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While implementing my bot I noticed some talk pages have a DYK image (e.g. Talk:2022 United States infant formula shortage) and article history doesn't seem to have (at least a documented) way to include that in its DYK parameters. We should probably preserve the image in the template, so is it desirable to add a functionality for that? Also ping SandyGeorgia. 0x Deadbeef→∞ ( talk to me) 08:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Please add the "hide" button to collapse this template. Most of the large banner groups have this option other than this, which leaves this sticking out. See Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe as an example. Gonnym ( talk) 13:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
It would be nice to be able to roll the information from {{ merged-from}}, {{ merged-to}}, {{ split article}}, or {{ copied}} into this "article history" list. Otherwise those banners end up taking up space at the top of talk pages indefinitely, even when, a decade later, they are largely irrelevant and unnecessary. If they could just be one (collapsable) line in a list of other "history", it would make the talk page easier to navigate for readers. This was previously proposed in Template talk:Article history/Archive 8 § Merges from other pages but did not garner any discussion. – jacobolus (t) 20:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
It would be great to make this template as compact as possible in its collapsed form. The current failed GA text says:
This text takes up a lot of space. I wonder if it can be shortened. Possibly the text could be cut down to just 1 sentence in the 'collapsed' state, or perhaps it could be shortened to e.g.
– jacobolus (t) 20:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Could someone familar with modules create the parameter maindate1
as an alias for maindate
please, so that edits like
this keep the relevant page in
Category:Featured articles that have appeared on the main page twice. Thanks. —
Voice of Clam (
talk) 07:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
A change was recently made to the GA topics, and now "football" (among other things) is a valid topic for GA. The sports section at GAN is now divided into football and other sports. GARs are listed at GAN under the relevant topic, so when Australian rules football was GARed recently, it appeared in "Other sports reassessments" because the topic was taken from article history. I changed the topic to "football", which has corrected the placement of the GAR on the GAN page, but now the talk page AH banner says "has been listed as one of the good articles" instead of "has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles", so it appears AH is aware of the GAN topic list. What needs to be done to make it aware of the new key words? Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 23:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. – wbm1058 ( talk) 19:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
– This is not just for articles; it is for pages of various sorts (for example, it has parameters for old TFDs, MFDs, and featured portals). Thus, the current name is actively misleading.
{{ Page history}} does currently exist as a redirect to {{ history}}. However, the redirect has only 11 uses which can easily be adjusted, and in general it is a silly redirect. I am not sure why you would want to use a "shortcut" which is literally the target page with additional text stuck on the beginning. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:35, 17 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal ( talk) 05:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
@ SandyGeorgia: I have no idea about the history of this template, but I can certainly see that it has become a very feature-rich. If I may be philosophical for a minute, sometimes being an all-purpose template is beneficial: nobody complains that {{ citation}} is trying to be too many things at once. There are also times that trying to be an all-purpose template is harmful: "jack of all trades, master of none" and all. This template might very well be trying to take on too many "responsibilities", in which case splitting it out into separate templates would be a good idea.
To answer your question: there is no place in the documentation that says HEY GUESS WHAT DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN USE THIS ON ALL TYPES OF TALK PAGES!!!!!
. I was referring to the fact that this template contains parameters documented in
#Syntax which only apply to non-articles. For instance, under the "Deletion processes" header, you can see that this template currently takes |TFD=
and |MFD=
parameters. (Obviously, mainspace articles don't go to TFD or MFD.) It also has parameters (see the "Featured content process" header) for
featured portals.
House
Blaster (
talk · he/him) 02:22, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
{{
Old XfD multi}}
may be used. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 12:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Called away, will continue later, but it looks from these like the problem may be more easily solved by using a multiple TFD or multiple MFD template on the eight pages that are using AH for TFD or MFD. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
253 user pages ???
131 user talk pages? [2] SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article}}
{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article 2}}
{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article 3}}
{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article}}
{{
ArticleHistory}}
(a redir). Amakuru is still active, but hasn't edited this page since 2012{{
ArticleHistory}}
. Amakuru hasn't edited this page since 2012{{
ArticleHistory}}
. Amakuru hasn't edited this page since 2018{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article}}
{{
Article history}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User is inactive, and has few edits outside user space - last edited April 2020{{
ArticleHistory}}
.
Dr. Blofeld is still active, but hasn't edited this page since 2016{{
Article history}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User is inactive - last edited April 2020{{
Article history}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User is semi-active - last edited March 2024{{
ArticleHistory}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User's only edit was to create this page in 2012{{
Article history}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User's only edit was to create this page in 2020{{
ArticleHistory}}
, apparently used correctly. User has been blocked since 2009{{
ArticleHistory}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User has been inactive since 2016I have started {{ portal history}} to cater to the obvious demand ( 175 uses), even though portals don't have content review processes anymore (as far as I am aware). Still on the todo list include supporting MFDs and Wikipedia:Portal peer review (which this template never supported). I realize that these are historical processes, but that is kinda the point of these templates: documenting history. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
I had a good topic delisted and the whole process is obscure and difficult to accommodate. Why do we not have "Good topic reassessment" and "Featured topic reassessment" parameters? There is also no "Good topic removal candidate". Has nobody ever needed to update articles after a delisted GT/FT? Has there never been a delisted GT/FT before? Super Ψ Dro 13:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Module:Article history/config has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change FGAN from
FGAN = {
id = 'FGAN',
name = 'Former good article nominee',
aliases = {'FAILEDGA'},
icon = 'Symbol unsupport vote.svg',
More stuff after.
but change the icon to
Symbol oppose vote.svg 48JCL TALK 22:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
{{icon|noga}}
makes and
Template:FailedGA uses the same logo. pretty sure you’re an admin so please help edit the module to change the logo of FGAN to Symbol oppose vote.svg thx and congrats on being an admin. Cheers
48JCL
TALK 14:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Template:Article history is permanently
protected from editing because it is a
heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by
consensus, editors may use {{
edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's
documentation to add usage notes or
categories.
Any contributor may edit the template's sandbox. Functionality of the template can be checked using test cases. |
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Article history template. |
|
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11Auto-archiving period: 180 days |
To-do list for Template:Article history:
|
While implementing my bot I noticed some talk pages have a DYK image (e.g. Talk:2022 United States infant formula shortage) and article history doesn't seem to have (at least a documented) way to include that in its DYK parameters. We should probably preserve the image in the template, so is it desirable to add a functionality for that? Also ping SandyGeorgia. 0x Deadbeef→∞ ( talk to me) 08:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Please add the "hide" button to collapse this template. Most of the large banner groups have this option other than this, which leaves this sticking out. See Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe as an example. Gonnym ( talk) 13:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
It would be nice to be able to roll the information from {{ merged-from}}, {{ merged-to}}, {{ split article}}, or {{ copied}} into this "article history" list. Otherwise those banners end up taking up space at the top of talk pages indefinitely, even when, a decade later, they are largely irrelevant and unnecessary. If they could just be one (collapsable) line in a list of other "history", it would make the talk page easier to navigate for readers. This was previously proposed in Template talk:Article history/Archive 8 § Merges from other pages but did not garner any discussion. – jacobolus (t) 20:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
It would be great to make this template as compact as possible in its collapsed form. The current failed GA text says:
This text takes up a lot of space. I wonder if it can be shortened. Possibly the text could be cut down to just 1 sentence in the 'collapsed' state, or perhaps it could be shortened to e.g.
– jacobolus (t) 20:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Could someone familar with modules create the parameter maindate1
as an alias for maindate
please, so that edits like
this keep the relevant page in
Category:Featured articles that have appeared on the main page twice. Thanks. —
Voice of Clam (
talk) 07:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
A change was recently made to the GA topics, and now "football" (among other things) is a valid topic for GA. The sports section at GAN is now divided into football and other sports. GARs are listed at GAN under the relevant topic, so when Australian rules football was GARed recently, it appeared in "Other sports reassessments" because the topic was taken from article history. I changed the topic to "football", which has corrected the placement of the GAR on the GAN page, but now the talk page AH banner says "has been listed as one of the good articles" instead of "has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles", so it appears AH is aware of the GAN topic list. What needs to be done to make it aware of the new key words? Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 23:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. – wbm1058 ( talk) 19:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
– This is not just for articles; it is for pages of various sorts (for example, it has parameters for old TFDs, MFDs, and featured portals). Thus, the current name is actively misleading.
{{ Page history}} does currently exist as a redirect to {{ history}}. However, the redirect has only 11 uses which can easily be adjusted, and in general it is a silly redirect. I am not sure why you would want to use a "shortcut" which is literally the target page with additional text stuck on the beginning. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 16:35, 17 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal ( talk) 05:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
@ SandyGeorgia: I have no idea about the history of this template, but I can certainly see that it has become a very feature-rich. If I may be philosophical for a minute, sometimes being an all-purpose template is beneficial: nobody complains that {{ citation}} is trying to be too many things at once. There are also times that trying to be an all-purpose template is harmful: "jack of all trades, master of none" and all. This template might very well be trying to take on too many "responsibilities", in which case splitting it out into separate templates would be a good idea.
To answer your question: there is no place in the documentation that says HEY GUESS WHAT DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN USE THIS ON ALL TYPES OF TALK PAGES!!!!!
. I was referring to the fact that this template contains parameters documented in
#Syntax which only apply to non-articles. For instance, under the "Deletion processes" header, you can see that this template currently takes |TFD=
and |MFD=
parameters. (Obviously, mainspace articles don't go to TFD or MFD.) It also has parameters (see the "Featured content process" header) for
featured portals.
House
Blaster (
talk · he/him) 02:22, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
{{
Old XfD multi}}
may be used. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 12:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Called away, will continue later, but it looks from these like the problem may be more easily solved by using a multiple TFD or multiple MFD template on the eight pages that are using AH for TFD or MFD. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
253 user pages ???
131 user talk pages? [2] SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article}}
{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article 2}}
{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article 3}}
{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article}}
{{
ArticleHistory}}
(a redir). Amakuru is still active, but hasn't edited this page since 2012{{
ArticleHistory}}
. Amakuru hasn't edited this page since 2012{{
ArticleHistory}}
. Amakuru hasn't edited this page since 2018{{
User:Amakuru/Featured article}}
{{
Article history}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User is inactive, and has few edits outside user space - last edited April 2020{{
ArticleHistory}}
.
Dr. Blofeld is still active, but hasn't edited this page since 2016{{
Article history}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User is inactive - last edited April 2020{{
Article history}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User is semi-active - last edited March 2024{{
ArticleHistory}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User's only edit was to create this page in 2012{{
Article history}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User's only edit was to create this page in 2020{{
ArticleHistory}}
, apparently used correctly. User has been blocked since 2009{{
ArticleHistory}}
, but is misused (probably a test). User has been inactive since 2016I have started {{ portal history}} to cater to the obvious demand ( 175 uses), even though portals don't have content review processes anymore (as far as I am aware). Still on the todo list include supporting MFDs and Wikipedia:Portal peer review (which this template never supported). I realize that these are historical processes, but that is kinda the point of these templates: documenting history. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 00:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
I had a good topic delisted and the whole process is obscure and difficult to accommodate. Why do we not have "Good topic reassessment" and "Featured topic reassessment" parameters? There is also no "Good topic removal candidate". Has nobody ever needed to update articles after a delisted GT/FT? Has there never been a delisted GT/FT before? Super Ψ Dro 13:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Module:Article history/config has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change FGAN from
FGAN = {
id = 'FGAN',
name = 'Former good article nominee',
aliases = {'FAILEDGA'},
icon = 'Symbol unsupport vote.svg',
More stuff after.
but change the icon to
Symbol oppose vote.svg 48JCL TALK 22:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
{{icon|noga}}
makes and
Template:FailedGA uses the same logo. pretty sure you’re an admin so please help edit the module to change the logo of FGAN to Symbol oppose vote.svg thx and congrats on being an admin. Cheers
48JCL
TALK 14:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)