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Every promotional material is referreing to this TV show as "New Girl". Why has this article been called "The New Girl"? Slasher-fun ( talk) 20:13, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Is it Jake Johnson or Jake M. Johnson? Cleo20 ( talk) 15:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
can someone explain why coach returns from somewhere if he was already there in the pilot episode? it's really confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.163.214.58 ( talk) 20:42, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
This show is not single-camera. not sure how to change the infobox. Moss Ryder ( talk) 02:33, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Are you sure it's not? Everything I've read said it is. And it looks just like the other single-cams on TV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rurry007 ( talk • contribs) 07:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
The critics section has a lot of grammar issues and also doesn't really cite its sources... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rurry007 ( talk • contribs) 07:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
I think of all the characters on the show, Schmidt has become the most evolved. He has gone beyond the series, even having his own dating service video on YouTube, and his book "The Douche Journals" was published before the season premiere. - Jasonbres ( talk) 16:15, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Cece's full name was revealed to be Cecelia Park in "Table 34" (season 2: episode 16), but from the beginning of the series, it has been Cece Meyers. Should it be changed? -- CollisionCourse ( talk) 08:52, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Even if the series happens in one of the largest latino (hispanic) cities in the world (the largest one outside Latin America or Spain), there are no latino characters. Racism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.195.117.70 ( talk) 17:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
I am going to remove the international broadcast section, last included here. It seems the show airs almost everywhere now, so the list in itself is nothing special (lacking noteworthiness). The list overwhelms the article (editoriability). How I Met Your Mother doesn't have such a list either, probably for the same reasons (see talk page). I personally don't mind mentioning some English-speaking countries, but IMO the (full) list has to go. – sgeureka t• c 11:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Season 3 is about to start, so I expect this article to get more interest from readers soon, possibly from editors as well. I have started collecting masses of information in my userspace in order to expand this article significantly. However, I am about to go on vacation without internet access and will work offline on the article instead. Just for everyone's information so that we can avoid duplicate or lost work. – sgeureka t• c 14:40, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
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It's not entirely clear how the article should treat Damon Wayans Jr.'s appearances in New Girl. Technically speaking (which is usually pivotal for me), he is not in the main cast and hence shouldn't be listed in the Main cast section. However, it's entirely likely he'll appear in even more episodes this season than main cast actress Hannah Simone (Cece), and there is more media coverage about Wayans than I could ever find for Simone. As long as it's made clear that Wayans is technically not part of the main cast (in parentheses), I propose to include him in the main cast section. This is more educational for the reader than just listing him with the usual ten-word blurb in the Recurring cast section. – sgeureka t• c 17:49, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
creation Even with the spun-off character list, the article is currently 115 kB, of which 46 kB are "readable prose size". Per WP:TOOBIG, the article is near "> 50 kB: May need to be divided (likelihood goes up with size)". The likeliest spin-off subjects are Nick and Jess (their section already overwhelms the article, but as the most discussed topic by media outlets, this is not surprising) and the Awards table. I am in no hurry to split both them off right now, but with the show very likely to be renewed for a fourth season soon, I want to ask others for input what should be done (agreement, opposion, or other ideas). – sgeureka t• c 11:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I agree it should be split. A new page for "Nick and Jess" or just for the entire "relationships" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.172.27 ( talk) 17:25, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I think the seven(?) bar theme song (which is often truncated further) is unusual enough to merit a little discussion in the article. I'm guessing it was supposed to be one of Jess's dorky improvised songs, with a background that she's fantasized involving her roommates--but while the producers might know, I'm just speculating. I can't remember whether Wayans appears in the theme to the pilot, but that might be worth noting too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.114.96 ( talk) 16:00, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Is this significant amount to be included into the New Girl article? In which these sources say that the creators of New Girl had blatantly ripped off from the show Square One, as they proclaimed. The creators of Square One, Stephanie Counts and Shari Gold, claimed that there are "so numerous and specific that the independent creation was obviously impossible."
Sources:
panicpack121 16:49, 26 February 2014
If it's settled out of court, it'll be mentioned in due course. I'm pretty sure of that. I support a subheading.
The result of the move request was: Move. We have consensus that this is the primary topic of the term "New Girl". Cúchullain t/ c 23:40, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
New Girl (TV series) →
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Now that the New Girl TV season is over, here's what I plan to do with the article in the upcoming weeks:
If anyone else has suggestions or concerns, let me know. – sgeureka t• c 13:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Per the admin close of 21:28, 19 March 2015, TV running times, like movie running times, need third-party citation. Otherwise, it is WP:OR. Admin: "Before we can allow running times measured by individual Wikipedians from the shows themselves, we would first have to change WP:NOR to make an exception for such cases". It was reiterated on this page under "Thank you, and a question": "A reliable third party source is required. ... I don't see any exception for approximations based on original research. Station schedules would have time slots, and that's as close as you're likely to get...."
Based on this, the directions for the infobox's runtime parameter need to include this decision, which follows Wikipedia WP:OR policy. This would be, to quote, the admin: "third-party source required." I would ask that the editors who argued against this in the RfC to please abide by the RfC close, the admin reiterations, and Wikipedia OR policy. -- Tenebrae ( talk)
This discussion is moot. Before we can allow running times measured by individual Wikipedians from the shows themselves, we would first have to change WP:NOR to make an exception for such cases. An RfC among editors with a specific area of interest, and by definition biased in favour of a liking for the minutiae of TV shows, cannot be an appropriate venue for overriding foundational policy.However, you are well aware of this, having had this discussion previously. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 15:53, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
why don't you want to cite it, that's a bit hard when you're deleting the content and even sometimes the entire parameter. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 16:20, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
And now I see that User:AussieLegend has properly cited the runtime, which is all I and WP:NOR were ever asking for in the first place. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would choose to create wikidrama rather than just citing something properly. It's all good now. It's all done. This is all that was ever needed, for goodness' sake. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 19:15, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
There still seems to be some edit-warring over runtimes despite the addition of a citation. {{ Infobox television}} only requires an approximation for the runtime, so 22 minutes is used because most episodes are that length. However an anonymous editor has been adding "21-24 minutes", which is both technically correct and supported by the citation. If you look at the url in the citation you will see that season 4 episode 6 is 24 minutes long. On that page, at the left and just above the episode list, is a button labelled "Season 4". Clicking that reveals a drop-down box that allows you to select different seasons. If you select season 1, you'll see that episodes 1,2,3,6,13 and 19 are all 21 minutes long, so "21-24 minutes", which is what the IP originally added, is the actual runtime range. While the existing citation seems more than sufficient, it appears that either people do not realise that all of the seasons can be checked from the one page, so I've amended the existing citation and added another so that both relevant seasons can be checked. If necessary I can add cites for seasons 2, 3 & 5 as well. I've changed "22 minutes" to "21-24 minutes", as that is the actual range. Hopefully, that should stop the continued edit-warring. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 06:54, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
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Did I miss the obvious answer: why is season 5 a season without Zooey, other than the first few episodes? I'm not even sure whether it's Zooey from the hotel window. -- Traut ( talk) 04:58, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
I got here by searching "Abigail Day". So why is it, "Abbie Day" and "Abby Day" redirects to this? I couldn't find any of those given names from the article.
Maybe closest was By emphasing how the characters got together, the show "made for hilarious setups [that occasionally led] to high-level Abbott and Costello slapstick, and I doubt they refer to that.
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Every promotional material is referreing to this TV show as "New Girl". Why has this article been called "The New Girl"? Slasher-fun ( talk) 20:13, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Is it Jake Johnson or Jake M. Johnson? Cleo20 ( talk) 15:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
can someone explain why coach returns from somewhere if he was already there in the pilot episode? it's really confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.163.214.58 ( talk) 20:42, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
This show is not single-camera. not sure how to change the infobox. Moss Ryder ( talk) 02:33, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Are you sure it's not? Everything I've read said it is. And it looks just like the other single-cams on TV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rurry007 ( talk • contribs) 07:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
The critics section has a lot of grammar issues and also doesn't really cite its sources... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rurry007 ( talk • contribs) 07:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
I think of all the characters on the show, Schmidt has become the most evolved. He has gone beyond the series, even having his own dating service video on YouTube, and his book "The Douche Journals" was published before the season premiere. - Jasonbres ( talk) 16:15, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Cece's full name was revealed to be Cecelia Park in "Table 34" (season 2: episode 16), but from the beginning of the series, it has been Cece Meyers. Should it be changed? -- CollisionCourse ( talk) 08:52, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Even if the series happens in one of the largest latino (hispanic) cities in the world (the largest one outside Latin America or Spain), there are no latino characters. Racism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.195.117.70 ( talk) 17:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
I am going to remove the international broadcast section, last included here. It seems the show airs almost everywhere now, so the list in itself is nothing special (lacking noteworthiness). The list overwhelms the article (editoriability). How I Met Your Mother doesn't have such a list either, probably for the same reasons (see talk page). I personally don't mind mentioning some English-speaking countries, but IMO the (full) list has to go. – sgeureka t• c 11:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Season 3 is about to start, so I expect this article to get more interest from readers soon, possibly from editors as well. I have started collecting masses of information in my userspace in order to expand this article significantly. However, I am about to go on vacation without internet access and will work offline on the article instead. Just for everyone's information so that we can avoid duplicate or lost work. – sgeureka t• c 14:40, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
It's not entirely clear how the article should treat Damon Wayans Jr.'s appearances in New Girl. Technically speaking (which is usually pivotal for me), he is not in the main cast and hence shouldn't be listed in the Main cast section. However, it's entirely likely he'll appear in even more episodes this season than main cast actress Hannah Simone (Cece), and there is more media coverage about Wayans than I could ever find for Simone. As long as it's made clear that Wayans is technically not part of the main cast (in parentheses), I propose to include him in the main cast section. This is more educational for the reader than just listing him with the usual ten-word blurb in the Recurring cast section. – sgeureka t• c 17:49, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
creation Even with the spun-off character list, the article is currently 115 kB, of which 46 kB are "readable prose size". Per WP:TOOBIG, the article is near "> 50 kB: May need to be divided (likelihood goes up with size)". The likeliest spin-off subjects are Nick and Jess (their section already overwhelms the article, but as the most discussed topic by media outlets, this is not surprising) and the Awards table. I am in no hurry to split both them off right now, but with the show very likely to be renewed for a fourth season soon, I want to ask others for input what should be done (agreement, opposion, or other ideas). – sgeureka t• c 11:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I agree it should be split. A new page for "Nick and Jess" or just for the entire "relationships" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.172.27 ( talk) 17:25, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I think the seven(?) bar theme song (which is often truncated further) is unusual enough to merit a little discussion in the article. I'm guessing it was supposed to be one of Jess's dorky improvised songs, with a background that she's fantasized involving her roommates--but while the producers might know, I'm just speculating. I can't remember whether Wayans appears in the theme to the pilot, but that might be worth noting too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.114.96 ( talk) 16:00, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Is this significant amount to be included into the New Girl article? In which these sources say that the creators of New Girl had blatantly ripped off from the show Square One, as they proclaimed. The creators of Square One, Stephanie Counts and Shari Gold, claimed that there are "so numerous and specific that the independent creation was obviously impossible."
Sources:
panicpack121 16:49, 26 February 2014
If it's settled out of court, it'll be mentioned in due course. I'm pretty sure of that. I support a subheading.
The result of the move request was: Move. We have consensus that this is the primary topic of the term "New Girl". Cúchullain t/ c 23:40, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
New Girl (TV series) →
New Girl – The TV show is clearly the
primary topic here. The TV series has received
235,186 views in the past 30 days, compared to
897 for The_New_Girl_(Haven) and
838 for The_New_Girl_(novel) (the other topics listed at the
New Girl disambiguation page that have an associated article page). This is not to mention that the other articles contain "The" in their names, whereas the article for the TV series does not.
Fearstreetsaga (
talk) 03:26, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Now that the New Girl TV season is over, here's what I plan to do with the article in the upcoming weeks:
If anyone else has suggestions or concerns, let me know. – sgeureka t• c 13:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Per the admin close of 21:28, 19 March 2015, TV running times, like movie running times, need third-party citation. Otherwise, it is WP:OR. Admin: "Before we can allow running times measured by individual Wikipedians from the shows themselves, we would first have to change WP:NOR to make an exception for such cases". It was reiterated on this page under "Thank you, and a question": "A reliable third party source is required. ... I don't see any exception for approximations based on original research. Station schedules would have time slots, and that's as close as you're likely to get...."
Based on this, the directions for the infobox's runtime parameter need to include this decision, which follows Wikipedia WP:OR policy. This would be, to quote, the admin: "third-party source required." I would ask that the editors who argued against this in the RfC to please abide by the RfC close, the admin reiterations, and Wikipedia OR policy. -- Tenebrae ( talk)
This discussion is moot. Before we can allow running times measured by individual Wikipedians from the shows themselves, we would first have to change WP:NOR to make an exception for such cases. An RfC among editors with a specific area of interest, and by definition biased in favour of a liking for the minutiae of TV shows, cannot be an appropriate venue for overriding foundational policy.However, you are well aware of this, having had this discussion previously. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 15:53, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
why don't you want to cite it, that's a bit hard when you're deleting the content and even sometimes the entire parameter. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 16:20, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
And now I see that User:AussieLegend has properly cited the runtime, which is all I and WP:NOR were ever asking for in the first place. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would choose to create wikidrama rather than just citing something properly. It's all good now. It's all done. This is all that was ever needed, for goodness' sake. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 19:15, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
There still seems to be some edit-warring over runtimes despite the addition of a citation. {{ Infobox television}} only requires an approximation for the runtime, so 22 minutes is used because most episodes are that length. However an anonymous editor has been adding "21-24 minutes", which is both technically correct and supported by the citation. If you look at the url in the citation you will see that season 4 episode 6 is 24 minutes long. On that page, at the left and just above the episode list, is a button labelled "Season 4". Clicking that reveals a drop-down box that allows you to select different seasons. If you select season 1, you'll see that episodes 1,2,3,6,13 and 19 are all 21 minutes long, so "21-24 minutes", which is what the IP originally added, is the actual runtime range. While the existing citation seems more than sufficient, it appears that either people do not realise that all of the seasons can be checked from the one page, so I've amended the existing citation and added another so that both relevant seasons can be checked. If necessary I can add cites for seasons 2, 3 & 5 as well. I've changed "22 minutes" to "21-24 minutes", as that is the actual range. Hopefully, that should stop the continued edit-warring. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 06:54, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
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Did I miss the obvious answer: why is season 5 a season without Zooey, other than the first few episodes? I'm not even sure whether it's Zooey from the hotel window. -- Traut ( talk) 04:58, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
I got here by searching "Abigail Day". So why is it, "Abbie Day" and "Abby Day" redirects to this? I couldn't find any of those given names from the article.
Maybe closest was By emphasing how the characters got together, the show "made for hilarious setups [that occasionally led] to high-level Abbott and Costello slapstick, and I doubt they refer to that.
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