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There's currently a template on the article calling Lightfoot's notability into question. Prior to Mayor Emanuel's withdrawal, Lightfoot was polling above 10% in a Chicago mayoral election where no candidate was polling above ~20%. And as of July, Lightfoot had raised more funds than anyone else. Billbrock ( talk) 16:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC) Also see this Chicago Sun-Times article (obviously name recognition is an issue for her). 16:59, 14 September 2018 (UTC) Billbrock ( talk) 17:00, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
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Please capitalize the section 2019 mayoral candidate to 2019 Mayoral Candidate 12.178.189.58 ( talk) 15:51, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Do we have any way of getting a better photo of her? Anecdotally, a lot of sources seem to be using the same photo we have. She'll be appearing in public a lot over the next month or so... Dotdh15 ( talk) 17:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Is this image really appropriate for the page? It's very low quality and the supporter has more of a presence than Lightfoot. Spengouli ( talk) 12:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps using an image from her victory or at a debate is better. This image is old and I believe she does not wear glasses anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.133.85.73 ( talk) 18:46, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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Lori Lightfoots is a large supporter of Marxists ideologies. 204.237.88.38 ( talk) 11:37, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Lightfoot married her wife in 2014. Via this article https://www.the-sun.com/news/2732064/who-is-lori-lightfoots-wife-amy-eshleman/. Hope this helps! Ted7434 ( talk) 19:05, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Why is the location Chicago not in a hyperlink anywhere in the article? Other locations are in a hyperlink in the article, why isn't Chicago? It looks like bad. Can this be fixed? 2600:8801:1301:1900:E939:342C:402:1E3D ( talk) 12:39, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Lightfoot article Needs a criticism section. 2603:9001:6C0D:3600:51C2:AA66:4868:E21F ( talk) 03:11, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
In the paragraph on Crime it says: As of June 17, Chicago leads the nation in mass shootings, average approximately one per week. In response to the third mass shooting in four days, Lightfoot said: "We are part of a club of cities to which no one wants to belong: cities with mass shootings."
average should be averaging 2001:4BB8:2A7:2939:8580:66F3:8472:975E ( talk) 11:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Undid revision 1106903517 by Muboshgu ( talk)
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Edited section on 7th Circuit’s reprimand of her for professional misconduct to accurately reflect facts and content of source material.
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Moboshgu reverted citing “NPOV failed.” I took a quick look at NPOV and didn’t see any basis. Please provide detail.
In changing the Honors, Awards, etc section title to “Honors and Dishonors,” I feel NPOV was provided. Just listing honors, including minor honors and a very serious dishonor- her official reprimand for professional misconduct by the chief Judge of the 7th Circuit, Judge Posner (widely recognized as perhaps the most prominent jurist in US history not to have sat on the Supreme Court), would clearly fail NPOV requirement, in my view.
Additionally, the first edit was as I said- editing text to accurately reflect facts and content of source material. Accuracy (based on the cited source material) is obviously required. The earlier text claimed that Lightfoot was given a “warning.” This is a substantial mischaracterization of a key fact. It was actually a formal reprimand by Chief Judge Posner writing for the 7th Circuit (the tier of court right below SCOTUS).
The earlier text misstated how the Court found Lightfoot intentionally and seriously mislead another 7th Circuit Judge, to the point that it blew up the whole case. The earlier text stated that she mislead the court about the whereabouts of the plaintiff, when what she was actually misleading the court into believing that her office was enforcing the Court’s order. Because she ran interference by intentionally misleading the Court, the plaintiff was able to be illegally extradited by Norway, thus ending the case. Provided other important context. JustinReilly ( talk) 03:15, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Firefangledfeathers: that she mislead the Judge is very clearly supported by the cited 7th Circuit decision by Posner:
“The motion filed by attorney Lightfoot, a motion that she prepared (albeit with advice from Safford) and signed, presents a more troublesome issue. The trouble lies in the fact that the motion was misleading. It is one thing for a lawyer to advocate an unreasonable position to a court; usually the court can prevent any serious harm to anyone just by rejecting the position. It is another thing for a lawyer to defeat an opposing party's claims by misleading the court, whether by a misrepresentation or by a pregnant omission. That is misconduct… and is what happened here. To the extent, unilluminated by the record, that Safford was (as Lightfoot argues) complicit in Lightfoot's violation of the duty of candor, the fact that Safford is Lightfoot's superior would not get Lightfoot off the hook. Reliance on a superior's orders is a defense to a charge of misconduct only when reasonable… and it is not reasonable to believe that one is authorized to mislead a court…
“The motion thus created a thoroughly false impression of the government's position, an impression that could not but cause Judge Rovner to believe that unless she vacated the stay Lindstrom would remain in the United States until the merits of his appeal could be considered…
“For a government lawyer to file with a court a misleading statement the effect of which is to moot a petition for habeas corpus is professional misconduct. Lightfoot's motion was bound to lull Judge Rovner into thinking that the stay had had the intended effect of preventing Lindstrom's appeal from becoming moot.”
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1014145.html
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“Uncontested facts:” “The request to vacate our decision, which we of course deny, suggests to us that the U.S. Attorney still does not appreciate the gravity of the situation demonstrated by the uncontested facts, which reveal that the Justice Department's failure to equip its attorneys with the necessary expertise to opine on difficult issues relating to extradition precipitated the filing of a misleading motion by the Department that caused this court to lose jurisdiction over an appeal by a person who claims that he had been ordered extradited in violation of law.” JustinReilly ( talk) 13:14, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
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On May 28, 2019, Lightfoot outlined plans to remedy the city's fines and fees programs, increase its minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2021. clarification needed needs update
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On May 28, 2019, Lightfoot outlined plans to remedy the city's fines and fees programs, increase its minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2021. [1] Ampersandexplainer ( talk) 20:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Partly done: I have refactored the sentence to say On November 23, 2021, a plan by Lightfoot to increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2021 was approved by the Chicago City Council. This increase did not include restaurant servers and tipped workers
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Lori went to the high school prom with Mike Kennedy. Kwallsk1 ( talk) 03:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
I like the photographs in this BLP a lot, with one exception: the cropped photo of her with Jill Biden. The image quality is poor, and the central focus of the image is Jill Biden. I like that we see Lightfoot's hand extended in a friendly way toward Jill but because it is merely a side shot of Lightfoot, and Jill is wearing that bright red dress, I don't think it adds anything meaningful to a BLP of Lori Lightfoot. I recommend removing that photo from the article. I won't do so right now, as the election results have increased traffic to the article. Also, I would like to get input from other editors, and welcome any suggestions for replacement photos. FeralOink ( talk) 05:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
kumir, soubhik. "Lori Lightfoot: The Trailblazing Mayor of Chicago". pressvortex. soubhikkumir. Retrieved 1 March 2023.
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Suggested Addition: First Openly Lesbian Black Woman To Be A 1 Term Chicago Mayor I think we should be adding this first to her list of firsts. Seems significant. Like it shows how misogynistic all the voters are that they wouldn’t re-elect her like almost every other Chicago mayor in recent history. PaupaZit ( talk) 02:33, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
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Add [ mayoral runoff results] to Electoral History section Hisbigshow ( talk) 16:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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Please add the category Category:21st-century American LGBT people. 170.76.231.175 ( talk) 18:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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There's currently a template on the article calling Lightfoot's notability into question. Prior to Mayor Emanuel's withdrawal, Lightfoot was polling above 10% in a Chicago mayoral election where no candidate was polling above ~20%. And as of July, Lightfoot had raised more funds than anyone else. Billbrock ( talk) 16:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC) Also see this Chicago Sun-Times article (obviously name recognition is an issue for her). 16:59, 14 September 2018 (UTC) Billbrock ( talk) 17:00, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
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Please capitalize the section 2019 mayoral candidate to 2019 Mayoral Candidate 12.178.189.58 ( talk) 15:51, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Do we have any way of getting a better photo of her? Anecdotally, a lot of sources seem to be using the same photo we have. She'll be appearing in public a lot over the next month or so... Dotdh15 ( talk) 17:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Is this image really appropriate for the page? It's very low quality and the supporter has more of a presence than Lightfoot. Spengouli ( talk) 12:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps using an image from her victory or at a debate is better. This image is old and I believe she does not wear glasses anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.133.85.73 ( talk) 18:46, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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Lori Lightfoots is a large supporter of Marxists ideologies. 204.237.88.38 ( talk) 11:37, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Lightfoot married her wife in 2014. Via this article https://www.the-sun.com/news/2732064/who-is-lori-lightfoots-wife-amy-eshleman/. Hope this helps! Ted7434 ( talk) 19:05, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Why is the location Chicago not in a hyperlink anywhere in the article? Other locations are in a hyperlink in the article, why isn't Chicago? It looks like bad. Can this be fixed? 2600:8801:1301:1900:E939:342C:402:1E3D ( talk) 12:39, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Lightfoot article Needs a criticism section. 2603:9001:6C0D:3600:51C2:AA66:4868:E21F ( talk) 03:11, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
In the paragraph on Crime it says: As of June 17, Chicago leads the nation in mass shootings, average approximately one per week. In response to the third mass shooting in four days, Lightfoot said: "We are part of a club of cities to which no one wants to belong: cities with mass shootings."
average should be averaging 2001:4BB8:2A7:2939:8580:66F3:8472:975E ( talk) 11:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Undid revision 1106903517 by Muboshgu ( talk)
I provided the reasons for my edits, reproduced below:
Edited section on 7th Circuit’s reprimand of her for professional misconduct to accurately reflect facts and content of source material.
NPOV living person
Moboshgu reverted citing “NPOV failed.” I took a quick look at NPOV and didn’t see any basis. Please provide detail.
In changing the Honors, Awards, etc section title to “Honors and Dishonors,” I feel NPOV was provided. Just listing honors, including minor honors and a very serious dishonor- her official reprimand for professional misconduct by the chief Judge of the 7th Circuit, Judge Posner (widely recognized as perhaps the most prominent jurist in US history not to have sat on the Supreme Court), would clearly fail NPOV requirement, in my view.
Additionally, the first edit was as I said- editing text to accurately reflect facts and content of source material. Accuracy (based on the cited source material) is obviously required. The earlier text claimed that Lightfoot was given a “warning.” This is a substantial mischaracterization of a key fact. It was actually a formal reprimand by Chief Judge Posner writing for the 7th Circuit (the tier of court right below SCOTUS).
The earlier text misstated how the Court found Lightfoot intentionally and seriously mislead another 7th Circuit Judge, to the point that it blew up the whole case. The earlier text stated that she mislead the court about the whereabouts of the plaintiff, when what she was actually misleading the court into believing that her office was enforcing the Court’s order. Because she ran interference by intentionally misleading the Court, the plaintiff was able to be illegally extradited by Norway, thus ending the case. Provided other important context. JustinReilly ( talk) 03:15, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Firefangledfeathers: that she mislead the Judge is very clearly supported by the cited 7th Circuit decision by Posner:
“The motion filed by attorney Lightfoot, a motion that she prepared (albeit with advice from Safford) and signed, presents a more troublesome issue. The trouble lies in the fact that the motion was misleading. It is one thing for a lawyer to advocate an unreasonable position to a court; usually the court can prevent any serious harm to anyone just by rejecting the position. It is another thing for a lawyer to defeat an opposing party's claims by misleading the court, whether by a misrepresentation or by a pregnant omission. That is misconduct… and is what happened here. To the extent, unilluminated by the record, that Safford was (as Lightfoot argues) complicit in Lightfoot's violation of the duty of candor, the fact that Safford is Lightfoot's superior would not get Lightfoot off the hook. Reliance on a superior's orders is a defense to a charge of misconduct only when reasonable… and it is not reasonable to believe that one is authorized to mislead a court…
“The motion thus created a thoroughly false impression of the government's position, an impression that could not but cause Judge Rovner to believe that unless she vacated the stay Lindstrom would remain in the United States until the merits of his appeal could be considered…
“For a government lawyer to file with a court a misleading statement the effect of which is to moot a petition for habeas corpus is professional misconduct. Lightfoot's motion was bound to lull Judge Rovner into thinking that the stay had had the intended effect of preventing Lindstrom's appeal from becoming moot.”
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1014145.html
JustinReilly ( talk) 11:38, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
“Uncontested facts:” “The request to vacate our decision, which we of course deny, suggests to us that the U.S. Attorney still does not appreciate the gravity of the situation demonstrated by the uncontested facts, which reveal that the Justice Department's failure to equip its attorneys with the necessary expertise to opine on difficult issues relating to extradition precipitated the filing of a misleading motion by the Department that caused this court to lose jurisdiction over an appeal by a person who claims that he had been ordered extradited in violation of law.” JustinReilly ( talk) 13:14, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
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On May 28, 2019, Lightfoot outlined plans to remedy the city's fines and fees programs, increase its minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2021. clarification needed needs update
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On May 28, 2019, Lightfoot outlined plans to remedy the city's fines and fees programs, increase its minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2021. [1] Ampersandexplainer ( talk) 20:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Partly done: I have refactored the sentence to say On November 23, 2021, a plan by Lightfoot to increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2021 was approved by the Chicago City Council. This increase did not include restaurant servers and tipped workers
and included the given citation. I will leave any section refactoring to more involved/interested parties
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Lori went to the high school prom with Mike Kennedy. Kwallsk1 ( talk) 03:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
I like the photographs in this BLP a lot, with one exception: the cropped photo of her with Jill Biden. The image quality is poor, and the central focus of the image is Jill Biden. I like that we see Lightfoot's hand extended in a friendly way toward Jill but because it is merely a side shot of Lightfoot, and Jill is wearing that bright red dress, I don't think it adds anything meaningful to a BLP of Lori Lightfoot. I recommend removing that photo from the article. I won't do so right now, as the election results have increased traffic to the article. Also, I would like to get input from other editors, and welcome any suggestions for replacement photos. FeralOink ( talk) 05:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
kumir, soubhik. "Lori Lightfoot: The Trailblazing Mayor of Chicago". pressvortex. soubhikkumir. Retrieved 1 March 2023.
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Suggested Addition: First Openly Lesbian Black Woman To Be A 1 Term Chicago Mayor I think we should be adding this first to her list of firsts. Seems significant. Like it shows how misogynistic all the voters are that they wouldn’t re-elect her like almost every other Chicago mayor in recent history. PaupaZit ( talk) 02:33, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
I meant no wrong in this post and I hope you all can trust that. PaupaZit ( talk) 05:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
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Add [ mayoral runoff results] to Electoral History section Hisbigshow ( talk) 16:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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Please add the category Category:21st-century American LGBT people. 170.76.231.175 ( talk) 18:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)