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Carmelo Hayes is on SmackDown now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.246.112.84 ( talk) 09:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Please move CM Punk to the nonexclusive section. As of November 29th 2023, he is not listed on WWE.com's roster page as RAW or Smackdown (filter the page for those brands for confirmation). He only appears on the Current Superstar page and looking at his profile, he has no brand assigned. Just because he appeared on the November 27th episode of RAW, does not make him part of that brand. Please wait until WWE gives confirmation of his brand assignment before doing so on here.
ROSTER PAGE: https://www.wwe.com/superstars (CM Punk appears - As a free agent) CM PUNK PAGE: https://www.wwe.com/superstars/cmpunk (No brand assigned)
Additional proof to support that Punk is a free agent https://nodq.com/news/the-latest-backstage-news-regarding-cm-punk-following-his-return-to-wwe-at-survivor-series/
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.236.62 ( talk) 12:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- This should bring some clarity to things. According to SI, the plan is to have Punk on Raw and have him feud with Rollins, and the report specifically states Punk will be on Raw (at least for awhile) because WWE wants to load it up to score a big TV deal (as the Raw contract with USA ends in October 2024). Vjmlhds (talk) 23:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
The article says "The plan is...." meaning that this what they want to do but at this time, he's not internally listed as RAW or Smackdown. If WWE have him listed as a free agent right now, as they do on their official website, that is what this page should reflect. When the time comes for him to list him as a RAW superstar, this page can show that. Punk's main wiki article does not say he is RAW or Smackdown, which is correct. /info/en/?search=CM_Punk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.236.62 ( talk) 16:10, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- WWE is WWE. Why do we care about in-universe stuff of this level? It's not like the Raw and Smackdown brands run separate house shows anymore. oknazevad ( talk) 16:31, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
He belongs in the free agent list. Neither of the sources VJ listed say he is a Raw superstar. They said he is "expected to be at RAW" for RAW. If I were to venture a guess, he'll end up a RAW superstar -- Orton was shuttled to Smackdown. That being said, we've always followed to WWE roster and if he's listed as a free agent, that's where he should be. And from now on, can we try and NOT take the sources out of context? Kjscotte34 ( talk) 18:08, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well WWE did make it clear tonight that he is a free agent, so that clears that up at least for now.
Vjmlhds
(talk) 04:34, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- It was always clear. Until the WWE's roster page is updated or there's an explicit on screen announcement of a brand switch, no one should be switched based on rumor or speculation, even from outside sources (because they're all dirtsheets to some extent or another). And it certainly should never be based on an editor assuming "it's obvious because he showed up on this one episode of this one show". Even if someone entrees into a multi week program on a given show, they may just be visiting, not a roster transfer. We should never move someone based on drawing conclusions ourselves. Ever.
- Though again, the whole brand assignment thing is overblown and I really don't see the need to identify brands constantly. Especially in the lead of a wrestler's article. That one really grates on my nerves. WWE main roster brands are not separate promotions in any way, and should not be treated like they are. A wrestler's article should only identify the company they're signed with in the lead. The brand can be left to the body. Only NXT needs to be set off because it actually operates semi-independently.
- And we really need to avoid the in-universe "free agent" descriptor. CM Punk is not actually a free agent capable of showing up anywhere. He most certainly won't be on Dynamite this week (even if TK wanted him back). Nor will he be on Impact. Because he cannot. He is under exclusive contract to WWE. He's not a free agent in real life. He's just unassigned to one of the two internal rosters, which time and again have been shown to be easily set aside as needed by the company. oknazevad ( talk) 05:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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Trish Stratus is not an active member of the roster. Can she be taken off JBeeSzabs ( talk) 15:15, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
"change X to Y" format and provide a
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The confusion comes from his full name being Sean Tan Li Hao. Naming conventions as a Singaporean Chinese are <first name> <family name/last name> <Chinese name>, so Tan is his family name/last name and Li Hao being his Chinese name.
In fact, the Ringside News article used as a reference now correctly refers to him as Sean Tan. 103.6.150.239 ( talk) 18:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
There are a bunch of pc recruits that are there, but not added to the list. Antione Frazier and Skylor Clinton were removed from the list for some reason when they are still under contract and wrestling at the live events. And the dudes that got signed from last year’s wrestlemania are all missing. The names: Brayden Jesse Ray, Darrel Mason, Drake Starks, Jonah Niesenbaum, Julian Baldi, Keyshawn Leflore. And some from summerslam are also missing. The names: Thunder Keck, Troy Yearwood, Case Hatch, and one more white guy I don’t know the name of. 100.1.168.206 ( talk) 03:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- The one guy I did not know is called Vincent Winey. Also Copeland Barbee is Lucky Ali and Guru raaj hasn’t been in wwe for a while. 100.1.168.206 ( talk) 17:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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Like I said in the talk page, there are many pc recruits missing in the list. I listed their names in the other comment. Video link where they are all surrounding the ring in the underground match.
https://youtube.com/oEZp9jLiCQA?si=E44Zo4hTLNfR_GB3
100.1.168.206 (
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- Can you please change the pc recruit section from how it is to be updated with missing names. There was an update that added the women from wrestlemania and summerslam, but not the guys. Olena sadovska, Emma Marie Diaz, and Breanna Covington from wrestlemania and Destinee brown and aijea Lee Hargrave from summerslam. Obviously wwe doesn’t just sign women at the tryouts and the guys were never added. And I’ve seen you added Jonah Niesenbaum already which proves the names are correct. The names: Brayden Jesse Ray, Darrel Mason, Drake Starks, Jonah Niesenbaum, Julian Baldi, Keyshawn Leflore. And some from summerslam are also missing. The names: Thunder Keck, Troy Yearwood, Case Hatch, and Vincent Winey. Also Antione Fraser and Skylar Clinton were randomly removed, I assume because you thought they were released but they weren’t.
- match where they are all surrounding the ring. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEZp9jLiCQA&si=xj_OT2dqzpgLRYjV 100.1.168.206 ( talk) 18:56, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Ventrelle was released today so he should be removed from this page.
source: https://www.f4wonline.com/news/wwe/evp-of-talent-dan-ventrelle-no-longer-with-wwe 207.244.221.54 ( talk) 01:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
WWE NXT Men's and Women's Division personnel roster added Carlee Bright and Kendal Grey. WWE NXT Men's Division added Dion Lennox,Je'von Evans, Keanu Carver,Tyson Dupont,Tyriek Igwe and Kale Dixon. 184.55.243.67 ( talk) 06:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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change all "Pay-per-views" to "Premium Live events" as it is no longer called that way. 110.44.119.202 ( talk) 08:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done: Consensus is to use "pay-per-view" as it is the more common term; "premium live event" is a marketing term. —
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HHH Pedrigree is continuing to disregard warning for WP:EW as they continue to add Jacob Fatu's page to list of active roster members. Fatu's signing isn't official, nor has he debuted. I'm submitting a request for an account review as this behavior doesn't warrant a continued ability to edit pages, but I wanted to make everyone else aware that this is going on. Секретное общество ( talk) 03:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- You are the one removing sourced information. Independent sources like Wrestling Observer or PWInsider confirmed his signing. Since Wikipedia is based around independent sources and not confirmation from companies, there is no need for a confirmation from WWE. PWinsider already reported people signing contracts with no confirmation from WWE (like Cody Rhodes, John Morrison or Eva Marie), people claiming it's false and weeks later, the wrestler made his surprise return.-- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 07:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's reliably sourced; what's the issue? —
Czello (
music) 17:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- The source isn't the issue, but the context within the source is. As aforementioned, it's always been Wikipedia standard WP:MoS to not list any status changes before an official announcement has been made by the company in which the person is signing with has made said announcement, or that the given person has debuted. Since he has done neither, he isn't warranted to be listed on the official roster. Секретное общество ( talk) 05:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- We don't add a player to a basketball/football/baseball/hockey roster until the signing is officially announced, even if it's being reported in reliable sources. We should hold to the same standard here. Especially since the reputation of pro wrestling dirtsheets as "reliable sources" is utterly laughable.
oknazevad (
talk) 12:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- The signing has been confirmed, not rumored, by 3 reliable sources. Independent, third party sources. F4online, PWInsider and Fightfull. PWInsider already reported John Morrison, Eva Marie and Cody Rhodes signing with WWE, only to make their debut months later (do you think WWE is gonna announce Cody Rhodes' return and spoil his WrestleMania return?). Fightful reported AOP returning to WWE. Fightful also reported Eric Young returning to WWE just to leave a few months later, with no confirmation from WWE itself. No reason to avoid information just because a primary, non-independent source didn't confirmed it. There is no point to use Third party reliable sources if we need a primary source to confirm it (Maybe, McMahon retired because he was tired, since WWE never mentioned his sexual scandal in 2022). On the other side, when a independent source reports an exit, like NXT the last year, no-one said "wait until WWE confirms this", everyone says "yeah, independent source confirmed it". --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 11:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Your ONE source (not three) says, quote: "Another member of The Bloodline could be headed to WWE.
- According to a report from Fightful Select, Jacob Fatu has been telling people he has signed with the company. However, sources within WWE have not confirmed the news and Fatu has not responded to requests for comment."
- When it's official, feel free to add him. Your source clearly states that it's hearsay. You've violated
WP:EW several times now and continue to misquote your sources, and although I've refrained from submitting a report, I'm going to do so later today if I see one more misleading edit.
Секретное общество (
talk) 11:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! Could I get a bit more context on
As aforementioned, it's always been Wikipedia standard WP:MoS to not list any status changes before an official announcement has been made by the company in which the person is signing with has made said announcement, or that the given person has debuted
. I've never seen that be a thing in the MOS. Lee Vilenski ( talk • contribs) 13:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)- MoS states that articles should all adhere to the same style.. that's the only thing I'm referencing there. What applies to one page applies to all.
Секретное общество (
talk) 13:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- ...I don't think that is what our MOS says at all, quite a bit of our MOS says things don't have to be the same (see things like
WP:RETAIN). I don't see how even if our MOS said that we should be completely uniform it would then mean that we should
not list any status changes before an official announcement has been made by the company in which the person is signing with has made said announcement, or that the given person has debuted
. I just don't understand where that is a thing listed in our MOS. Lee Vilenski ( talk • contribs) 13:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)- MoS aside, the user is listing someone who isn't officially signed. The article clearly states that it's speculation. Regardless, I'm going to refrain for editing The given page until a decision is made on my request. Секретное общество ( talk) 00:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- ...I don't think that is what our MOS says at all, quite a bit of our MOS says things don't have to be the same (see things like
WP:RETAIN). I don't see how even if our MOS said that we should be completely uniform it would then mean that we should
- MoS states that articles should all adhere to the same style.. that's the only thing I'm referencing there. What applies to one page applies to all.
Секретное общество (
talk) 13:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! Could I get a bit more context on
- The signing has been confirmed, not rumored, by 3 reliable sources. Independent, third party sources. F4online, PWInsider and Fightfull. PWInsider already reported John Morrison, Eva Marie and Cody Rhodes signing with WWE, only to make their debut months later (do you think WWE is gonna announce Cody Rhodes' return and spoil his WrestleMania return?). Fightful reported AOP returning to WWE. Fightful also reported Eric Young returning to WWE just to leave a few months later, with no confirmation from WWE itself. No reason to avoid information just because a primary, non-independent source didn't confirmed it. There is no point to use Third party reliable sources if we need a primary source to confirm it (Maybe, McMahon retired because he was tired, since WWE never mentioned his sexual scandal in 2022). On the other side, when a independent source reports an exit, like NXT the last year, no-one said "wait until WWE confirms this", everyone says "yeah, independent source confirmed it". --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 11:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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Carmelo Hayes is on SmackDown now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.246.112.84 ( talk) 09:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Please move CM Punk to the nonexclusive section. As of November 29th 2023, he is not listed on WWE.com's roster page as RAW or Smackdown (filter the page for those brands for confirmation). He only appears on the Current Superstar page and looking at his profile, he has no brand assigned. Just because he appeared on the November 27th episode of RAW, does not make him part of that brand. Please wait until WWE gives confirmation of his brand assignment before doing so on here.
ROSTER PAGE: https://www.wwe.com/superstars (CM Punk appears - As a free agent) CM PUNK PAGE: https://www.wwe.com/superstars/cmpunk (No brand assigned)
Additional proof to support that Punk is a free agent https://nodq.com/news/the-latest-backstage-news-regarding-cm-punk-following-his-return-to-wwe-at-survivor-series/
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.236.62 ( talk) 12:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- This should bring some clarity to things. According to SI, the plan is to have Punk on Raw and have him feud with Rollins, and the report specifically states Punk will be on Raw (at least for awhile) because WWE wants to load it up to score a big TV deal (as the Raw contract with USA ends in October 2024). Vjmlhds (talk) 23:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
The article says "The plan is...." meaning that this what they want to do but at this time, he's not internally listed as RAW or Smackdown. If WWE have him listed as a free agent right now, as they do on their official website, that is what this page should reflect. When the time comes for him to list him as a RAW superstar, this page can show that. Punk's main wiki article does not say he is RAW or Smackdown, which is correct. /info/en/?search=CM_Punk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.236.62 ( talk) 16:10, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- WWE is WWE. Why do we care about in-universe stuff of this level? It's not like the Raw and Smackdown brands run separate house shows anymore. oknazevad ( talk) 16:31, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
He belongs in the free agent list. Neither of the sources VJ listed say he is a Raw superstar. They said he is "expected to be at RAW" for RAW. If I were to venture a guess, he'll end up a RAW superstar -- Orton was shuttled to Smackdown. That being said, we've always followed to WWE roster and if he's listed as a free agent, that's where he should be. And from now on, can we try and NOT take the sources out of context? Kjscotte34 ( talk) 18:08, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well WWE did make it clear tonight that he is a free agent, so that clears that up at least for now.
Vjmlhds
(talk) 04:34, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- It was always clear. Until the WWE's roster page is updated or there's an explicit on screen announcement of a brand switch, no one should be switched based on rumor or speculation, even from outside sources (because they're all dirtsheets to some extent or another). And it certainly should never be based on an editor assuming "it's obvious because he showed up on this one episode of this one show". Even if someone entrees into a multi week program on a given show, they may just be visiting, not a roster transfer. We should never move someone based on drawing conclusions ourselves. Ever.
- Though again, the whole brand assignment thing is overblown and I really don't see the need to identify brands constantly. Especially in the lead of a wrestler's article. That one really grates on my nerves. WWE main roster brands are not separate promotions in any way, and should not be treated like they are. A wrestler's article should only identify the company they're signed with in the lead. The brand can be left to the body. Only NXT needs to be set off because it actually operates semi-independently.
- And we really need to avoid the in-universe "free agent" descriptor. CM Punk is not actually a free agent capable of showing up anywhere. He most certainly won't be on Dynamite this week (even if TK wanted him back). Nor will he be on Impact. Because he cannot. He is under exclusive contract to WWE. He's not a free agent in real life. He's just unassigned to one of the two internal rosters, which time and again have been shown to be easily set aside as needed by the company. oknazevad ( talk) 05:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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Trish Stratus is not an active member of the roster. Can she be taken off JBeeSzabs ( talk) 15:15, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
"change X to Y" format and provide a
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The confusion comes from his full name being Sean Tan Li Hao. Naming conventions as a Singaporean Chinese are <first name> <family name/last name> <Chinese name>, so Tan is his family name/last name and Li Hao being his Chinese name.
In fact, the Ringside News article used as a reference now correctly refers to him as Sean Tan. 103.6.150.239 ( talk) 18:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
There are a bunch of pc recruits that are there, but not added to the list. Antione Frazier and Skylor Clinton were removed from the list for some reason when they are still under contract and wrestling at the live events. And the dudes that got signed from last year’s wrestlemania are all missing. The names: Brayden Jesse Ray, Darrel Mason, Drake Starks, Jonah Niesenbaum, Julian Baldi, Keyshawn Leflore. And some from summerslam are also missing. The names: Thunder Keck, Troy Yearwood, Case Hatch, and one more white guy I don’t know the name of. 100.1.168.206 ( talk) 03:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- The one guy I did not know is called Vincent Winey. Also Copeland Barbee is Lucky Ali and Guru raaj hasn’t been in wwe for a while. 100.1.168.206 ( talk) 17:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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Like I said in the talk page, there are many pc recruits missing in the list. I listed their names in the other comment. Video link where they are all surrounding the ring in the underground match.
https://youtube.com/oEZp9jLiCQA?si=E44Zo4hTLNfR_GB3
100.1.168.206 (
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- Can you please change the pc recruit section from how it is to be updated with missing names. There was an update that added the women from wrestlemania and summerslam, but not the guys. Olena sadovska, Emma Marie Diaz, and Breanna Covington from wrestlemania and Destinee brown and aijea Lee Hargrave from summerslam. Obviously wwe doesn’t just sign women at the tryouts and the guys were never added. And I’ve seen you added Jonah Niesenbaum already which proves the names are correct. The names: Brayden Jesse Ray, Darrel Mason, Drake Starks, Jonah Niesenbaum, Julian Baldi, Keyshawn Leflore. And some from summerslam are also missing. The names: Thunder Keck, Troy Yearwood, Case Hatch, and Vincent Winey. Also Antione Fraser and Skylar Clinton were randomly removed, I assume because you thought they were released but they weren’t.
- match where they are all surrounding the ring. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEZp9jLiCQA&si=xj_OT2dqzpgLRYjV 100.1.168.206 ( talk) 18:56, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Ventrelle was released today so he should be removed from this page.
source: https://www.f4wonline.com/news/wwe/evp-of-talent-dan-ventrelle-no-longer-with-wwe 207.244.221.54 ( talk) 01:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
WWE NXT Men's and Women's Division personnel roster added Carlee Bright and Kendal Grey. WWE NXT Men's Division added Dion Lennox,Je'von Evans, Keanu Carver,Tyson Dupont,Tyriek Igwe and Kale Dixon. 184.55.243.67 ( talk) 06:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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change all "Pay-per-views" to "Premium Live events" as it is no longer called that way. 110.44.119.202 ( talk) 08:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: Consensus is to use "pay-per-view" as it is the more common term; "premium live event" is a marketing term. —
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HHH Pedrigree is continuing to disregard warning for WP:EW as they continue to add Jacob Fatu's page to list of active roster members. Fatu's signing isn't official, nor has he debuted. I'm submitting a request for an account review as this behavior doesn't warrant a continued ability to edit pages, but I wanted to make everyone else aware that this is going on. Секретное общество ( talk) 03:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- You are the one removing sourced information. Independent sources like Wrestling Observer or PWInsider confirmed his signing. Since Wikipedia is based around independent sources and not confirmation from companies, there is no need for a confirmation from WWE. PWinsider already reported people signing contracts with no confirmation from WWE (like Cody Rhodes, John Morrison or Eva Marie), people claiming it's false and weeks later, the wrestler made his surprise return.-- HHH Pedrigree ( talk) 07:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's reliably sourced; what's the issue? —
Czello (
music) 17:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- The source isn't the issue, but the context within the source is. As aforementioned, it's always been Wikipedia standard WP:MoS to not list any status changes before an official announcement has been made by the company in which the person is signing with has made said announcement, or that the given person has debuted. Since he has done neither, he isn't warranted to be listed on the official roster. Секретное общество ( talk) 05:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- We don't add a player to a basketball/football/baseball/hockey roster until the signing is officially announced, even if it's being reported in reliable sources. We should hold to the same standard here. Especially since the reputation of pro wrestling dirtsheets as "reliable sources" is utterly laughable.
oknazevad (
talk) 12:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- The signing has been confirmed, not rumored, by 3 reliable sources. Independent, third party sources. F4online, PWInsider and Fightfull. PWInsider already reported John Morrison, Eva Marie and Cody Rhodes signing with WWE, only to make their debut months later (do you think WWE is gonna announce Cody Rhodes' return and spoil his WrestleMania return?). Fightful reported AOP returning to WWE. Fightful also reported Eric Young returning to WWE just to leave a few months later, with no confirmation from WWE itself. No reason to avoid information just because a primary, non-independent source didn't confirmed it. There is no point to use Third party reliable sources if we need a primary source to confirm it (Maybe, McMahon retired because he was tired, since WWE never mentioned his sexual scandal in 2022). On the other side, when a independent source reports an exit, like NXT the last year, no-one said "wait until WWE confirms this", everyone says "yeah, independent source confirmed it". --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 11:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Your ONE source (not three) says, quote: "Another member of The Bloodline could be headed to WWE.
- According to a report from Fightful Select, Jacob Fatu has been telling people he has signed with the company. However, sources within WWE have not confirmed the news and Fatu has not responded to requests for comment."
- When it's official, feel free to add him. Your source clearly states that it's hearsay. You've violated
WP:EW several times now and continue to misquote your sources, and although I've refrained from submitting a report, I'm going to do so later today if I see one more misleading edit.
Секретное общество (
talk) 11:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! Could I get a bit more context on
As aforementioned, it's always been Wikipedia standard WP:MoS to not list any status changes before an official announcement has been made by the company in which the person is signing with has made said announcement, or that the given person has debuted
. I've never seen that be a thing in the MOS. Lee Vilenski ( talk • contribs) 13:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)- MoS states that articles should all adhere to the same style.. that's the only thing I'm referencing there. What applies to one page applies to all.
Секретное общество (
talk) 13:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- ...I don't think that is what our MOS says at all, quite a bit of our MOS says things don't have to be the same (see things like
WP:RETAIN). I don't see how even if our MOS said that we should be completely uniform it would then mean that we should
not list any status changes before an official announcement has been made by the company in which the person is signing with has made said announcement, or that the given person has debuted
. I just don't understand where that is a thing listed in our MOS. Lee Vilenski ( talk • contribs) 13:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)- MoS aside, the user is listing someone who isn't officially signed. The article clearly states that it's speculation. Regardless, I'm going to refrain for editing The given page until a decision is made on my request. Секретное общество ( talk) 00:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- ...I don't think that is what our MOS says at all, quite a bit of our MOS says things don't have to be the same (see things like
WP:RETAIN). I don't see how even if our MOS said that we should be completely uniform it would then mean that we should
- MoS states that articles should all adhere to the same style.. that's the only thing I'm referencing there. What applies to one page applies to all.
Секретное общество (
talk) 13:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! Could I get a bit more context on
- The signing has been confirmed, not rumored, by 3 reliable sources. Independent, third party sources. F4online, PWInsider and Fightfull. PWInsider already reported John Morrison, Eva Marie and Cody Rhodes signing with WWE, only to make their debut months later (do you think WWE is gonna announce Cody Rhodes' return and spoil his WrestleMania return?). Fightful reported AOP returning to WWE. Fightful also reported Eric Young returning to WWE just to leave a few months later, with no confirmation from WWE itself. No reason to avoid information just because a primary, non-independent source didn't confirmed it. There is no point to use Third party reliable sources if we need a primary source to confirm it (Maybe, McMahon retired because he was tired, since WWE never mentioned his sexual scandal in 2022). On the other side, when a independent source reports an exit, like NXT the last year, no-one said "wait until WWE confirms this", everyone says "yeah, independent source confirmed it". --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 11:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- WikiProject Professional Wrestling frequent targets
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- Low-importance List articles
- WikiProject Lists articles
- List-Class Professional wrestling articles
- Low-importance Professional wrestling articles
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