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Also the congressional investigation into Robert Gallo's fraudulant claim to have isolated HIV using Luc Montagniers HIV cultures are not mentioned at all. It should be mentioned here. Senator Dingell's Wikilink can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dingell
And this article in the New Scientist should also be mentioned: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.237.191.141 ( talk) 11:33, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14881-comment-was-robert-gallo-robbed-of-the-nobel-prize.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.237.191.141 ( talk) 11:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me, could someone explain me why this BMJ article is not used?:
Gallo guilty of AIDS misconduct
Gallo has not been found guilty of misconduct. His co-author Mikulas Popovic was found guilty of misconduct by the Office of Research Integrity at the US Public Health Service. But this was overturned on appeal with the finding that, "“One might anticipate that from all the evidence, after all the sound and fury, there would be at least a residue of palpable wrongdoing. This is not the case.” This surely exonerates Gallo as well as Popovic. There is no known finding of wrongdoing against Gallo. If my memory is correct, the wiki article used to imply that there was such a finding but it has since been corrected. Nathangeffen ( talk) 15:03, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unheimlich ( talk • contribs) 09:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Reading the article, I noticed that it did not quite match what I had heard ca. 25 years ago when AIDS Groups all over the world had eductaed teachers. The understanding, then, was that an unknown, highly contagious and aggressive disease caused Kaposi sarcoma and deadly lung and brain infections, accompanied by wasting diarrheas and that the new disease had been the reason for dr. Gallo's and Dr. Montagnier's research and research grants. The way WIKI explains the chronology, one almost gets the impression as though Dr. Gallo had been investigating retroviruses all along and that the interest in the new disease consequently followed. One should also make clear that there was no disease, AIDS, from the start but that this acronym was developed and accepted after isolation of HTLV and HIV andf after a preliminary term, AIDS Related Complex. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.41.156.8 ( talk) 19:00, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Please help me become a better Wikipedia editor. I changed this paragraph:
to this:
I changed neither the references nor the Wiki markups (not included here). I described my edit, "improve Chang paper description." RetroS1mone Undid my edit because, "tour de force, flagship et cetera not encyclopedic."
I submit my edit provides a more accurate and comprehensive description of Chang's study. Since the study is quite a significant part of the US government's investigations of Gallo, Popovic, and the LTCB, an accurate and comprehensive description of it, I would have thought, should have been welcomed. Instead, RetroS1mone rejected it as, "...not encyclopedic." I agree the 2 cited expressions may be inappropriate; but only because their contexts were not documented/referenced. However, I disagree my edit should be rejected solely because of 2 expressions. Why didn't RetroS1mone merely edit the 2 expressions, for instance? Perhaps because of other objections - implied by, "et cetera?" What other objections does RetroS1mone have? Anyone else have any criticisms and/or help? RspnsblMn talk 19:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Re: "They are original research ... inconsistent et cetera." OK. Politely pointing to contradictions and discrepancies in Gallo's contamination-of-the-pool explanation for HTLV-IIIB being LAV-Lai is no substitute for documenting them explicitly as well as documenting many investigators' conclusion the pool was fabricated in a cover-up (in large part based on Chang's study).
Re: "It is to[o] much detail ... deti[/]als of them." I thought I was editing a subsection of "Retrovirus work" entitled, "HIV/AIDS research and subsequent controversy." The heart of the controversy is whether Gallo's LTCB accidentally or deliberately misappropriated a virus isolate provided to the LTCB by the Institut Pasteur. For years, Gallo denied LTCB had cultured the gift virus. Also, I provided the minimal details required for correct explication of the issues. The previous description was quite inaccurate. I could have described the significance of the env gene sequence variations (as opposed to other genes) among these isolates documented by Chang.
Re: "Sorry[,] but you also have a history..." Incorrect. I have made a handful of edits here. Not one was deleted legitimately. Even in this present case, you can't show my improved description of Chang's paper is inaccurate or that it didn't correct an inaccurate description. Moreover, if you were familiar with the controversy's documentation, you would have improved my edit rather than failing to AGF and deleting it.
What do you think of the following:
? RspnsblMn talk 15:38, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
This is obviously a tricky page to get right, since Gallo has been a tremendously controversial but major figure in HIV studies. So I apologize for generalizing so thoroughly in the introduction to the piece, but crediting Gallo upfront for co-discovery of HIV without caveat seems to put forth a falsely facile answer to a problematic question, as the rest of the article makes clear. We can say without controversy, however, that he is best known for his work on HIV. I hope that will suffice. If someone would still prefer to credit him with co-discovery in the intro again, it would be more consistent with the rest of the article to mention the controversy in the same line. Londonbroil ( talk) 15:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I've made some changes to what I felt was rapidly becoming an attack piece. It's important to remember that this article is a biography of a living person, not a forum for airing dropped accusations and not a showcase for Crewdson's various stories. The article should note the historical controversy without dwelling too closely on minor details like the Dingell report and quotes selected for maximum smear effect. Keepcalmandcarryon ( talk) 19:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
After reading Randy Shilts' book when it was published and just now getting around to reading John Crewdson's, I'm glad to see this article is well-written with clear chronology, revealing many aspects of the controversies. Excellent work, Wiki editors. Bravo. Skywriter ( talk) 03:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2008 was divided, one half awarded to Harald zur Hausen "for his discovery of human papilloma viruses causing cervical cancer",the other half jointly to Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier "for their discovery of human immunodeficiency virus". http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2008/ User:apl1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.56.61.193 ( talk) 21:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
I changed "discovery" to "reputed discovery" in the first paragraph because, while Gallo got the Lasker Award, the 2008 Nobel went to the Pasteur team, with no mention of Gallo, His work is clouded by controversy, which is not yet resolved. Can we say this more diplomatically? Without lying? Donfbreed ( talk) 03:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Apparently, there is an extensive WP discussion of this matter, which I don't understand fully. I'm not a lawyer. Perhaps someone who does should settle this. If I'm wrong, you can revert my change. Donfbreed ( talk) 03:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
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This entry claims that Gallo and his team "demonstrated that the virus causes AIDS". There is no indication or scientific proof that this is the case. I suggest that in order to make such a claim you would at least need to provide a footnote to a credible source supporting this information. I am not aware of such a source. So please 1) delete this claim, or 2) provide a credible source which supports the statement that Gallo's team "demonstrated that the virus causes AIDS". Please be loyal to the spirit of Wikipedia! Peikang ( talk) 17:20, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
"The [Federal Office of Research Integrity] report said Dr. Gallo intentionally misled scientific colleagues by saying he had grown an AIDS virus in his laboratory for study and he had not grown or studied a similar French strain of the virus. In fact, Dr. Gallo himself had grown the French virus and used it in furthering his own research, the report said." "After three years of investigations, the Federal Office of Research Integrity today found that Dr. Robert C. Gallo, the American co-discoverer of the cause of AIDS, had committed scientific misconduct. The investigators said he had "falsely reported" a critical fact in the scientific paper of 1984 in which he described isolating the virus that causes AIDS." "The new report said Dr. Gallo had intentionally misled colleagues to gain credit for himself and diminish credit due to his French competitors. The report also said that his false statement had "impeded potential AIDS research progress" by diverting scientists from potentially fruitful work with the French researchers." And: "In addition, the report found that Dr. Gallo warranted censure on these four other counts: Referring to his role as a referee for a different article submitted to a journal by his French competitors, in which he altered several lines to favor his own hypothesis about the AIDS virus, the report said the revisions were "gratuitous, self-serving and improper." As to the many errors in the 1984 paper, which was co-authored with Dr. Popovic, the report concluded, "In light of his role as senior author, Dr. Gallo must bear substantial responsibility for the numerous discrepancies, including four instances of scientific misconduct attributed to Dr. Popovic." On the standards of Dr. Gallo's laboratory record-keeping, the report said, "Especially in the light of the ground-breaking nature of this research and its profound public health implications, O.R.I. believes that the careless and unacceptable keeping of research records reflects irresponsible laboratory management that has permanently impaired the ability to trace the important steps taken." Dr. Gallo, the report said, also failed to determine in a timely way the exact origin of some of the crucial cells in which he grew the finicky virus. Like the viruses themselves, the cells were also found to have been borrowed from another scientist without giving him due credit in the paper. Later Dr. Gallo also refused to share the cells freely with other scientists trying to duplicate the important work, the report said." -=-=- Again, this report, as I understand it was withdrawn, but it is clear to me that NOT all of these findings are therefore not based on fact. Here's one take on the withdrawal: Chicago Tribune- After two years of perusing laboratory notebooks and interviewing Gallo and several of his assistants, NIH investigators uncovered 20 "discrepancies" between assertions in the Science article and the data on which it was based. Some of the discrepancies, several of which were first brought to light in a 1989 Tribune article on the history of the discovery of the AIDS virus, were ascribed by NIH to honest error. Some were attributed to "poor judgment" or a "lack of scientific rigor." Others were deemed deliberate falsifications, ultimately including Gallo's assertion in the Science article that the French virus "has not yet been transmitted to a permanently growing cell line for true isolation." -=-=- But based on new guidelines that require "ORI must prove deliberate intent to deceive" on the part of someone held responsible for a false statement in a research publication, that the false statement "have a material or significant effect on the research conclusions of the paper, and that there be no possibility of honest error." " No possibility of honest error??! Well, ok. If record keeping was so poor (we're talking about a GOVERNMENT LAB paid for with your and my tax dollars) then it follows that "deliberate intent with no possibility of human error" would require what? NSA surveilance audio-video? Mind reading? This seems to be a ridiculously high standard. Higher even than "beyond reasonable doubt", and we execute people using that...Anyway, it is what it is. Perhaps something should be said without getting too specific about a negative report being issued and then retracted based on its findings not being held to a sufficiently high standard? That seems to fit the bill, or does wikipedia remove any mention of guilty verdicts if its overturned on appeal? Seems like the wrong way to do history. -=-=- The NYT article goes on to state:"A panel of consultants from the National Academy of Sciences concluded last year that Gallo's failure to freely distribute the cells was "essentially immoral in view of the growing seriousness of the AIDS epidemic." I think this is important and seems to be independent of the ORI finding (or lack there-of). Abitslow ( talk) 08:20, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Recent edits have given an accusatory tone to the piece and introduce original synthesis. The lead now reduces Gallo's indisputably central role in the discovery of HIV as the cause of AIDS to dubious "claims", while the investigation into allegations against Gallo's lab is presented in the ugliest light possible, based on original research. I will revert these edits shortly and invite the editor who introduced them to discuss proposed changes on the talk page per WP:BRD. While we encourage "balance" and a proper "historical" view, we need to use sources appropriately and in keeping with WP:BLP. Keepcalmandcarryon ( talk) 17:50, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Dear Keepcalmandcarryon ( talk), The overriding issue with the version of Robert Gallo's wikipage prior to my edits is that it is quite one-sided in favor of Dr. Gallo, placing the majority of events in a positive light for Dr. Gallo when in fact he was found guilty of scientific misconduct (later vacated on appeal) for co-opting the French Pasteur Lab's LAV sample into his own, which led to him claiming credit for the discovery of HIV and later the HIV test, both of which were based on the French LAV sample. Notwithstanding HHS vacating the misconduct determination due to a change in the definition and application, this misappropriation was proven in later years when the French successfully obtained additional royalties from the HIV test following two genetic determinations (Pasteur and NIH) that found Gallo's HLTV-3B to be identical to the French LAV. Furthermore, the NIH analysis casts doubt to the claim that this was a result of contamination because it openly questioned whether Gallo's HLTV-3B ever existed at all. As a result, the wikipage should document Gallo's "controversial" role in the identification of HIV and the subsequent HIV test. The wikipage, as it stands now without my edits, does not even mention that he was found guilty of scientific misconduct (only says "cleared of all wrongdoing"), his misappropriation of the French LAV sample for both the initial HIV discovery and the later HIV test, or Gallo's other tactics that were documented in the HHS rebuke of his methods during this period. -- Gtagg ( talk) 21:03, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate your concerns but these phrases (see below) are either off topic (coatrack) or unneeded detail for the lead which is supposed to be a brief summary. They could be removed or moved to the body of the article without detracting from the subject's achievements IMO.
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Please, add reference to key players in the discovery of chemokines as HIV inhibitors, who are not mentioned in the existing version, delete inaccurate statement ("halt the progression of AIDS") since no demonstration was reported, and add/modify missing/incorrect references:
Original text: In 1995, Gallo published his discovery that chemokines, a class of naturally occurring compounds, can block HIV and halt the progression of AIDS. This was heralded by Science magazine as one of the top scientific breakthroughs within the same year of his publication.[17]
Proposed revision: In 1995, Gallo with his colleagues Paolo Lusso and Fiorenza Cocchi published their discovery that chemokines, a class of naturally occurring compounds, are potent and specific HIV inhibitors. [1] This discovery was heralded by Science magazine as one of the top scientific breakthroughs-of-the-year.[ [2]] PLwiki 19:53, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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Please correct name of Dr. Salahuddin and correct erroneous reference:
Original text: In 1986, Gallo, Dharam Ablashi, and Saira Salahuddin discovered Human herpesvirus 6 (HHV-6),[16] later found to cause Roseola, an infantile disease.
Proposed revision: In 1986, Gallo, Dharam Ablashi, and Syed Zaki Salahuddin discovered human herpesvirus 6 (HHV-6),[ [1]] later found to cause Roseola infantum, an infantile disease. PLwiki 20:05, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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The link for the first citation is currently defunct - please change it to a wayback machine link to the 2015 site*, or find another source with the same information.
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Dr. Luc Montagnier discovered the AIDS virus NOT Gallo
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Robert Gallo had no role in the discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) as the infectious agent responsible for acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS). The two French French virologists Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier discovered this and sent their findings to Gallo who took their results and claimed them as his own. When he finally met with the French virologists, they agreed to share credit because Gallo was a better-known virologist. But the two French virologists won the Nobel prize. Gallo was not included since he stole their research. He DID, however, develop the HIV blood test. So I’m suggesting that you please remove part of the second sentence in the first paragraph that gives him credit for discovering HIV.
It looks like you have the correct information in the body of the document so I don’t think anything else needs to be changed. Thank you very much. Dreemsnake ( talk) 15:32, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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In December of 1992, after three years of investigation, the Federal Office of Research Integrity found Robert C. Gallo committed scientific misconduct. The investigators said he had "falsely reported" a critical fact in the scientific paper of 1984 in which he described isolating the virus that causes AIDS. 66.41.212.46 ( talk) 00:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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Also the congressional investigation into Robert Gallo's fraudulant claim to have isolated HIV using Luc Montagniers HIV cultures are not mentioned at all. It should be mentioned here. Senator Dingell's Wikilink can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dingell
And this article in the New Scientist should also be mentioned: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.237.191.141 ( talk) 11:33, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14881-comment-was-robert-gallo-robbed-of-the-nobel-prize.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.237.191.141 ( talk) 11:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me, could someone explain me why this BMJ article is not used?:
Gallo guilty of AIDS misconduct
Gallo has not been found guilty of misconduct. His co-author Mikulas Popovic was found guilty of misconduct by the Office of Research Integrity at the US Public Health Service. But this was overturned on appeal with the finding that, "“One might anticipate that from all the evidence, after all the sound and fury, there would be at least a residue of palpable wrongdoing. This is not the case.” This surely exonerates Gallo as well as Popovic. There is no known finding of wrongdoing against Gallo. If my memory is correct, the wiki article used to imply that there was such a finding but it has since been corrected. Nathangeffen ( talk) 15:03, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unheimlich ( talk • contribs) 09:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Reading the article, I noticed that it did not quite match what I had heard ca. 25 years ago when AIDS Groups all over the world had eductaed teachers. The understanding, then, was that an unknown, highly contagious and aggressive disease caused Kaposi sarcoma and deadly lung and brain infections, accompanied by wasting diarrheas and that the new disease had been the reason for dr. Gallo's and Dr. Montagnier's research and research grants. The way WIKI explains the chronology, one almost gets the impression as though Dr. Gallo had been investigating retroviruses all along and that the interest in the new disease consequently followed. One should also make clear that there was no disease, AIDS, from the start but that this acronym was developed and accepted after isolation of HTLV and HIV andf after a preliminary term, AIDS Related Complex. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.41.156.8 ( talk) 19:00, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Please help me become a better Wikipedia editor. I changed this paragraph:
to this:
I changed neither the references nor the Wiki markups (not included here). I described my edit, "improve Chang paper description." RetroS1mone Undid my edit because, "tour de force, flagship et cetera not encyclopedic."
I submit my edit provides a more accurate and comprehensive description of Chang's study. Since the study is quite a significant part of the US government's investigations of Gallo, Popovic, and the LTCB, an accurate and comprehensive description of it, I would have thought, should have been welcomed. Instead, RetroS1mone rejected it as, "...not encyclopedic." I agree the 2 cited expressions may be inappropriate; but only because their contexts were not documented/referenced. However, I disagree my edit should be rejected solely because of 2 expressions. Why didn't RetroS1mone merely edit the 2 expressions, for instance? Perhaps because of other objections - implied by, "et cetera?" What other objections does RetroS1mone have? Anyone else have any criticisms and/or help? RspnsblMn talk 19:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Re: "They are original research ... inconsistent et cetera." OK. Politely pointing to contradictions and discrepancies in Gallo's contamination-of-the-pool explanation for HTLV-IIIB being LAV-Lai is no substitute for documenting them explicitly as well as documenting many investigators' conclusion the pool was fabricated in a cover-up (in large part based on Chang's study).
Re: "It is to[o] much detail ... deti[/]als of them." I thought I was editing a subsection of "Retrovirus work" entitled, "HIV/AIDS research and subsequent controversy." The heart of the controversy is whether Gallo's LTCB accidentally or deliberately misappropriated a virus isolate provided to the LTCB by the Institut Pasteur. For years, Gallo denied LTCB had cultured the gift virus. Also, I provided the minimal details required for correct explication of the issues. The previous description was quite inaccurate. I could have described the significance of the env gene sequence variations (as opposed to other genes) among these isolates documented by Chang.
Re: "Sorry[,] but you also have a history..." Incorrect. I have made a handful of edits here. Not one was deleted legitimately. Even in this present case, you can't show my improved description of Chang's paper is inaccurate or that it didn't correct an inaccurate description. Moreover, if you were familiar with the controversy's documentation, you would have improved my edit rather than failing to AGF and deleting it.
What do you think of the following:
? RspnsblMn talk 15:38, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
This is obviously a tricky page to get right, since Gallo has been a tremendously controversial but major figure in HIV studies. So I apologize for generalizing so thoroughly in the introduction to the piece, but crediting Gallo upfront for co-discovery of HIV without caveat seems to put forth a falsely facile answer to a problematic question, as the rest of the article makes clear. We can say without controversy, however, that he is best known for his work on HIV. I hope that will suffice. If someone would still prefer to credit him with co-discovery in the intro again, it would be more consistent with the rest of the article to mention the controversy in the same line. Londonbroil ( talk) 15:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
I've made some changes to what I felt was rapidly becoming an attack piece. It's important to remember that this article is a biography of a living person, not a forum for airing dropped accusations and not a showcase for Crewdson's various stories. The article should note the historical controversy without dwelling too closely on minor details like the Dingell report and quotes selected for maximum smear effect. Keepcalmandcarryon ( talk) 19:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
After reading Randy Shilts' book when it was published and just now getting around to reading John Crewdson's, I'm glad to see this article is well-written with clear chronology, revealing many aspects of the controversies. Excellent work, Wiki editors. Bravo. Skywriter ( talk) 03:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2008 was divided, one half awarded to Harald zur Hausen "for his discovery of human papilloma viruses causing cervical cancer",the other half jointly to Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier "for their discovery of human immunodeficiency virus". http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2008/ User:apl1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.56.61.193 ( talk) 21:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
I changed "discovery" to "reputed discovery" in the first paragraph because, while Gallo got the Lasker Award, the 2008 Nobel went to the Pasteur team, with no mention of Gallo, His work is clouded by controversy, which is not yet resolved. Can we say this more diplomatically? Without lying? Donfbreed ( talk) 03:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Apparently, there is an extensive WP discussion of this matter, which I don't understand fully. I'm not a lawyer. Perhaps someone who does should settle this. If I'm wrong, you can revert my change. Donfbreed ( talk) 03:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
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This entry claims that Gallo and his team "demonstrated that the virus causes AIDS". There is no indication or scientific proof that this is the case. I suggest that in order to make such a claim you would at least need to provide a footnote to a credible source supporting this information. I am not aware of such a source. So please 1) delete this claim, or 2) provide a credible source which supports the statement that Gallo's team "demonstrated that the virus causes AIDS". Please be loyal to the spirit of Wikipedia! Peikang ( talk) 17:20, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
"The [Federal Office of Research Integrity] report said Dr. Gallo intentionally misled scientific colleagues by saying he had grown an AIDS virus in his laboratory for study and he had not grown or studied a similar French strain of the virus. In fact, Dr. Gallo himself had grown the French virus and used it in furthering his own research, the report said." "After three years of investigations, the Federal Office of Research Integrity today found that Dr. Robert C. Gallo, the American co-discoverer of the cause of AIDS, had committed scientific misconduct. The investigators said he had "falsely reported" a critical fact in the scientific paper of 1984 in which he described isolating the virus that causes AIDS." "The new report said Dr. Gallo had intentionally misled colleagues to gain credit for himself and diminish credit due to his French competitors. The report also said that his false statement had "impeded potential AIDS research progress" by diverting scientists from potentially fruitful work with the French researchers." And: "In addition, the report found that Dr. Gallo warranted censure on these four other counts: Referring to his role as a referee for a different article submitted to a journal by his French competitors, in which he altered several lines to favor his own hypothesis about the AIDS virus, the report said the revisions were "gratuitous, self-serving and improper." As to the many errors in the 1984 paper, which was co-authored with Dr. Popovic, the report concluded, "In light of his role as senior author, Dr. Gallo must bear substantial responsibility for the numerous discrepancies, including four instances of scientific misconduct attributed to Dr. Popovic." On the standards of Dr. Gallo's laboratory record-keeping, the report said, "Especially in the light of the ground-breaking nature of this research and its profound public health implications, O.R.I. believes that the careless and unacceptable keeping of research records reflects irresponsible laboratory management that has permanently impaired the ability to trace the important steps taken." Dr. Gallo, the report said, also failed to determine in a timely way the exact origin of some of the crucial cells in which he grew the finicky virus. Like the viruses themselves, the cells were also found to have been borrowed from another scientist without giving him due credit in the paper. Later Dr. Gallo also refused to share the cells freely with other scientists trying to duplicate the important work, the report said." -=-=- Again, this report, as I understand it was withdrawn, but it is clear to me that NOT all of these findings are therefore not based on fact. Here's one take on the withdrawal: Chicago Tribune- After two years of perusing laboratory notebooks and interviewing Gallo and several of his assistants, NIH investigators uncovered 20 "discrepancies" between assertions in the Science article and the data on which it was based. Some of the discrepancies, several of which were first brought to light in a 1989 Tribune article on the history of the discovery of the AIDS virus, were ascribed by NIH to honest error. Some were attributed to "poor judgment" or a "lack of scientific rigor." Others were deemed deliberate falsifications, ultimately including Gallo's assertion in the Science article that the French virus "has not yet been transmitted to a permanently growing cell line for true isolation." -=-=- But based on new guidelines that require "ORI must prove deliberate intent to deceive" on the part of someone held responsible for a false statement in a research publication, that the false statement "have a material or significant effect on the research conclusions of the paper, and that there be no possibility of honest error." " No possibility of honest error??! Well, ok. If record keeping was so poor (we're talking about a GOVERNMENT LAB paid for with your and my tax dollars) then it follows that "deliberate intent with no possibility of human error" would require what? NSA surveilance audio-video? Mind reading? This seems to be a ridiculously high standard. Higher even than "beyond reasonable doubt", and we execute people using that...Anyway, it is what it is. Perhaps something should be said without getting too specific about a negative report being issued and then retracted based on its findings not being held to a sufficiently high standard? That seems to fit the bill, or does wikipedia remove any mention of guilty verdicts if its overturned on appeal? Seems like the wrong way to do history. -=-=- The NYT article goes on to state:"A panel of consultants from the National Academy of Sciences concluded last year that Gallo's failure to freely distribute the cells was "essentially immoral in view of the growing seriousness of the AIDS epidemic." I think this is important and seems to be independent of the ORI finding (or lack there-of). Abitslow ( talk) 08:20, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Recent edits have given an accusatory tone to the piece and introduce original synthesis. The lead now reduces Gallo's indisputably central role in the discovery of HIV as the cause of AIDS to dubious "claims", while the investigation into allegations against Gallo's lab is presented in the ugliest light possible, based on original research. I will revert these edits shortly and invite the editor who introduced them to discuss proposed changes on the talk page per WP:BRD. While we encourage "balance" and a proper "historical" view, we need to use sources appropriately and in keeping with WP:BLP. Keepcalmandcarryon ( talk) 17:50, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Dear Keepcalmandcarryon ( talk), The overriding issue with the version of Robert Gallo's wikipage prior to my edits is that it is quite one-sided in favor of Dr. Gallo, placing the majority of events in a positive light for Dr. Gallo when in fact he was found guilty of scientific misconduct (later vacated on appeal) for co-opting the French Pasteur Lab's LAV sample into his own, which led to him claiming credit for the discovery of HIV and later the HIV test, both of which were based on the French LAV sample. Notwithstanding HHS vacating the misconduct determination due to a change in the definition and application, this misappropriation was proven in later years when the French successfully obtained additional royalties from the HIV test following two genetic determinations (Pasteur and NIH) that found Gallo's HLTV-3B to be identical to the French LAV. Furthermore, the NIH analysis casts doubt to the claim that this was a result of contamination because it openly questioned whether Gallo's HLTV-3B ever existed at all. As a result, the wikipage should document Gallo's "controversial" role in the identification of HIV and the subsequent HIV test. The wikipage, as it stands now without my edits, does not even mention that he was found guilty of scientific misconduct (only says "cleared of all wrongdoing"), his misappropriation of the French LAV sample for both the initial HIV discovery and the later HIV test, or Gallo's other tactics that were documented in the HHS rebuke of his methods during this period. -- Gtagg ( talk) 21:03, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate your concerns but these phrases (see below) are either off topic (coatrack) or unneeded detail for the lead which is supposed to be a brief summary. They could be removed or moved to the body of the article without detracting from the subject's achievements IMO.
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Please, add reference to key players in the discovery of chemokines as HIV inhibitors, who are not mentioned in the existing version, delete inaccurate statement ("halt the progression of AIDS") since no demonstration was reported, and add/modify missing/incorrect references:
Original text: In 1995, Gallo published his discovery that chemokines, a class of naturally occurring compounds, can block HIV and halt the progression of AIDS. This was heralded by Science magazine as one of the top scientific breakthroughs within the same year of his publication.[17]
Proposed revision: In 1995, Gallo with his colleagues Paolo Lusso and Fiorenza Cocchi published their discovery that chemokines, a class of naturally occurring compounds, are potent and specific HIV inhibitors. [1] This discovery was heralded by Science magazine as one of the top scientific breakthroughs-of-the-year.[ [2]] PLwiki 19:53, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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Please correct name of Dr. Salahuddin and correct erroneous reference:
Original text: In 1986, Gallo, Dharam Ablashi, and Saira Salahuddin discovered Human herpesvirus 6 (HHV-6),[16] later found to cause Roseola, an infantile disease.
Proposed revision: In 1986, Gallo, Dharam Ablashi, and Syed Zaki Salahuddin discovered human herpesvirus 6 (HHV-6),[ [1]] later found to cause Roseola infantum, an infantile disease. PLwiki 20:05, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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The link for the first citation is currently defunct - please change it to a wayback machine link to the 2015 site*, or find another source with the same information.
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2601:14D:8701:5880:7DE1:4AC1:CC00:E1C3 ( talk) 16:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Dr. Luc Montagnier discovered the AIDS virus NOT Gallo
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Robert Gallo had no role in the discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) as the infectious agent responsible for acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS). The two French French virologists Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier discovered this and sent their findings to Gallo who took their results and claimed them as his own. When he finally met with the French virologists, they agreed to share credit because Gallo was a better-known virologist. But the two French virologists won the Nobel prize. Gallo was not included since he stole their research. He DID, however, develop the HIV blood test. So I’m suggesting that you please remove part of the second sentence in the first paragraph that gives him credit for discovering HIV.
It looks like you have the correct information in the body of the document so I don’t think anything else needs to be changed. Thank you very much. Dreemsnake ( talk) 15:32, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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In December of 1992, after three years of investigation, the Federal Office of Research Integrity found Robert C. Gallo committed scientific misconduct. The investigators said he had "falsely reported" a critical fact in the scientific paper of 1984 in which he described isolating the virus that causes AIDS. 66.41.212.46 ( talk) 00:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)