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From an Email, I have received
Alex, hello, I am taking advantage of your E-mail offer on your Talk page. Would you please change the name of the Qarluq article from the Qarluq to Karluk. The reasons are as follows:
1. Nobody ever indicated why this funny spelling, whose dialect it tries to emulate, and what's the difference in Qa vs Ka or uk vs uq. 2. In the majority of the modern English publications, as well as in other languages with Latin script the accepted spelling is Karluk. Trying to cite a "Karluk" reference and transforming it to the "Qarluq" spelling creates a nonsensical situation. 3. Googling "Karluk" brings much more results then googling "Qarluq". 4. Googling "Karluk" brings much higher veriety of returns, reflecting the international usage of this spelling, while "Qarluq" in comparison is quite limited to a certain English zone. 5. Karluk as a last name is never spelled Qarluq. Surprisingly, the Karluks continue to carry their remote past, just like, for example, do the Alans and Franks. Have you seen a Frank spelled Phrank or Phrankh or Phranq? 6. I could cite more reasons. Much of the literature is in Russian, with its straightforward Karluk, etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Bakharev ( talk • contribs)
I have moved the paragraph on etymology that caused objections to this discussion page, to open it up for discussion, because this paragraph is in sharp conflict with the referenced part of the etymology section:
Khubilai was one of Chingis khan's 8 companions. Please not confused with Great Khan Kublai who was born in 1215. When Karluks was conquered by Khubilai general, he was not born.-- Enerelt ( talk) 02:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
How can "home rule" be "non-autonomous"??? СЛУЖБА ( talk) 00:51, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
According to Denis Sinor, the view that the Battle of Talas ended China's Central Asian presence is incorrect, it was after the battle that China shot itself in the foot by interfering with the Turkic Khaganate's affairs and ended China and their Turkic allies presence in the region.
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Cambridge_History_of_Early_Inner_Asi.html?id=ST6TRNuWmHsC
Most of the Karluk Turks converted to Islam in the 10th century, two centuries (200 years) after the Battle of Talas.
http://books.google.com/books?id=qcPZ1k65pqkC&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=uQ7k2vQlYxEC&pg=PA68#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=75FlxDhZWpwC&pg=PA68#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=imw_KFD5bsQC&pg=PA351#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=fc69BhBDjhwC&pg=PA28#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=7E8gYYcHuk8C&pg=PA84#v=onepage&q&f=false
The Karluks also fought against the Uighurs.
Rajmaan ( talk) 03:45, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
the map 'asia in 600', cuts off after note 30. Must be interference from "new policy' pop-up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.29.43 ( talk) 03:46, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
In the article, it states that "Navakat (now Karabulak)" as one of the Karluk settlements. However, "Karabulak" is the name of several settlements in the region. Clarification is needed. Verified Cactus ( talk) 19:07, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
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@ BappoEdits: I'm getting deja vu here. Please explain why random and non-academic websites like like "ariaye.com" and "mundigak.com" are WP:RS as you claimed here [1]. And please also show me the rule that says it's okay to add unsourced information. If you can't do that, then I will revert you again, and if you continue reverting after that, you will get reported. HistoryofIran ( talk) 18:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Do the name of the Vlach or bulaq that appears in the gesta hungarorum and the ethnonym that the Chinese gave to the Karluks have anything to do with each other? If so, this should be talked about in the article. CarpathianEnjoyer ( talk) 20:54, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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From an Email, I have received
Alex, hello, I am taking advantage of your E-mail offer on your Talk page. Would you please change the name of the Qarluq article from the Qarluq to Karluk. The reasons are as follows:
1. Nobody ever indicated why this funny spelling, whose dialect it tries to emulate, and what's the difference in Qa vs Ka or uk vs uq. 2. In the majority of the modern English publications, as well as in other languages with Latin script the accepted spelling is Karluk. Trying to cite a "Karluk" reference and transforming it to the "Qarluq" spelling creates a nonsensical situation. 3. Googling "Karluk" brings much more results then googling "Qarluq". 4. Googling "Karluk" brings much higher veriety of returns, reflecting the international usage of this spelling, while "Qarluq" in comparison is quite limited to a certain English zone. 5. Karluk as a last name is never spelled Qarluq. Surprisingly, the Karluks continue to carry their remote past, just like, for example, do the Alans and Franks. Have you seen a Frank spelled Phrank or Phrankh or Phranq? 6. I could cite more reasons. Much of the literature is in Russian, with its straightforward Karluk, etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Bakharev ( talk • contribs)
I have moved the paragraph on etymology that caused objections to this discussion page, to open it up for discussion, because this paragraph is in sharp conflict with the referenced part of the etymology section:
Khubilai was one of Chingis khan's 8 companions. Please not confused with Great Khan Kublai who was born in 1215. When Karluks was conquered by Khubilai general, he was not born.-- Enerelt ( talk) 02:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
How can "home rule" be "non-autonomous"??? СЛУЖБА ( talk) 00:51, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
According to Denis Sinor, the view that the Battle of Talas ended China's Central Asian presence is incorrect, it was after the battle that China shot itself in the foot by interfering with the Turkic Khaganate's affairs and ended China and their Turkic allies presence in the region.
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Cambridge_History_of_Early_Inner_Asi.html?id=ST6TRNuWmHsC
Most of the Karluk Turks converted to Islam in the 10th century, two centuries (200 years) after the Battle of Talas.
http://books.google.com/books?id=qcPZ1k65pqkC&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=uQ7k2vQlYxEC&pg=PA68#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=75FlxDhZWpwC&pg=PA68#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=imw_KFD5bsQC&pg=PA351#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=fc69BhBDjhwC&pg=PA28#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=7E8gYYcHuk8C&pg=PA84#v=onepage&q&f=false
The Karluks also fought against the Uighurs.
Rajmaan ( talk) 03:45, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
the map 'asia in 600', cuts off after note 30. Must be interference from "new policy' pop-up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.29.43 ( talk) 03:46, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
In the article, it states that "Navakat (now Karabulak)" as one of the Karluk settlements. However, "Karabulak" is the name of several settlements in the region. Clarification is needed. Verified Cactus ( talk) 19:07, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 18:09, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@ BappoEdits: I'm getting deja vu here. Please explain why random and non-academic websites like like "ariaye.com" and "mundigak.com" are WP:RS as you claimed here [1]. And please also show me the rule that says it's okay to add unsourced information. If you can't do that, then I will revert you again, and if you continue reverting after that, you will get reported. HistoryofIran ( talk) 18:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Do the name of the Vlach or bulaq that appears in the gesta hungarorum and the ethnonym that the Chinese gave to the Karluks have anything to do with each other? If so, this should be talked about in the article. CarpathianEnjoyer ( talk) 20:54, 21 February 2024 (UTC)