The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 13:49, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
... that after taking up arms against Hungary during the failed
1848 revolution, Ioan Pușcariu, an
ethnic Romanian, returned to work in Hungarian government service for decades?
ALT1:... that the name of
ethnic RomanianIoan Pușcașiu was written down as Pușcariu by his superiors during the
1848 revolution, prompting the rest of the family to follow suit in changing the spelling?
ALT2:... that Ioan Pușcariu argued for an active political stance by Transylvania's Romanians after the
Austro-Hungarian Compromise, was soundly defeated but eventually vindicated?
ALT4:... that Ioan Pușcariu appealed for information on the Transylvania's Romanian noble families in 1862, finished publishing the resultant book in 1895 and was consequently made a full member of the
Romanian Academy in 1900?
Created by
Biruitorul (
talk). Self-nominated at 13:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC).
No issues found with article, ready for human review.
✓ This article is new and was created on 21:06, 08 August 2016 (UTC)
✓ This article meets the DYK criteria at 10502 characters
✓ All paragraphs in this article have at least one citation
✓ This article has no outstanding maintenance tags
✓ A copyright violation is unlikely according to automated metrics (0.0% confidence;
confirm)
Note to reviewers: There is low confidence in this automated metric, please manually verify that there is no copyright infringement or close paraphrasing. Note that this number may be inflated due to cited quotes and titles which do not constitute a copyright violation.
No overall issues detected
✓ The hook ALT0 is an appropriate length at 131 characters
✓ The hook ALT1 is an appropriate length at 132 characters
✓ The hook ALT2 is an appropriate length at 167 characters
✓ The hook ALT3 is an appropriate length at 139 characters
✗ The hook ALT4 is too long at 214 characters
✓ The hook ALT5 is an appropriate length at 152 characters
This article looks pretty good, with the original hook (ALT0) being the most interesting while being neutral, followed by ALT1 and ALT3 respectively. All seem to be sourced (AGF per language). I would say however that the hooks should be edited somehow to add slightly more context. In all three I think it'd be useful to describe him as ethnic Romanian. For ALT0 I think it should note that the 1848 revolution failed, "...during the failed 1848 revolution...". I would also change it to say "...Ioan Pușcariu returned to work in...". Regarding ALT1 the article makes it seem not like the name was changed, but that it was written down incorrectly by mistake, so some rewording is a possibility there. As for the article, it states that he joined the "Transylvanian Revolution of 1848", as opposed to the "Hungarian Revolution of 1848" mentioned in hooks here, and if they're the same the article name should be changed to match. Best,
CMD (
talk) 15:25, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
@
Chipmunkdavis: - Thank you for the review. I hope I've addressed your concerns. Regarding the 1848 revolution, the one in Transylvania (for which we still don't have an article) was a subset of the wider Hungarian revolution, so both links are acceptable in this case. -
BiruitorulTalk 15:43, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
@
Biruitorul: - Thanks for the interesting history article. For me it's now a coin flip between ALT0 and ALT1, which interest me in different ways, but both appear (AGF language) to be sourced. I guessed that the Transylvania revolution was a subset of the Hungarian one, but that is because I know where Transylvania is and where Hungary is (and was) and a broad overview of the history of the area. Many readers may not have this background awareness. It is thus incongruous to link to two different things in the article and the hook, and given the Hungary article exists, I would prefer it if the article mentioned that one so that readers can find it. Perhaps you can edit the article so that it notes the Transylvanian revolution was part of the wider Hungarian one.
CMD (
talk) 16:23, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 13:49, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
... that after taking up arms against Hungary during the failed
1848 revolution, Ioan Pușcariu, an
ethnic Romanian, returned to work in Hungarian government service for decades?
ALT1:... that the name of
ethnic RomanianIoan Pușcașiu was written down as Pușcariu by his superiors during the
1848 revolution, prompting the rest of the family to follow suit in changing the spelling?
ALT2:... that Ioan Pușcariu argued for an active political stance by Transylvania's Romanians after the
Austro-Hungarian Compromise, was soundly defeated but eventually vindicated?
ALT4:... that Ioan Pușcariu appealed for information on the Transylvania's Romanian noble families in 1862, finished publishing the resultant book in 1895 and was consequently made a full member of the
Romanian Academy in 1900?
Created by
Biruitorul (
talk). Self-nominated at 13:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC).
No issues found with article, ready for human review.
✓ This article is new and was created on 21:06, 08 August 2016 (UTC)
✓ This article meets the DYK criteria at 10502 characters
✓ All paragraphs in this article have at least one citation
✓ This article has no outstanding maintenance tags
✓ A copyright violation is unlikely according to automated metrics (0.0% confidence;
confirm)
Note to reviewers: There is low confidence in this automated metric, please manually verify that there is no copyright infringement or close paraphrasing. Note that this number may be inflated due to cited quotes and titles which do not constitute a copyright violation.
No overall issues detected
✓ The hook ALT0 is an appropriate length at 131 characters
✓ The hook ALT1 is an appropriate length at 132 characters
✓ The hook ALT2 is an appropriate length at 167 characters
✓ The hook ALT3 is an appropriate length at 139 characters
✗ The hook ALT4 is too long at 214 characters
✓ The hook ALT5 is an appropriate length at 152 characters
This article looks pretty good, with the original hook (ALT0) being the most interesting while being neutral, followed by ALT1 and ALT3 respectively. All seem to be sourced (AGF per language). I would say however that the hooks should be edited somehow to add slightly more context. In all three I think it'd be useful to describe him as ethnic Romanian. For ALT0 I think it should note that the 1848 revolution failed, "...during the failed 1848 revolution...". I would also change it to say "...Ioan Pușcariu returned to work in...". Regarding ALT1 the article makes it seem not like the name was changed, but that it was written down incorrectly by mistake, so some rewording is a possibility there. As for the article, it states that he joined the "Transylvanian Revolution of 1848", as opposed to the "Hungarian Revolution of 1848" mentioned in hooks here, and if they're the same the article name should be changed to match. Best,
CMD (
talk) 15:25, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
@
Chipmunkdavis: - Thank you for the review. I hope I've addressed your concerns. Regarding the 1848 revolution, the one in Transylvania (for which we still don't have an article) was a subset of the wider Hungarian revolution, so both links are acceptable in this case. -
BiruitorulTalk 15:43, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
@
Biruitorul: - Thanks for the interesting history article. For me it's now a coin flip between ALT0 and ALT1, which interest me in different ways, but both appear (AGF language) to be sourced. I guessed that the Transylvania revolution was a subset of the Hungarian one, but that is because I know where Transylvania is and where Hungary is (and was) and a broad overview of the history of the area. Many readers may not have this background awareness. It is thus incongruous to link to two different things in the article and the hook, and given the Hungary article exists, I would prefer it if the article mentioned that one so that readers can find it. Perhaps you can edit the article so that it notes the Transylvanian revolution was part of the wider Hungarian one.
CMD (
talk) 16:23, 26 August 2016 (UTC)