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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Zanhe ( talk) 22:47, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

John Martin (judge)

  • ... that John Martin, first Chief Justice of the Cherokee Supreme Court, had no formal legal training?

Created by Bruin2 ( talk). Self-nominated at 21:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Nice article. Its long enough and has a good number of cites but one para lacks a ref. I can also see the lack of training mentioned in a note which is cited. Can you move this to the main article as its part of your hook. Pity these are no images. I couldn't see any paraphrasing from the main source which I looked over. QPQ is done and it neutral. Thanks @ Bruin2:. Just those two points.... oh and Alt1 looks as if it won't do as the acticle (and the first source) says "His father was John (Jack) Martin, Senior, a white man who was reportedly the brother of General Joseph Martin." - (can you also fix the link to Gen. Martin) Victuallers ( talk) 14:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Reminder to @ Bruin2: Victuallers ( talk) 21:44, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Victuallers. Sorry for my delay in responding, but my computer has failed. Will take another week or so to get back in normal operation. I was able to fix some of the issues you raised before I lost the computer. Anyhow, I wanted to thank you for taking the time and effort to review the DYK. I see my mistake in ALT1. The judge was actually the nephew of General Joseph Martin, not the grandson. Thanks for catching that. Bruin2 ( talk) 17:07, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Bruin2: I modded the alt Victuallers ( talk) 16:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Bruin2: .... a week? Victuallers ( talk) 12:23, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi BlueMoonset and Victuallers: I apologize for the delay, but I ended up replacing my old computer, which took longer than I had anticipated. But now I think I am good to go. I still need to replace some of my old software, but that doesn't impact my work on Wikipedia. Thanks for your help in the meanwhile. I added some info earlier today. I think the issue of Judge John's relationship to General Joseph is clear now. I've added a couple more citations, too. Do you see any other loose ends that I need to tie up? Bruin2 ( talk) 05:07, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
One more thing, I have done a Google search for a usable image of the judge. There are very few images and none of them are clearly marked for the Public Domain. Per Wikimedia policy, we cannot post the others. Do you know any other PD sources for this? Thanks. Bruin2 ( talk) 17:14, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • User:Victuallers, have the issues now been addressed to satisfaction? 4meter4 ( talk) 15:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
    • Looking better. We still have a para ("Martin's experiences in losing his Georgia homes ...") that lacks a ref. With regard to the image. If you can find one then you can load it to wikiPedia as long as its small - lo res and only used as the prime picture for this article. Victuallers ( talk) 15:29, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Bruin2: THere are a lot of reminders here and the point above was raised on 2nd November. Victuallers ( talk) 10:54, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
I added some more info about the properties in Georgia that were taken from Martin, and added citation. Further searching with Google has not located any suitable pictures of our subject. Hopefully at least one will turn up in the future. Bruin2 ( talk) 06:00, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Sourcing issues have been resolved. Article is new enough, long enough, appears to follow wikipedia policies, and no close paraphrasing detected. Both hooks verified to cited online sources. QPQ is done. This article can be promoted. 4meter4 ( talk) 03:26, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Zanhe ( talk) 22:47, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

John Martin (judge)

  • ... that John Martin, first Chief Justice of the Cherokee Supreme Court, had no formal legal training?

Created by Bruin2 ( talk). Self-nominated at 21:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Nice article. Its long enough and has a good number of cites but one para lacks a ref. I can also see the lack of training mentioned in a note which is cited. Can you move this to the main article as its part of your hook. Pity these are no images. I couldn't see any paraphrasing from the main source which I looked over. QPQ is done and it neutral. Thanks @ Bruin2:. Just those two points.... oh and Alt1 looks as if it won't do as the acticle (and the first source) says "His father was John (Jack) Martin, Senior, a white man who was reportedly the brother of General Joseph Martin." - (can you also fix the link to Gen. Martin) Victuallers ( talk) 14:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Reminder to @ Bruin2: Victuallers ( talk) 21:44, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Victuallers. Sorry for my delay in responding, but my computer has failed. Will take another week or so to get back in normal operation. I was able to fix some of the issues you raised before I lost the computer. Anyhow, I wanted to thank you for taking the time and effort to review the DYK. I see my mistake in ALT1. The judge was actually the nephew of General Joseph Martin, not the grandson. Thanks for catching that. Bruin2 ( talk) 17:07, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Bruin2: I modded the alt Victuallers ( talk) 16:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Bruin2: .... a week? Victuallers ( talk) 12:23, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi BlueMoonset and Victuallers: I apologize for the delay, but I ended up replacing my old computer, which took longer than I had anticipated. But now I think I am good to go. I still need to replace some of my old software, but that doesn't impact my work on Wikipedia. Thanks for your help in the meanwhile. I added some info earlier today. I think the issue of Judge John's relationship to General Joseph is clear now. I've added a couple more citations, too. Do you see any other loose ends that I need to tie up? Bruin2 ( talk) 05:07, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
One more thing, I have done a Google search for a usable image of the judge. There are very few images and none of them are clearly marked for the Public Domain. Per Wikimedia policy, we cannot post the others. Do you know any other PD sources for this? Thanks. Bruin2 ( talk) 17:14, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
  • User:Victuallers, have the issues now been addressed to satisfaction? 4meter4 ( talk) 15:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
    • Looking better. We still have a para ("Martin's experiences in losing his Georgia homes ...") that lacks a ref. With regard to the image. If you can find one then you can load it to wikiPedia as long as its small - lo res and only used as the prime picture for this article. Victuallers ( talk) 15:29, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
@ Bruin2: THere are a lot of reminders here and the point above was raised on 2nd November. Victuallers ( talk) 10:54, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
I added some more info about the properties in Georgia that were taken from Martin, and added citation. Further searching with Google has not located any suitable pictures of our subject. Hopefully at least one will turn up in the future. Bruin2 ( talk) 06:00, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Sourcing issues have been resolved. Article is new enough, long enough, appears to follow wikipedia policies, and no close paraphrasing detected. Both hooks verified to cited online sources. QPQ is done. This article can be promoted. 4meter4 ( talk) 03:26, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

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