:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox_NBA_Player
Downwards, please stop reverting the template back to old style height and weight. We're trying to use template:height and template:weight to bring nice automated unit conversion to the infobox.
Hello. Currently, when the "Former teams" parameter is set, a label of "Teams" appears on the displayed Infobox, instead of "Former teams." It seems that this should be changed so that "Former teams" is displayed in the Infobox. I wanted to discuss here, first, though, to see if others objected, find out what would break if this was changed, etc. Lbbzman 23:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
This conversation is from my talk page. I've added it here because I think it is pertinent. -- gurulegend 01:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I see you've added the unit calculators to the template. I've given it a bit of an overhaul, including converting to m:ParserFunctions, which have obsoleted both {{ qif}} and HiddenStructure. Unfortunately, attempting to mix wikitable code and parser functions gets rather confusing due to unintended interpretation of the pipe character "|" so I converted it to straight html, and it should work exactly the same as before, with one non-trivial change to the image syntax. This is partly to prevent certain different articles from having drastically different image sizes. The image on the LeBron article was previously 364 pixels tall, but I changed it so that the sizing of all the images is controlled within the template itself. If necessary though, it would still be possible to create a parameter for overriding the default size specification, by changing:
...|200x250px|...]]
to...|{{{image_size|200x250px}}}|...]]
But I don't see any immediate need to add that feature. Let me know if you disagree. By the way, in case you didn't know, specifying two dimensions (instead of just the width) for an image's size will force it to scale down to fit within an imaginary box. This is helpful to prevent disproportionately tall infobox images from dominating the entire right side of the screen. — Jun. 5, '06 [09:56] <
freak|
talk>
This conversation is from my talk page. I've added it here because I think it is pertinent. -- gurulegend 01:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Another question regarding the infobox, since the nationality/flag template has been added, is how best to handle cases like
Shawn Bradley, who has
dual citizenship in both
Germany and the
United States, perhaps an optional nationality_2
parameter and show two flags on separate rows? Which do you think looks better:
Nationality |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
or... | |
Nationality |
![]() ![]() |
— Jun. 5, '06 [22:14] <
freak|
talk>
//en.wikipedia.org/?title=Shawn_Bradley&oldid=57108603 Not bad, then? — Jun. 6, '06 [02:32] <
freak|
talk>
To Template:Infobox PBA player? (PBA= Philippine Basketball Association)
Nice work, btw. -- Howard t he Du c k 07:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Can I use this for Croatian Wikipedia? -- Deveen 21:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
(Almost) all foreign players were already professional before arriving to the NBA, what is the Pro career intended for? NBA or overall? I've seen it used mostly for NBA carerr, but if so, the caption should be changed to reflect that. See for instance Carlos Delfino Mariano( t/ c) 07:30, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Several other pro sports infoboxes have a spot for records. Thoughts? - Raetzsch 14:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I've changed the template to use the new template:flagcountry2. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Flag Template/January 2007 rework. -- Ligulem 13:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
The reason why I reverted is because the recent change to this infobox has meant that the flagicon for "Nationality" was "made redundant". This is turn has made the redirections for country codes such as "LTU" ( Lithuania) and "CAN" ( Canada) stay as is. And when one clicks on LTU, one does not get Lithuania, but instead a disambiguation page. I've also seen some people now change nationality from, example "France" to "French", which is just great, but it creates inconsistencies. If this is allowed, does that mean we have to change all American NBA players' nationalities from "USA" or "United States" to "American"? This is a gross waste of time and resources. I have restored it back to what it was, prior to the 13th June (or whenever). If someone's got a better idea, put it forth - thanks. -- Downwards 04:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
This is an interwiki to the Macedonian Wikipedia's corresponding article: mk:Шаблон:Информациона кутија за НБА играч
I had to unlink the "Nationality" field, because the common terms for most nationalities do not link directly to articles about that nationality, but rather to disambiguation pages -- see American, German, etc. I also updated the /doc example to show the correct method of linking an individual's nationality. -- Russ (talk) 21:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need this field in the infobox? And at the top of the box at that? I remember nicknames were removed from {{ Infobox Football biography}} because there was a tendency for overkill, and nicknames, unlike other infobox parameters like height and place of birth, are fluid and the notability can be questionable. For example, Vince Carter has seven listed - "Air Canada" is no longer relevant, "Half Man, Half Season" is an insult based on a nickname, he hasn't been called "Vinsanity" in years, and "VC" are his initials and I'm not sure if they really qualify as a nickname. If a nickname is truly notable, i.e. "Shaq" then it can be mentioned in the text. Otherwise, something as subjective and arguable as nickname shouldn't be in the article, let alone in the infobox. -- Mosmof ( talk) 15:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, until "Infobox CBA Player" is developed, I will try to use this template for Chinese Basketball Association players. Thanks. -- Mr Accountable ( talk) 19:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
The boldface on team name, I think, is unnecessary. The team name is basically on the first line of the players' articles. If one would brother to look at it for a second, one can see the team name clearly. Chris! c t 18:20, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I added "official profile" to the infobox, but it should only be shown if a player is in the NBA, as links to people who are not in the NBA do not exist. Could somebody please help and edit it so that "official profile" is shown only if the infobox includes "league = NBA (or National Basketball Association"? Thank you in advance. ● 8 ~ Hype @ 13:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Because there is currently an edit war over the data in this infobox at LeBron James, I need to know: Is there a way that source info (i.e. ref tags) for such items as height and weight can be incorporated into this template? -- JeffBillman ( talk) 17:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
How do you override the age for players who have died? Thanks, Group29 ( talk) 14:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm confused as some users add the teams which the player has never played for that specific team to former teams section (i.e. in Steve Francis article Portland Trail Blazers is included but you know he was released after trade from New York Knicks). Some players are traded to some teams, and released without playing a game for them. Should we include this teams to former teams section? Is there any decision taken in advance? I suppose we should put the teams only he played for. Tamburello ( talk) 21:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm all for that. We can make it a project-wide criteria and put it under a certain rule such as: "Under former teams section, add the teams for which the player had appeared in at least one (1) official game" Tamburello ( talk) 08:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I tried to upgrade the template a bit (to make it similar to the MLB and NFL), I'm usually good at these things, but for some reason there is a template loop now and I don't know why. What should I do? -- Dodgerblue777 01:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
See here. Enigma msg 04:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the player's current team is not linked anywhere in the infobox? Zagalejo ^^^ 19:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
[[[[Team]]]]
don't occur. I'm done with that now, hopefully. —
LOL
T/
C
21:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a fan of this type of infobox. I think something like the NBA retired player would look at like better. Example : Charles Barkley. Just my .02 Corpx ( talk) 00:11, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I've done some significant code cleanup of the template which amongst other things helps with its accessibility; this helps bring the template more in line with other {{ infobox}}es, and makes the code much easier to read. The code is in the sandbox; I'll sync it shortly unless there's some constructive reason not to. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 08:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
{{Infobox NFLactive}}
should also use standard presentation.
Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing);
Andy's talk;
Andy's edits
11:26, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Greetings everyone! I know I am entering this discussion a little late in the game, but feel I should put my two cents in as I spend a considerable amount of time editing NBA player's articles, including their infoboxes. I've looked at both the NBA Player and NBAretired templates and here are my thoughts on both:
everything else looks good, can't wait for this to take into affect (which will mean more editing for me to do!) Djrun ( talk) 13:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I really do not understand what this guy Thumperward is talking about, but this change did not need to happen. LOL had the infobox perfect and Thumperward, who is clearly not a sports editor came in here and messed it all up. I don't know if anyone else has this problem but the font is much smaller then that of the MLB and NFL infoboxes, which this infobox was originally modeled after. Overall I am not a fan of this change and I think it might be best if we revert to LOL's original design. Beast from da East ( talk) 20:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is related to the recent edits to the template, but I've noticed that none of the NBA.com profile links are working. Any ideas? Zagalejo ^^^ 18:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
On
Dwyane Wade, the profile
param was not supplied, so the external link showed up as "wade Dwyane Wade" and linked to
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwyane, which isn't
his profile. I
set the profile param manually and the problem went away. I think that's related to the above. --
an
odd
name
19:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
I have no problems with the code change but I still cannot stand the font size. May I suggest a change of 88 to 90 so we can finally end this saga? Beast from da East ( talk) 01:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
From what I can tell, based on experimentation, an infobox must have a career end date in order to display the players' nba.com historical playerfile. However, what can be done in a case like Steve Francis, who hasn't clearly retired from basketball, but only has a historical playerfile at NBA.com? I don't think it's correct to insert a career end date just to get the link at the bottom of the infobox to work. Zagalejo ^^^ 21:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
I am trying to make the infobox shows "No notable achievements" if nothing is passed into the highlights parameter. It was implemented but then reverted. I don't understand why such a non-controversial change needs to be discussed. Anyway, I am starting a discussion right now.— Chris! c/ t 05:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
|highlights=
to state this. I just would like the option of removing this section if the box is dwarfing the article.
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk)
20:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I knew this was going to happen, but I did not expect one of my best friends on this site in Plastikspork to do this to me. Anyways, like I've mentioned countless times before, the NBA infobox's cousins, the MLB and NFL infoboxs, both use size 90 font, it looks better, its easier to see and most importantly, everybody seems to love it. Now the NBA infobox uses the exact same format, with one exception, the font size is 88 rather then 90. When LOL and me came together to create this NBA infobox, we originally used 90, but that all changed when Chris Cunningham AKA Thumperward, who is not a member of the NBA WikiProject and has never contributed to any NBA related articles stumbled onto our glorious creation and needlessly changed the infobox. While I did not agree with his changes to the infobox, I do respect the fact that he is indeed a member of this Wikipedia community and has every right to contribute to any article he so choses. But while he may have meant well, he started something that I simply do not and will not agree with. If we can somehow come to agreement on a font size change, I can finally start my mission and make sure each and every NBA player, past and present, has this infobox in their rescpective articles. I'd also like to include more people to share their views on this matter this time then the usual four to five people. Any opinions would be greatly apprecieted. Beast from da East ( talk) 20:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)