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An editor has removed builder A. Carlyle Stoney saying the article is not a biography. However, is it better to add a section about the builder rather loose this information? Or, is a better to have an article about him? Greg Henderson ( talk) 18:04, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- The information included was not relevant to the topic, and was also WP:OR, including using non-reliable sources like ancestry.com. If the person is notable in their own right, someone else can create an article about them, but if not, there is no "loss" to wikipedia by not having their personal details anywhere. Melcous ( talk) 22:43, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
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La Rambla Building. That user has been
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- Add the following text directly under the History section: "The La Rambla Building is a two-story wood-framed Spanish Eclectic-style commercial building, constructed in 1929, south of Ocean Avenue on Lincoln Street in Carmel-by-the-Sea, California. The building was designed by architect Guy O. Koepp and built by Carlyle Stoney. It has shops on the ground floor and living quarters on the second floor. It has a central- arcade passageway on the first floor.
- Use the following citation, which is already in the article:
[1]
References
- ^ Kent L. Seavey (January 30, 2003). "Department Of Parks And Recreation". National Park Service. p. 56. Retrieved January 11, 2024.
Greg Henderson ( talk) 18:41, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Need the correct page number for a full citation.
Netherzone (
talk) 18:57, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- The url =
https://archive.org/details/carmel_historic_survey_volume_ii_blocks_70-end_plus_historic_objects__districts/page/n55/mode/2up?q=%22La+Rambla%22, and the page numbers are list as 56-58 for the La Rambla builidng.
Greg Henderson (
talk) 19:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
ToadetteEdit, Please undo the edit request or resolve the problem.
Netherzone (
talk) 14:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
ToadetteEdit, Why are you reverting your edits when the correct url and page numbers have been provided in the above reply? It is a simple matter of updating page numbers, right?
Greg Henderson (
talk) 17:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Greg, much of this can be avoided if you do not submit incomplete edit requests that requires other to do further work.
Graywalls (
talk) 02:05, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I understand your point. However, my reply had the correct URL and page number. It seems silly to revert the edit. Not sure why ToadetteEdit did this. All they had to do is a copy/paste. This edit request is still OPEN.
Greg Henderson (
talk) 02:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- They're also not required to approve your edit request and not prohibited from having a change of mind on the one they've once approved. Graywalls ( talk) 03:21, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Greghenderson2006, please assume good faith and stop badgering other editors; no one is obligated to satisfy you. Left guide ( talk) 04:02, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ Greghenderson2006 if the editor is not satisfied that the information is sufficient, they are not required to perform it. We are all volunteers here, and yours is not a higher priority than any other edit request. Star Mississippi 16:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ Greghenderson2006, I'd like to comment on this as well. A newer editor was fulfilling edit requests too quickly and without actually reading the sources and checking them against the requested edit. It resulted in incorrect and/or incomplete information being added to three of your articles. The problem began with you not checking your own work and citations before making a request, but rather just copy-pasting a source. This is something we have seen again and again on multiple articles. Also, it has been requested that you slow down on making so many edit requests - try to make things right the first go-around if possible. Thank you. Netherzone ( talk) 17:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- I understand your point. However, my reply had the correct URL and page number. It seems silly to revert the edit. Not sure why ToadetteEdit did this. All they had to do is a copy/paste. This edit request is still OPEN.
Greg Henderson (
talk) 02:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Greg, much of this can be avoided if you do not submit incomplete edit requests that requires other to do further work.
Graywalls (
talk) 02:05, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
ToadetteEdit, Why are you reverting your edits when the correct url and page numbers have been provided in the above reply? It is a simple matter of updating page numbers, right?
Greg Henderson (
talk) 17:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
ToadetteEdit, Please undo the edit request or resolve the problem.
Netherzone (
talk) 14:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The url =
https://archive.org/details/carmel_historic_survey_volume_ii_blocks_70-end_plus_historic_objects__districts/page/n55/mode/2up?q=%22La+Rambla%22, and the page numbers are list as 56-58 for the La Rambla builidng.
Greg Henderson (
talk) 19:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Need the correct page number for a full citation.
Netherzone (
talk) 18:57, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
-
Partly done as I think that the provided text fits better within the lead rather than the History section. —
Antrotherkus
Talk to me! 20:36, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right. Thanks for making this change. Greg Henderson ( talk) 20:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
Antrotherkus, it seemed that you did not read the discussion above. You reinstated the wrong page number for the citation. You need to read and check citations and edit request text changes before you make a change. Or Greg, you need to close out an incorrect edit request and open a new one if your original edit request has incorrect information in it.
Netherzone (
talk) 23:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Netherzone has reverted the changes made by Antrotherkus because of wrong page numbers. Here is the correct URL and pages numbers: https://archive.org/details/carmel_historic_survey_volume_ii_blocks_70-end_plus_historic_objects__districts/page/n55/mode/2up?q=%22La+Rambla%22, and the page numbers are list as 56-58 . Let me know if you need a new edit request or if this is clear enough for you to do? Greg Henderson ( talk) 00:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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An editor has removed builder A. Carlyle Stoney saying the article is not a biography. However, is it better to add a section about the builder rather loose this information? Or, is a better to have an article about him? Greg Henderson ( talk) 18:04, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- The information included was not relevant to the topic, and was also WP:OR, including using non-reliable sources like ancestry.com. If the person is notable in their own right, someone else can create an article about them, but if not, there is no "loss" to wikipedia by not having their personal details anywhere. Melcous ( talk) 22:43, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
| The user below has a request that an edit be made to
La Rambla Building. That user has been
partially blocked from editing it. There are currently
12 requests waiting for review. Please read the instructions for the parameters used by this template for accepting and declining them, and review the request below and make the edit if it is well sourced, neutral, and follows other Wikipedia guidelines and policies. |
- Add the following text directly under the History section: "The La Rambla Building is a two-story wood-framed Spanish Eclectic-style commercial building, constructed in 1929, south of Ocean Avenue on Lincoln Street in Carmel-by-the-Sea, California. The building was designed by architect Guy O. Koepp and built by Carlyle Stoney. It has shops on the ground floor and living quarters on the second floor. It has a central- arcade passageway on the first floor.
- Use the following citation, which is already in the article:
[1]
References
- ^ Kent L. Seavey (January 30, 2003). "Department Of Parks And Recreation". National Park Service. p. 56. Retrieved January 11, 2024.
Greg Henderson ( talk) 18:41, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Need the correct page number for a full citation.
Netherzone (
talk) 18:57, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- The url =
https://archive.org/details/carmel_historic_survey_volume_ii_blocks_70-end_plus_historic_objects__districts/page/n55/mode/2up?q=%22La+Rambla%22, and the page numbers are list as 56-58 for the La Rambla builidng.
Greg Henderson (
talk) 19:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
ToadetteEdit, Please undo the edit request or resolve the problem.
Netherzone (
talk) 14:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
ToadetteEdit, Why are you reverting your edits when the correct url and page numbers have been provided in the above reply? It is a simple matter of updating page numbers, right?
Greg Henderson (
talk) 17:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Greg, much of this can be avoided if you do not submit incomplete edit requests that requires other to do further work.
Graywalls (
talk) 02:05, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I understand your point. However, my reply had the correct URL and page number. It seems silly to revert the edit. Not sure why ToadetteEdit did this. All they had to do is a copy/paste. This edit request is still OPEN.
Greg Henderson (
talk) 02:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- They're also not required to approve your edit request and not prohibited from having a change of mind on the one they've once approved. Graywalls ( talk) 03:21, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Greghenderson2006, please assume good faith and stop badgering other editors; no one is obligated to satisfy you. Left guide ( talk) 04:02, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ Greghenderson2006 if the editor is not satisfied that the information is sufficient, they are not required to perform it. We are all volunteers here, and yours is not a higher priority than any other edit request. Star Mississippi 16:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ Greghenderson2006, I'd like to comment on this as well. A newer editor was fulfilling edit requests too quickly and without actually reading the sources and checking them against the requested edit. It resulted in incorrect and/or incomplete information being added to three of your articles. The problem began with you not checking your own work and citations before making a request, but rather just copy-pasting a source. This is something we have seen again and again on multiple articles. Also, it has been requested that you slow down on making so many edit requests - try to make things right the first go-around if possible. Thank you. Netherzone ( talk) 17:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- I understand your point. However, my reply had the correct URL and page number. It seems silly to revert the edit. Not sure why ToadetteEdit did this. All they had to do is a copy/paste. This edit request is still OPEN.
Greg Henderson (
talk) 02:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Greg, much of this can be avoided if you do not submit incomplete edit requests that requires other to do further work.
Graywalls (
talk) 02:05, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
ToadetteEdit, Why are you reverting your edits when the correct url and page numbers have been provided in the above reply? It is a simple matter of updating page numbers, right?
Greg Henderson (
talk) 17:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
ToadetteEdit, Please undo the edit request or resolve the problem.
Netherzone (
talk) 14:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The url =
https://archive.org/details/carmel_historic_survey_volume_ii_blocks_70-end_plus_historic_objects__districts/page/n55/mode/2up?q=%22La+Rambla%22, and the page numbers are list as 56-58 for the La Rambla builidng.
Greg Henderson (
talk) 19:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Need the correct page number for a full citation.
Netherzone (
talk) 18:57, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
-
Partly done as I think that the provided text fits better within the lead rather than the History section. —
Antrotherkus
Talk to me! 20:36, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right. Thanks for making this change. Greg Henderson ( talk) 20:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- @
Antrotherkus, it seemed that you did not read the discussion above. You reinstated the wrong page number for the citation. You need to read and check citations and edit request text changes before you make a change. Or Greg, you need to close out an incorrect edit request and open a new one if your original edit request has incorrect information in it.
Netherzone (
talk) 23:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Netherzone has reverted the changes made by Antrotherkus because of wrong page numbers. Here is the correct URL and pages numbers: https://archive.org/details/carmel_historic_survey_volume_ii_blocks_70-end_plus_historic_objects__districts/page/n55/mode/2up?q=%22La+Rambla%22, and the page numbers are list as 56-58 . Let me know if you need a new edit request or if this is clear enough for you to do? Greg Henderson ( talk) 00:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)