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Re: "There are very few scientific references to this article. One journal article with very few citations, and many many science 'news' websites. It this junk science? Pop-pysc?"

There is a paucity of academic literature about the subject; however, it does exist, and should be cited more heavily. The sources used here are very poor, and as a result, I have deemed this article in significant need of cleanup. At least three papers describing vulnerable and grandiose narcissism are mentioned here.

I will work on this article when I have more time. I also suggest that the article be renamed to either "Covert and overt Narcissism" or "Vulnerable and Grandiose Narcissism"

It is mentioned here that many times that BPD is associated with vulnerable narcissism, while NPD is associated with grandiose narcissism; at least one psychometric analysis indicates that NPD is characterized by vulnerability, while psychopathy is related to grandiose narcissism; this is not to say that NPD can't include grandiose narcissism, but rather, that there may be a co-morbidity.

comment added by User:SpiralSource ( talkcontribs) 8 Aug 2021


Why do the citations say this? Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

Thanks to whoever fixed the issue. By the way, I suggest someone make a Wikipedia page on Grandiose narcissism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M. Martinez 2020 ( talkcontribs) 14:30, 19 October 2020 (UTC) reply


' ... the opposite being "Grandiose Narcissism," which is characterized by self-confidence and feelings of fulfillment. '

Actual LOL. Most descriptions of narcissism involve unhappiness and emptiness. If Grandiose Narcissism is actually like this, sign me up! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.211.192 ( talk) 19:26, 27 December 2020 (UTC) reply



There are very few scientific references to this article. One journal article with very few citations, and many many science 'news' websites. It this junk science? Pop-pysc?

User:SpiralSource, per your recent edit summary query, there are indeed plenty of high-quality scientific references discussing this subject, for example: [1] -- Slhfbvladjhvb ( talk) 08:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Merged to Narcissistic Personality Disorder, New Section Create

A new section has been created on the NPD article to address this subject. See Narcissistic Personality Disorder#Subtype theories.

There are multiple sub-type theories and they are better discussed in context of NPD article. 97.99.90.245 ( talk) 16:46, 1 September 2021 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See: WP:Burden

Re: "There are very few scientific references to this article. One journal article with very few citations, and many many science 'news' websites. It this junk science? Pop-pysc?"

There is a paucity of academic literature about the subject; however, it does exist, and should be cited more heavily. The sources used here are very poor, and as a result, I have deemed this article in significant need of cleanup. At least three papers describing vulnerable and grandiose narcissism are mentioned here.

I will work on this article when I have more time. I also suggest that the article be renamed to either "Covert and overt Narcissism" or "Vulnerable and Grandiose Narcissism"

It is mentioned here that many times that BPD is associated with vulnerable narcissism, while NPD is associated with grandiose narcissism; at least one psychometric analysis indicates that NPD is characterized by vulnerability, while psychopathy is related to grandiose narcissism; this is not to say that NPD can't include grandiose narcissism, but rather, that there may be a co-morbidity.

comment added by User:SpiralSource ( talkcontribs) 8 Aug 2021


Why do the citations say this? Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

Thanks to whoever fixed the issue. By the way, I suggest someone make a Wikipedia page on Grandiose narcissism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M. Martinez 2020 ( talkcontribs) 14:30, 19 October 2020 (UTC) reply


' ... the opposite being "Grandiose Narcissism," which is characterized by self-confidence and feelings of fulfillment. '

Actual LOL. Most descriptions of narcissism involve unhappiness and emptiness. If Grandiose Narcissism is actually like this, sign me up! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.211.192 ( talk) 19:26, 27 December 2020 (UTC) reply



There are very few scientific references to this article. One journal article with very few citations, and many many science 'news' websites. It this junk science? Pop-pysc?

User:SpiralSource, per your recent edit summary query, there are indeed plenty of high-quality scientific references discussing this subject, for example: [1] -- Slhfbvladjhvb ( talk) 08:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Merged to Narcissistic Personality Disorder, New Section Create

A new section has been created on the NPD article to address this subject. See Narcissistic Personality Disorder#Subtype theories.

There are multiple sub-type theories and they are better discussed in context of NPD article. 97.99.90.245 ( talk) 16:46, 1 September 2021 (UTC) reply


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