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The value of her work
The combined value of her work...
Does this sound a bit materialistic? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
PiCo (
talk •
contribs) 05:09, 7 October 2005 (UTC)reply
Possibly, but something in the intro needs to say why she is notable. A book ive got says she is the "top grossing" aboriginal artist, not sure if that sounds great either.
Cfitzart 05:34, 7 October 2005 (UTC)reply
Put it in the context of Aboriginal art: it is their only export industry and most likely is the only form of income for
Utopia, Northern Territory. The clan members who insisted she continued to paint, when she wanted to stop, were not interested in placing her paintings in art competitions - they were interested in putting the finished works up for sale.
Garrie 21:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)reply
Is it really the first thing you want to say to characterize the artist? Wouldn't it be better to state that she is one of the major (if not THE major) aboriginal artists?
Spaccapi (
talk •
contribs) 12:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)reply
That's a fair point, but Earth's Creation did just set the record for sale price of an Aboriginal work ... -
David Gerard 11:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)reply
I've moved the note of her sales down to the 'success' section, and noted that she was one of the most prominent and successful artists (borne out in the body of the piece).
Nktpr (
talk) 04:11, 13 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Commercial gallery links
Please don't put in links to galleries selling works - it isn't consistent with WP:EL and undermines the independent stance of entries like these. See also my
talk page. hamiltonstone 09:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)reply
I've dropped external links to pages relating to Mbantua gallery to the bottom of the list, as they are obv. less important than the NGA page - however, I wonder if these should be deleted entirely given they're effectively promoting a commercial gallery (with a museum wing)?
Nktpr (
talk) 23:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Good question. I've thought about this, and seen the (non-commercial) wing of their operation in Alice. On balance, I was prepared to let this one go, as the website to which this link refers does not make obvious attempts to sell works or link to the sales area. It seems to me to be a good-faith attempt to present her work as a serious non-commercial gallery might do, and should be respected for that. Its importance is also boosted by the recent acquisition of such a major work.
hamiltonstone (
talk) 02:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Yes, fair enough. It's a fine line, but I think you're probably right. Thanks.
Nktpr (
talk) 06:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Title
As we implictly acknowledge in the lede, she is generally known as Emily Kame Kngwarreye, not just Emily Kngwarreye. So, why the shortened article title? --
Jack of Oz[Talk] 09:42, 23 March 2013 (UTC)reply
Reasonable question. One of the major books about her does not use "Kame" in the title. i agree most other high quality sources (including NGA and NMA) do. A preface (titled "out of respect", p. 11) in the NMA's major 2008 publication explicitly states that the artist expressed a view in the lead up to the major retrospective of her work (which she did not live to see) that "in the event of her death, her name be used in full for her professional life as an artist, for exhibitions and in publications". Given the artist's preference for, and the widespread use in publications of, the full name, I think the article should be moved, and "Emily Kngwarreye" become a redirect.
hamiltonstone (
talk) 12:03, 23 March 2013 (UTC)reply
1990: "Contemporary Aboriginal Art", Carpenter Centre for the Visual Arts, Harvard Uni. Massachusetts, USA
1992: "Aboriginal Paintings from the Desert", touring Russia; "Crossroads, Towards a New Reality, Aboriginal Art from Australia", National Museum of Modern Art, Kyoto and Tokyo
1993: "Aratjara – Australian Aboriginal Art", touring Germany, London (Haywood Gallery) and Denmark (Louisiana regional gallery)
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The value of her work
The combined value of her work...
Does this sound a bit materialistic? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
PiCo (
talk •
contribs) 05:09, 7 October 2005 (UTC)reply
Possibly, but something in the intro needs to say why she is notable. A book ive got says she is the "top grossing" aboriginal artist, not sure if that sounds great either.
Cfitzart 05:34, 7 October 2005 (UTC)reply
Put it in the context of Aboriginal art: it is their only export industry and most likely is the only form of income for
Utopia, Northern Territory. The clan members who insisted she continued to paint, when she wanted to stop, were not interested in placing her paintings in art competitions - they were interested in putting the finished works up for sale.
Garrie 21:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)reply
Is it really the first thing you want to say to characterize the artist? Wouldn't it be better to state that she is one of the major (if not THE major) aboriginal artists?
Spaccapi (
talk •
contribs) 12:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)reply
That's a fair point, but Earth's Creation did just set the record for sale price of an Aboriginal work ... -
David Gerard 11:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)reply
I've moved the note of her sales down to the 'success' section, and noted that she was one of the most prominent and successful artists (borne out in the body of the piece).
Nktpr (
talk) 04:11, 13 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Commercial gallery links
Please don't put in links to galleries selling works - it isn't consistent with WP:EL and undermines the independent stance of entries like these. See also my
talk page. hamiltonstone 09:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)reply
I've dropped external links to pages relating to Mbantua gallery to the bottom of the list, as they are obv. less important than the NGA page - however, I wonder if these should be deleted entirely given they're effectively promoting a commercial gallery (with a museum wing)?
Nktpr (
talk) 23:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Good question. I've thought about this, and seen the (non-commercial) wing of their operation in Alice. On balance, I was prepared to let this one go, as the website to which this link refers does not make obvious attempts to sell works or link to the sales area. It seems to me to be a good-faith attempt to present her work as a serious non-commercial gallery might do, and should be respected for that. Its importance is also boosted by the recent acquisition of such a major work.
hamiltonstone (
talk) 02:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Yes, fair enough. It's a fine line, but I think you're probably right. Thanks.
Nktpr (
talk) 06:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Title
As we implictly acknowledge in the lede, she is generally known as Emily Kame Kngwarreye, not just Emily Kngwarreye. So, why the shortened article title? --
Jack of Oz[Talk] 09:42, 23 March 2013 (UTC)reply
Reasonable question. One of the major books about her does not use "Kame" in the title. i agree most other high quality sources (including NGA and NMA) do. A preface (titled "out of respect", p. 11) in the NMA's major 2008 publication explicitly states that the artist expressed a view in the lead up to the major retrospective of her work (which she did not live to see) that "in the event of her death, her name be used in full for her professional life as an artist, for exhibitions and in publications". Given the artist's preference for, and the widespread use in publications of, the full name, I think the article should be moved, and "Emily Kngwarreye" become a redirect.
hamiltonstone (
talk) 12:03, 23 March 2013 (UTC)reply
1990: "Contemporary Aboriginal Art", Carpenter Centre for the Visual Arts, Harvard Uni. Massachusetts, USA
1992: "Aboriginal Paintings from the Desert", touring Russia; "Crossroads, Towards a New Reality, Aboriginal Art from Australia", National Museum of Modern Art, Kyoto and Tokyo
1993: "Aratjara – Australian Aboriginal Art", touring Germany, London (Haywood Gallery) and Denmark (Louisiana regional gallery)