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Regards, -- X-Weinzar ( talk) 23:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
This article will be a featured article in a few days and there's no photo of him in uniform? Are there any free ones out there? DavidRF ( talk) 22:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Is this a coincidence? Do you coordinate these things?
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Why isn't there any images of Magic playing in this article? Burningview ( talk) 13:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
What about: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafamado/2717299999/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.123.130.95 ( talk) 08:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
The image indicates that it is a photo of Magic from 1987, however he is clean shaven in the picture. I am a long-time Lakers fan, and watched Magic play throughout the 1980's. It wasn't until a couple of years later that Magic decided to get rid of the signature goatee that he wore during much of the prime of his career. The following article from SI appears to support that it was indeed the spring of 1989 that he made that change: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1068404/index.htm
Of course, that doesn't help us specifically identify the date of the photo, but it seems safe to assume that it's from the time period from 1989-1991. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.185.148.90 ( talk) 18:35, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, let me first say that I am HIV+ myself and one of the companies mentioned in the article makes one of the drugs that have been saving my life for more than a decade now. None the less I find it irrelevant at best to specify who makes the drugs Magic Johnson takes. To me it is obvious hiding an ad in an article.
The formulation I am talking about is: To prevent his HIV infection from becoming AIDS, Johnson takes a daily combination of drugs from GlaxoSmithKline and Abbott Laboratories.
It could instead have said something like: To prevent his HIV infection from becoming AIDS, Johnson receives combination therapy [with a link to an article on the matter which is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAART ].
The fact that Magic Johnson is promoting these companies is irrelevant to what medication he takes. These two subjects doesn't belong together. In fact HIV-medication can have very serious and deadly complications and long term adverse affects such as cardiac problems and cancer. Nobody in his right mind takes drugs based on a promotional deal but on sound medical advice. I guess that goes for Magic Johnson as well.
To be clear I don't see any problem mentioning what ever promotion he is involved in like the following setence: He has advertised GlaxoSmithKline's drugs,[92] and partnered with Abbott Laboratories to publicize the fight against AIDS in African American communities.
But I do see a problem in connecting specific companies to whatever his current treatment regime is within a wikipedia article. It is simply not relevant.
( Babediba ( talk) 14:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC))
Why is there nothing here about his entrepreneurship? I have an article backing it up but don't know how best to incorporate it. http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/entre/2008-12-07-magic-johnson-urban-business_N.htm BenW ( talk) 07:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Johnson, along with former Ohio State running back Archie Griffin, is an owner of the Cincinnati Reds Class-A affiliate Dayton Dragons minor league baseball team. http://espn.go.com/minor-league-baseball/story/_/id/6796623/dayton-dragons-celebrate-record-sellout-streak Jcnewt01 ( talk) 04:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
In July of 2011, Johnson announced that he would be joining Detroit Venture Partners (DVP) as a general partner. DVP is a Detroit, Michigan based venture capital firm that invests in seed and early-stage technology companies primarily located in the heart of downtown Detroit. Johnson also committed to investing an undisclosed multi-million dollar amount into the investment fund. [1] Alexlinebrink ( talk) 13:58, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
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Are you sure that's the duration of the contract fron 1981? Maybe it's 5-year contract? Please reply me. YHYH ( talk) 17:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Johnson is heavily featured in the AIDS-related story of South Park Season 12, Episode 1 "Tonsil Trouble". Johnson did not himself participate. 70.123.130.95 ( talk) 08:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I added Magic's jersey retirement in the infobox as it is in Kareem's, but Kareem may be a special case since his jersey was retired *by two teams*. LUxlii ( talk) 16:42, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
In this section, Magic is listed as having had 5 blocks against the San Antonio Spurs on Dec 23, 1986. However, he played Sacramento that night as shown by the other career highs he had on Dec 23rd, 1986 in Sacramento and on http://www.sacbee.com/2011/02/23/3425613/gallery-the-sacramento-kings-greatest.html This page lists him as having 0 blocks that night. Could anyone find out if he had his 5 blocks against San Antonio on a different night? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.163.19 ( talk) 20:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
I followed one of the links to "Dream Team" and didn't find what I was looking for. These should be changed to point to 1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team instead, since that is an article about, well, the Dream Team. 178.73.222.119 ( talk) 14:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
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Rivalry with Magic Johnson Johnson and Larry Bird were first linked as rivals after Johnson's Michigan State squad defeated Bird's Indiana State team in the 1979 NCAA finals. The rivalry continued in the NBA, and reached its climax when Boston and Los Angeles met in three out of four NBA Finals from 1984 to 1987. Johnson asserted that for him, the 82-game regular season was composed of 80 normal games, and two Lakers–Celtics games. Similarly, Bird admitted that Johnson's daily box score was the first thing he checked in the morning.[80] Several journalists hypothesized that the Johnson–Bird rivalry was so appealing because it represented many other contrasts, such as the clash between the Lakers and Celtics, between Hollywood flashiness ("Showtime") and Boston/Indiana blue collar grit ("Celtic Pride"), and between blacks and whites.[109][110] The rivalry was also significant because it drew national attention to the faltering NBA. Prior to Johnson and Bird's arrival, the NBA had gone through a decade of declining interest and low TV ratings.[111] With the two future Hall of Famers, the league won a whole generation of new fans,[112] drawing both traditionalist adherents of Bird's dirt court Indiana game and those appreciative of Johnson's public park flair. Sports journalist Larry Schwartz of ESPN asserted that Johnson and Bird saved the NBA from bankruptcy.[12] Despite their on-court rivalry, Johnson and Bird became close friends during the filming of a 1984 Converse shoe advertisement that depicted them as enemies.[113][114] Johnson appeared at Bird's retirement ceremony in 1992, and described Bird as a "friend forever";[80] during Johnson's Hall of Fame ceremony, Bird formally inducted his old rival.[112]
24.104.32.5 ( talk) 19:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
QUESTION: This section of TALK is now olde; where do we stand? Just asking, Charles Edwin Shipp ( talk) 12:35, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
To name but a few errors - Sexton High School was never ALL-black (African-American) nor ALL-white (caucasian), instead, perhaps it was "largely" or "significantly" one or the other (stay away from absolutes unless you know that it was indeed 100% this or that)... very sloppy and misleading draftsmanship. Another issue - Magic Johnson did not "return" to the Breslin Center as it did not exist when he was at MSU. It was built a decade after he left. It is fair to say that he "returned to MSU to play at the Breslin Center..." but not that he returned to his old arena which the Breslin Center is not. I have not taken a closer look but, if I did, I am confident that I would find other errors or sloppy details in this article... Please correct.
In the barnstorming section, it reads that he both played with the Canberra Cannons, and also defeated them. In fact, they defeated the Michigan State Spartans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.109.198 ( talk) 14:34, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Other than one dead link, is the current version flawed right now? -- George Ho ( talk) 08:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be more content and game specifics regarding his touring with Magic Johnson All-Stars than, say, his 85–86 MVP season. A bit surprising for an FA the less-than-comprehensive details here. Even his college-like enthusiasm in his first NBA game is missing, and his close relationship with Jerry Buss.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:50, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Is there a good source for the actual number of Magic's siblings. I have seen from 6 to 9 brothers and sisters for him. [[D-free]] ( talk) 23:05, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Magic has claimed he has had sexual intercourse with somewhere between 1,000 and 20,000 women. This deserves a mention as people may mistakenly paint this saintly picture of him and because it will explain better why his chances of contracting HIV were much higher than that of an average person.
Is it possible that Johnson was misdiagnosed due the 50/50 accuracy of the HIV test? Gnostics ( talk) 16:32, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
It says in the lead, his "bravery" was commended. This is a very subjective term. Whether he was brave or not is completely one's opinion. This should be rephrased.-- 2607:FB90:2305:60CA:0:4D:6F26:9701 ( talk) 01:55, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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Why is there no mention of Doe V. Johnson where he was sued by Jane Doe after having sex without informing her he was HIV positive?
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Could someone please add the category African-American Christians to the page? Thank you. - 108.71.133.201 ( talk) 22:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
I just found out that "Magic" is on the Board of Directors of Square Inc [1]. Maybe you should consider adding this to the article
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The first, of the Michigan State University section, is both consistent with how Johnson's freshman season there was treated and legitimate on its own merits.
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Any assistance on these two edits would be most helpful. 71.233.84.208 ( talk) 19:25, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
I am going to remove the position "power forward" as Johnson was overwhelmingly known as a point hard. He occasionally lined up at the 4, but in truth he played briefly at all 5 positions on the court. But he's rightly known as one of the best point guards ever, and as someone who redefined the position. Rikster2 ( talk) 22:14, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
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In 2016 Johnson endorsed democratic candidate Hillary Clinton for president via Twitter tweeting out a picture of himself and his wife with the candidate saying "My wife @cjbycookie and I with the next President of the United States"
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As editors here are agreed that the article fails two of the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria (1b comprehensiveness and 2b structure), should the article be taken to Wikipedia:Featured article review? DrKay ( talk) 10:56, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
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I think that we should add the nickname on the sidebar. TheJackBasket777 ( talk) 17:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Can one of y’all substitute the 2nd sentence for this: “Johnson was rated the greatest NBA point guard of all time by ESPN in 2007.”[6] Or just incorporate that statement so the audience can see it first when they look up Magic Johnson. AfroWorld33 ( talk) 07:44, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Why are we removing the list of awards and honors received by Magic Johnson - especially when each and every one of them were sourced?
Looks to me like Sabbatino just has a personal issue with me, and thinks that he is better than me...this is just like the Cavs article...he flipped out over my edits there too. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:41, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Sabbatino If anybody is hounding anybody, you are hounding me. I find it very interesting that any time I make an edit to a basketball related article, you are right there almost in my back pocket coming out of the weeds and instantly reverting me. It almost feels like you appointed yourself the Big Daddy Grand Poobah of all basketball articles, and no one else can play in your sandbox. And you can quote WP:whatever all day long...street smarts and the smell test say it's you who has an issue with me because I dare to enter your "kingdom". Vjmlhds (talk) 17:20, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
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Change 10 NBA championships to 11. Magic Johnson has 11 NBA Championships as of 12/26/2020 per his latest Instagram and Twitter posts, not 10 as the page currently says. https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1342897649532416001 Caleb.longenecker1 ( talk) 21:30, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
How can a big strapping guy who is 6-9" tall weigh only 220 lbs? That does not make sense. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
@ Garnhami: I see that you restored text to the lead that Johnson is "generally considered to be one of the greatest players in NBA history". To the casual reader, it's redundant to him being in the Hall of Fame or being named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History. I'm going to guess that you're trying to imply that he's in the top-5 or 10 or on the "Mount Rushmore" of basketball, but that's not how that reads. More nuanced rankings, outside of saying someone is "the greatest", are probably better explained in the body, rather than repeating what being in the HOF or among the 50 Greatest already implies.03:54, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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Under NBA legacy, it is stated that Johnson is second all time in triple-doubles only to Oscar Robertson but on October 26th 2019 Johnson was surpassed by Russell Westbrook. 67.193.76.146 ( talk) 00:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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i need to edit this page 108.31.249.125 ( talk) 16:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Greetings:
I see under POLITICS that
"Johnson is a supporter of the Democratic Party. In 2006, he publicly endorsed Phil Angelides for Governor of California."
There is no mention of Johnson's political affiliation from before 2006. In a Washington Post article about conservatives who are now touting a specious comparison of NBA player Kyrie Irving's refusal to get C-19 vaccination with Magic Johnson's playing basketball in the 1990s with HIV, one of the reader commenters wrote that Johnson used to be a Republican. Is there information about this? He has never sounded like one to me whenever I've seen him speak about politics.
Thank you for your time, Wordreader ( talk) 00:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm gonna post on the talkpages of NBA and NFL projects since this can potentially impact both projects to refer to this. For athletes like Magic, Aaron Rodgers, and Russell Wilson who have all purchased minority stakes in professional sports teams who won a championship during their minority ownership, should these championships be included in career highlights section of the infobox and/or the awards section along with championships won in their sports, MVPs, all-star games/pro bowls, etc.? I posted a discussion on NFL talk a while back and got no response and had a borderline edit war with another editor after another editor who added these things to Aaron Rodgers page after the Bucks won the finals and we didn't go anywhere trying to discuss this. I've seen other editors remove these things indicating some editors don't think they should be included. My argument against these inclusions is minority ownership in a sports team is literally no different than investing in stocks. You invest a little bit of money and can get some back based on profits. Minority owners rarely, if ever, have any say in roster, front office, and coaching staff decisions. It's also not even clear, from what I can find, if minority owners get championship rings. Should it be mentioned in the article period? Of course, but it should be left in sections talking about the investment, not in places discussing their playing or coaching accomplishments. Now this obviously doesn't apply to someone like Michael Jordan who is the primary owner and makes roster and personnel decisions, just specifically minority owners. I feel this should be established now as minority stakes seem to be a popular investment for athletes now.--Rockchalk 7 17 22:36, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance.A championship as a minority owner is rarely defining. As part of the lead, its inclusion would also run contrary to MOS:LEADBIO:
The lead section should summarise the life and works of the person with due weight.— Bagumba ( talk) 08:25, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
If you were looking for verification, you must not have looked very far, because here's Russell Wilson's ring from the Seattle Sounders after winning the MLS Cup...BTW the reference is in Wilson's article. And if you actually look through Aaron Rodgers' and Magic Johnson's articles instead of just blindly deleting things, you'd see those references to verify the rings. You are just proving my point...the accolades achieved in their side jobs don't meet your standards of what a championship is. Not Wiki's job to decide what title is more important than others. Do they have the award, and can you prove it - everything else is irrelevant, because it's all subjective. Vjmlhds (talk) 13:36, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
For Magic Johnson#Awards and honors, assuming the owner championships meet WP:DUE, it seems promotional to combine as "10-time NBA champion (five as a player, five as owner/executive", as oppose to solely individual listings by role.— Bagumba ( talk) 02:50, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
another log on the fire Vjmlhds (talk) 05:31, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Surprising or apparently important claims not covered by multiple mainstream sources— Bagumba ( talk) 05:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Challenge accepted -
[1] [2] [3] [4] - Here's 4 regarding Aaron Rodgers (from Yahoo, CBS Sports, ESPN, and NESN - which by the way are all in his article). Here's one from USA Today regarding Russell Wilson and the Sounders, and here's one from ABC News where they credit Magic as a 10-time NBA Champion. Here is Wilson's ring he received from the Sounders... ... and Magic with his World Series ring he got from the Dodgers. All told, that makes 6 mainstream media outlets all recognizing Magic, Rodgers, and Wilson as champions in their side gigs, as well as physical proof that they did get actual rings with their names on them from the teams...outside of signing a contract in blood, what more could you want? Vjmlhds (talk) 05:56, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
While information must be verifiable for inclusion in an article, not all verifiable information must be included. Consensus may determine that certain information does not improve an article.Consensus determines content.— Bagumba ( talk) 06:04, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
The whole issue started because on editor didn't view championships credited via ownership (especially minority ownership) on the same level as those as credited via being a player. When you talk about ONUS, that is basically saying that no matter how many sources one provides to verify a claim, we (Wikipedians) decide what can and can't get included based on our own preferences. That in many ways leads to slippery slopes, because if consensus says the sky is yellow and the sun is blue, it doesn't mean it is. A lot of Wiki policies contradict each other, and users then cite whichever one best suits them, and uses it almost as a loophole to void an opposing policy. ONUS contradicts NPOV in that one can insert their own take under the guise of ONUS, NPOV means you are simply stating claims that are made with references to back them up. In many ways, Wikipedia has so many policies, they wind up canceling each other out, which then leaves it up to consensus where the users themselves make calls based on their own viewpoints - kinda like gaming the system. Just wondering...is that how Britannicia works? Truthfully, this didn't need THIS much discussion, because merely listing awards and honors is simply documenting accolades one has attained/been credited with throughout their lives (with the proof to verify it). Wikipedia and especially Wikipedians should not be the arbiters of which ones are more important than others, because it's not our job to do so. Wikpedians can't and shouldn't play judge, jury, executioner, doctor, or God. Our job is to simply find info, make sure it's verifiable, and include it to give the subject of the article the most accurate picture we can. Going into all these other directions is simply us going into lanes we shouldn't. Vjmlhds (talk) 15:08, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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Should we add "Often compared with Stephen Curry" in the same sentence in the lead as "He is often regarded as the greatest point guard of all-time." or not? Here are some sources for the comparison.
https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/stephen-curry-vs-magic-johnson-career-highs-comparison
https://www.strictlybythenumbers.com/compare/stephen_curry_vs_magic_johnson
Thanks! MasterMatt12 💬 ● Contributions 16:34, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Ambiguous statement in the introduction. Were the players protesting against Johnson (for example, saying he didn't deserve the MVP award) or in support of him (for example, saying he was risking his health by returning to play)? Billfalls ( talk) 00:00, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
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B&W photo of Pat Riley and Magic Johnson incorrectly identifies the third person in the photo as Jerry West. That individual is not Jerry West, and that citation should be removed. Goyato ( talk) 00:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Pat Riley, Earvin "Magic" Johnson and Jerry West at the Century Plaza, Century City, 1989ARandomName123 ( talk)Ping me! 00:32, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Should be added that he is a billionaire according to Forbes.com & CNN ( [2], [3]). 65.88.88.56 ( talk) 22:09, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
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This article will be a featured article in a few days and there's no photo of him in uniform? Are there any free ones out there? DavidRF ( talk) 22:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Is this a coincidence? Do you coordinate these things?
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Why isn't there any images of Magic playing in this article? Burningview ( talk) 13:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
What about: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafamado/2717299999/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.123.130.95 ( talk) 08:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
The image indicates that it is a photo of Magic from 1987, however he is clean shaven in the picture. I am a long-time Lakers fan, and watched Magic play throughout the 1980's. It wasn't until a couple of years later that Magic decided to get rid of the signature goatee that he wore during much of the prime of his career. The following article from SI appears to support that it was indeed the spring of 1989 that he made that change: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1068404/index.htm
Of course, that doesn't help us specifically identify the date of the photo, but it seems safe to assume that it's from the time period from 1989-1991. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.185.148.90 ( talk) 18:35, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, let me first say that I am HIV+ myself and one of the companies mentioned in the article makes one of the drugs that have been saving my life for more than a decade now. None the less I find it irrelevant at best to specify who makes the drugs Magic Johnson takes. To me it is obvious hiding an ad in an article.
The formulation I am talking about is: To prevent his HIV infection from becoming AIDS, Johnson takes a daily combination of drugs from GlaxoSmithKline and Abbott Laboratories.
It could instead have said something like: To prevent his HIV infection from becoming AIDS, Johnson receives combination therapy [with a link to an article on the matter which is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAART ].
The fact that Magic Johnson is promoting these companies is irrelevant to what medication he takes. These two subjects doesn't belong together. In fact HIV-medication can have very serious and deadly complications and long term adverse affects such as cardiac problems and cancer. Nobody in his right mind takes drugs based on a promotional deal but on sound medical advice. I guess that goes for Magic Johnson as well.
To be clear I don't see any problem mentioning what ever promotion he is involved in like the following setence: He has advertised GlaxoSmithKline's drugs,[92] and partnered with Abbott Laboratories to publicize the fight against AIDS in African American communities.
But I do see a problem in connecting specific companies to whatever his current treatment regime is within a wikipedia article. It is simply not relevant.
( Babediba ( talk) 14:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC))
Why is there nothing here about his entrepreneurship? I have an article backing it up but don't know how best to incorporate it. http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/entre/2008-12-07-magic-johnson-urban-business_N.htm BenW ( talk) 07:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Johnson, along with former Ohio State running back Archie Griffin, is an owner of the Cincinnati Reds Class-A affiliate Dayton Dragons minor league baseball team. http://espn.go.com/minor-league-baseball/story/_/id/6796623/dayton-dragons-celebrate-record-sellout-streak Jcnewt01 ( talk) 04:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
In July of 2011, Johnson announced that he would be joining Detroit Venture Partners (DVP) as a general partner. DVP is a Detroit, Michigan based venture capital firm that invests in seed and early-stage technology companies primarily located in the heart of downtown Detroit. Johnson also committed to investing an undisclosed multi-million dollar amount into the investment fund. [1] Alexlinebrink ( talk) 13:58, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
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Are you sure that's the duration of the contract fron 1981? Maybe it's 5-year contract? Please reply me. YHYH ( talk) 17:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Johnson is heavily featured in the AIDS-related story of South Park Season 12, Episode 1 "Tonsil Trouble". Johnson did not himself participate. 70.123.130.95 ( talk) 08:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I added Magic's jersey retirement in the infobox as it is in Kareem's, but Kareem may be a special case since his jersey was retired *by two teams*. LUxlii ( talk) 16:42, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
In this section, Magic is listed as having had 5 blocks against the San Antonio Spurs on Dec 23, 1986. However, he played Sacramento that night as shown by the other career highs he had on Dec 23rd, 1986 in Sacramento and on http://www.sacbee.com/2011/02/23/3425613/gallery-the-sacramento-kings-greatest.html This page lists him as having 0 blocks that night. Could anyone find out if he had his 5 blocks against San Antonio on a different night? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.163.19 ( talk) 20:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
I followed one of the links to "Dream Team" and didn't find what I was looking for. These should be changed to point to 1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team instead, since that is an article about, well, the Dream Team. 178.73.222.119 ( talk) 14:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
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Rivalry with Magic Johnson Johnson and Larry Bird were first linked as rivals after Johnson's Michigan State squad defeated Bird's Indiana State team in the 1979 NCAA finals. The rivalry continued in the NBA, and reached its climax when Boston and Los Angeles met in three out of four NBA Finals from 1984 to 1987. Johnson asserted that for him, the 82-game regular season was composed of 80 normal games, and two Lakers–Celtics games. Similarly, Bird admitted that Johnson's daily box score was the first thing he checked in the morning.[80] Several journalists hypothesized that the Johnson–Bird rivalry was so appealing because it represented many other contrasts, such as the clash between the Lakers and Celtics, between Hollywood flashiness ("Showtime") and Boston/Indiana blue collar grit ("Celtic Pride"), and between blacks and whites.[109][110] The rivalry was also significant because it drew national attention to the faltering NBA. Prior to Johnson and Bird's arrival, the NBA had gone through a decade of declining interest and low TV ratings.[111] With the two future Hall of Famers, the league won a whole generation of new fans,[112] drawing both traditionalist adherents of Bird's dirt court Indiana game and those appreciative of Johnson's public park flair. Sports journalist Larry Schwartz of ESPN asserted that Johnson and Bird saved the NBA from bankruptcy.[12] Despite their on-court rivalry, Johnson and Bird became close friends during the filming of a 1984 Converse shoe advertisement that depicted them as enemies.[113][114] Johnson appeared at Bird's retirement ceremony in 1992, and described Bird as a "friend forever";[80] during Johnson's Hall of Fame ceremony, Bird formally inducted his old rival.[112]
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QUESTION: This section of TALK is now olde; where do we stand? Just asking, Charles Edwin Shipp ( talk) 12:35, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
To name but a few errors - Sexton High School was never ALL-black (African-American) nor ALL-white (caucasian), instead, perhaps it was "largely" or "significantly" one or the other (stay away from absolutes unless you know that it was indeed 100% this or that)... very sloppy and misleading draftsmanship. Another issue - Magic Johnson did not "return" to the Breslin Center as it did not exist when he was at MSU. It was built a decade after he left. It is fair to say that he "returned to MSU to play at the Breslin Center..." but not that he returned to his old arena which the Breslin Center is not. I have not taken a closer look but, if I did, I am confident that I would find other errors or sloppy details in this article... Please correct.
In the barnstorming section, it reads that he both played with the Canberra Cannons, and also defeated them. In fact, they defeated the Michigan State Spartans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.109.198 ( talk) 14:34, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Other than one dead link, is the current version flawed right now? -- George Ho ( talk) 08:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be more content and game specifics regarding his touring with Magic Johnson All-Stars than, say, his 85–86 MVP season. A bit surprising for an FA the less-than-comprehensive details here. Even his college-like enthusiasm in his first NBA game is missing, and his close relationship with Jerry Buss.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:50, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Is there a good source for the actual number of Magic's siblings. I have seen from 6 to 9 brothers and sisters for him. [[D-free]] ( talk) 23:05, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Magic has claimed he has had sexual intercourse with somewhere between 1,000 and 20,000 women. This deserves a mention as people may mistakenly paint this saintly picture of him and because it will explain better why his chances of contracting HIV were much higher than that of an average person.
Is it possible that Johnson was misdiagnosed due the 50/50 accuracy of the HIV test? Gnostics ( talk) 16:32, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
It says in the lead, his "bravery" was commended. This is a very subjective term. Whether he was brave or not is completely one's opinion. This should be rephrased.-- 2607:FB90:2305:60CA:0:4D:6F26:9701 ( talk) 01:55, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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Why is there no mention of Doe V. Johnson where he was sued by Jane Doe after having sex without informing her he was HIV positive?
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Could someone please add the category African-American Christians to the page? Thank you. - 108.71.133.201 ( talk) 22:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
I just found out that "Magic" is on the Board of Directors of Square Inc [1]. Maybe you should consider adding this to the article
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Any assistance on these two edits would be most helpful. 71.233.84.208 ( talk) 19:25, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
I am going to remove the position "power forward" as Johnson was overwhelmingly known as a point hard. He occasionally lined up at the 4, but in truth he played briefly at all 5 positions on the court. But he's rightly known as one of the best point guards ever, and as someone who redefined the position. Rikster2 ( talk) 22:14, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
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In 2016 Johnson endorsed democratic candidate Hillary Clinton for president via Twitter tweeting out a picture of himself and his wife with the candidate saying "My wife @cjbycookie and I with the next President of the United States"
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As editors here are agreed that the article fails two of the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria (1b comprehensiveness and 2b structure), should the article be taken to Wikipedia:Featured article review? DrKay ( talk) 10:56, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
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I think that we should add the nickname on the sidebar. TheJackBasket777 ( talk) 17:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Can one of y’all substitute the 2nd sentence for this: “Johnson was rated the greatest NBA point guard of all time by ESPN in 2007.”[6] Or just incorporate that statement so the audience can see it first when they look up Magic Johnson. AfroWorld33 ( talk) 07:44, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Why are we removing the list of awards and honors received by Magic Johnson - especially when each and every one of them were sourced?
Looks to me like Sabbatino just has a personal issue with me, and thinks that he is better than me...this is just like the Cavs article...he flipped out over my edits there too. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:41, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Sabbatino If anybody is hounding anybody, you are hounding me. I find it very interesting that any time I make an edit to a basketball related article, you are right there almost in my back pocket coming out of the weeds and instantly reverting me. It almost feels like you appointed yourself the Big Daddy Grand Poobah of all basketball articles, and no one else can play in your sandbox. And you can quote WP:whatever all day long...street smarts and the smell test say it's you who has an issue with me because I dare to enter your "kingdom". Vjmlhds (talk) 17:20, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
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Change 10 NBA championships to 11. Magic Johnson has 11 NBA Championships as of 12/26/2020 per his latest Instagram and Twitter posts, not 10 as the page currently says. https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1342897649532416001 Caleb.longenecker1 ( talk) 21:30, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
How can a big strapping guy who is 6-9" tall weigh only 220 lbs? That does not make sense. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
@ Garnhami: I see that you restored text to the lead that Johnson is "generally considered to be one of the greatest players in NBA history". To the casual reader, it's redundant to him being in the Hall of Fame or being named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History. I'm going to guess that you're trying to imply that he's in the top-5 or 10 or on the "Mount Rushmore" of basketball, but that's not how that reads. More nuanced rankings, outside of saying someone is "the greatest", are probably better explained in the body, rather than repeating what being in the HOF or among the 50 Greatest already implies.03:54, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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Under NBA legacy, it is stated that Johnson is second all time in triple-doubles only to Oscar Robertson but on October 26th 2019 Johnson was surpassed by Russell Westbrook. 67.193.76.146 ( talk) 00:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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i need to edit this page 108.31.249.125 ( talk) 16:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Greetings:
I see under POLITICS that
"Johnson is a supporter of the Democratic Party. In 2006, he publicly endorsed Phil Angelides for Governor of California."
There is no mention of Johnson's political affiliation from before 2006. In a Washington Post article about conservatives who are now touting a specious comparison of NBA player Kyrie Irving's refusal to get C-19 vaccination with Magic Johnson's playing basketball in the 1990s with HIV, one of the reader commenters wrote that Johnson used to be a Republican. Is there information about this? He has never sounded like one to me whenever I've seen him speak about politics.
Thank you for your time, Wordreader ( talk) 00:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm gonna post on the talkpages of NBA and NFL projects since this can potentially impact both projects to refer to this. For athletes like Magic, Aaron Rodgers, and Russell Wilson who have all purchased minority stakes in professional sports teams who won a championship during their minority ownership, should these championships be included in career highlights section of the infobox and/or the awards section along with championships won in their sports, MVPs, all-star games/pro bowls, etc.? I posted a discussion on NFL talk a while back and got no response and had a borderline edit war with another editor after another editor who added these things to Aaron Rodgers page after the Bucks won the finals and we didn't go anywhere trying to discuss this. I've seen other editors remove these things indicating some editors don't think they should be included. My argument against these inclusions is minority ownership in a sports team is literally no different than investing in stocks. You invest a little bit of money and can get some back based on profits. Minority owners rarely, if ever, have any say in roster, front office, and coaching staff decisions. It's also not even clear, from what I can find, if minority owners get championship rings. Should it be mentioned in the article period? Of course, but it should be left in sections talking about the investment, not in places discussing their playing or coaching accomplishments. Now this obviously doesn't apply to someone like Michael Jordan who is the primary owner and makes roster and personnel decisions, just specifically minority owners. I feel this should be established now as minority stakes seem to be a popular investment for athletes now.--Rockchalk 7 17 22:36, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance.A championship as a minority owner is rarely defining. As part of the lead, its inclusion would also run contrary to MOS:LEADBIO:
The lead section should summarise the life and works of the person with due weight.— Bagumba ( talk) 08:25, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
If you were looking for verification, you must not have looked very far, because here's Russell Wilson's ring from the Seattle Sounders after winning the MLS Cup...BTW the reference is in Wilson's article. And if you actually look through Aaron Rodgers' and Magic Johnson's articles instead of just blindly deleting things, you'd see those references to verify the rings. You are just proving my point...the accolades achieved in their side jobs don't meet your standards of what a championship is. Not Wiki's job to decide what title is more important than others. Do they have the award, and can you prove it - everything else is irrelevant, because it's all subjective. Vjmlhds (talk) 13:36, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
For Magic Johnson#Awards and honors, assuming the owner championships meet WP:DUE, it seems promotional to combine as "10-time NBA champion (five as a player, five as owner/executive", as oppose to solely individual listings by role.— Bagumba ( talk) 02:50, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
another log on the fire Vjmlhds (talk) 05:31, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Surprising or apparently important claims not covered by multiple mainstream sources— Bagumba ( talk) 05:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Challenge accepted -
[1] [2] [3] [4] - Here's 4 regarding Aaron Rodgers (from Yahoo, CBS Sports, ESPN, and NESN - which by the way are all in his article). Here's one from USA Today regarding Russell Wilson and the Sounders, and here's one from ABC News where they credit Magic as a 10-time NBA Champion. Here is Wilson's ring he received from the Sounders... ... and Magic with his World Series ring he got from the Dodgers. All told, that makes 6 mainstream media outlets all recognizing Magic, Rodgers, and Wilson as champions in their side gigs, as well as physical proof that they did get actual rings with their names on them from the teams...outside of signing a contract in blood, what more could you want? Vjmlhds (talk) 05:56, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
While information must be verifiable for inclusion in an article, not all verifiable information must be included. Consensus may determine that certain information does not improve an article.Consensus determines content.— Bagumba ( talk) 06:04, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
The whole issue started because on editor didn't view championships credited via ownership (especially minority ownership) on the same level as those as credited via being a player. When you talk about ONUS, that is basically saying that no matter how many sources one provides to verify a claim, we (Wikipedians) decide what can and can't get included based on our own preferences. That in many ways leads to slippery slopes, because if consensus says the sky is yellow and the sun is blue, it doesn't mean it is. A lot of Wiki policies contradict each other, and users then cite whichever one best suits them, and uses it almost as a loophole to void an opposing policy. ONUS contradicts NPOV in that one can insert their own take under the guise of ONUS, NPOV means you are simply stating claims that are made with references to back them up. In many ways, Wikipedia has so many policies, they wind up canceling each other out, which then leaves it up to consensus where the users themselves make calls based on their own viewpoints - kinda like gaming the system. Just wondering...is that how Britannicia works? Truthfully, this didn't need THIS much discussion, because merely listing awards and honors is simply documenting accolades one has attained/been credited with throughout their lives (with the proof to verify it). Wikipedia and especially Wikipedians should not be the arbiters of which ones are more important than others, because it's not our job to do so. Wikpedians can't and shouldn't play judge, jury, executioner, doctor, or God. Our job is to simply find info, make sure it's verifiable, and include it to give the subject of the article the most accurate picture we can. Going into all these other directions is simply us going into lanes we shouldn't. Vjmlhds (talk) 15:08, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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Should we add "Often compared with Stephen Curry" in the same sentence in the lead as "He is often regarded as the greatest point guard of all-time." or not? Here are some sources for the comparison.
https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/stephen-curry-vs-magic-johnson-career-highs-comparison
https://www.strictlybythenumbers.com/compare/stephen_curry_vs_magic_johnson
Thanks! MasterMatt12 💬 ● Contributions 16:34, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Ambiguous statement in the introduction. Were the players protesting against Johnson (for example, saying he didn't deserve the MVP award) or in support of him (for example, saying he was risking his health by returning to play)? Billfalls ( talk) 00:00, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
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B&W photo of Pat Riley and Magic Johnson incorrectly identifies the third person in the photo as Jerry West. That individual is not Jerry West, and that citation should be removed. Goyato ( talk) 00:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Pat Riley, Earvin "Magic" Johnson and Jerry West at the Century Plaza, Century City, 1989ARandomName123 ( talk)Ping me! 00:32, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Should be added that he is a billionaire according to Forbes.com & CNN ( [2], [3]). 65.88.88.56 ( talk) 22:09, 20 December 2023 (UTC)