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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3  talk 11:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Muneer Awad

Created by Alf.laylah.wa.laylah ( talk). Self nominated at 23:50, 1 March 2014 (UTC).

  • The article is about a lawsuit filed in Oklahoma, not Georgia.
  • And while the article is the name of the attorney "Muneer Awad", there are only 5 sentences about him apart from this lawsuit. I did notice in this source that the attorney was not licensed to practice in the state of Oklahoma. Would this article benefit by a page name move to the title of the lawsuit itself?
  • It would be good to see more specifics on the lawsuit, such as the name and/or number of the Oklahoma state amendment and statics on the voter approval rather than "overwhelmingly". Also, the resulting lawsuit must have had a name "Awad v. State of Oklahoma", or whatever it was.
  • What is the current status of the lawsuit after it was upheld in a court of appeals in 2012? Does Oklahoma have plans to appeal it higher up? Will it end up in the United State Supreme Court?
— Maile ( talk) 13:37, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Doh! Oklahoma. I'll get on it right away. He was the plaintiff rather than the attorney, and there is a name. Be back with you in a few hours. Thanks for your careful reading.— alf laylah wa laylah ( talk) 14:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • OK, I put in more details about the election and about the case, although unfortunately I had to go behind some paywalls to do it. I also added a little info about Awad's role in CAIR-NYC's opposition to Pamela Geller's subway ad campaigns. I'm not sure the article should be only about the case, because there is a reasonable amount of other info about Awad, although I do take your point. He's broadly but not deeply covered in relation to the Geller thing, which I think ought to be in there too. The big question is what's the status of the case. I can't find any information about it. Oklahoma seems to have dropped it, but I can find no source that specifically says so. I did find a source that says the US Supreme Court found it unconstitutional, but since that's from 2012 I think the reporter is just confused and I'd rather not rely on it. I don't want to say anything like "so far the case has not been brought to the Supreme Court" because I don't really know; maybe they denied cert and no one wrote about it. A flurry of 2013 law review articles don't say one way or the other. I'd rather say nothing than draw a conclusion from silence. Anyway, I hope I've addressed your concerns. Please let me know. Thanks again— alf laylah wa laylah ( talk) 15:48, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Good 2 go. Created on March 1, 2014, and has 2649 characters (0 words) "readable prose size". The article is much better now with the additional edits. I ran Duplication Detector on all the sourcing and found no issues of concern. In this case, I don't think it's necessary to duplicate the hook's exact phrasing in the article, because the entire article and its sourcing is about the successful lawsuit. — Maile ( talk) 19:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3  talk 11:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Muneer Awad

Created by Alf.laylah.wa.laylah ( talk). Self nominated at 23:50, 1 March 2014 (UTC).

  • The article is about a lawsuit filed in Oklahoma, not Georgia.
  • And while the article is the name of the attorney "Muneer Awad", there are only 5 sentences about him apart from this lawsuit. I did notice in this source that the attorney was not licensed to practice in the state of Oklahoma. Would this article benefit by a page name move to the title of the lawsuit itself?
  • It would be good to see more specifics on the lawsuit, such as the name and/or number of the Oklahoma state amendment and statics on the voter approval rather than "overwhelmingly". Also, the resulting lawsuit must have had a name "Awad v. State of Oklahoma", or whatever it was.
  • What is the current status of the lawsuit after it was upheld in a court of appeals in 2012? Does Oklahoma have plans to appeal it higher up? Will it end up in the United State Supreme Court?
— Maile ( talk) 13:37, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Doh! Oklahoma. I'll get on it right away. He was the plaintiff rather than the attorney, and there is a name. Be back with you in a few hours. Thanks for your careful reading.— alf laylah wa laylah ( talk) 14:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • OK, I put in more details about the election and about the case, although unfortunately I had to go behind some paywalls to do it. I also added a little info about Awad's role in CAIR-NYC's opposition to Pamela Geller's subway ad campaigns. I'm not sure the article should be only about the case, because there is a reasonable amount of other info about Awad, although I do take your point. He's broadly but not deeply covered in relation to the Geller thing, which I think ought to be in there too. The big question is what's the status of the case. I can't find any information about it. Oklahoma seems to have dropped it, but I can find no source that specifically says so. I did find a source that says the US Supreme Court found it unconstitutional, but since that's from 2012 I think the reporter is just confused and I'd rather not rely on it. I don't want to say anything like "so far the case has not been brought to the Supreme Court" because I don't really know; maybe they denied cert and no one wrote about it. A flurry of 2013 law review articles don't say one way or the other. I'd rather say nothing than draw a conclusion from silence. Anyway, I hope I've addressed your concerns. Please let me know. Thanks again— alf laylah wa laylah ( talk) 15:48, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Good 2 go. Created on March 1, 2014, and has 2649 characters (0 words) "readable prose size". The article is much better now with the additional edits. I ran Duplication Detector on all the sourcing and found no issues of concern. In this case, I don't think it's necessary to duplicate the hook's exact phrasing in the article, because the entire article and its sourcing is about the successful lawsuit. — Maile ( talk) 19:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

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