I will take a look at this.
simongraham (
talk) 15:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
This looks good. The article is new enough (written on 17 July), long enough (3,786b of prose), has no copyright violations (Turnitin and Earwig report 0% likelihood) and seems well-sourced. The hook is quirky and I feel is interesting. Is there a reference for the assertion? Coonin 2018 p. 18 states that he "was probably not closely related to the famous Bardi family".
simongraham (
talk) 14:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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Simongraham: We know Donatello's immediate family was not the Bardi bankers (Coonin p.17 establishes this I believe), and then Coonin p.18 says that it's not likely they were extended family, either, but distant - I suppose given the focus in that part of the article is on how intertwined the Bardi branches were or weren't, that's why I only cited p.18. But, yeah, we could add p.17 to the reference.
Kingsif (
talk) 23:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Expanded reference in article.
Kingsif (
talk) 22:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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Kingsif: Does the hook need the caveat "probably" as per the source?
simongraham (
talk) 04:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
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Simongraham: I don't think the hook needs it; the source establishes his immediate family was not the famous bankers, which I would feel comfortable to say confirms that "he wasn't [one]". The sentence in the article about how distant that relation is, might warrant it, though other sources speak more firmly (e.g.
[1]).
Kingsif (
talk) 11:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
I will take a look at this.
simongraham (
talk) 15:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
This looks good. The article is new enough (written on 17 July), long enough (3,786b of prose), has no copyright violations (Turnitin and Earwig report 0% likelihood) and seems well-sourced. The hook is quirky and I feel is interesting. Is there a reference for the assertion? Coonin 2018 p. 18 states that he "was probably not closely related to the famous Bardi family".
simongraham (
talk) 14:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
@
Simongraham: We know Donatello's immediate family was not the Bardi bankers (Coonin p.17 establishes this I believe), and then Coonin p.18 says that it's not likely they were extended family, either, but distant - I suppose given the focus in that part of the article is on how intertwined the Bardi branches were or weren't, that's why I only cited p.18. But, yeah, we could add p.17 to the reference.
Kingsif (
talk) 23:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Expanded reference in article.
Kingsif (
talk) 22:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
@
Kingsif: Does the hook need the caveat "probably" as per the source?
simongraham (
talk) 04:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
@
Simongraham: I don't think the hook needs it; the source establishes his immediate family was not the famous bankers, which I would feel comfortable to say confirms that "he wasn't [one]". The sentence in the article about how distant that relation is, might warrant it, though other sources speak more firmly (e.g.
[1]).
Kingsif (
talk) 11:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC)