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It appears that this article is being edited by the subject, or someone close to him. For example, all images of the subject show him masked, whereas images on Naver and all other search engines show him with this full face. There is no need to censor his face on Wikipedia. The #1 source on Naver, for example, is this image: https://search.pstatic.net/common/?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimgnews.naver.net%2Fimage%2F003%2F2022%2F01%2F19%2FNISI20220118_0018348664_web_20220118214749_20220119060116135.jpg&type=sc960_832
Also, having a section purely on the subject's career (Experience) is not common on Wikipedia articles. While it is common in Korea, it is not an international standard, so this section should be removed as it merely appears a LinkedIn profile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.12.172.201 ( talk) 08:23, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Per consensus, WP:COMMONNAME – robertsky ( talk) 06:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Lee Jun-seok → Lee Junseok – Lee uses the name Lee Junseok in all official documents.His Harvard University graduate's name is also Junseok. Additionally, the revised Korean romanization system recommends not using spaces between given names. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 07:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose. Predominate
WP:RS uses the "Lee Jun-seok" name.
The Korea Times,
The Korea Herald,
The Diplomat,
Nikkei Asia, and more.
Cfls (
talk) 01:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- He uses the name Lee Junseok in all official documents. We must respect the name he uses officially.
Ehgud2077 (
talk) 02:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- No, that's not Wikipedia policy.
WP:COMMONNAME is how we determine article titles. signed,
Rosguill
talk 04:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- In Korea, he is known as Lee Junseok, and in Korea, hyphens (-)are not often used when romanizing.
Ehgud2077 (
talk) 04:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- The only relevant argument here is however WP:RS spell it. Cfls has provided examples of top-quality sources consistently preferring the current spelling in recent coverage, including both Korean and international sources. That's about as strong of an argument as can exist. signed, Rosguill talk 04:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- In Korea, he is known as Lee Junseok, and in Korea, hyphens (-)are not often used when romanizing.
Ehgud2077 (
talk) 04:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- No, that's not Wikipedia policy.
WP:COMMONNAME is how we determine article titles. signed,
Rosguill
talk 04:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- The name should be the name he uses officially. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 02:23, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- It is written as Lee Junseok in Namu Wiki, Korea's most famous encyclopedia. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 04:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- And these days, many Koreans don't use spaces in their first names. And this trend will continue. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 04:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Only newspapers use hyphens between first names. Koreans usually do not use hyphens in passports, ID cards, or other documents. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 07:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- He officially goes by the name Lee Junseok. The name Lee Junseok is written on graduation certificates, various theses, personal social networks, and the website of the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea. News articles in English cannot represent everything. News reporters were just copying one story. One reporter put a hyphen and the rest just copied it. Lee Junseok has never officially used a hyphen. This result came about because foreign media did not know Korean culture and Korean reporters also copied the content of the foreign media. Usually, English articles from Korean media outlets copy articles from Western media outlets. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 07:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Why do you set standards for hyphens that Koreans don't use often? Ehgud2077 ( talk) 07:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- He uses the name Lee Junseok in all official documents. We must respect the name he uses officially.
Ehgud2077 (
talk) 02:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose. WP:COMMONNAME is what generally governs naming policies on wikipedia, and it tends to outweigh 'official' spellings. Hence South Korea and not "Republic of Korea". If you don't like the standards for Korea-related articles, propose a change to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean).
- Also, don't WP:TEXTWALL. You repeated the same point several times unnecessarily. We get it, no need to repeat. 73.173.84.93 ( talk) 14:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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Also, having a section purely on the subject's career (Experience) is not common on Wikipedia articles. While it is common in Korea, it is not an international standard, so this section should be removed as it merely appears a LinkedIn profile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.12.172.201 ( talk) 08:23, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Per consensus, WP:COMMONNAME – robertsky ( talk) 06:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Lee Jun-seok → Lee Junseok – Lee uses the name Lee Junseok in all official documents.His Harvard University graduate's name is also Junseok. Additionally, the revised Korean romanization system recommends not using spaces between given names. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 07:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose. Predominate
WP:RS uses the "Lee Jun-seok" name.
The Korea Times,
The Korea Herald,
The Diplomat,
Nikkei Asia, and more.
Cfls (
talk) 01:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- He uses the name Lee Junseok in all official documents. We must respect the name he uses officially.
Ehgud2077 (
talk) 02:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- No, that's not Wikipedia policy.
WP:COMMONNAME is how we determine article titles. signed,
Rosguill
talk 04:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- In Korea, he is known as Lee Junseok, and in Korea, hyphens (-)are not often used when romanizing.
Ehgud2077 (
talk) 04:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- The only relevant argument here is however WP:RS spell it. Cfls has provided examples of top-quality sources consistently preferring the current spelling in recent coverage, including both Korean and international sources. That's about as strong of an argument as can exist. signed, Rosguill talk 04:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- In Korea, he is known as Lee Junseok, and in Korea, hyphens (-)are not often used when romanizing.
Ehgud2077 (
talk) 04:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- No, that's not Wikipedia policy.
WP:COMMONNAME is how we determine article titles. signed,
Rosguill
talk 04:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- The name should be the name he uses officially. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 02:23, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- It is written as Lee Junseok in Namu Wiki, Korea's most famous encyclopedia. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 04:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- And these days, many Koreans don't use spaces in their first names. And this trend will continue. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 04:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Only newspapers use hyphens between first names. Koreans usually do not use hyphens in passports, ID cards, or other documents. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 07:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- He officially goes by the name Lee Junseok. The name Lee Junseok is written on graduation certificates, various theses, personal social networks, and the website of the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea. News articles in English cannot represent everything. News reporters were just copying one story. One reporter put a hyphen and the rest just copied it. Lee Junseok has never officially used a hyphen. This result came about because foreign media did not know Korean culture and Korean reporters also copied the content of the foreign media. Usually, English articles from Korean media outlets copy articles from Western media outlets. Ehgud2077 ( talk) 07:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Why do you set standards for hyphens that Koreans don't use often? Ehgud2077 ( talk) 07:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- He uses the name Lee Junseok in all official documents. We must respect the name he uses officially.
Ehgud2077 (
talk) 02:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose. WP:COMMONNAME is what generally governs naming policies on wikipedia, and it tends to outweigh 'official' spellings. Hence South Korea and not "Republic of Korea". If you don't like the standards for Korea-related articles, propose a change to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean).
- Also, don't WP:TEXTWALL. You repeated the same point several times unnecessarily. We get it, no need to repeat. 73.173.84.93 ( talk) 14:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)