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How's this article protected, but IPs edit? Sexy Sea Shark 21:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Big Show, Chris Harris and Ron Killings have signed with the WWE...Well, actually, the first two have yet to sign I believe... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.178.161.152 ( talk) 03:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Harris was reported to have signed with WWE, the next day TNA announced he was no longer with the company. WWE.com (I hate having to repeat this so many damn times) DOES NOT report on 99% of their signings. PERIOD. The "dirt sheets" as you call them is our only source on pretty much EVERY signing WWE makes. I think there is sufficient evidence to support this claim
Killings left TNA. The reports say he has been telling people he has signed with WWE. In addition, the Wrestling Observer Newsletter has reported his signing. Once again, it is considered a "dirt sheet" but it is arguable one of the most reliable wrestling news sites on the net.
Big Show was also reported by The Wrestling Observer newsletter.
I just don't know what it ACTUALLY takes to convince people of legitimacy. Wrestling is a tough genre to work with on wikipedia. As long as there are editors on this page who try for the best validity possible, these sites are really the only thing we can hope for.
Dahumorist (
talk) 18:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
be cause 99.999999999999% of the time the isn't an official announcement from WWE, especially when it comes to people re-signing such as Jericho. Skitzo ( talk) 17:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Does anybody now when Lena Yada was moved to the ECW Brand. Based on watching Friday Night Smackdown, it seems that she would still be on Smackdown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 09patrick ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
It was just that she appeared the last couple weeks on ECW, she probably is appearing on part of the Talent Agreement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 09patrick ( talk • contribs) 16:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I was just at the wwe.com page for referees, here, and there is no mention of a Wes Adams, who according to this page is a SmackDown! referee. I don't recall any mention of a referee called Wes adams either, so I'd thought I'd get other peoples thoughts/suggestions/opinions. NiciVampireHeart ( talk) 22:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
As reported earlier, it is still uncertain if Paul "Big Show" Wight has signed with WWE, but two sites (The Wrestling Observer, and wrestleview.com) have said that he has signed a new deal to come back to the company. I will continue to follow this story as it develops, but as of right now, nothing has been confirmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 09patrick ( talk • contribs) 14:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, much appreciated, sarcasm aside. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.169.63.126 ( talk) 21:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
On the OVW Superstars page, they have some wrestlers listed that aren't on this list. Does anyone know why? CrystallixRed ( talk) 00:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Becuase this is a professional list of people employed by and/or contracted to World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), I think they should be under their real names. So instead of John Morrison (John Hennigan), it should be John Hennigan (John Morrison). Lex T/ C Guest Book 00:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
No we should stick to keyfable if the wwe doesnt do it nore should we.
Yes but until WWE release their contracts to the public it doesn't matter, if this was a character list for a soap it would be Character name then Actor, so we should do the same. Skitzo ( talk) 00:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
We should move him to inactive news is that he has doen his knee will this souce do
http://www.pwmania.com/newsarticle.php?page=202688932 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.159 ( talk) 05:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Whats the deal with him is he ever gonna come back,
And also his name is Franklin Roberto Lashley odds are that all his life he's been called Bobby short for Roberto so I think we should put him as Bobby or Frankiln Bobby Lashley, let me know what you think and someone please tell me when he is comeing back Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 18:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC).
He says he's released on his forum on this siteis that reliable enough as it's his own site? Skitzo ( talk) 09:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
As I intimated on the Lashley article, I think it's foolhardy to remove him until we have 100%, certifiable proof. We currently do not. Wikipedia prides itself on reliable sources, we really ought to wait for WWE.com or Lashley (in a face-to-face interview, preferably on video) say anything before we jump the gun. -- L T Dangerous ( talk) 14:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Lex you missed my point that link was to Bobby Lashley's OFFICIAL site. Skitzo ( talk) 15:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
should we put next to him expecting release he said that he "done" with the wwe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.128.100 ( talk) 02:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I think we could remove his as they don't actually remove people that often at all, unless they are sent to developmental, which he hasn't been. Skitzo ( talk) 01:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok WP:PW members have agreed to remove the talent relations from the list because "roster" literally means the wrestlers and the on air talent for WWE. The article is not called "WWE Personnel", nor is it called "WWE Employees". So it was agreed to remove them event if they make promo appearances, that does not make them active as a wrestler or on air talent. The only exemption may be Stone Cold Steve Austin, who makes promo appearances here and then. The original discussion is here.-- TrUcO9311 TaLk / SiGn 19:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
These are all "on screen TV talent that work for WWE" as you say, so they should be kept in this article. Doppy88 ( talk) 19:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Should we move him to inactive how long has it been now since we have seen him on tv —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.103.192 ( talk) 05:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Thats right it was over the shootins star press and 450 and moves like that being baned
His argument over his moves that were banned was over a year ago, there is no reliable source as to why he's inactive, he could be injured for all we know or he could be doing some outside project like Ashley did with survivor. Skitzo ( talk) 01:01, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Last night on raw they said he was out because of an injury. Of course that could be kayfabe. LessThanClippers ( talk) 01:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Gavyn Sykes Paul is one of the most popular people on raw to take hm out would just be stuiped and if we carnt use the offfical show as a reliable source what can we use so move him to inactive but if it is kayfabe and they want us to believe it we should any way just cast your mind back to a few monthes ago when umaga was "injured" by hhh but in real life he was suspended —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.128.100 ( talk) 23:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Chavo is not on ECW. He is sitll consdiered a Smackdown! wrestler. Just like Miz and Morrison are still on ECW. The Talent exchange allows this. This may change, but it hasn't yet. Please stop making this change. LessThanClippers ( talk) 01:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge, John Laurinaitis has never used the name "Johnny Ace" during his time with WWE. His |WWE Corporate bio lists him as John Laurinaitis. Johnny Ace was the name he used in Japan and WCW. Can someone please explain why he keeps getting listed here as Johnny Ace? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.113.242 ( talk) 05:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Arn Anderson isn't his real name but it's what he is called in the article, your looking for problems that don't exist there, Johnny Ace is a well know name for him, you say to someone John Laurinaitis and they won't know who you mean. Skitzo ( talk) 15:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
The difference is that Arn Anderson wrestled in WWE under the name Arn Anderson and still makes appearances as Arn Anderson on WWE television. Laurinaitis (to the best of my knowledge) only works behind the scenes, and has never appeared on WWE television as Johnny Ace. Had Laurinaitis wrestled for WWE at one point as Johnny Ace, I would agree with him being listed here as Johnny Ace. Other former WWE personalities (such as Arn Anderson, Brother Love, and Brooklyn Brawler) are listed under their "stage names" because they still make occasional appearances as their old characters. Laurinaitis doesn't, and has never even appeared on WWE television as Johnny Ace (nor is the name Johnny Ace even mentioned in his WWE corporate bio). I just think that it's a little inaccurate to list him in here as Johnny Ace. (P.S.- I'm not looking for problems, I'm just trying to help the article.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.146.137 ( talk) 08:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
It makes no difference, it's hat he is most commonly know as, so that how he's listed, stop looking for faults where there aren't any. Skitzo ( talk) 00:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Is this guy an ECW member or not? Govvy ( talk) 11:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
This seems ridiculously redundant to me. If one member is inactive, the team itself is obviously inactive, with the other member being active. Any thoughts? I'm really tempted to just remove them, but I want a consensus first. Gavyn Sykes ( talk) 17:37, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
TBH = To Be Honest ... Skitzo ( talk) 22:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Does anybody know who this guy is? Right now he is making his 3rd appearence on ECW (the first two were squash losses against Shelton Benjamin and Big Daddy V). He is now in his third match against Mark Henry. TJ Spyke 03:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Table #1
Superstar | Brand | Role | Status |
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John Cena | RAW | Inactive Wrestler | Recovering from a severe pectoral injury. |
Table #2
Superstar | Role | Status |
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John Cena | Inactive Wrestler | Recovering from a severe pectoral injury. |
TrU Co 9311 22:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why we can't, only 3 separate tables for each brand, but it would need to be put to a vote so the consensus can agree to it. Skitzo ( talk) 22:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Poll
Support, Oppose, or Comment for either table.
Thats just my opinion. iMat thew 22:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
iMat thew 22:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Too much text is added to the screen, with very little benefit. Adding a brand name and a role next to everyone is overkill. Mshake3 ( talk) 22:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
_____________
Do not respond to the above conversation, I (the proposer) agree that using that many tables is kinda hard to read''' TrU Co 9311 00:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
New Poll
-I proposed to add sources to the article to make it a FL article. People disagreed before because it would look "ugly" but this article would easily be able to reach FL status with citations. But the citations I added were the superstar's WWE profiles, which proves that they are contracted to WWE, can we be able to do this?-- TrU Co 9311 00:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I don't see the prolem with a lot of tables. Look at the Academy Award Winners articles. They are full of tables, and read fine. Lex T/ C Guest Book 04:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Table #1
Superstar | Brand | Role | Status |
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John Cena | RAW | Inactive Wrestler | Recovering from a severe pectoral injury. |
Table #2
Superstar | Role | Status |
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John Cena | Inactive Wrestler | Recovering from a severe pectoral injury. |
Undecided:Slight majority of support, but many comments of opposition. TrU Co 9311 22:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
This is the poll if you support the table or not, if you voted about the table above (not for the individual tables but for 1 table), it will be here. The current poll calls for the entire list to be in one table. This discussion will close in 1 week. (2-4-08) TrU Co 9311 22:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Update: There are currently 4 support and 3 oppose. -- iMat thew 20 08 23:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Undecided:There is a slight majority of support, but many comments of opposition. TrU Co 9311 22:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
This is the poll if you support or oppose for adding citations to the article, in hopes of making it a future FL. If you voted above, it will show up here. This discussion will also close in one week. (2-4-08) TrU Co 9311 22:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment I would think so as you don't need to cite each players profile page for someone like the New York Yankees just the main roster page of their website so the same should apply here IMO
so with that in mind I Oppose. Skitzo ( talk) 01:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
So wait a minute. This poll is about whether or not to use references? Mshake3 ( talk) 02:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Update:There are currently 4 support and 3 oppose. iMat thew 20 08 23:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Let's take a look at one random link, such as JBL's bio page. Why is this considered a better citation of him being on the Raw roster as opposed to the roster page? Mshake3 ( talk) 03:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Truco9311 ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I think someone should put something like
DX-Occasional Tag Team
The Hardys-Occasional Tag Team
That's what I think.-- WillC ( talk) 03:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
DX also come to the ring together and use the same ring gear, plus they appear together on many house shows and like every 3 episodes. I think they can be considered "an active tag team". Lex T/ C Guest Book 13:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
DX is still an active tag team. In fact, where I live, they are running commercials for an episode of raw taping here in l.a. and too draw up ticket sales, they are announcing that DX will face Kennedy and Orton as the main event. LessThanClippers ( talk) 22:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Shall wikipedia put Chris Harris in the wwe roster section but under a headline with like No brand —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispowellathome ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I was recently watching Kurt Angle vs The Undertaker at No Way Out 2006 and Michael Cole and Tazz were saying that both men had never taped out now i no that Kurt has since he went to tna but i carn't think about any times that taker has should we put it under Championships and accomplishments if he still hasen't taped it would be like being 15-0 at Wrestlemania —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.245 ( talk) 01:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Listen hear you ass clown wat do you mean not important accomplishment he wrestled for how many years now and not one time has he taped out and if i did this on the udertakers artical i woulnt have got responce —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.245 ( talk) 02:10, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
I keep adding citation needed tags in the article and someone keeps deleting them. Would it kill anyone to revert someone who is vandalizing the article. This article gets so many edits than i can't just check the history page and find out. This person has deleted the citation needed tags 5 times already and this is already annoying me. It is vandalizing and can be reported at ANI. Lex T/ C Guest Book 01:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure, so I'll ask everyone. Is he signed to the WWE for anything. He seems to be at almost every WWE event. Does he travel with them? Does anyone have any information on him. If he is contracted to them, he should appear in the article. iMat thew 20 08 21:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Here's also been interviewed on the former Confidental show. He does have some notability in the wrestling world, but that's about it. Mshake3 ( talk) 00:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Has this guy evan been to a WWE show this year? It used to be that I saw him almost every week
but now I don't see him. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 21:56, 4 February 2008 (UTC),
So what? he is still not an employee of WWE. Skitzo ( talk) 09:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
If he is WWE probably does not want the public to know because of the Kayfabe issue. and besides what's this guy's name any way? Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 22:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC).
Finlay as well as Hornswoggle should be added to one of the people allowed on SmackDown! and also RAW. He is Hornswoggles protector, and seen quite often on RAW. Any objections? GuffasBorgz7 ( talk) 12:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I also agree, it seems any more that Hornswoggle is on RAW just as much as Smackdown!. and Finlay is on RAW all of the time, sometimes just talking to McMahon backstage. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 17:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC).
Is his last name Batista, or Bautista? it keeps changing on the main page. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 23:12, 5 February 2008 (UTC).
How do we know they are returning,. I dont have sports channels so give me info please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispowellathome ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
I have been wondering the same thing. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 22:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC).
If you go to his main page it say's his birth name is Dalip Singh Rana, but we have him listed as just Dalip Singh. who agree's we should put him as Dalip Singh Rana ?. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 23:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC).
It's been reported that WWE has severed ties with OVW and is moving all their contracted wrestlers to Florida Championship wrestling. Plus, you still have several guys listed who were recently released. (Ace Steel being one of them) Geld, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
So according to the tags, this article needs additional sources. It also needs clean up, apparently not meeting Wiki's WP:MOS. So what can we do to fix this? Suggestions? -- TrU Co 9311 21:10, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Before anyone readds him again, someone, anyone, please provide a source that states that he is coming to the WWE because I looked and I couldn't find anything. — Save_Us † 02:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
dont you think it would be easier for readers if the wwe roster and the TNA roster was in alphabetical order —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispowellathome ( talk • contribs) 10:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
It should be either last name first, or go by their first name, like
John Cena, and go by their first name or
Cena John, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steelerfan-94 ( talk • contribs) 21:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Should we put in comers "Divas" like on the tna page and also the superstars of ecw are some times known as "extemists" on the ecw divas part we should be known as "vixans" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.99.252 ( talk) 09:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Ever since WWE released Brooke they have not beenc called that, and Kelly Kelly and Layla are both in another storyline now that makes them hate each other. Steelerfan -94 19:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC) .
It mentions he is on maternity leave it should be paternity for he is a male ;) 82.3.126.153 ( talk)
Was it just me or did anyone else hear that when Mark Henry was on raw a week from the rumbel JR said something that on the live feed it was beeped and on the replays it was taken out all together and the last time Mark was on it hapend but this time no beep just taken out does anyone no what he said —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.128.25 ( talk) 07:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
He has a complete pectoral tear this was on his muspace have received countless e-mail asking how I am doing as of late and asking how my injury is. Well I had no clue anyone knew I was hurt as I never told anyone and I don't read the dirt sheets so I have no clue how they know but it's always nice that people show they care.
In a match recently I hurt my chest. Didn't know how, but I knew something was wrong. WWE had me see a surgeon immediately and after an mri I discovered I had torn my right pectoral completely off the bone. I went in for surgery yesterday morning and all went well. The tear was worse than first thought but the Doc assures me it has been anchored securely and he is more than happy with the results. I had an amazing team of surgeons and I have an amazing physical therapy team. Both of whom are the teams the Cincinnati Reds use. I made the joke that I hoped they know medicine better than the Reds know baseball but that joke dropped like a lead fart.
I am totally confident to be back very soon in better shape than I left both physically and mentally. Again thank you for all the e-mails of well being. I will keep you all updated!
Alba O'Ways
Rory —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.14.54.240 ( talk) 21:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
omg save us your a dumb ass who do you think im am i did copy and past it from his myspace to prove to people like you (Pessimists) that it was true —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.100.195 ( talk) 05:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
shouldnt wikipedia put Paul Burchails and Katie Leas profile on the proper roster not on the inactive because they are on wwe.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispowellathome ( talk • contribs) 09:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I could have swore NiciVampireHeart found a citation for this, but no such citation exists in the article. Noble being a producer also needs a cite... Gavyn Sykes ( talk) 16:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
You should be able to get a lot of references from the Divas DVDs, as he was a trainer/producer for them for several years. I recall Trish and others talking about him, and Finlay himself being interviewed as well. At the same time, I guess we need to know if he's still in that role. Mshake3 ( talk) 05:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
See here. However, it says that he still wants to compete at Now Way Out, so I take that means that we can't list him as inactive yet. Thought I'd wait for other people opinions, so, any thoughts/comments? ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 22:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I doubt it's a storyline, since SD!'s been taped since Wednesday of last week, and he had a segment to build his feud with Edge. CrystallixRed ( talk) 00:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Are we at a point where all injuries "could be storyline", and thus we have to treat them as such? Mshake3 ( talk) 05:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
it sound storyline because they weren't shaw about the injury if it was real they would have told us what it was but f its real it might just be a short injury —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.130.154 ( talk) 06:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I thought we use to put people on the inactive list regardless if they were kayfabe injured or actually injured did we not? Steelerfan -94 19:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
the injury might be like tomkos back surgary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.102.189 ( talk) 06:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
should wikipedia put Eugene in the Developemnt roster because he made a return to OVW as his original gimmick Nick "Eugene" Dinsmore —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.42.6 ( talk) 11:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Vince is not active, does he wrestle on a daily basis? (including PPVs) No, wrestling for 2 consecutive weeks doesn't make him active, if he wrestled as much as he did during the Lashley/Umaga fued then yes.-- TrU Co 9311 22:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
To clear up any future controversies regarding this topic, There should be a set of ground rules that should be followed so everybody knows what the guidelines are:
1. If you hold a title, you're automatically active.
2. If you're listed as an occasional wrestler, but are involved in a heavily featured feud where you are wrestling matches as part of that feud, you're active.
3. For full time wrestlers, you need to appear on TV once every 4 weeks (whether you wrestle or not), or you're inactive.
4. If there's documented proof you're injured, you're inactive until you return to TV or have documented proof of returning at a live event.
Hopefully there will be no further disagreements and I hope these guidelines can cut down on confusion.
I apologize for causing any trouble.
Thank you,
Vjmlhds February 16, 2008 23:23 (UTC)
OK, I'm not going to win with #2, so I'll concede that one.
As long as it's pointed out that guys like Regal, Lawler, and Vince do wrestle aside from their other responsibilities, I can live with that.
But the other 3 points should have no wiggle room, as they're pretty much cut and dry.
Agreed?
Vjmlhds February 16, 2008 23:59 (UTC)
Actually I also disagree with 4A. If promos are airing for a return (currently, like Candice Michelle), they should not be re-added to the active list, because they have not returned yet. When "promos are airing for return", it is stated in italics next the wrestler's name in the inactive list. iMat thew 20 08 00:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Point taken.
Vjmlhds February 17, 2008 00:11 (UTC)
Can we get a consensus on these 3 guidelines?
1. If you have a title you're active
2. The 4 week rule
3. Documented that you're injured--inactive; Documented that you're back (either on TV or at a live event with reference)--active
Plus I created an "Occasional Wrestler" category because that do get in the ring and wrestle shouldn't be clumped in with those that don't.
Vjmlhds February 17, 2008 00:26 (UTC)
I agree kinda but it might be easy if you put them on "on air talent" and say for instance. William Regal - RAW Manager and occasional wrestler. Steelerfan -94 16:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
There has been a lot of back in forth about how I have been trying to arrange the page, and it has led to some unintended bad will on my part.
Let me explain why I have done what I have doing.
I was trying to make the format of this page more consistent with that of the TNA roster page.
Over there the personnel is divided out into more specific categories such as announcers, managers, authority figures, etc.
I felt that by doing it my way, it would better show what everybody's role is on that particular brand instead of everybody being thrown into one big heap of "other talent".
I thought my way would be easier to read and let everybody know who does what on what brand without going through the big "other talent" schmozz.
Give my way a shot, and if I get negative feedback, the message will be received and I'll be a team player.
Thank You.
Vjmlhds February 18, 2008 23:17 (UTC)
Also, previous WP:PW consensus is to list the wrestlers in alphabetical order of the first word in their ring name, whether its a nickname or proper name, ignoring "the." Thus - The Big Show would start with B, Steve Austin would start with S, and K-Kwik would start with K. LessThanClippers ( talk) 23:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I reverted your last change because it makes assumptions as to what inactive talent will be assigned to what brand. What you are doing is making predictions, even if they are highly educated guesses, we can't do that. Please see WP:CRYSTAL - LessThanClippers ( talk) 01:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Who put The Big Show on the roster as RAW talent? has it been said that he is coming to RAW? if so sorry for bringing it up but someone let me know. Steelerfan -94 00:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Well why the hell is he on the roster for the RAW talent? Steelerfan -94 00:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Also should Floyd Meweather (I know I spelled his name wrong) be listed as RAW "On Air Talent? I though this came up on the WP:PW talk page. Steelerfan -94 19:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Big Show is not on the Raw roster, and until he makes an appearance on a show, he will remain in the inactive talent. As for Floyd Mayweather, he should not be on this roster page. This page is not going to add people like Floyd Mayweather or Donald Trump, it goes against what the page is intended for. — Save_Us † 02:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
He'll be competing at a Smackdown/ECW live event in a couple weeks. I know, he COULD be on ECW, but it appears that he'll be on Smackdown. Mshake3 ( talk) 02:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
TrU Co 9311 03:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
WWE has listed him as part of their Smackdown roster. It is official. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.178.161.152 ( talk) 16:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Smackdown. Mshake3 ( talk) 16:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Why can we not say about how long it will be for a superstar to return if there injured? Steelerfan -94 20:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
What I ment to say is how long the injury should take like. when John Cena was injured, Mr. McMahon said at No Way Out he would probably be out 6-12 months, and yes he came back in four, but just a how long the injury should take if they were out for that only, NOT how long it will be before they come back. who agree's? Steelerfan -94 23:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
LessThanClippers ( talk) 23:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes!! so do you think we can do it? like just yesterday I think it said Rey Mysterio would be out for 4-6 months and it's out of the article faster then a set of rims at a Puff Daddy concerte lol. Steelerfan -94 00:10, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
How many times has it been sourced the correct day, do you know? Doctors make projections and then websites and insiders get the information. It's not reliable. Doctors make projections that turn out to be wrong all the time. The fact is, any projected date is going to violate WP:CRYSTAL, we cannot make estimated times of events happening, whether or not its a sourced guess or not, it is still a guess. — Save_Us † 01:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
i think that its a good idea as its only a estimate and it save time checking to see when they might be back mabye its only kayfabe mabye not but its not gonna start ww3 now is it it wont kill anyone so i vote for it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.159.6.120 ( talk) 00:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
1. Why are we listing other personelle, if this is the "Roster" page?
2. This article continues to blur the lines of Kayfabe and Reality, especially when mentioning injury.
3. Alphabetizing - We have a consensus at WP:PW to alphabetize by First letter of first word in ring name, (I will start working on fixing this.)
4. The page is cumbersome to read, we really should consider tables.
Just some thoughts, any opinions? LessThanClippers ( talk) 20:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I think the template idea is a good idea the thing is finding a template that is easy to read. Steelerfan -94 16:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I was just reading www.wrestlezone.com and it said that Colin Delaney has signed with wwe last week. Is www.wrestlezone.com a reaible scource?
Please sign your comments!! Steelerfan -94 17:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Do you think that wikipedia should put next to the wrestlers should put Face (clean) or Heel (Dirty)-- Chrispowellathome ( talk) 18:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)chrispowellathome
-- 80.2.50.106 ( talk) 19:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Cena has been getting that reaction for a year or more and they still haven't turned him heel. and this isn't a forum so can we keep this discussion to relevance to the article please. Skitzo ( talk) 22:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
i'm all for it that way we can determin whos whos and for ones thats nor heel nor face we can put nutrul —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.127.103 ( talk) 10:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I found him on the Raw Roster. Who is he and should he be put on the wwe roster -- 80.2.50.106 ( talk) 19:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Chrispowellathome
It is still on the wwe Raw roster. Must be a promtional thing then -- 81.99.45.255 ( talk) 16:51, 28 February 2008 (UTC)chrispowellathome
Does everyone know what happen to happen Victoria after her match with Michelle McCool on 2/15 edition of Smackdown? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.137.193 ( talk) 01:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Why if you go to WWE.com under the RAW roster it lists stone cold? I know we probably shouldn't put him here but what's the deal? Steelerfan -94 14:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
What is the deal with all of the inactive unasigned wrestlers like Colt Cobana and people like that? Do we know that WWE has kept them? and if so should we maybe make a different page for FPW and unasinged talent for them instead of cluttering up this page? Sexy Steeler Fan 18:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
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Archive 5 | ← | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | → | Archive 15 |
How's this article protected, but IPs edit? Sexy Sea Shark 21:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Big Show, Chris Harris and Ron Killings have signed with the WWE...Well, actually, the first two have yet to sign I believe... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.178.161.152 ( talk) 03:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Harris was reported to have signed with WWE, the next day TNA announced he was no longer with the company. WWE.com (I hate having to repeat this so many damn times) DOES NOT report on 99% of their signings. PERIOD. The "dirt sheets" as you call them is our only source on pretty much EVERY signing WWE makes. I think there is sufficient evidence to support this claim
Killings left TNA. The reports say he has been telling people he has signed with WWE. In addition, the Wrestling Observer Newsletter has reported his signing. Once again, it is considered a "dirt sheet" but it is arguable one of the most reliable wrestling news sites on the net.
Big Show was also reported by The Wrestling Observer newsletter.
I just don't know what it ACTUALLY takes to convince people of legitimacy. Wrestling is a tough genre to work with on wikipedia. As long as there are editors on this page who try for the best validity possible, these sites are really the only thing we can hope for.
Dahumorist (
talk) 18:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
be cause 99.999999999999% of the time the isn't an official announcement from WWE, especially when it comes to people re-signing such as Jericho. Skitzo ( talk) 17:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Does anybody now when Lena Yada was moved to the ECW Brand. Based on watching Friday Night Smackdown, it seems that she would still be on Smackdown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 09patrick ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
It was just that she appeared the last couple weeks on ECW, she probably is appearing on part of the Talent Agreement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 09patrick ( talk • contribs) 16:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I was just at the wwe.com page for referees, here, and there is no mention of a Wes Adams, who according to this page is a SmackDown! referee. I don't recall any mention of a referee called Wes adams either, so I'd thought I'd get other peoples thoughts/suggestions/opinions. NiciVampireHeart ( talk) 22:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
As reported earlier, it is still uncertain if Paul "Big Show" Wight has signed with WWE, but two sites (The Wrestling Observer, and wrestleview.com) have said that he has signed a new deal to come back to the company. I will continue to follow this story as it develops, but as of right now, nothing has been confirmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 09patrick ( talk • contribs) 14:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, much appreciated, sarcasm aside. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.169.63.126 ( talk) 21:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
On the OVW Superstars page, they have some wrestlers listed that aren't on this list. Does anyone know why? CrystallixRed ( talk) 00:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Becuase this is a professional list of people employed by and/or contracted to World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), I think they should be under their real names. So instead of John Morrison (John Hennigan), it should be John Hennigan (John Morrison). Lex T/ C Guest Book 00:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
No we should stick to keyfable if the wwe doesnt do it nore should we.
Yes but until WWE release their contracts to the public it doesn't matter, if this was a character list for a soap it would be Character name then Actor, so we should do the same. Skitzo ( talk) 00:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
We should move him to inactive news is that he has doen his knee will this souce do
http://www.pwmania.com/newsarticle.php?page=202688932 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.159 ( talk) 05:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Whats the deal with him is he ever gonna come back,
And also his name is Franklin Roberto Lashley odds are that all his life he's been called Bobby short for Roberto so I think we should put him as Bobby or Frankiln Bobby Lashley, let me know what you think and someone please tell me when he is comeing back Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 18:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC).
He says he's released on his forum on this siteis that reliable enough as it's his own site? Skitzo ( talk) 09:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
As I intimated on the Lashley article, I think it's foolhardy to remove him until we have 100%, certifiable proof. We currently do not. Wikipedia prides itself on reliable sources, we really ought to wait for WWE.com or Lashley (in a face-to-face interview, preferably on video) say anything before we jump the gun. -- L T Dangerous ( talk) 14:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Lex you missed my point that link was to Bobby Lashley's OFFICIAL site. Skitzo ( talk) 15:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
should we put next to him expecting release he said that he "done" with the wwe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.128.100 ( talk) 02:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I think we could remove his as they don't actually remove people that often at all, unless they are sent to developmental, which he hasn't been. Skitzo ( talk) 01:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok WP:PW members have agreed to remove the talent relations from the list because "roster" literally means the wrestlers and the on air talent for WWE. The article is not called "WWE Personnel", nor is it called "WWE Employees". So it was agreed to remove them event if they make promo appearances, that does not make them active as a wrestler or on air talent. The only exemption may be Stone Cold Steve Austin, who makes promo appearances here and then. The original discussion is here.-- TrUcO9311 TaLk / SiGn 19:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
These are all "on screen TV talent that work for WWE" as you say, so they should be kept in this article. Doppy88 ( talk) 19:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Should we move him to inactive how long has it been now since we have seen him on tv —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.103.192 ( talk) 05:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Thats right it was over the shootins star press and 450 and moves like that being baned
His argument over his moves that were banned was over a year ago, there is no reliable source as to why he's inactive, he could be injured for all we know or he could be doing some outside project like Ashley did with survivor. Skitzo ( talk) 01:01, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Last night on raw they said he was out because of an injury. Of course that could be kayfabe. LessThanClippers ( talk) 01:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Gavyn Sykes Paul is one of the most popular people on raw to take hm out would just be stuiped and if we carnt use the offfical show as a reliable source what can we use so move him to inactive but if it is kayfabe and they want us to believe it we should any way just cast your mind back to a few monthes ago when umaga was "injured" by hhh but in real life he was suspended —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.128.100 ( talk) 23:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Chavo is not on ECW. He is sitll consdiered a Smackdown! wrestler. Just like Miz and Morrison are still on ECW. The Talent exchange allows this. This may change, but it hasn't yet. Please stop making this change. LessThanClippers ( talk) 01:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge, John Laurinaitis has never used the name "Johnny Ace" during his time with WWE. His |WWE Corporate bio lists him as John Laurinaitis. Johnny Ace was the name he used in Japan and WCW. Can someone please explain why he keeps getting listed here as Johnny Ace? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.113.242 ( talk) 05:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Arn Anderson isn't his real name but it's what he is called in the article, your looking for problems that don't exist there, Johnny Ace is a well know name for him, you say to someone John Laurinaitis and they won't know who you mean. Skitzo ( talk) 15:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
The difference is that Arn Anderson wrestled in WWE under the name Arn Anderson and still makes appearances as Arn Anderson on WWE television. Laurinaitis (to the best of my knowledge) only works behind the scenes, and has never appeared on WWE television as Johnny Ace. Had Laurinaitis wrestled for WWE at one point as Johnny Ace, I would agree with him being listed here as Johnny Ace. Other former WWE personalities (such as Arn Anderson, Brother Love, and Brooklyn Brawler) are listed under their "stage names" because they still make occasional appearances as their old characters. Laurinaitis doesn't, and has never even appeared on WWE television as Johnny Ace (nor is the name Johnny Ace even mentioned in his WWE corporate bio). I just think that it's a little inaccurate to list him in here as Johnny Ace. (P.S.- I'm not looking for problems, I'm just trying to help the article.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.146.137 ( talk) 08:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
It makes no difference, it's hat he is most commonly know as, so that how he's listed, stop looking for faults where there aren't any. Skitzo ( talk) 00:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Is this guy an ECW member or not? Govvy ( talk) 11:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
This seems ridiculously redundant to me. If one member is inactive, the team itself is obviously inactive, with the other member being active. Any thoughts? I'm really tempted to just remove them, but I want a consensus first. Gavyn Sykes ( talk) 17:37, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
TBH = To Be Honest ... Skitzo ( talk) 22:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Does anybody know who this guy is? Right now he is making his 3rd appearence on ECW (the first two were squash losses against Shelton Benjamin and Big Daddy V). He is now in his third match against Mark Henry. TJ Spyke 03:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Table #1
Superstar | Brand | Role | Status |
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John Cena | RAW | Inactive Wrestler | Recovering from a severe pectoral injury. |
Table #2
Superstar | Role | Status |
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John Cena | Inactive Wrestler | Recovering from a severe pectoral injury. |
TrU Co 9311 22:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why we can't, only 3 separate tables for each brand, but it would need to be put to a vote so the consensus can agree to it. Skitzo ( talk) 22:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Poll
Support, Oppose, or Comment for either table.
Thats just my opinion. iMat thew 22:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
iMat thew 22:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Too much text is added to the screen, with very little benefit. Adding a brand name and a role next to everyone is overkill. Mshake3 ( talk) 22:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
_____________
Do not respond to the above conversation, I (the proposer) agree that using that many tables is kinda hard to read''' TrU Co 9311 00:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
New Poll
-I proposed to add sources to the article to make it a FL article. People disagreed before because it would look "ugly" but this article would easily be able to reach FL status with citations. But the citations I added were the superstar's WWE profiles, which proves that they are contracted to WWE, can we be able to do this?-- TrU Co 9311 00:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I don't see the prolem with a lot of tables. Look at the Academy Award Winners articles. They are full of tables, and read fine. Lex T/ C Guest Book 04:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Table #1
Superstar | Brand | Role | Status |
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John Cena | RAW | Inactive Wrestler | Recovering from a severe pectoral injury. |
Table #2
Superstar | Role | Status |
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John Cena | Inactive Wrestler | Recovering from a severe pectoral injury. |
Undecided:Slight majority of support, but many comments of opposition. TrU Co 9311 22:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
This is the poll if you support the table or not, if you voted about the table above (not for the individual tables but for 1 table), it will be here. The current poll calls for the entire list to be in one table. This discussion will close in 1 week. (2-4-08) TrU Co 9311 22:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Update: There are currently 4 support and 3 oppose. -- iMat thew 20 08 23:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Undecided:There is a slight majority of support, but many comments of opposition. TrU Co 9311 22:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
This is the poll if you support or oppose for adding citations to the article, in hopes of making it a future FL. If you voted above, it will show up here. This discussion will also close in one week. (2-4-08) TrU Co 9311 22:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment I would think so as you don't need to cite each players profile page for someone like the New York Yankees just the main roster page of their website so the same should apply here IMO
so with that in mind I Oppose. Skitzo ( talk) 01:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
So wait a minute. This poll is about whether or not to use references? Mshake3 ( talk) 02:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Update:There are currently 4 support and 3 oppose. iMat thew 20 08 23:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Let's take a look at one random link, such as JBL's bio page. Why is this considered a better citation of him being on the Raw roster as opposed to the roster page? Mshake3 ( talk) 03:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Truco9311 ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I think someone should put something like
DX-Occasional Tag Team
The Hardys-Occasional Tag Team
That's what I think.-- WillC ( talk) 03:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
DX also come to the ring together and use the same ring gear, plus they appear together on many house shows and like every 3 episodes. I think they can be considered "an active tag team". Lex T/ C Guest Book 13:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
DX is still an active tag team. In fact, where I live, they are running commercials for an episode of raw taping here in l.a. and too draw up ticket sales, they are announcing that DX will face Kennedy and Orton as the main event. LessThanClippers ( talk) 22:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Shall wikipedia put Chris Harris in the wwe roster section but under a headline with like No brand —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispowellathome ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I was recently watching Kurt Angle vs The Undertaker at No Way Out 2006 and Michael Cole and Tazz were saying that both men had never taped out now i no that Kurt has since he went to tna but i carn't think about any times that taker has should we put it under Championships and accomplishments if he still hasen't taped it would be like being 15-0 at Wrestlemania —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.245 ( talk) 01:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Listen hear you ass clown wat do you mean not important accomplishment he wrestled for how many years now and not one time has he taped out and if i did this on the udertakers artical i woulnt have got responce —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.101.245 ( talk) 02:10, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
I keep adding citation needed tags in the article and someone keeps deleting them. Would it kill anyone to revert someone who is vandalizing the article. This article gets so many edits than i can't just check the history page and find out. This person has deleted the citation needed tags 5 times already and this is already annoying me. It is vandalizing and can be reported at ANI. Lex T/ C Guest Book 01:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure, so I'll ask everyone. Is he signed to the WWE for anything. He seems to be at almost every WWE event. Does he travel with them? Does anyone have any information on him. If he is contracted to them, he should appear in the article. iMat thew 20 08 21:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Here's also been interviewed on the former Confidental show. He does have some notability in the wrestling world, but that's about it. Mshake3 ( talk) 00:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Has this guy evan been to a WWE show this year? It used to be that I saw him almost every week
but now I don't see him. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 21:56, 4 February 2008 (UTC),
So what? he is still not an employee of WWE. Skitzo ( talk) 09:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
If he is WWE probably does not want the public to know because of the Kayfabe issue. and besides what's this guy's name any way? Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 22:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC).
Finlay as well as Hornswoggle should be added to one of the people allowed on SmackDown! and also RAW. He is Hornswoggles protector, and seen quite often on RAW. Any objections? GuffasBorgz7 ( talk) 12:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I also agree, it seems any more that Hornswoggle is on RAW just as much as Smackdown!. and Finlay is on RAW all of the time, sometimes just talking to McMahon backstage. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 17:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC).
Is his last name Batista, or Bautista? it keeps changing on the main page. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 23:12, 5 February 2008 (UTC).
How do we know they are returning,. I dont have sports channels so give me info please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispowellathome ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
I have been wondering the same thing. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 22:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC).
If you go to his main page it say's his birth name is Dalip Singh Rana, but we have him listed as just Dalip Singh. who agree's we should put him as Dalip Singh Rana ?. Steelerfan-94 ( talk) 23:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC).
It's been reported that WWE has severed ties with OVW and is moving all their contracted wrestlers to Florida Championship wrestling. Plus, you still have several guys listed who were recently released. (Ace Steel being one of them) Geld, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
So according to the tags, this article needs additional sources. It also needs clean up, apparently not meeting Wiki's WP:MOS. So what can we do to fix this? Suggestions? -- TrU Co 9311 21:10, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Before anyone readds him again, someone, anyone, please provide a source that states that he is coming to the WWE because I looked and I couldn't find anything. — Save_Us † 02:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
dont you think it would be easier for readers if the wwe roster and the TNA roster was in alphabetical order —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispowellathome ( talk • contribs) 10:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
It should be either last name first, or go by their first name, like
John Cena, and go by their first name or
Cena John, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steelerfan-94 ( talk • contribs) 21:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Should we put in comers "Divas" like on the tna page and also the superstars of ecw are some times known as "extemists" on the ecw divas part we should be known as "vixans" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.99.252 ( talk) 09:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Ever since WWE released Brooke they have not beenc called that, and Kelly Kelly and Layla are both in another storyline now that makes them hate each other. Steelerfan -94 19:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC) .
It mentions he is on maternity leave it should be paternity for he is a male ;) 82.3.126.153 ( talk)
Was it just me or did anyone else hear that when Mark Henry was on raw a week from the rumbel JR said something that on the live feed it was beeped and on the replays it was taken out all together and the last time Mark was on it hapend but this time no beep just taken out does anyone no what he said —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.128.25 ( talk) 07:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
He has a complete pectoral tear this was on his muspace have received countless e-mail asking how I am doing as of late and asking how my injury is. Well I had no clue anyone knew I was hurt as I never told anyone and I don't read the dirt sheets so I have no clue how they know but it's always nice that people show they care.
In a match recently I hurt my chest. Didn't know how, but I knew something was wrong. WWE had me see a surgeon immediately and after an mri I discovered I had torn my right pectoral completely off the bone. I went in for surgery yesterday morning and all went well. The tear was worse than first thought but the Doc assures me it has been anchored securely and he is more than happy with the results. I had an amazing team of surgeons and I have an amazing physical therapy team. Both of whom are the teams the Cincinnati Reds use. I made the joke that I hoped they know medicine better than the Reds know baseball but that joke dropped like a lead fart.
I am totally confident to be back very soon in better shape than I left both physically and mentally. Again thank you for all the e-mails of well being. I will keep you all updated!
Alba O'Ways
Rory —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.14.54.240 ( talk) 21:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
omg save us your a dumb ass who do you think im am i did copy and past it from his myspace to prove to people like you (Pessimists) that it was true —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.100.195 ( talk) 05:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
shouldnt wikipedia put Paul Burchails and Katie Leas profile on the proper roster not on the inactive because they are on wwe.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrispowellathome ( talk • contribs) 09:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I could have swore NiciVampireHeart found a citation for this, but no such citation exists in the article. Noble being a producer also needs a cite... Gavyn Sykes ( talk) 16:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
You should be able to get a lot of references from the Divas DVDs, as he was a trainer/producer for them for several years. I recall Trish and others talking about him, and Finlay himself being interviewed as well. At the same time, I guess we need to know if he's still in that role. Mshake3 ( talk) 05:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
See here. However, it says that he still wants to compete at Now Way Out, so I take that means that we can't list him as inactive yet. Thought I'd wait for other people opinions, so, any thoughts/comments? ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 22:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I doubt it's a storyline, since SD!'s been taped since Wednesday of last week, and he had a segment to build his feud with Edge. CrystallixRed ( talk) 00:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Are we at a point where all injuries "could be storyline", and thus we have to treat them as such? Mshake3 ( talk) 05:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
it sound storyline because they weren't shaw about the injury if it was real they would have told us what it was but f its real it might just be a short injury —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.130.154 ( talk) 06:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I thought we use to put people on the inactive list regardless if they were kayfabe injured or actually injured did we not? Steelerfan -94 19:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
the injury might be like tomkos back surgary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.102.189 ( talk) 06:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
should wikipedia put Eugene in the Developemnt roster because he made a return to OVW as his original gimmick Nick "Eugene" Dinsmore —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.42.6 ( talk) 11:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Vince is not active, does he wrestle on a daily basis? (including PPVs) No, wrestling for 2 consecutive weeks doesn't make him active, if he wrestled as much as he did during the Lashley/Umaga fued then yes.-- TrU Co 9311 22:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
To clear up any future controversies regarding this topic, There should be a set of ground rules that should be followed so everybody knows what the guidelines are:
1. If you hold a title, you're automatically active.
2. If you're listed as an occasional wrestler, but are involved in a heavily featured feud where you are wrestling matches as part of that feud, you're active.
3. For full time wrestlers, you need to appear on TV once every 4 weeks (whether you wrestle or not), or you're inactive.
4. If there's documented proof you're injured, you're inactive until you return to TV or have documented proof of returning at a live event.
Hopefully there will be no further disagreements and I hope these guidelines can cut down on confusion.
I apologize for causing any trouble.
Thank you,
Vjmlhds February 16, 2008 23:23 (UTC)
OK, I'm not going to win with #2, so I'll concede that one.
As long as it's pointed out that guys like Regal, Lawler, and Vince do wrestle aside from their other responsibilities, I can live with that.
But the other 3 points should have no wiggle room, as they're pretty much cut and dry.
Agreed?
Vjmlhds February 16, 2008 23:59 (UTC)
Actually I also disagree with 4A. If promos are airing for a return (currently, like Candice Michelle), they should not be re-added to the active list, because they have not returned yet. When "promos are airing for return", it is stated in italics next the wrestler's name in the inactive list. iMat thew 20 08 00:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Point taken.
Vjmlhds February 17, 2008 00:11 (UTC)
Can we get a consensus on these 3 guidelines?
1. If you have a title you're active
2. The 4 week rule
3. Documented that you're injured--inactive; Documented that you're back (either on TV or at a live event with reference)--active
Plus I created an "Occasional Wrestler" category because that do get in the ring and wrestle shouldn't be clumped in with those that don't.
Vjmlhds February 17, 2008 00:26 (UTC)
I agree kinda but it might be easy if you put them on "on air talent" and say for instance. William Regal - RAW Manager and occasional wrestler. Steelerfan -94 16:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
There has been a lot of back in forth about how I have been trying to arrange the page, and it has led to some unintended bad will on my part.
Let me explain why I have done what I have doing.
I was trying to make the format of this page more consistent with that of the TNA roster page.
Over there the personnel is divided out into more specific categories such as announcers, managers, authority figures, etc.
I felt that by doing it my way, it would better show what everybody's role is on that particular brand instead of everybody being thrown into one big heap of "other talent".
I thought my way would be easier to read and let everybody know who does what on what brand without going through the big "other talent" schmozz.
Give my way a shot, and if I get negative feedback, the message will be received and I'll be a team player.
Thank You.
Vjmlhds February 18, 2008 23:17 (UTC)
Also, previous WP:PW consensus is to list the wrestlers in alphabetical order of the first word in their ring name, whether its a nickname or proper name, ignoring "the." Thus - The Big Show would start with B, Steve Austin would start with S, and K-Kwik would start with K. LessThanClippers ( talk) 23:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I reverted your last change because it makes assumptions as to what inactive talent will be assigned to what brand. What you are doing is making predictions, even if they are highly educated guesses, we can't do that. Please see WP:CRYSTAL - LessThanClippers ( talk) 01:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Who put The Big Show on the roster as RAW talent? has it been said that he is coming to RAW? if so sorry for bringing it up but someone let me know. Steelerfan -94 00:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Well why the hell is he on the roster for the RAW talent? Steelerfan -94 00:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Also should Floyd Meweather (I know I spelled his name wrong) be listed as RAW "On Air Talent? I though this came up on the WP:PW talk page. Steelerfan -94 19:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Big Show is not on the Raw roster, and until he makes an appearance on a show, he will remain in the inactive talent. As for Floyd Mayweather, he should not be on this roster page. This page is not going to add people like Floyd Mayweather or Donald Trump, it goes against what the page is intended for. — Save_Us † 02:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
He'll be competing at a Smackdown/ECW live event in a couple weeks. I know, he COULD be on ECW, but it appears that he'll be on Smackdown. Mshake3 ( talk) 02:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
TrU Co 9311 03:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
WWE has listed him as part of their Smackdown roster. It is official. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.178.161.152 ( talk) 16:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Smackdown. Mshake3 ( talk) 16:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Why can we not say about how long it will be for a superstar to return if there injured? Steelerfan -94 20:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
What I ment to say is how long the injury should take like. when John Cena was injured, Mr. McMahon said at No Way Out he would probably be out 6-12 months, and yes he came back in four, but just a how long the injury should take if they were out for that only, NOT how long it will be before they come back. who agree's? Steelerfan -94 23:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
LessThanClippers ( talk) 23:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes!! so do you think we can do it? like just yesterday I think it said Rey Mysterio would be out for 4-6 months and it's out of the article faster then a set of rims at a Puff Daddy concerte lol. Steelerfan -94 00:10, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
How many times has it been sourced the correct day, do you know? Doctors make projections and then websites and insiders get the information. It's not reliable. Doctors make projections that turn out to be wrong all the time. The fact is, any projected date is going to violate WP:CRYSTAL, we cannot make estimated times of events happening, whether or not its a sourced guess or not, it is still a guess. — Save_Us † 01:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
i think that its a good idea as its only a estimate and it save time checking to see when they might be back mabye its only kayfabe mabye not but its not gonna start ww3 now is it it wont kill anyone so i vote for it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.159.6.120 ( talk) 00:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
1. Why are we listing other personelle, if this is the "Roster" page?
2. This article continues to blur the lines of Kayfabe and Reality, especially when mentioning injury.
3. Alphabetizing - We have a consensus at WP:PW to alphabetize by First letter of first word in ring name, (I will start working on fixing this.)
4. The page is cumbersome to read, we really should consider tables.
Just some thoughts, any opinions? LessThanClippers ( talk) 20:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I think the template idea is a good idea the thing is finding a template that is easy to read. Steelerfan -94 16:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I was just reading www.wrestlezone.com and it said that Colin Delaney has signed with wwe last week. Is www.wrestlezone.com a reaible scource?
Please sign your comments!! Steelerfan -94 17:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Do you think that wikipedia should put next to the wrestlers should put Face (clean) or Heel (Dirty)-- Chrispowellathome ( talk) 18:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)chrispowellathome
-- 80.2.50.106 ( talk) 19:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Cena has been getting that reaction for a year or more and they still haven't turned him heel. and this isn't a forum so can we keep this discussion to relevance to the article please. Skitzo ( talk) 22:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
i'm all for it that way we can determin whos whos and for ones thats nor heel nor face we can put nutrul —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.127.103 ( talk) 10:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I found him on the Raw Roster. Who is he and should he be put on the wwe roster -- 80.2.50.106 ( talk) 19:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Chrispowellathome
It is still on the wwe Raw roster. Must be a promtional thing then -- 81.99.45.255 ( talk) 16:51, 28 February 2008 (UTC)chrispowellathome
Does everyone know what happen to happen Victoria after her match with Michelle McCool on 2/15 edition of Smackdown? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.137.193 ( talk) 01:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Why if you go to WWE.com under the RAW roster it lists stone cold? I know we probably shouldn't put him here but what's the deal? Steelerfan -94 14:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
What is the deal with all of the inactive unasigned wrestlers like Colt Cobana and people like that? Do we know that WWE has kept them? and if so should we maybe make a different page for FPW and unasinged talent for them instead of cluttering up this page? Sexy Steeler Fan 18:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)