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See the entry I just made for Neutral ground. Under what entries do we explain two legged matches and aggregate scores? -- Dweller ( talk) 09:52, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
It's just hit me, this article is probably eligible for DYK. It remains eligible for a few days yet, so we're probably better off working on it for now and waiting until just before the five day deadline before nominating. Any early ideas on potential hooks? — W F C— 12:57, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I'm a DYK regular, and you do have enough information in the prose section (assuming the text in the prose section is original to this article and was not copied from another article). You do need to make sure you source all the information.
That incomplete tag from {{Dynamic list}} at the top of the article concerns me, as D7 of the Wikipedia:Did you know/Additional rules states, "There is a reasonable expectation that an article which is to appear on the front page, even a short one, should appear to be complete and not some sort of work in progress. Therefore, articles which include unexpanded headers are likely to be rejected..." I would advise getting a second opinion on this, as I've not encountered a DYK nominee who had that incomplete tag from {{Dynamic list}}.
Hack's suggestion for a hook is fine and is probably the best idea for a hook for this kind of article. For your reference, here are hooks for lists that were on DYK in the past 30 days:
20 May: List of accolades received by Winter's Bone
14 May: List of bordering countries with greatest relative differences in GDP (PPP) per capita
30 April: List of international cricket centuries by Andrew Strauss
25 April: List of number-one dance hits of 2005 (UK)
22 April: List of Scotland national football team hat-tricks
Hope this helps! OCNative ( talk) 05:34, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Touch wood we'll be okay for DYK; it's all procedural really, and I'm sure it'll be figured out. As an opening gambit I'd suggest we go for a hook with an image, so that we get a prominent spot on the main page. The best idea I've had so far is bicycle kick, using a cropped version of File:La camiseta de Pelé.jpg. I like Hack's ideas (the quirkier the better IMO), but I'm not so sure how we would illustrate a dummy. — W F C— 06:13, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
The upper most picture of the pitch shouldn't round the goals dimensions to 1 deciomal but 2. Goal could be added to the list too. - Koppapa ( talk) 16:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Tiny comment the artcile was created in "17:15, 18 May 2011" by The Rambling Man (talk | contribs) (580 bytes) (start stub based on discussion at WT:FOOTY) this was a great work comunity--
Feroang (
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I guess we should try to add and explain term that are in use outside of our own town, this is not a space to invent words-- Feroang ( talk) 02:51, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Should we really have actual players, such as Pelé and Maradona, in the glossary. I thought the whole point was just to explain the terminology rather than list some decent footballers. I thought I'd see what others say before I removed them though. And while I'm here - hospital ball? What? Big Dom 06:57, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
My dad has mentioned to me about a football publication which I remember reading had closed a couple of years ago. It was produced on a Saturday evening in the days before the internet, multi-sport-channels etc. to give fans results at the end of Saturday's matches (when all games kicked off at 3pm). Does anyone know what this was called - I thought it was the Pink Pages but the wikipage for this goes to an Indian LGBT newspaper lol. 03 md 19:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Some ideas are in only europe or northern hemisphere POV, when south americans, south africans and australians read it... they get crazy. For the Game For the Whole World. -- Feroang ( talk) 01:52, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Glossary of ice hockey terms have a See also that come to Ice hockey statistics, maybe we can do some simil, on it article or in somewhere else. -- Feroang ( talk) 02:55, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Should or not we add here every "weird things" that are in the "Category:Association football variants" ? -- Feroang ( talk) 06:35, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
If we all start taking letters, reference those letters, and take it upon ourselves to reference any new entries, we should be able to achieve 100% sourcing in next to no time. Sign your name by the letter(s) you're interested in keeping an eye on. I'd suggest signing one at a time, taking another letter once the letters you've taken so far are fully referenced and you're comfortable with keeping track of any new ones. — W F C— 03:05, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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I know this sounds a bit dim, but I'm having trouble referencing "club." It's always the unlikely ones! — W F C— 14:37, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
I've created the above navbox, in the hope that it will make it easier for us to streamline this glossary in future. It's very much a working draft made by an amateur template-maker, so if someone in the know feels that they can jazz it up, please do. — W F C— 07:59, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi there,
I've reviewed the article against the DYK criteria, and found a minor issue. Basically the image in the hook needs to be in the article, so either the image supplied at DYK needs to be inserted into the article, or one that is already in the article needs to replace the image supplied there. Miyagawa (talk) 12:58, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
FWIW I've asked User:Allen3 (who moved the article) to move it back to the waiting area until it can be accompanied by the image. Ditto at the DYK talk page. Fingers crossed. The Rambling Man ( talk) 21:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
A good model for other sports, too. Please check this edit I made: "but are nonetheless distinct from them". And the "Canadian" bit. PS the origin of the word "soccer" ... I never knew that. Tony (talk) 16:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
One suggestion is that the formatting be more compressed vertically, so that visitors don't have to scroll down so far, and the definitions appear to flow more smoothly from the terms. It could be changed by two global steps with the search and replace function, but it's just a thought.
current:
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Think the answer is yes? Anyway, I was changing a definition to clarify an ambigous "he" which could have meant FW or GK, then it struck me that we probably shouldn't be using "he" at all. A Ctrl+F "[space]he[space]" reveals a lot of instances of this. I can assist with cleaning this up but, seeing as the editing of this page is very active recently, I thought I'd also drop a note here too. Best, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:32, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
If anyone's got any spare time it would be great to include a few of Big Ron's superlative coinages, sourced from a WP:RS (not this excellent link, which is a blog). eg, Spotters' Badge, Lollipop, Second Post, Early Doors, Full Gun, Little Eyebrows, Amusement Arcade, Crowd Scene, Tell You What, Installments, Buddy Holly, Wide Awake Club, Watching Cartoons, Sound of the Trumpets, Reducers, For fun, Curly finger, Playing from amnesia, Double Tandem, Arrive, Change Ball, Cheating Position, Easy Oasy, Gone Empty, In Captivity, Not So Sure. I'm (not so) sure that he didn't come up with all of these – and there are many more; some are a bit obscure. But many have entered everyday football-speak and therefore would be appropriate to list in this article. Tell you what Clive, I've done an arrive early doors with "Hollywood ball" under H. Ericoides ( talk) 15:14, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Have to say this a fantastic article, well done to everyone involved! doomgaze (talk) 02:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Just fiddling about, I tried SMALL CAPS as a format for the referents and internal page-links. I'm not sure I like it any better: just a tiny bit squashy vertically. I do like the fact that the internal page-links are distinguishable from other wikilinks. See what you think, side by side: here's the normal (at letter "B") and here's the small-caps version (at "B").
In any case, I copy-edited letter "B". Please check every move I make, since I know nothing about football. Tony (talk) 17:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Timbouctou ( talk) 18:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
So, I'm not happy leaving the small caps there (in the lead and "0–9") unless people think it's an improvement. I'm not in love with the way small caps are displayed in the default font. I'm ready to undo them, but I need feedback. The only other method of distinguishing within-page links to other headliners is by italics with an initial cap, like this: ::"A common 19th- and early 20th-century Formation consisting of two defensive players (previously known as Full backs), ...".
That would mean the current italicised items (which don't have headlines in the glossary), would need to be marked with double quotes instead of italics. Hmmm ... Tony (talk) 05:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
These arise from definitions I've copy-edited.
PS is this written in BrEng? Tony (talk) 15:59, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
"Two-legged match" should probably be defined under "leg": one in a series of games between the same teams where the ultimate result is determined by aggregating the scores of all games in the series (typically two, home and away: see also "away goals rule"). "Backline" refers to the furthest back players in a contemporary football formation (where between three and five defenders are used). "Tie-break" and "knockout" are general sporting terms with no specific footballing definition: I see we include "cap", which is similar, but do we really want to include every generic sporting term which has an application in football? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 09:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Should this term be included? link.-- Echetus Xe 13:15, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
This is a very large page. In my opinion that's a good thing, and testament to the work a large number of people have done on this, but being big does have its down sides. The biggest contributory factor to page load times are citation templates, such as {{ cite web}}, {{ cite news}} etc. In a bid to improve the browsing experience for everyone, but in particular those with slow connections, I'm going to start converting these into manual citations. See Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates#Request for advice for a more technical discussion and explanation of the benefits.
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Due to this list's fairly extensive use of links to other sections of the page, I think we need to come to an agreement on if/how to distinguish between these and wikilinks to other pages. The options from the previous discussion on this matter were:
Which one should we go for, or is there another option that hasn't been considered? — WFC— 23:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Should the term berth included on Glossary of association football terms? -- Diwas ( talk) 13:54, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
sorry for maybe this stupid question, but how we call when many nationals team are playing at same time in diferent competitions in some exactly date of the year? official name of it? wiki article?-- Feroang ( talk) 05:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Acceptable term? Have noticed 'hairdryer treatment', 'FFP' and financial doping too continuing to crop up in football discussions. Lemonade51 ( talk) 18:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Mazy run is used in several articles here, cf: George Best and is jargon that must be explained. Huw Powell ( talk) 02:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
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My two cents. The term is valid. At worst, it is certainly no less valid than a number of other entries in the glossary. A few points:
Huw Powell has done nothing wrong here. He has been bold with his edit, however it is unfortunate to see some users have failed to assume good faith and have just started/participated/continued in Edit Warring instead of being civil and discussing. Ck786 ( talk) 00:00, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Would it be wrong to include the direct reference to the definition of top flight to include the base that eventually the links lead to, i.e. sports league that says to the effect that it is a group of teams or persons in a sport? Srednuas Lenoroc ( talk) 06:49, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
What are Goals from Open play? Can we have this defined on the page? 76.167.143.247 ( talk) 01:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Football rattle. Once commonly seen at games in the UK between the 1930s and 1950s. I think hey were banned in the 1970s due to their use as weapons by hooligans. - https://pipedreamsfromtheshire.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/rattles-and-rosettes.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.81.244.252 ( talk) 19:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm totally unconvinced that this is a term that has a specific meaning in football terms - it's a general term that seems, from dictionary references and the like, to have no specific footballing meaning. Does anyone have any objection if I remove it? Blue Square Thing ( talk) 13:01, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
the term AFC actually and more traditionally means Association Football Club rather than Athletic Football Club (a term that is more widely used in Spain eg Atletico Madrid)
it has also more recently come to mean A Fans Club after the recent spate of fans setting up their own teams either in protest to a clubs owners, (AFC Liverpool) or because the club was moved to a new place or "franchised" to use the american term (AFC Wimbledon)
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Could someone provide a brief explanation as to what is a century/centuries in what I guess is scoring in football? 2605:E000:9143:7000:C5F1:4D46:5736:7016 ( talk) 20:58, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
This Fletcher stuff has nothing to do with my question. 2605:E000:9143:7000:C5F1:4D46:5736:7016 ( talk) 21:00, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
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It is ridiculous to single out France. Calling a league a "farmer's league" is a common way for, predominantly English fans, to denigrate leagues they consider lesser. They do this for far more than France. Some examples for Germany alone:
The unifying feature here is not France, but how the English describe leagues other than their own. To put so much emphasis on France is a violation of WP:UNDUE, specifically "Wikipedia should not present a dispute as if a view held by a small minority is as significant as the majority view. Views held by a tiny minority should not be represented except in articles devoted to those views (such as the flat Earth). Giving undue weight to the view of a significant minority or including that of a tiny minority might be misleading as to the shape of the dispute. Wikipedia aims to present competing views in proportion to their representation in reliable sources on the subject. This rule applies not only to article text but to images, wikilinks, external links, categories, templates, and all other material as well." 155.188.183.89 ( talk) 18:41, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
I have attempted to edit out the term “Jew goal” for the second time. I am not very familiar with the editing process on here but would appreciate anyone’s support in maintaining this change.
Here was my reasoning listed on the edit:
I deleted the anti-semitic term “Jew goal.” Although the definition notes that the term is anti-semitic, I believe the term’s inclusion is still inappropriate in this context—that of a glossary of association football terms. This term would be offensive in present-day spoken or written communication, and therefore does not belong on this page. I did not spot any other racist or offensive terms on this page, although any additional such terms should also be deleted, if they exist. Inclusion of this term would be suitable, for example, in an article discussing anti-semitism, or the history of racism in football. However, in this article, its very inclusion is anti-semitic. 2601:58B:E80:1790:79D1:3E3B:C0E0:556 ( talk) 04:13, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
This is more a question of if there is another glossary article, or the potential for a separate glossary article, that lists national team nicknames - and maybe club and player ones, too. The use of accepted shortenings of long names is prolific on Wikipedia, with team nicknames appearing frequently both here and in media. I am fully of the mind that subject-specific terminology and a list of common nicknames are different things, and agree with not having nicknames at this article. But I do think it could be beneficial to have such a glossary somewhere. As it is, I haven't found one. Do maintainers of this article (ping @ Egghead06 and Jay eyem: who seem to be those maintainers) know of one? And if it doesn't exist, do other users think it would be a good idea? Kingsif ( talk) 05:47, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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See the entry I just made for Neutral ground. Under what entries do we explain two legged matches and aggregate scores? -- Dweller ( talk) 09:52, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
It's just hit me, this article is probably eligible for DYK. It remains eligible for a few days yet, so we're probably better off working on it for now and waiting until just before the five day deadline before nominating. Any early ideas on potential hooks? — W F C— 12:57, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I'm a DYK regular, and you do have enough information in the prose section (assuming the text in the prose section is original to this article and was not copied from another article). You do need to make sure you source all the information.
That incomplete tag from {{Dynamic list}} at the top of the article concerns me, as D7 of the Wikipedia:Did you know/Additional rules states, "There is a reasonable expectation that an article which is to appear on the front page, even a short one, should appear to be complete and not some sort of work in progress. Therefore, articles which include unexpanded headers are likely to be rejected..." I would advise getting a second opinion on this, as I've not encountered a DYK nominee who had that incomplete tag from {{Dynamic list}}.
Hack's suggestion for a hook is fine and is probably the best idea for a hook for this kind of article. For your reference, here are hooks for lists that were on DYK in the past 30 days:
20 May: List of accolades received by Winter's Bone
14 May: List of bordering countries with greatest relative differences in GDP (PPP) per capita
30 April: List of international cricket centuries by Andrew Strauss
25 April: List of number-one dance hits of 2005 (UK)
22 April: List of Scotland national football team hat-tricks
Hope this helps! OCNative ( talk) 05:34, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Touch wood we'll be okay for DYK; it's all procedural really, and I'm sure it'll be figured out. As an opening gambit I'd suggest we go for a hook with an image, so that we get a prominent spot on the main page. The best idea I've had so far is bicycle kick, using a cropped version of File:La camiseta de Pelé.jpg. I like Hack's ideas (the quirkier the better IMO), but I'm not so sure how we would illustrate a dummy. — W F C— 06:13, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
The upper most picture of the pitch shouldn't round the goals dimensions to 1 deciomal but 2. Goal could be added to the list too. - Koppapa ( talk) 16:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Tiny comment the artcile was created in "17:15, 18 May 2011" by The Rambling Man (talk | contribs) (580 bytes) (start stub based on discussion at WT:FOOTY) this was a great work comunity--
Feroang (
talk) 02:34, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
I guess we should try to add and explain term that are in use outside of our own town, this is not a space to invent words-- Feroang ( talk) 02:51, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Should we really have actual players, such as Pelé and Maradona, in the glossary. I thought the whole point was just to explain the terminology rather than list some decent footballers. I thought I'd see what others say before I removed them though. And while I'm here - hospital ball? What? Big Dom 06:57, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
My dad has mentioned to me about a football publication which I remember reading had closed a couple of years ago. It was produced on a Saturday evening in the days before the internet, multi-sport-channels etc. to give fans results at the end of Saturday's matches (when all games kicked off at 3pm). Does anyone know what this was called - I thought it was the Pink Pages but the wikipage for this goes to an Indian LGBT newspaper lol. 03 md 19:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Some ideas are in only europe or northern hemisphere POV, when south americans, south africans and australians read it... they get crazy. For the Game For the Whole World. -- Feroang ( talk) 01:52, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Glossary of ice hockey terms have a See also that come to Ice hockey statistics, maybe we can do some simil, on it article or in somewhere else. -- Feroang ( talk) 02:55, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Should or not we add here every "weird things" that are in the "Category:Association football variants" ? -- Feroang ( talk) 06:35, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
If we all start taking letters, reference those letters, and take it upon ourselves to reference any new entries, we should be able to achieve 100% sourcing in next to no time. Sign your name by the letter(s) you're interested in keeping an eye on. I'd suggest signing one at a time, taking another letter once the letters you've taken so far are fully referenced and you're comfortable with keeping track of any new ones. — W F C— 03:05, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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I know this sounds a bit dim, but I'm having trouble referencing "club." It's always the unlikely ones! — W F C— 14:37, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
I've created the above navbox, in the hope that it will make it easier for us to streamline this glossary in future. It's very much a working draft made by an amateur template-maker, so if someone in the know feels that they can jazz it up, please do. — W F C— 07:59, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi there,
I've reviewed the article against the DYK criteria, and found a minor issue. Basically the image in the hook needs to be in the article, so either the image supplied at DYK needs to be inserted into the article, or one that is already in the article needs to replace the image supplied there. Miyagawa (talk) 12:58, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
FWIW I've asked User:Allen3 (who moved the article) to move it back to the waiting area until it can be accompanied by the image. Ditto at the DYK talk page. Fingers crossed. The Rambling Man ( talk) 21:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
A good model for other sports, too. Please check this edit I made: "but are nonetheless distinct from them". And the "Canadian" bit. PS the origin of the word "soccer" ... I never knew that. Tony (talk) 16:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
One suggestion is that the formatting be more compressed vertically, so that visitors don't have to scroll down so far, and the definitions appear to flow more smoothly from the terms. It could be changed by two global steps with the search and replace function, but it's just a thought.
current:
References
Think the answer is yes? Anyway, I was changing a definition to clarify an ambigous "he" which could have meant FW or GK, then it struck me that we probably shouldn't be using "he" at all. A Ctrl+F "[space]he[space]" reveals a lot of instances of this. I can assist with cleaning this up but, seeing as the editing of this page is very active recently, I thought I'd also drop a note here too. Best, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:32, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
If anyone's got any spare time it would be great to include a few of Big Ron's superlative coinages, sourced from a WP:RS (not this excellent link, which is a blog). eg, Spotters' Badge, Lollipop, Second Post, Early Doors, Full Gun, Little Eyebrows, Amusement Arcade, Crowd Scene, Tell You What, Installments, Buddy Holly, Wide Awake Club, Watching Cartoons, Sound of the Trumpets, Reducers, For fun, Curly finger, Playing from amnesia, Double Tandem, Arrive, Change Ball, Cheating Position, Easy Oasy, Gone Empty, In Captivity, Not So Sure. I'm (not so) sure that he didn't come up with all of these – and there are many more; some are a bit obscure. But many have entered everyday football-speak and therefore would be appropriate to list in this article. Tell you what Clive, I've done an arrive early doors with "Hollywood ball" under H. Ericoides ( talk) 15:14, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Have to say this a fantastic article, well done to everyone involved! doomgaze (talk) 02:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Just fiddling about, I tried SMALL CAPS as a format for the referents and internal page-links. I'm not sure I like it any better: just a tiny bit squashy vertically. I do like the fact that the internal page-links are distinguishable from other wikilinks. See what you think, side by side: here's the normal (at letter "B") and here's the small-caps version (at "B").
In any case, I copy-edited letter "B". Please check every move I make, since I know nothing about football. Tony (talk) 17:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Timbouctou ( talk) 18:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
So, I'm not happy leaving the small caps there (in the lead and "0–9") unless people think it's an improvement. I'm not in love with the way small caps are displayed in the default font. I'm ready to undo them, but I need feedback. The only other method of distinguishing within-page links to other headliners is by italics with an initial cap, like this: ::"A common 19th- and early 20th-century Formation consisting of two defensive players (previously known as Full backs), ...".
That would mean the current italicised items (which don't have headlines in the glossary), would need to be marked with double quotes instead of italics. Hmmm ... Tony (talk) 05:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
These arise from definitions I've copy-edited.
PS is this written in BrEng? Tony (talk) 15:59, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
"Two-legged match" should probably be defined under "leg": one in a series of games between the same teams where the ultimate result is determined by aggregating the scores of all games in the series (typically two, home and away: see also "away goals rule"). "Backline" refers to the furthest back players in a contemporary football formation (where between three and five defenders are used). "Tie-break" and "knockout" are general sporting terms with no specific footballing definition: I see we include "cap", which is similar, but do we really want to include every generic sporting term which has an application in football? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 09:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Should this term be included? link.-- Echetus Xe 13:15, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
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Due to this list's fairly extensive use of links to other sections of the page, I think we need to come to an agreement on if/how to distinguish between these and wikilinks to other pages. The options from the previous discussion on this matter were:
Which one should we go for, or is there another option that hasn't been considered? — WFC— 23:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Should the term berth included on Glossary of association football terms? -- Diwas ( talk) 13:54, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
sorry for maybe this stupid question, but how we call when many nationals team are playing at same time in diferent competitions in some exactly date of the year? official name of it? wiki article?-- Feroang ( talk) 05:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Acceptable term? Have noticed 'hairdryer treatment', 'FFP' and financial doping too continuing to crop up in football discussions. Lemonade51 ( talk) 18:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Mazy run is used in several articles here, cf: George Best and is jargon that must be explained. Huw Powell ( talk) 02:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
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My two cents. The term is valid. At worst, it is certainly no less valid than a number of other entries in the glossary. A few points:
Huw Powell has done nothing wrong here. He has been bold with his edit, however it is unfortunate to see some users have failed to assume good faith and have just started/participated/continued in Edit Warring instead of being civil and discussing. Ck786 ( talk) 00:00, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Would it be wrong to include the direct reference to the definition of top flight to include the base that eventually the links lead to, i.e. sports league that says to the effect that it is a group of teams or persons in a sport? Srednuas Lenoroc ( talk) 06:49, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
What are Goals from Open play? Can we have this defined on the page? 76.167.143.247 ( talk) 01:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Football rattle. Once commonly seen at games in the UK between the 1930s and 1950s. I think hey were banned in the 1970s due to their use as weapons by hooligans. - https://pipedreamsfromtheshire.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/rattles-and-rosettes.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.81.244.252 ( talk) 19:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm totally unconvinced that this is a term that has a specific meaning in football terms - it's a general term that seems, from dictionary references and the like, to have no specific footballing meaning. Does anyone have any objection if I remove it? Blue Square Thing ( talk) 13:01, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
the term AFC actually and more traditionally means Association Football Club rather than Athletic Football Club (a term that is more widely used in Spain eg Atletico Madrid)
it has also more recently come to mean A Fans Club after the recent spate of fans setting up their own teams either in protest to a clubs owners, (AFC Liverpool) or because the club was moved to a new place or "franchised" to use the american term (AFC Wimbledon)
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Could someone provide a brief explanation as to what is a century/centuries in what I guess is scoring in football? 2605:E000:9143:7000:C5F1:4D46:5736:7016 ( talk) 20:58, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
This Fletcher stuff has nothing to do with my question. 2605:E000:9143:7000:C5F1:4D46:5736:7016 ( talk) 21:00, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
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It is ridiculous to single out France. Calling a league a "farmer's league" is a common way for, predominantly English fans, to denigrate leagues they consider lesser. They do this for far more than France. Some examples for Germany alone:
The unifying feature here is not France, but how the English describe leagues other than their own. To put so much emphasis on France is a violation of WP:UNDUE, specifically "Wikipedia should not present a dispute as if a view held by a small minority is as significant as the majority view. Views held by a tiny minority should not be represented except in articles devoted to those views (such as the flat Earth). Giving undue weight to the view of a significant minority or including that of a tiny minority might be misleading as to the shape of the dispute. Wikipedia aims to present competing views in proportion to their representation in reliable sources on the subject. This rule applies not only to article text but to images, wikilinks, external links, categories, templates, and all other material as well." 155.188.183.89 ( talk) 18:41, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
I have attempted to edit out the term “Jew goal” for the second time. I am not very familiar with the editing process on here but would appreciate anyone’s support in maintaining this change.
Here was my reasoning listed on the edit:
I deleted the anti-semitic term “Jew goal.” Although the definition notes that the term is anti-semitic, I believe the term’s inclusion is still inappropriate in this context—that of a glossary of association football terms. This term would be offensive in present-day spoken or written communication, and therefore does not belong on this page. I did not spot any other racist or offensive terms on this page, although any additional such terms should also be deleted, if they exist. Inclusion of this term would be suitable, for example, in an article discussing anti-semitism, or the history of racism in football. However, in this article, its very inclusion is anti-semitic. 2601:58B:E80:1790:79D1:3E3B:C0E0:556 ( talk) 04:13, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
This is more a question of if there is another glossary article, or the potential for a separate glossary article, that lists national team nicknames - and maybe club and player ones, too. The use of accepted shortenings of long names is prolific on Wikipedia, with team nicknames appearing frequently both here and in media. I am fully of the mind that subject-specific terminology and a list of common nicknames are different things, and agree with not having nicknames at this article. But I do think it could be beneficial to have such a glossary somewhere. As it is, I haven't found one. Do maintainers of this article (ping @ Egghead06 and Jay eyem: who seem to be those maintainers) know of one? And if it doesn't exist, do other users think it would be a good idea? Kingsif ( talk) 05:47, 31 December 2022 (UTC)