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This article received its FA rating back in 2007, at a time when the standards at FAC were considerably more relaxed than they have since become. Looking through this article, it is apparent that it does not meet present FA standards; indeed, it may even struggle to reach GA status. There are various sentences throughout the article that are simply unreferenced; the formatting of the citations that are used are haphazard; various sections, such as "Township", are badly organised and full of stand alone sentences; and there is an over-reliance on free web sources as opposed to more expert, print sources. I appreciate that a lot of time and effort probably went into getting this to FA status back in the noughties, but it is now time that we send this along to featured article review. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 18:53, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Just to make sure people see this, please come participate in the feature article review discussion. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:39, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
The content below from the indicated sections was removed for various reasons, usually because of lack of citation. Please discuss these items in their sections below. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:52, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
The following content was removed because the mention was incidental or limited (such as to a single episode of a TV series, or a single scene in a film). These should be incorporated into the subject articles. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
This paragraph was removed because the references used are not verifiable (except for the one verifying the size of the lake):
These sentences were removed from the third paragraph (following "...慰霊塔 ("Soul Consoling Tower")."):
The following sentence was removed as sources have proven difficult to locate. (It was prior to "The Manzanar National Historic Site also unveiled its virtual museum..."):
Removed because they are apparently not reliable. Please feel free to comment on why or why not they are reliable. The name of the ref is in quotes, with the citation below that. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
These are the links in the External links section. There are far too many. Let's whittle them down a bit. Feel free to make comments under any specific links. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm thinking that "Owens Valley resources" might be better moved to the Manzanar, California article. The "Wartime-related resources" which are reliable secondary sources should be cited in the article; those which are primary sources should be kept as further reading. The Post-War-related resources looks like it has accumulated several books which are only tangentially related (if at all); I would axe most of it. b uidh e 04:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Buidhe, please specifically mark which ones you think should be kept as further reading and which should be used as references (if possible). Please give reasoning, if you can. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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I am not sure how to deal with memoirs, they are probably not WP:RS for our purposes here, and my inclination would be just copy them to the wikiarticles of their authors. If the author/book isn't notable, it probably isn't worth keeping. b uidh e 05:34, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Buidhe, please specifically mark which ones you think should be kept as further reading, which should be used as references (if possible), and which should be axed. Please give reasoning, if you can. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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The article states:
Since the September 11 attacks, American Muslims have participated in the Pilgrimage to promote and increase awareness of civil rights protections in the wake of widespread suspicions harbored against them post-9/11. [6] [7]
Is this still happening? Does anyone have articles more recent than 2008? ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:51, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
References
Buidhe provided this list of possible sources for use in improving the article:
Feel free to use any or all of them. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:08, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
The latest USNPS map of internment facilities includes a pointer to Cow Creek in Death Valley as a sort of intermediate/temporary jail short of sending people to Tule Lake. This is next to NPS employee housing and the DV Nat. Hist. Assoc.. 24.121.145.212 ( talk) 23:43, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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This article received its FA rating back in 2007, at a time when the standards at FAC were considerably more relaxed than they have since become. Looking through this article, it is apparent that it does not meet present FA standards; indeed, it may even struggle to reach GA status. There are various sentences throughout the article that are simply unreferenced; the formatting of the citations that are used are haphazard; various sections, such as "Township", are badly organised and full of stand alone sentences; and there is an over-reliance on free web sources as opposed to more expert, print sources. I appreciate that a lot of time and effort probably went into getting this to FA status back in the noughties, but it is now time that we send this along to featured article review. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 18:53, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Just to make sure people see this, please come participate in the feature article review discussion. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:39, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
The content below from the indicated sections was removed for various reasons, usually because of lack of citation. Please discuss these items in their sections below. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:52, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
The following content was removed because the mention was incidental or limited (such as to a single episode of a TV series, or a single scene in a film). These should be incorporated into the subject articles. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
This paragraph was removed because the references used are not verifiable (except for the one verifying the size of the lake):
These sentences were removed from the third paragraph (following "...慰霊塔 ("Soul Consoling Tower")."):
The following sentence was removed as sources have proven difficult to locate. (It was prior to "The Manzanar National Historic Site also unveiled its virtual museum..."):
Removed because they are apparently not reliable. Please feel free to comment on why or why not they are reliable. The name of the ref is in quotes, with the citation below that. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
These are the links in the External links section. There are far too many. Let's whittle them down a bit. Feel free to make comments under any specific links. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm thinking that "Owens Valley resources" might be better moved to the Manzanar, California article. The "Wartime-related resources" which are reliable secondary sources should be cited in the article; those which are primary sources should be kept as further reading. The Post-War-related resources looks like it has accumulated several books which are only tangentially related (if at all); I would axe most of it. b uidh e 04:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Buidhe, please specifically mark which ones you think should be kept as further reading and which should be used as references (if possible). Please give reasoning, if you can. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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I am not sure how to deal with memoirs, they are probably not WP:RS for our purposes here, and my inclination would be just copy them to the wikiarticles of their authors. If the author/book isn't notable, it probably isn't worth keeping. b uidh e 05:34, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Buidhe, please specifically mark which ones you think should be kept as further reading, which should be used as references (if possible), and which should be axed. Please give reasoning, if you can. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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The article states:
Since the September 11 attacks, American Muslims have participated in the Pilgrimage to promote and increase awareness of civil rights protections in the wake of widespread suspicions harbored against them post-9/11. [6] [7]
Is this still happening? Does anyone have articles more recent than 2008? ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:51, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
References
Buidhe provided this list of possible sources for use in improving the article:
Feel free to use any or all of them. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:08, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
The latest USNPS map of internment facilities includes a pointer to Cow Creek in Death Valley as a sort of intermediate/temporary jail short of sending people to Tule Lake. This is next to NPS employee housing and the DV Nat. Hist. Assoc.. 24.121.145.212 ( talk) 23:43, 30 December 2022 (UTC)