- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
BlueMoonset (
talk) 00:09, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
The Afterman: Ascension
- ... that Coheed and Cambria's sixth studio album, The Afterman: Ascension, will be released with a hardcover coffee-table book in order to explain the Amory Wars storyline it tells?
- Reviewed: Weight & Glory
Created/expanded by Delusion23 ( talk). Self nom at 19:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
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The hook reads somewhat like an advert for the Oct 2012 release. The
source cited in the article appears to be a fan blog that has reprinted the band's press release. It doesn't actually say the book is to explain the storyline. What is says is, "that will create a song by song experience". This also specifies that the album-book combo is the deluxe version of the album. Does this mean there is another version to be released, one without the book and less expensive? Neither the article nor the hook mention this release as the deluxe edition.
Maile66 (
talk) 15:25, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed it does seem like it is the deluxe version of the album so I'll alter the hook and article with this in mind. I'm not sure what the distinction is between a book that goes through a concept album's songs one by one with descriptive pages, and one that explains the story the concept album is telling. Is there a difference? I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the book is there to explain the story, seeing as their last album was also released with a book that told the story too. With regards to the Cobalt and Calcium ref, I've replaced with other references. As for how to prevent the hook sounding like an advert, how is this done for any DYK which is about something that can be purchased (like an album or book), either in the future or currently? Perhaps:
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- ALT1 ... that the deluxe version of Coheed and Cambria's album, The Afterman: Ascension, gives a song-by-song experience using a hardcover coffee-table book?
I'm open to other suggestions. Del♉sion23 (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- I think Alt 1 is good. Except that because it doesn't happen until October, maybe it could say "will give" instead of "give". Other than that, I think Alt 1 is the better hook.
Maile66 (
talk) 18:15, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Sure thing, here is the future tense version. Del♉sion23 (talk) 18:22, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- I think Alt 1 is good. Except that because it doesn't happen until October, maybe it could say "will give" instead of "give". Other than that, I think Alt 1 is the better hook.
Maile66 (
talk) 18:15, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that the deluxe version of Coheed and Cambria's album, The Afterman: Ascension, will give a song-by-song experience using a hardcover coffee-table book?
- The following has been checked in this review by Maile66
- QPQ done by Delusion23 on August 6, 2012
- Article created by Delusion23 on August 7, 2012 and has 3,064 characters of readable prose
- NPOV article about band's upcoming release
- Every paragraph sourced
- Alt 2 Hook preferred, interesting and informative, short enough at 177 characters, and sourced appropriately
- Image used in the article is acknowledged non-free cover art
- Duplication Detector run, no copyvio found
- Time spent on review approximately 45 minutes
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Good to go
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
BlueMoonset (
talk) 00:09, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
The Afterman: Ascension
- ... that Coheed and Cambria's sixth studio album, The Afterman: Ascension, will be released with a hardcover coffee-table book in order to explain the Amory Wars storyline it tells?
- Reviewed: Weight & Glory
Created/expanded by Delusion23 ( talk). Self nom at 19:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
-
The hook reads somewhat like an advert for the Oct 2012 release. The
source cited in the article appears to be a fan blog that has reprinted the band's press release. It doesn't actually say the book is to explain the storyline. What is says is, "that will create a song by song experience". This also specifies that the album-book combo is the deluxe version of the album. Does this mean there is another version to be released, one without the book and less expensive? Neither the article nor the hook mention this release as the deluxe edition.
Maile66 (
talk) 15:25, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed it does seem like it is the deluxe version of the album so I'll alter the hook and article with this in mind. I'm not sure what the distinction is between a book that goes through a concept album's songs one by one with descriptive pages, and one that explains the story the concept album is telling. Is there a difference? I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the book is there to explain the story, seeing as their last album was also released with a book that told the story too. With regards to the Cobalt and Calcium ref, I've replaced with other references. As for how to prevent the hook sounding like an advert, how is this done for any DYK which is about something that can be purchased (like an album or book), either in the future or currently? Perhaps:
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- ALT1 ... that the deluxe version of Coheed and Cambria's album, The Afterman: Ascension, gives a song-by-song experience using a hardcover coffee-table book?
I'm open to other suggestions. Del♉sion23 (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- I think Alt 1 is good. Except that because it doesn't happen until October, maybe it could say "will give" instead of "give". Other than that, I think Alt 1 is the better hook.
Maile66 (
talk) 18:15, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Sure thing, here is the future tense version. Del♉sion23 (talk) 18:22, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- I think Alt 1 is good. Except that because it doesn't happen until October, maybe it could say "will give" instead of "give". Other than that, I think Alt 1 is the better hook.
Maile66 (
talk) 18:15, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that the deluxe version of Coheed and Cambria's album, The Afterman: Ascension, will give a song-by-song experience using a hardcover coffee-table book?
- The following has been checked in this review by Maile66
- QPQ done by Delusion23 on August 6, 2012
- Article created by Delusion23 on August 7, 2012 and has 3,064 characters of readable prose
- NPOV article about band's upcoming release
- Every paragraph sourced
- Alt 2 Hook preferred, interesting and informative, short enough at 177 characters, and sourced appropriately
- Image used in the article is acknowledged non-free cover art
- Duplication Detector run, no copyvio found
- Time spent on review approximately 45 minutes
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Good to go