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Improved to Good Article status by Eritha ( talk). Self-nominated at 22:03, 4 January 2020 (UTC).
Thanks, all good points! hook could be changed to "... that archaeologist Winifred Lamb worked as a codebreaker during World War 1?" to avoid the 'probably' issue. I described her as an archaeologist as that's what she's best known for (as well as her museum curatorial work), and she was collecting and carrying out archaeological work (in the British Museum; publishing in JHS) during her war-work as well, but something like "... that archaeologist Winifred Lamb had previously worked as a codebreaker during World War 1?" would make it clearer that the bulk of her archaeological work came afterwards? Eritha ( talk) 10:29, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
I have double-checked sources and they don't make it entirely clear, so ALT2 or ALT3 would be best, I am happy with either! and thanks, I'm glad you found it an interesting article :) Eritha ( talk) 12:36, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
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A forthcoming biography, Winifred Lamb: Aegean Prehistorian and Museum Curator by David W. J. Gill, should be useful for expanding this article. – Joe ( talk) 11:58, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Caeciliusinhorto ( talk · contribs) 11:35, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
I will review this article.
On an initial readthrough, it looks good: some more-or-less picky prose comments.
I also made a few minor corrections here.
Further comments anon. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 11:35, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
On a second look, I have a few more stylistic points, but also some issues of substance:
With Christmas coming on, I'm not sure how much time I'm going to have to go through the rest of this in the next few days; I will grab time where I get it, but I might not finish my comments until early January...
Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 14:39, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for these - picky comments always welcome! I think I've fixed these all now - re the problems for women in Turkey, as the source was vague I've just rewritten that sentence. Other edits are all as per your comments. Please do let me know if any of these need more work/any other comments! Eritha ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:36, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Lamb was a founding member of the British Institute of Archaeology at Ankara, whose creation was initiated in 1946 by John Garstang, and served as its honorary secretary from its formal opening in 1948 until 1956Is this the date that Gill gives in Winifred Lamb? The DNB and Breaking Ground both say 1957.
Once we get this point cleared up, I think this is pretty much ready for promotion to GA. There's probably some more useful stuff in the chapter on her in Breaking Ground if you are interested in further expanding the article – if you don't have access, drop me an email and I'll get you a copy – but I don't think that you need that to bring the article up to GA standard. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 21:51, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, Gill says that she "felt able to resign as Honorary Secretary of the BIAA at the end of 1956" - so possibly resignation took effect from 1957 onwards and that's why the other two sources give that date? It's not entirely clear. I have a copy of Breaking Ground so will certainly check that for more info later on! Eritha ( talk) 10:46, 2 January 2020 (UTC)Eritha
Just to follow up - I've checked with Gill who has confirmed that her resignation was submitted in late 1956 and took effect in 1957, so the various sources are not actually in disagreement, but 1957 is the more correct date to give as the end of her period as hon. sec. Eritha ( talk) 17:32, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks again for all your work on the review! Eritha ( talk) 12:11, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Winifred Lamb has been listed as one of the
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The result was: promoted by
BlueMoonset (
talk) 06:02, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Eritha ( talk). Self-nominated at 22:03, 4 January 2020 (UTC).
Thanks, all good points! hook could be changed to "... that archaeologist Winifred Lamb worked as a codebreaker during World War 1?" to avoid the 'probably' issue. I described her as an archaeologist as that's what she's best known for (as well as her museum curatorial work), and she was collecting and carrying out archaeological work (in the British Museum; publishing in JHS) during her war-work as well, but something like "... that archaeologist Winifred Lamb had previously worked as a codebreaker during World War 1?" would make it clearer that the bulk of her archaeological work came afterwards? Eritha ( talk) 10:29, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
I have double-checked sources and they don't make it entirely clear, so ALT2 or ALT3 would be best, I am happy with either! and thanks, I'm glad you found it an interesting article :) Eritha ( talk) 12:36, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
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A forthcoming biography, Winifred Lamb: Aegean Prehistorian and Museum Curator by David W. J. Gill, should be useful for expanding this article. – Joe ( talk) 11:58, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Caeciliusinhorto ( talk · contribs) 11:35, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
I will review this article.
On an initial readthrough, it looks good: some more-or-less picky prose comments.
I also made a few minor corrections here.
Further comments anon. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 11:35, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
On a second look, I have a few more stylistic points, but also some issues of substance:
With Christmas coming on, I'm not sure how much time I'm going to have to go through the rest of this in the next few days; I will grab time where I get it, but I might not finish my comments until early January...
Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 14:39, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for these - picky comments always welcome! I think I've fixed these all now - re the problems for women in Turkey, as the source was vague I've just rewritten that sentence. Other edits are all as per your comments. Please do let me know if any of these need more work/any other comments! Eritha ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:36, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Lamb was a founding member of the British Institute of Archaeology at Ankara, whose creation was initiated in 1946 by John Garstang, and served as its honorary secretary from its formal opening in 1948 until 1956Is this the date that Gill gives in Winifred Lamb? The DNB and Breaking Ground both say 1957.
Once we get this point cleared up, I think this is pretty much ready for promotion to GA. There's probably some more useful stuff in the chapter on her in Breaking Ground if you are interested in further expanding the article – if you don't have access, drop me an email and I'll get you a copy – but I don't think that you need that to bring the article up to GA standard. Caeciliusinhorto ( talk) 21:51, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, Gill says that she "felt able to resign as Honorary Secretary of the BIAA at the end of 1956" - so possibly resignation took effect from 1957 onwards and that's why the other two sources give that date? It's not entirely clear. I have a copy of Breaking Ground so will certainly check that for more info later on! Eritha ( talk) 10:46, 2 January 2020 (UTC)Eritha
Just to follow up - I've checked with Gill who has confirmed that her resignation was submitted in late 1956 and took effect in 1957, so the various sources are not actually in disagreement, but 1957 is the more correct date to give as the end of her period as hon. sec. Eritha ( talk) 17:32, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks again for all your work on the review! Eritha ( talk) 12:11, 4 January 2020 (UTC)