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A lot of people still call it Kiev, as that’s what we have our whole lives, should we have it so it’s displayed as Ghost of Kiev (or Kyiv) or the other way around? ItalianGigachad ( talk) 22:38, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
This article is about a mythical character, and the entries in "see also" section should be mythical as well. I removed one non-mythical entry ( 8-Pass Charlie), but Pr0pulsion 123 reverted my edit with a very cryptic edit summary. I don't know why 8-Pass Charlie should be added. I would like Pr0pulsion 123 to present their opinion. As my reasoning is sound, I will remove the non-mythical character for now. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:12, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
This articles on Russia's blunders has a full section on Ukrainian airforce surviving early strikes and continuing the fight at a time it was officially out of combat. The Ghost of Kyiv was the whole Ukraine airforce still working when it should not have. Search "Ukrainian pilot" or "Oleksii" in that article. Source: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/16/world/europe/russia-putin-war-failures-ukraine.html Yug (talk) 🐲 18:10, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
The first use of the word mythical (wikilinked to "legend") is quite colloquial, and probably not the best for an encyclopaedia. This ghost is known modern fake news, known to not exist, not a simple old time legend, or even an urban legend. 117.194.205.171 ( talk) 22:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
Doesn't make any sense. It was straight up fake news, not real. Why are there such different and inconsistent standards on this website? 217.174.52.232 ( talk) 19:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
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In the first sentence of “Background and Claims” the text mentions that Russia began a large scale invasion. To be more accurate to the present situation I would mention attached to any invasion term on the article, the word “ATTEMPT”, because until now, the large scale invasion hasn’t succeed. Thank you. Balbareto ( talk) 16:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Someone made a Manga about the ghost https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14800527 2603:8000:2942:4A00:31CC:DAAE:AEA0:9097 ( talk) 21:35, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
The article and citations make it very clear that no singular "flying ace" shot down 5 enemy aircraft.
However the veracity of the each supposed event is not discussed. The six planes were reported as two Su-35s, two Su-25s, an Su-27, and an enemy MiG-29.
Did any of these shootdowns occur? Were they by multiple pilots, then attributed to a singular mythical "Ghost of Kyiv"? Were the planes destroyed, but by something other than a fighter jet? Are any of the supposed aircraft losses actually documented or true?
Article could be improved by showing evidence for each individual claim.
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A lot of people still call it Kiev, as that’s what we have our whole lives, should we have it so it’s displayed as Ghost of Kiev (or Kyiv) or the other way around? ItalianGigachad ( talk) 22:38, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
This article is about a mythical character, and the entries in "see also" section should be mythical as well. I removed one non-mythical entry ( 8-Pass Charlie), but Pr0pulsion 123 reverted my edit with a very cryptic edit summary. I don't know why 8-Pass Charlie should be added. I would like Pr0pulsion 123 to present their opinion. As my reasoning is sound, I will remove the non-mythical character for now. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:12, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
This articles on Russia's blunders has a full section on Ukrainian airforce surviving early strikes and continuing the fight at a time it was officially out of combat. The Ghost of Kyiv was the whole Ukraine airforce still working when it should not have. Search "Ukrainian pilot" or "Oleksii" in that article. Source: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/16/world/europe/russia-putin-war-failures-ukraine.html Yug (talk) 🐲 18:10, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
The first use of the word mythical (wikilinked to "legend") is quite colloquial, and probably not the best for an encyclopaedia. This ghost is known modern fake news, known to not exist, not a simple old time legend, or even an urban legend. 117.194.205.171 ( talk) 22:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
Doesn't make any sense. It was straight up fake news, not real. Why are there such different and inconsistent standards on this website? 217.174.52.232 ( talk) 19:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
In the first sentence of “Background and Claims” the text mentions that Russia began a large scale invasion. To be more accurate to the present situation I would mention attached to any invasion term on the article, the word “ATTEMPT”, because until now, the large scale invasion hasn’t succeed. Thank you. Balbareto ( talk) 16:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Someone made a Manga about the ghost https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14800527 2603:8000:2942:4A00:31CC:DAAE:AEA0:9097 ( talk) 21:35, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
The article and citations make it very clear that no singular "flying ace" shot down 5 enemy aircraft.
However the veracity of the each supposed event is not discussed. The six planes were reported as two Su-35s, two Su-25s, an Su-27, and an enemy MiG-29.
Did any of these shootdowns occur? Were they by multiple pilots, then attributed to a singular mythical "Ghost of Kyiv"? Were the planes destroyed, but by something other than a fighter jet? Are any of the supposed aircraft losses actually documented or true?
Article could be improved by showing evidence for each individual claim.