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Why does the edit history show this page being created in the summer of 2007? I know a Wikipedia page with this title and approximately this same content existed in 2003. I listed it then, or maybe in 2002, on the partition disambiguation page. Michael Hardy ( talk) 01:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Should the following also be included?
Michael Hardy ( talk) 01:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
What???? Obviously when Germany was split into two countries called East Germany and West Germany, it resulted from a war in which the USSR invaded eastern Germany and France, Britain, and the USA invaded western Germany. How is that an instance of "factions in a single country establishing" anything?
And northern Cyprus was INVADED by Turkey in 1974; that's how that split came about.
And the Korean War obviously involved the USA. Michael Hardy ( talk) 01:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
So what? The article doesn't say a partition involves annexation into occupying forces. You seem to be changing the rules as you proceed. Michael Hardy ( talk) 02:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
One of those things on my list, to make secession, partition, separatism a little more consistent with each other. IN the interim, here's an interesting article I just found and will read at some point that will at least shed some light on the subject. Just 355 fair use words, part of the intro. Check it out! http://www.qub.ac.uk/cibr/WPpdffiles/MFWPpdf/w27_bol.pdf
WORDING MATTERS: PARSING PARTITION partition n. & v.—n. 1. division into parts, esp. Polit. of a country with separate areas of government. 2. a structure dividing a space into two parts, esp. a light interior wall. v.tr. 1. divide into parts. 2 (foll. by off) separate (part of a room etc.) with a partition. �� partitioned adj. partitioner n. partitionist n. [ME f. OF f. L partitio –onis (as PARTITE)] (Concise Oxford Dictionary, 1990: 868). partition n. (15c) 1: the action of parting: the state of being parted: DIVISION 2: something that divides: esp. an interior dividing wall 3: one of the parts or sections of a whole. partition vt (1653) 1a. to divide into parts or shares b: to divide (as a country) into two or more territorial units having separate political status 2: to separate or divide by partition (as a wall)—often used with off partitioner n partitionist n. (ca. 1900): an advocate of political partition. (Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th ed., 2003: 904). The standard dictionaries of English suggest that partition and division are synonyms. Partition, in a general sense, is the division of an entity into parts. It may be analytical: a mathematician partitioning one side of an expression to develop a proof divides nothing in the physical world, even though the deductions may be recorded in writing. But partition may be actual; something that exists is divided; independently of what observers think, a unified entity is divided into parts, as when a butcher dismembers a sheep’s body. Partition may also be subjective: one observer testifies to the division of an entity into parts, but another may deny that it was a unified entity. A political partition objectively divides a previously unified territorial entity into two or more parts, which may be marked with borders, codified in new maps, and operationalized, for example in demarcated lines, perhaps accompanied by fences, walls, paint or barbed wire, or punctuated with official posts where passes or passports may be demanded. Reactions to a political partition are subjective, but in a systematic manner—there will be proponents, opponents and the indifferent, who are always with us.
Carol Moore 03:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC) User:Carolmooredc User talk:Carolmooredc
Does this mean that the partition of Czechoslovakia was not a partition? or that the partition of India, if done with more sensitivity to local preferences, might not be a partition? — Tamfang ( talk) 21:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
I propose that the list of examples be split into a separate page. It's extremely long and weighs down readability in my opinion. Yr Enw ( talk) 15:38, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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Why does the edit history show this page being created in the summer of 2007? I know a Wikipedia page with this title and approximately this same content existed in 2003. I listed it then, or maybe in 2002, on the partition disambiguation page. Michael Hardy ( talk) 01:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Should the following also be included?
Michael Hardy ( talk) 01:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
What???? Obviously when Germany was split into two countries called East Germany and West Germany, it resulted from a war in which the USSR invaded eastern Germany and France, Britain, and the USA invaded western Germany. How is that an instance of "factions in a single country establishing" anything?
And northern Cyprus was INVADED by Turkey in 1974; that's how that split came about.
And the Korean War obviously involved the USA. Michael Hardy ( talk) 01:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
So what? The article doesn't say a partition involves annexation into occupying forces. You seem to be changing the rules as you proceed. Michael Hardy ( talk) 02:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
One of those things on my list, to make secession, partition, separatism a little more consistent with each other. IN the interim, here's an interesting article I just found and will read at some point that will at least shed some light on the subject. Just 355 fair use words, part of the intro. Check it out! http://www.qub.ac.uk/cibr/WPpdffiles/MFWPpdf/w27_bol.pdf
WORDING MATTERS: PARSING PARTITION partition n. & v.—n. 1. division into parts, esp. Polit. of a country with separate areas of government. 2. a structure dividing a space into two parts, esp. a light interior wall. v.tr. 1. divide into parts. 2 (foll. by off) separate (part of a room etc.) with a partition. �� partitioned adj. partitioner n. partitionist n. [ME f. OF f. L partitio –onis (as PARTITE)] (Concise Oxford Dictionary, 1990: 868). partition n. (15c) 1: the action of parting: the state of being parted: DIVISION 2: something that divides: esp. an interior dividing wall 3: one of the parts or sections of a whole. partition vt (1653) 1a. to divide into parts or shares b: to divide (as a country) into two or more territorial units having separate political status 2: to separate or divide by partition (as a wall)—often used with off partitioner n partitionist n. (ca. 1900): an advocate of political partition. (Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th ed., 2003: 904). The standard dictionaries of English suggest that partition and division are synonyms. Partition, in a general sense, is the division of an entity into parts. It may be analytical: a mathematician partitioning one side of an expression to develop a proof divides nothing in the physical world, even though the deductions may be recorded in writing. But partition may be actual; something that exists is divided; independently of what observers think, a unified entity is divided into parts, as when a butcher dismembers a sheep’s body. Partition may also be subjective: one observer testifies to the division of an entity into parts, but another may deny that it was a unified entity. A political partition objectively divides a previously unified territorial entity into two or more parts, which may be marked with borders, codified in new maps, and operationalized, for example in demarcated lines, perhaps accompanied by fences, walls, paint or barbed wire, or punctuated with official posts where passes or passports may be demanded. Reactions to a political partition are subjective, but in a systematic manner—there will be proponents, opponents and the indifferent, who are always with us.
Carol Moore 03:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC) User:Carolmooredc User talk:Carolmooredc
Does this mean that the partition of Czechoslovakia was not a partition? or that the partition of India, if done with more sensitivity to local preferences, might not be a partition? — Tamfang ( talk) 21:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
I propose that the list of examples be split into a separate page. It's extremely long and weighs down readability in my opinion. Yr Enw ( talk) 15:38, 26 August 2023 (UTC)