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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.253.40.142 ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 25 February 2003
Please see Talk:ABDL as to why I feel this content is not appropriate. brenneman (t) (c) 12:08, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
(Unsigned edit by 24.222.204.78 ( talk • contribs • block • block log)) Does anyone know how often an event must occur to be considered urinary continence. Everyone says keep a diary. But what does the doctor look for from the diary? Go to urology on google for some excellent sources that can be referenced What about the use of a urethra support sling.. what are the benefits of that.. on younger women
The section in question needlessly repeats information stated earlier in the article, and the first two sub-headings are rather awkwardly phrased. Secondly, it reads like it was copied from a website with a much younger target audience. 70.68.181.169 10:36, 16 May 2006 UTC What about the option of a urethral support sling as a remedy option for younger women
There are no sources cited in this article. I'll begin to remove unsourced material over the next couple of days, a little at a time.
brenneman
{L} 12:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Article contains virtually nothing about male conditions, their causes, and treatment, which is par for the course. The article should probably be renamed Incontinence (Female) -- but on the other hand, knowing the incidental priority doctors give their male patients, there might never be an article about Incontinence (Male). 68.5.64.178 08:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
External links on Wikipedia are supposed to be "encyclopedic in nature" and useful to a worldwide audience. Please read the external links policy (and perhaps the specific rules for medicine-related articles) before adding more external links.
The following kinds of links are inappropriate:
I realize that some links are helpful to certain users, but they still do not comply with Wikipedia policy, and therefore must not be included in the article. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 06:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
The enuresis stub article was changed to a redirect to this page. I would appreciate input about whether or not this is correct. I have two questions:
1) Should the redirect point here? 2) If not, should it point to bedwetting or should it be a standalone page?
Here is the background. From my reading on the subject, there is some change occurring in the use of the term enuresis. Historically, the word has been used as:
The eMedicine definition is an example of this historical vagueness: "In North America, the term is used to refer to wetting by night or day, and nighttime wetting is referred to as nocturnal enuresis (NE)." Does this mean enuresis = incontinence?
There is a recent push to clarify the term, having it only apply to bedwetting. The ICCS has proposed a, "Standardization of Terminology for Lower Urinary Tract Function in Children and Adolescents." [1] The reporting committee defines enuresis as,
So, the current push is to clarify the usage of enuresis to be synonymous with betwetting.
I had intended to edit the enuresis stub to explain this, but it was changed to a redirect before I could add the information. My thought is to revert the change and add the explaination about the changing usage. Please share your input. Wshallwshall ( talk) 04:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I ask if this is reliable because (a) the reference links now lead to a redirect with no article. (b) the Japanese Wikipedia says the exact opposite. Look at the Use in Other Countries section of the Japanese diaper article (with babelfish, if necessary). It explains the popularity of disposable diapers in the West by heavy babies and very late toilet training. Can anyone find a better (preferable existing) source for these studies? Estemi ( talk) 19:31, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I think the Marshall-Marchetti-Krantz section of the article was copied and pasted from this site. The section should probably be rewritten or something unless that content is freely licensed. Just pointing that out, I have no knowledge of the subject and wouldn't be able to really rewrite it myself. 98.17.59.63 ( talk) 05:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
both the burch and sling procedure deserve their own articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.151.240.70 ( talk) 22:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Incontinence, a disambiguation page, had accumulated the following section which I deleted from that page. -- Una Smith ( talk) 22:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Incontinence is the lack of voluntary control of excretory functions; the term is a contraction of a complete expression, such as "incontinence of urine" or "incontinence of feces". Incontinence mostly occurs in adults but can also occur in teens. Incontinence is usually referred to in urine when leakage occurs that cannot be helped or stopped. There are two different types of urinary incontinence: stress and urge.
Incontinence of stress is when leakage occurs during laughter, sneezing, coughing, etc. Usually, those with stress incontinence do not recognize it as a medical condition. In most cases, stress incontinence is not dangerous and can often be treated through retraining of urethral muscles. Proper training of the pelvic floor muscles can occur through guidance by a Women's Health Physical Therapist.
Incontinence of urge, however, is when you feel the sudden need to urinate and cannot help but have an accident. This is caused by losing the first message sensation telling you that you need to urinate.
"Twice as common in girls as in boys?" Riiiiight... somehow I think that whoever put that there is making stuff up either trying to be funny or has a fetish for that kind of thing Enferloup ( talk) 23:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Should someone mention how some people piss their pants laughing, and the scientific basis behind that? Thanks. 24.57.64.246 ( talk) 19:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
The treatment section on urinary incontinence makes no mention of Physical Therapy. Studies have shown that physical therapy is as effective as medication in the treatment of urinary incontinence. Physical therapy can also help avoid unnecessary surgeries. Patients should ask their doctors about physical therapy treatment for incontinence, and consult with a PT who specializes in the treatment of incontinence. Soapsoap ( talk) 21:35, 15 September 2011 (UTC) s.
There's no mention of the Artificial Urinary Sphincter treatment either. The AMS800 model from American Medical Systems started to be developed in 1972, and around 90,000 of these devices were implanted in men and women all around the world. It has a very strong success rate from the reports of users. There is also another maker of a similar model in Switzerland. Marcusbacus ( talk) 19:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
It is hard to say who has copied from whom. If someone could look into the similarity we have with http://www.dignimed.com/incontinence-info/ that would be great Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 09:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
The content of this section requires considerable revision to make it i=useful to the consumer or healthcare professional. I have endeavoured to make those changes but they have all been reverted. This is unfortunate. I would be happy to assist the original author of this document to make it more accurate and useful. ( Farrsa ( talk) 19:49, 23 September 2012 (UTC))
I can't find the papers themselves, only references to them: [7]
In the mean time this paper talks about hypopressive exercises leading to increased surface area of levator ani in patients with urinary incontinence, who are thought to have decreased surface area of levator ani.
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help)tepi ( talk) 01:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Zad
68
01:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Maybe a useful source for editors of this page... [8] p = 0.05 ( talk) 19:34, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
This subject is (basically) being discussed elsewhere on this page, at least in terms of whether or not Enuresis and Urinary incontinence should be separate articles under the heading "Enuresis Redirect" [9]. Merging the articles would render the enuresis page a redirect, so the discussion applies, as far as I can tell. -- 173.88.113.201 ( talk) 01:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC) I have removed the merge tags for the following reasons:
Kind Regards, LT90001 ( talk) 00:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Wondering what others thoughts are on having the lead image be a random elderly women? It is an identifiable photo of someone who probably does not have the condition. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 01:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello editors, I am a medical student at Tel Aviv University who was assigned this article as part of a wikimed elective course. There appears to be a gender-imbalance in this article (toward female UI), as well as a lack of information (causes, mechanisms, etc.) and inconsistencies in reference formatting. Will try to address some of the more critical issues. Please reach out to me with comments/questions/concerns regarding my edits. Gomer2 ( talk) 17:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Good additions. One issue that you identified in the talk page was the imbalance in the article between treatment for women and men. One way to improve this maybe to group the different treatments accordingly so as to provide a clearer idea of the treatment options for the two groups. IntothesameImage ( talk) 09:01, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello Wiki!
We are 2nd year pharmacy students from UCSF and are working with faculty to make edits to this Wikipedia page over the next few weeks. Our plan for improving the article include the following:
Please let us know any comments/concerns/questions about our proposed changes! Cindytrac ( talk) 21:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
The edits made all have citations from wiki approved sources such as systematic reviews. Allydiiorio ( talk) 21:50, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Group 6c was able to complete a majority of their goals for this article. They expanded upon screening for urinary incontinence, medications and lifestyle changes. These edits help improve the overall understanding of urinary incontinence. Something to further include the article might be expanding on the medications used and in addition to the lifestyle changes section. Tnguyen26 ( talk) 20:50, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Apart from a bare passing mention of spinal cord injury as a cause, there is basically no discussion in this article of incontinence due to neurogenic bladder. It's a major topic in disability media. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 19:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Taking into account:
I suggest splitting that section into "Male" and "Female" (similar to the CAUSES section), and citing evidence in the "men" section only if the studies included men.
This may result in a very brief Male section, as of now, but ideally it would make it clear that more work is needed by an expert who knows about treatment for male urinary incontinence. Terrapinaz ( talk) 11:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.253.40.142 ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 25 February 2003
Please see Talk:ABDL as to why I feel this content is not appropriate. brenneman (t) (c) 12:08, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
(Unsigned edit by 24.222.204.78 ( talk • contribs • block • block log)) Does anyone know how often an event must occur to be considered urinary continence. Everyone says keep a diary. But what does the doctor look for from the diary? Go to urology on google for some excellent sources that can be referenced What about the use of a urethra support sling.. what are the benefits of that.. on younger women
The section in question needlessly repeats information stated earlier in the article, and the first two sub-headings are rather awkwardly phrased. Secondly, it reads like it was copied from a website with a much younger target audience. 70.68.181.169 10:36, 16 May 2006 UTC What about the option of a urethral support sling as a remedy option for younger women
There are no sources cited in this article. I'll begin to remove unsourced material over the next couple of days, a little at a time.
brenneman
{L} 12:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Article contains virtually nothing about male conditions, their causes, and treatment, which is par for the course. The article should probably be renamed Incontinence (Female) -- but on the other hand, knowing the incidental priority doctors give their male patients, there might never be an article about Incontinence (Male). 68.5.64.178 08:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
External links on Wikipedia are supposed to be "encyclopedic in nature" and useful to a worldwide audience. Please read the external links policy (and perhaps the specific rules for medicine-related articles) before adding more external links.
The following kinds of links are inappropriate:
I realize that some links are helpful to certain users, but they still do not comply with Wikipedia policy, and therefore must not be included in the article. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 06:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
The enuresis stub article was changed to a redirect to this page. I would appreciate input about whether or not this is correct. I have two questions:
1) Should the redirect point here? 2) If not, should it point to bedwetting or should it be a standalone page?
Here is the background. From my reading on the subject, there is some change occurring in the use of the term enuresis. Historically, the word has been used as:
The eMedicine definition is an example of this historical vagueness: "In North America, the term is used to refer to wetting by night or day, and nighttime wetting is referred to as nocturnal enuresis (NE)." Does this mean enuresis = incontinence?
There is a recent push to clarify the term, having it only apply to bedwetting. The ICCS has proposed a, "Standardization of Terminology for Lower Urinary Tract Function in Children and Adolescents." [1] The reporting committee defines enuresis as,
So, the current push is to clarify the usage of enuresis to be synonymous with betwetting.
I had intended to edit the enuresis stub to explain this, but it was changed to a redirect before I could add the information. My thought is to revert the change and add the explaination about the changing usage. Please share your input. Wshallwshall ( talk) 04:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I ask if this is reliable because (a) the reference links now lead to a redirect with no article. (b) the Japanese Wikipedia says the exact opposite. Look at the Use in Other Countries section of the Japanese diaper article (with babelfish, if necessary). It explains the popularity of disposable diapers in the West by heavy babies and very late toilet training. Can anyone find a better (preferable existing) source for these studies? Estemi ( talk) 19:31, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I think the Marshall-Marchetti-Krantz section of the article was copied and pasted from this site. The section should probably be rewritten or something unless that content is freely licensed. Just pointing that out, I have no knowledge of the subject and wouldn't be able to really rewrite it myself. 98.17.59.63 ( talk) 05:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
both the burch and sling procedure deserve their own articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.151.240.70 ( talk) 22:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Incontinence, a disambiguation page, had accumulated the following section which I deleted from that page. -- Una Smith ( talk) 22:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Incontinence is the lack of voluntary control of excretory functions; the term is a contraction of a complete expression, such as "incontinence of urine" or "incontinence of feces". Incontinence mostly occurs in adults but can also occur in teens. Incontinence is usually referred to in urine when leakage occurs that cannot be helped or stopped. There are two different types of urinary incontinence: stress and urge.
Incontinence of stress is when leakage occurs during laughter, sneezing, coughing, etc. Usually, those with stress incontinence do not recognize it as a medical condition. In most cases, stress incontinence is not dangerous and can often be treated through retraining of urethral muscles. Proper training of the pelvic floor muscles can occur through guidance by a Women's Health Physical Therapist.
Incontinence of urge, however, is when you feel the sudden need to urinate and cannot help but have an accident. This is caused by losing the first message sensation telling you that you need to urinate.
"Twice as common in girls as in boys?" Riiiiight... somehow I think that whoever put that there is making stuff up either trying to be funny or has a fetish for that kind of thing Enferloup ( talk) 23:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Should someone mention how some people piss their pants laughing, and the scientific basis behind that? Thanks. 24.57.64.246 ( talk) 19:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
The treatment section on urinary incontinence makes no mention of Physical Therapy. Studies have shown that physical therapy is as effective as medication in the treatment of urinary incontinence. Physical therapy can also help avoid unnecessary surgeries. Patients should ask their doctors about physical therapy treatment for incontinence, and consult with a PT who specializes in the treatment of incontinence. Soapsoap ( talk) 21:35, 15 September 2011 (UTC) s.
There's no mention of the Artificial Urinary Sphincter treatment either. The AMS800 model from American Medical Systems started to be developed in 1972, and around 90,000 of these devices were implanted in men and women all around the world. It has a very strong success rate from the reports of users. There is also another maker of a similar model in Switzerland. Marcusbacus ( talk) 19:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
It is hard to say who has copied from whom. If someone could look into the similarity we have with http://www.dignimed.com/incontinence-info/ that would be great Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 09:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
The content of this section requires considerable revision to make it i=useful to the consumer or healthcare professional. I have endeavoured to make those changes but they have all been reverted. This is unfortunate. I would be happy to assist the original author of this document to make it more accurate and useful. ( Farrsa ( talk) 19:49, 23 September 2012 (UTC))
I can't find the papers themselves, only references to them: [7]
In the mean time this paper talks about hypopressive exercises leading to increased surface area of levator ani in patients with urinary incontinence, who are thought to have decreased surface area of levator ani.
{{
cite journal}}
: Unknown parameter |coauthors=
ignored (|author=
suggested) (
help)tepi ( talk) 01:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Zad
68
01:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Maybe a useful source for editors of this page... [8] p = 0.05 ( talk) 19:34, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
This subject is (basically) being discussed elsewhere on this page, at least in terms of whether or not Enuresis and Urinary incontinence should be separate articles under the heading "Enuresis Redirect" [9]. Merging the articles would render the enuresis page a redirect, so the discussion applies, as far as I can tell. -- 173.88.113.201 ( talk) 01:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC) I have removed the merge tags for the following reasons:
Kind Regards, LT90001 ( talk) 00:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Wondering what others thoughts are on having the lead image be a random elderly women? It is an identifiable photo of someone who probably does not have the condition. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 01:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Hello editors, I am a medical student at Tel Aviv University who was assigned this article as part of a wikimed elective course. There appears to be a gender-imbalance in this article (toward female UI), as well as a lack of information (causes, mechanisms, etc.) and inconsistencies in reference formatting. Will try to address some of the more critical issues. Please reach out to me with comments/questions/concerns regarding my edits. Gomer2 ( talk) 17:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Good additions. One issue that you identified in the talk page was the imbalance in the article between treatment for women and men. One way to improve this maybe to group the different treatments accordingly so as to provide a clearer idea of the treatment options for the two groups. IntothesameImage ( talk) 09:01, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello Wiki!
We are 2nd year pharmacy students from UCSF and are working with faculty to make edits to this Wikipedia page over the next few weeks. Our plan for improving the article include the following:
Please let us know any comments/concerns/questions about our proposed changes! Cindytrac ( talk) 21:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
The edits made all have citations from wiki approved sources such as systematic reviews. Allydiiorio ( talk) 21:50, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Group 6c was able to complete a majority of their goals for this article. They expanded upon screening for urinary incontinence, medications and lifestyle changes. These edits help improve the overall understanding of urinary incontinence. Something to further include the article might be expanding on the medications used and in addition to the lifestyle changes section. Tnguyen26 ( talk) 20:50, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Apart from a bare passing mention of spinal cord injury as a cause, there is basically no discussion in this article of incontinence due to neurogenic bladder. It's a major topic in disability media. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 19:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Taking into account:
I suggest splitting that section into "Male" and "Female" (similar to the CAUSES section), and citing evidence in the "men" section only if the studies included men.
This may result in a very brief Male section, as of now, but ideally it would make it clear that more work is needed by an expert who knows about treatment for male urinary incontinence. Terrapinaz ( talk) 11:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)