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I live in the area and I know what is considered part of Metro East and what isn't. I'm breaking up this page. This will take a lot of edits, so be patient.
Kimmy78 02:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
OK, this article originally listed 11 counties as Metro-east, now it lists 6 and St. Louis MSA includes 5 counties. Does anyone have a source for what exactly is Metro-east, not I live there so trust me, but an actual, verifiable source? Someone created Image:Metro-East location.gif, I was about to make an svg version, but I see that the definition has changed. Can someone tell me what counties to include so I can make the map? -- Dual Freq 18:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, I'm changing the list to the 5 Illinois counties in the St. Louis MSA. According to the above link, Jersey county wasn't always part of the MSA, maybe in the future Washington county will be added, but right now it is not part of the MSA and also not part of Metro-East. -- Dual Freq 19:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Who decides which counties are included or not? Is this the state of Illinois? I find it interesting because Bond County is not mentioned, despite being closer in location to St. Louis than many of the areas (particularly in Clinton County) listed. Bond County does consider itself to be part of the Metro East and I have heard it described as such informally (covered in the Metro East section of the Post-Dispatch, for instance) and so it is odd that it is not included, yet areas 30 miles farther away from St. Louis are included. That's weird. Why can't the article include those counties which are often assumed to be part of it, while mentioning that they are not included in it by the statistical authority? That seems to be a more appropriate way to do it.-- Gloriamarie 19:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Just as with the Greater St Louis article, Monroe Countty is mysteriously missing! Monroe is a long-time part of the Metro East and of the St Louis MSA. But it doesn't get named as one of the five Metro East counties; the other four are listed, but Monroe isn't. It's even shown on the map insert!! Why is it not named? Why aren't its principal cities (Columbia and Waterloo) listed? Is this an intentional slight? 166.137.141.49 ( talk) 04:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
This whole article is messed up and needs to be fixed. 71.171.142.88 ( talk) 01:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I added Monroe County per the St. Louis MSA. Washington (IL) and Randolph (IL) is not on it because they are not on the MSA even though the Belleville News-Democrat considers both as part as the Metro-East. Kimmy78 ( talk) 00:58, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
One of the Silhouette First Love series books from the early 1980s was set in the Alton area, and makes various references to the landmarks that were in the area at the time. However, the title escapes me at the moment and while I still have that book I can't find it. Kimmy78 ( talk) 11:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
The comment about white flight being the primary contributor to the eastward shift in Metro East's population was taken out of context from the STLToday source. The original article states that a shift in both white and black populations has occurred. In fact, the same article attributes Belleville's population increase to an influx of black residents. The root cause of this population shift is due to an aging population and infrastructure, loss of jobs, businesses and services in the communities along the river. At the same time, the communities to the east tend to be a younger demographic and in a higher income bracket than those along the river. There are more jobs, shopping, and entertainment choices further east. New housing is very affordable and plentiful. It's not accurate to attribute this migration to "white flight", which infers that white residents have moved eastward to avoid contact with blacks. This is an incorrect generalization. Economic factors and quality of life are the true reasons for the shift. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.228.227.118 ( talk) 00:42, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Apparently the Illinois counties included in the St Louis MSA are now Bond, Calhoun, Clinton, Jersey, Macoupin, Madison, Monroe, and St. Clair. Should the article mention that Macoupin County etc. count, at least according to some definitions? Q·L· 1968 ☿ 20:45, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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I live in the area and I know what is considered part of Metro East and what isn't. I'm breaking up this page. This will take a lot of edits, so be patient.
Kimmy78 02:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
OK, this article originally listed 11 counties as Metro-east, now it lists 6 and St. Louis MSA includes 5 counties. Does anyone have a source for what exactly is Metro-east, not I live there so trust me, but an actual, verifiable source? Someone created Image:Metro-East location.gif, I was about to make an svg version, but I see that the definition has changed. Can someone tell me what counties to include so I can make the map? -- Dual Freq 18:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, I'm changing the list to the 5 Illinois counties in the St. Louis MSA. According to the above link, Jersey county wasn't always part of the MSA, maybe in the future Washington county will be added, but right now it is not part of the MSA and also not part of Metro-East. -- Dual Freq 19:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Who decides which counties are included or not? Is this the state of Illinois? I find it interesting because Bond County is not mentioned, despite being closer in location to St. Louis than many of the areas (particularly in Clinton County) listed. Bond County does consider itself to be part of the Metro East and I have heard it described as such informally (covered in the Metro East section of the Post-Dispatch, for instance) and so it is odd that it is not included, yet areas 30 miles farther away from St. Louis are included. That's weird. Why can't the article include those counties which are often assumed to be part of it, while mentioning that they are not included in it by the statistical authority? That seems to be a more appropriate way to do it.-- Gloriamarie 19:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Just as with the Greater St Louis article, Monroe Countty is mysteriously missing! Monroe is a long-time part of the Metro East and of the St Louis MSA. But it doesn't get named as one of the five Metro East counties; the other four are listed, but Monroe isn't. It's even shown on the map insert!! Why is it not named? Why aren't its principal cities (Columbia and Waterloo) listed? Is this an intentional slight? 166.137.141.49 ( talk) 04:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
This whole article is messed up and needs to be fixed. 71.171.142.88 ( talk) 01:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I added Monroe County per the St. Louis MSA. Washington (IL) and Randolph (IL) is not on it because they are not on the MSA even though the Belleville News-Democrat considers both as part as the Metro-East. Kimmy78 ( talk) 00:58, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
One of the Silhouette First Love series books from the early 1980s was set in the Alton area, and makes various references to the landmarks that were in the area at the time. However, the title escapes me at the moment and while I still have that book I can't find it. Kimmy78 ( talk) 11:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
The comment about white flight being the primary contributor to the eastward shift in Metro East's population was taken out of context from the STLToday source. The original article states that a shift in both white and black populations has occurred. In fact, the same article attributes Belleville's population increase to an influx of black residents. The root cause of this population shift is due to an aging population and infrastructure, loss of jobs, businesses and services in the communities along the river. At the same time, the communities to the east tend to be a younger demographic and in a higher income bracket than those along the river. There are more jobs, shopping, and entertainment choices further east. New housing is very affordable and plentiful. It's not accurate to attribute this migration to "white flight", which infers that white residents have moved eastward to avoid contact with blacks. This is an incorrect generalization. Economic factors and quality of life are the true reasons for the shift. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.228.227.118 ( talk) 00:42, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Apparently the Illinois counties included in the St Louis MSA are now Bond, Calhoun, Clinton, Jersey, Macoupin, Madison, Monroe, and St. Clair. Should the article mention that Macoupin County etc. count, at least according to some definitions? Q·L· 1968 ☿ 20:45, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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