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The QNET is not banned in India, the operation is going on under the name of VIHAAN DIRECT SELLING. All the allegations were removed by SUPREME COURT OF INDIA. It's just a lack of knowledge of what people have. They conceive what they see and don't read the full statement. The company is not bad it's just the people who make false promises due to which the company gets affected. Durg 7795 ( talk) 08:58, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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[copyright violation removed] Ntkvid ( talk) 05:22, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Not done: Copyright violation. Text copied from https://www.qnet.net/about-qnet/ Politanvm talk 05:35, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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Change the industry type from "Multi-level Marketing" to "Direct Selling."
Change the introduction from "Qnet Ltd, formerly known as QuestNet, GoldQuest, and QI Limited, is a Hong Kong-based multi-level marketing (MLM) company owned by the QI Group. The company's products include energy, weight management, nutrition, personal care, home care and fashion accessories on an e-commerce platform." to <redact copyvio> Business Facilitator ( talk) 17:31, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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The company is legal in india. As per verdict passed in supreme court 2016. 2409:4071:238E:B188:1896:BC42:3338:9BB6 ( talk) 09:42, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
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In 2000, Qnet was the official distributor of the Sydney Olympic Games commemorative coins and would later be named a distributor at the 2004 Athens Olympic Games and 2008 Beijing Olympic Games.
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I am taking some time to review the citations used on this page and I noticed that citation 44 was removed at the request of a 'Cyber Crime Investigation' in India. The citation was originally from a site by the name of 'Moneylife'. I did some additional research around this publisher and there has been extensive coverage around it's toxicity as an organization. Here is an article I found that details a conversation with Moneylife's editor where a neutral platform was offered to discuss QNet and she rejected it. I dug into the reliable sources archive to see if this had been discussed and found this long-winded conversation that ultimately led to stalled conversations. I don't believe this publisher's articles should be used as reliable sources as they are WP: DEPRECATED and there have been conversations around the biases and poor journalism practices within the organization. I propose that we remove this source throughout the article and address the content associated with it. Jmbld ( talk) 20:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
NYT does not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any advice, opinion, statement, or other information displayed, uploaded, or distributed through the Services by any user, information provider or any other person or entity.A poorly attended, inconclusive discussion at RSN is not a consensus to exclude this source anywhere and everywhere. MrOllie ( talk) 19:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
any other person or entityI'm also free to ignore it, because a poorly attended RSN discussion is not binding on anything. - MrOllie ( talk) 20:12, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
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While the Site and Los Angeles Times use reasonable efforts to include accurate and up-to-date information, neither the Site nor Los Angeles Times make any warranties or representations as to the accuracy of the Content and assume no liability or responsibility for any error or omission in the Content.I'm sure I could go on, those are the next two that I checked. MrOllie ( talk) 20:45, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
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Industry type is mentioned wrongly. I have visited their official page. Its mentioned as "Direct selling." Gopinathhr ( talk) 03:34, 11 May 2022 (UTC) [1] Please check this source and update the same.
(Source: https://www.qnetplus.net/) Gopinathhr ( talk) 03:34, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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What I think should be changed: Many government entities An observer that worked for French24 described Qnet's business model as a pyramid scheme.: early entrants earn money, and as the number of Independent Representatives (IRs) increases, finding more IRs to join becomes difficult or impossible; IRs that join late do not earn enough to cover their first outlay and the model collapses.[50][51]
Why I think it should be changed: The French24 article from the archive is definitely a questionable source WP:QS. My requested edits are aligned with the sources. No need to include the definition of a pyramid scheme here when the link to the Wikipedia page is right there. The definition is WP:UNDUE. QNetLars ( talk) 20:49, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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What I think should be changed: It QuestNet was banned in sued by Egypt, Rwanda, and Sri Lanka in 2009, but the ban was lifted once a mistake in paperwork was rectified.[5] for allegedly operating a product-based pyramid scheme. In 2017, Michael Ferreira and Malckolm Desai, Indian shareholders of a QNet franchise, were under investigation following allegations that QNet was a money circulation scheme; however, the Supreme Court stayed all proceedings and ruled against that, saying that QNet and its franchise are legitimate direct selling platforms[5][6].The company and its franchise Vihaan are under investigation in India.[41] The Bombay High Court denied the anticipatory bail plea of the directors of Vihaan Direct Selling Pvt Ltd., a franchise of Qnet, which included world amateur billiards champion Michael Ferreira after it was earlier rejected by Sessions Court. They were facing charges of cheating and forgery[42] The court observed that "the deceit and fraud is camouflaged under the name of e-marketing and business".[43]
Why I think it should be changed: Per the citation, QuestNet was the entity in question. Egypt didn’t sue anyone, a private religious group issued a decree stating the activities were haram. QNet was able to obtain a decree from a different religious group called ‘Dar illfta’, that stated that QNet activities were in compliance with sharia law, and hence not haram. Source is below. Given the updated legal information, this section is currently WP:UNDUE and does not meet WP:NPOV standards. Requesting edits to reach WP:BALANCE.
Source: https://issuu.com/qnet/docs/qnet-fatwa-halal
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What I think should be changed: Qnet changed its name repeatedly and launched at least 76 companies (as per the Bombay High court order of May 2016), often to sell lesser-known products manufactured by smaller companies using a multi-level marketing/direct sales model.[32](subscription required) Common people (IR in Qnet parlance) were taught to sell these products (often through workshops).
citation needed Sellers earned commissions for each new seller / buyer brought into the fold.
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Why I think it should be changed: I acquired a subscription to Scribd to read through the only source provided in this paragraph, and I noticed the document was uploaded by Moneylife. This organization has been discussed in length on Wikipedia and on this very talk page. The information on this page is not found in the cited document, and the document is uploaded by an organization that multiple Wikipedia contributors agree is unreliable. A clear example of WP:DEPRECATE.
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A now-banned editor, Jitumoni1995, published more than 50% of this article. They made a total of 222 total edits to the page, or 6.87% of the total edits made. Multiple editors including User:EvergreenFir and User:C.Fred noted this account’s edit warring, and warned them to adjust their editing behavior. The user didn’t change their behavior, and was eventually blocked by User:Drmies in September 2019. No effort was made post-ban to review or assess the validity and reliability of this user’s edits or to recognize how their continued presence on the page sets a baseline for an article that lacks a WP:NPOV.
Many of their edits were sourced from MoneyLife - an organization that has been discussed on this talk page, and on the RSN noticeboard, and has been everything but discredited on Wikipedia. [1] [2] [3] [4] These were all within the editor’s first month of edits to the page.
The content on this page needs to vetted as most of it was added by this editor who clearly didn’t fully understand Wikipedia’s guidelines i.e. [[WP:Disruptive_editing]] [[WP:Single-purpose_account]] among others, and used a publisher with extremely low editorial standards to populate a majority of this page. primarily the controversies section.
I am also including a list of additional examples that highlight Jitumoni’s negative influence on the page, and their heavy reliance on discredited and poor sourcing:
Given this information, the resistance we’re seeing to editing the page is disappointing. We have seen a lack of engagement to the MoneyLife Reliability conversation (outside of one response from [[User:Pabsoluterince|Pabsoluterince]] – thank you), multiple cases of content being published when it isn’t found in the associated citations to the page (1) (2) (3), and plenty of situations (as noted above) where a Wikipedia editor misunderstood Wikipedia’s guidelines and wrongfully published content to the page. Additionally, there has been an unnecessary amount of resistance against edits that attempt to clarify the content being extracted from associated citations with what is actually written in the articles on the page, and anything remotely positive is met with immediate reversions. Here and here for example.
It’s obvious that this Article has had a fraught history with edits that challenge Wikipedia’s neutrality guidelines in both positive and negative ways for the subject of the article and our purpose in raising this issue is not to turn the page into WP:PROMO. However, taking the above history into account we believe that the article as it currently exists was built on a foundation that clearly violates WP:NPOV and Wikipedia’s standards about reliable sourcing and neutrality.
With all of this context in mind, I ask that editors without a COI participate in conversations around this content and this editor, and make edits to the page that are aligned with reliable sources and Wikipedia’s guidelines. QNetLars ( talk) 19:27, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
User:MrOllie: I wasn't aware of the fact that this specific article is from the Forbes Asia print edition; I was under the assumption that all Forbes Contributor articles were opinion-based, so I thought they'd be treated as such. Regardless, in this case, the article is WP:BIASED against Qnet and contradicts Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policies. Even though it is a print edition of a Forbes Contributor article, the article's tone and the author itself are not neutral, and I would propose that these citations be replaced with more reliable articles if they exist. Jmbld ( talk) 04:35, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Should this page's content be reviewed and edited, given more than 50% of the content was published by a banned editor? QNetLars ( talk) 20:55, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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may be surraund of qnet is not good that does not means that qnet is not good. people not seen the heart of qnet. Qnet is a great company.
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Edit 1 - The Federation of Direct Selling Association rejected Vihaan's application, stating that Vihaan was in the recruitment business rather than retailing. It claimed that recruiting revenues were so large because recruiting rather than selling was the focus. However, in 2017, the Supreme Court in India ruled that Qnet and Vihaan were legitimate direct selling platforms. The court ordered a stay on all further proceedings against the company.
Edit 2 - In Moldova, a once-closed fraud case was reopened based on numerous complaints; however, the source material behind the complaint does not name Qnet as the one who made certain promises but instead individuals who reportedly lied to others.
Why it should be added: The information about Vihaan is missing important context, specifically the Supreme Court ruling and subsequent stay placed on proceedings. Very clear
WP:NPOV, as is the fraud case, which does not name Qnet as the one who made promises, but dishonest individuals.
I would also like to re-request a full review of the Controversies section to be aligned with Wikipedia’s criteria, as discussed in our numerous unanswered requests, including:
Request #2 QNetLars ( talk) 16:29, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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What I think should be added: A new 'Impersonations' section containing the following information:
In November 2022, Qnet announced support for the Attorney General in Ghana who was working to dissolve companies that were impersonating Qnet, conducting fraudulent business activities, and misrepresenting the company. The fraudulent companies operate under the name Quest Net or Q-NET Investment Limited.
Why it should be added: This information is accurate, important, and notable to Wikipedia readers, as it pertains to a major attempt to defraud people under false pretenses using Qnet's name illegally.
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Qnet has faced controversies since soon after its founding but has never been convicted in a court of law. There have been various cases registered against independent representatives (IRs) who, acting on their own, have violated their contractual agreements with Qnet and have been held accountable. https://gulfnews.com/uae/qnet-fires-over-400-represenatives-in-20-countries-1.70077493 2. Under 2007-2009 section:
Rwanda banned QuestNet in 2009 for legal violations, but this ban was lifted in 2012 https://allafrica.com/stories/201208290368.html https://www.businessforhome.org/2013/09/qnets-african-footprint-starts-with-rwanda/ References |
Why it should be added: This information is accurate, important, and notable to Wikipedia readers, and provides a more accurate, complete description of controversial events. QNetLars ( talk) 11:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
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Under Business Model section:
As per an official spokesperson, even though sign-up fees are not charged, a purchase might be required. This may be in the form of the sale of a qualifying product to a retail customer or by the new representative making a qualifying purchase. In 2022, Yeoh Soon Hin, a Malaysian state executive councilor for tourism and creative economy, thanked Qnet for bringing entrepreneurs to Malaysia and boosting tourism during the company’s bi-annual convention. [1]The convention is held with support from the Penang Convention & Exhibition Bureau. [2]
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What I think should be added under 2019:
The police have written to several investigating agencies including Reserve Bank of India, Enforcement Directorate, Income Tax Department, Serious Fraud Investigation Office, Registrar of Companies, India about how the firm was running Ponzi schemes and have created thousands of investors across the country. After some of the Cyberabad arrests, the Qnet Distributors Welfare Association filed a petition with the Telangana High Court stating that the police were indiscriminately registering criminal cases without following the state’s guidelines. [1] [2]
The Registrar of Companies in Karnataka had inspected the books of Vihaan Direct Selling Pvt Ltd, a franchise of QNet, and based upon the report, it had filed winding up petition before the National Company Law Tribunal. In 2022, the Karnataka high court passed an order directing authorities not to take any coercive measures against Vihaan Direct Selling. [3]
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a division bench headed by Chief Justice Ritu Raj Awasthi has said that the investigation regarding the complaints filed against the petitioner company may go ahead and added that Vihaan Direct Selling should co-operate with the probe.Ideally, any mention of the relief order should mention all main points of said order. Regards, Spintendo 03:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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Tajikistan newspaper 'Jumhuriyat attacked Qnet as a dangerous financial pyramid. The company claimed the accusations were false. In September, Qnet sued private radio station and journalist Orzu Isoyev to protect its reputation after the station called the company the next pyramid. Religious leaders stated that the company's activities violated Sharia law by combining two transactions into one: allowing independent representatives to buy a sales kit and simultaneously a representative product. Qnet changed its business practices and continued to operate in the country. This was because the activity involved deceiving people and because the work combined two transactions into one, in that the member must make a purchase and at also agree to find new buyers. In addition, the member can make profits at someone else's expense.
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The QNET is not banned in India, the operation is going on under the name of VIHAAN DIRECT SELLING. All the allegations were removed by SUPREME COURT OF INDIA. It's just a lack of knowledge of what people have. They conceive what they see and don't read the full statement. The company is not bad it's just the people who make false promises due to which the company gets affected. Durg 7795 ( talk) 08:58, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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[copyright violation removed] Ntkvid ( talk) 05:22, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Not done: Copyright violation. Text copied from https://www.qnet.net/about-qnet/ Politanvm talk 05:35, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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Change the industry type from "Multi-level Marketing" to "Direct Selling."
Change the introduction from "Qnet Ltd, formerly known as QuestNet, GoldQuest, and QI Limited, is a Hong Kong-based multi-level marketing (MLM) company owned by the QI Group. The company's products include energy, weight management, nutrition, personal care, home care and fashion accessories on an e-commerce platform." to <redact copyvio> Business Facilitator ( talk) 17:31, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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The company is legal in india. As per verdict passed in supreme court 2016. 2409:4071:238E:B188:1896:BC42:3338:9BB6 ( talk) 09:42, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
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In 2000, Qnet was the official distributor of the Sydney Olympic Games commemorative coins and would later be named a distributor at the 2004 Athens Olympic Games and 2008 Beijing Olympic Games.
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I am taking some time to review the citations used on this page and I noticed that citation 44 was removed at the request of a 'Cyber Crime Investigation' in India. The citation was originally from a site by the name of 'Moneylife'. I did some additional research around this publisher and there has been extensive coverage around it's toxicity as an organization. Here is an article I found that details a conversation with Moneylife's editor where a neutral platform was offered to discuss QNet and she rejected it. I dug into the reliable sources archive to see if this had been discussed and found this long-winded conversation that ultimately led to stalled conversations. I don't believe this publisher's articles should be used as reliable sources as they are WP: DEPRECATED and there have been conversations around the biases and poor journalism practices within the organization. I propose that we remove this source throughout the article and address the content associated with it. Jmbld ( talk) 20:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
NYT does not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any advice, opinion, statement, or other information displayed, uploaded, or distributed through the Services by any user, information provider or any other person or entity.A poorly attended, inconclusive discussion at RSN is not a consensus to exclude this source anywhere and everywhere. MrOllie ( talk) 19:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
any other person or entityI'm also free to ignore it, because a poorly attended RSN discussion is not binding on anything. - MrOllie ( talk) 20:12, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
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Industry type is mentioned wrongly. I have visited their official page. Its mentioned as "Direct selling." Gopinathhr ( talk) 03:34, 11 May 2022 (UTC) [1] Please check this source and update the same.
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What I think should be changed: Many government entities An observer that worked for French24 described Qnet's business model as a pyramid scheme.: early entrants earn money, and as the number of Independent Representatives (IRs) increases, finding more IRs to join becomes difficult or impossible; IRs that join late do not earn enough to cover their first outlay and the model collapses.[50][51]
Why I think it should be changed: The French24 article from the archive is definitely a questionable source WP:QS. My requested edits are aligned with the sources. No need to include the definition of a pyramid scheme here when the link to the Wikipedia page is right there. The definition is WP:UNDUE. QNetLars ( talk) 20:49, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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What I think should be changed: It QuestNet was banned in sued by Egypt, Rwanda, and Sri Lanka in 2009, but the ban was lifted once a mistake in paperwork was rectified.[5] for allegedly operating a product-based pyramid scheme. In 2017, Michael Ferreira and Malckolm Desai, Indian shareholders of a QNet franchise, were under investigation following allegations that QNet was a money circulation scheme; however, the Supreme Court stayed all proceedings and ruled against that, saying that QNet and its franchise are legitimate direct selling platforms[5][6].The company and its franchise Vihaan are under investigation in India.[41] The Bombay High Court denied the anticipatory bail plea of the directors of Vihaan Direct Selling Pvt Ltd., a franchise of Qnet, which included world amateur billiards champion Michael Ferreira after it was earlier rejected by Sessions Court. They were facing charges of cheating and forgery[42] The court observed that "the deceit and fraud is camouflaged under the name of e-marketing and business".[43]
Why I think it should be changed: Per the citation, QuestNet was the entity in question. Egypt didn’t sue anyone, a private religious group issued a decree stating the activities were haram. QNet was able to obtain a decree from a different religious group called ‘Dar illfta’, that stated that QNet activities were in compliance with sharia law, and hence not haram. Source is below. Given the updated legal information, this section is currently WP:UNDUE and does not meet WP:NPOV standards. Requesting edits to reach WP:BALANCE.
Source: https://issuu.com/qnet/docs/qnet-fatwa-halal
QNetLars ( talk) 15:16, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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What I think should be changed: Qnet changed its name repeatedly and launched at least 76 companies (as per the Bombay High court order of May 2016), often to sell lesser-known products manufactured by smaller companies using a multi-level marketing/direct sales model.[32](subscription required) Common people (IR in Qnet parlance) were taught to sell these products (often through workshops).
citation needed Sellers earned commissions for each new seller / buyer brought into the fold.
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Why I think it should be changed: I acquired a subscription to Scribd to read through the only source provided in this paragraph, and I noticed the document was uploaded by Moneylife. This organization has been discussed in length on Wikipedia and on this very talk page. The information on this page is not found in the cited document, and the document is uploaded by an organization that multiple Wikipedia contributors agree is unreliable. A clear example of WP:DEPRECATE.
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QNetLars ( talk) 19:19, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
A now-banned editor, Jitumoni1995, published more than 50% of this article. They made a total of 222 total edits to the page, or 6.87% of the total edits made. Multiple editors including User:EvergreenFir and User:C.Fred noted this account’s edit warring, and warned them to adjust their editing behavior. The user didn’t change their behavior, and was eventually blocked by User:Drmies in September 2019. No effort was made post-ban to review or assess the validity and reliability of this user’s edits or to recognize how their continued presence on the page sets a baseline for an article that lacks a WP:NPOV.
Many of their edits were sourced from MoneyLife - an organization that has been discussed on this talk page, and on the RSN noticeboard, and has been everything but discredited on Wikipedia. [1] [2] [3] [4] These were all within the editor’s first month of edits to the page.
The content on this page needs to vetted as most of it was added by this editor who clearly didn’t fully understand Wikipedia’s guidelines i.e. [[WP:Disruptive_editing]] [[WP:Single-purpose_account]] among others, and used a publisher with extremely low editorial standards to populate a majority of this page. primarily the controversies section.
I am also including a list of additional examples that highlight Jitumoni’s negative influence on the page, and their heavy reliance on discredited and poor sourcing:
Given this information, the resistance we’re seeing to editing the page is disappointing. We have seen a lack of engagement to the MoneyLife Reliability conversation (outside of one response from [[User:Pabsoluterince|Pabsoluterince]] – thank you), multiple cases of content being published when it isn’t found in the associated citations to the page (1) (2) (3), and plenty of situations (as noted above) where a Wikipedia editor misunderstood Wikipedia’s guidelines and wrongfully published content to the page. Additionally, there has been an unnecessary amount of resistance against edits that attempt to clarify the content being extracted from associated citations with what is actually written in the articles on the page, and anything remotely positive is met with immediate reversions. Here and here for example.
It’s obvious that this Article has had a fraught history with edits that challenge Wikipedia’s neutrality guidelines in both positive and negative ways for the subject of the article and our purpose in raising this issue is not to turn the page into WP:PROMO. However, taking the above history into account we believe that the article as it currently exists was built on a foundation that clearly violates WP:NPOV and Wikipedia’s standards about reliable sourcing and neutrality.
With all of this context in mind, I ask that editors without a COI participate in conversations around this content and this editor, and make edits to the page that are aligned with reliable sources and Wikipedia’s guidelines. QNetLars ( talk) 19:27, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
User:MrOllie: I wasn't aware of the fact that this specific article is from the Forbes Asia print edition; I was under the assumption that all Forbes Contributor articles were opinion-based, so I thought they'd be treated as such. Regardless, in this case, the article is WP:BIASED against Qnet and contradicts Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policies. Even though it is a print edition of a Forbes Contributor article, the article's tone and the author itself are not neutral, and I would propose that these citations be replaced with more reliable articles if they exist. Jmbld ( talk) 04:35, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Should this page's content be reviewed and edited, given more than 50% of the content was published by a banned editor? QNetLars ( talk) 20:55, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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may be surraund of qnet is not good that does not means that qnet is not good. people not seen the heart of qnet. Qnet is a great company.
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To whom it may concern: My contributions are made on behalf and in consultation with QNet. Because of my conflict of interest, I won't be editing the article directly, but I'd like to request that an edit be made to the page.
What I think should be added:
Edit 1 - The Federation of Direct Selling Association rejected Vihaan's application, stating that Vihaan was in the recruitment business rather than retailing. It claimed that recruiting revenues were so large because recruiting rather than selling was the focus. However, in 2017, the Supreme Court in India ruled that Qnet and Vihaan were legitimate direct selling platforms. The court ordered a stay on all further proceedings against the company.
Edit 2 - In Moldova, a once-closed fraud case was reopened based on numerous complaints; however, the source material behind the complaint does not name Qnet as the one who made certain promises but instead individuals who reportedly lied to others.
Why it should be added: The information about Vihaan is missing important context, specifically the Supreme Court ruling and subsequent stay placed on proceedings. Very clear
WP:NPOV, as is the fraud case, which does not name Qnet as the one who made promises, but dishonest individuals.
I would also like to re-request a full review of the Controversies section to be aligned with Wikipedia’s criteria, as discussed in our numerous unanswered requests, including:
Request #2 QNetLars ( talk) 16:29, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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To whom it may concern: My contributions are made on behalf and in consultation with QNet. Because of my conflict of interest, I won't be editing the article directly, but I'd like to request that an edit be made to the page.
What I think should be added: A new 'Impersonations' section containing the following information:
In November 2022, Qnet announced support for the Attorney General in Ghana who was working to dissolve companies that were impersonating Qnet, conducting fraudulent business activities, and misrepresenting the company. The fraudulent companies operate under the name Quest Net or Q-NET Investment Limited.
Why it should be added: This information is accurate, important, and notable to Wikipedia readers, as it pertains to a major attempt to defraud people under false pretenses using Qnet's name illegally.
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Qnet has faced controversies since soon after its founding but has never been convicted in a court of law. There have been various cases registered against independent representatives (IRs) who, acting on their own, have violated their contractual agreements with Qnet and have been held accountable. https://gulfnews.com/uae/qnet-fires-over-400-represenatives-in-20-countries-1.70077493 2. Under 2007-2009 section:
Rwanda banned QuestNet in 2009 for legal violations, but this ban was lifted in 2012 https://allafrica.com/stories/201208290368.html https://www.businessforhome.org/2013/09/qnets-african-footprint-starts-with-rwanda/ References |
Why it should be added: This information is accurate, important, and notable to Wikipedia readers, and provides a more accurate, complete description of controversial events. QNetLars ( talk) 11:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
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What I think should be added:
Under Business Model section:
As per an official spokesperson, even though sign-up fees are not charged, a purchase might be required. This may be in the form of the sale of a qualifying product to a retail customer or by the new representative making a qualifying purchase. In 2022, Yeoh Soon Hin, a Malaysian state executive councilor for tourism and creative economy, thanked Qnet for bringing entrepreneurs to Malaysia and boosting tourism during the company’s bi-annual convention. [1]The convention is held with support from the Penang Convention & Exhibition Bureau. [2]
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What I think should be added under 2019:
The police have written to several investigating agencies including Reserve Bank of India, Enforcement Directorate, Income Tax Department, Serious Fraud Investigation Office, Registrar of Companies, India about how the firm was running Ponzi schemes and have created thousands of investors across the country. After some of the Cyberabad arrests, the Qnet Distributors Welfare Association filed a petition with the Telangana High Court stating that the police were indiscriminately registering criminal cases without following the state’s guidelines. [1] [2]
The Registrar of Companies in Karnataka had inspected the books of Vihaan Direct Selling Pvt Ltd, a franchise of QNet, and based upon the report, it had filed winding up petition before the National Company Law Tribunal. In 2022, the Karnataka high court passed an order directing authorities not to take any coercive measures against Vihaan Direct Selling. [3]
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QNetLars ( talk) 10:42, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
a division bench headed by Chief Justice Ritu Raj Awasthi has said that the investigation regarding the complaints filed against the petitioner company may go ahead and added that Vihaan Direct Selling should co-operate with the probe.Ideally, any mention of the relief order should mention all main points of said order. Regards, Spintendo 03:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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To whom it may concern: My contributions are made on behalf and in consultation with Qnet. Because of my conflict of interest, I won't be editing the article directly, but I'd like to request edits to be made to the page.
What I think should be added under section 2013 - 2015:
In June, 2014,
Tajikistan newspaper 'Jumhuriyat attacked Qnet as a dangerous financial pyramid. The company claimed the accusations were false. In September, Qnet sued private radio station and journalist Orzu Isoyev to protect its reputation after the station called the company the next pyramid. Religious leaders stated that the company's activities violated Sharia law by combining two transactions into one: allowing independent representatives to buy a sales kit and simultaneously a representative product. Qnet changed its business practices and continued to operate in the country. This was because the activity involved deceiving people and because the work combined two transactions into one, in that the member must make a purchase and at also agree to find new buyers. In addition, the member can make profits at someone else's expense.
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