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You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Reviewer: Pyrotec ( talk) 20:35, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
This article looks unfinished to me: there are a number of empty sections and/or subsections, they either need to be populated with text or removed. They are:
However, I will continue with this review and will review each section in turn against WP:WIAGA, but leaving the WP:Lead until last. Pyrotec ( talk) 11:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
* Present Employers -
::* Ref 5 appears to be a book. It needs to be properly referenced.
Pyrotec (
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* Industrial Revolution -
....to be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 12:30, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
....to be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 13:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
....to be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 17:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Consider the following link for a source of information regarding the emergence of Pittsburgh's "Eds & Meds" economy: EdsMedsPittsburgh.org CrazyPaco ( talk) 22:27, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello all, impeccable work on the article so far, Kudos all round.
I would however give a few pointers on how to correctly CITE and how to use <ref name= > and the use of citation templates.
The most common ref you are going to use for this article is {{ cite book}} reading through the template pages should give you a very good idea of how to use them. You don't have to fill out all the information on every cite. however the more information the merrier. title= is the only field that is compulsory for {{ cite book}}.
So using Globalization in World History as an example you would fill it out like this: <ref>{{cite book |last1=Hopkins |first1= A.G.|authorlink1= A.G._Hopkins |last2= |first2= |editor1-first= |editor1-last= |editor1-link= |others= |title=Globilization in World History|trans_title= |url= |format= |accessdate= |edition= |series= |volume= |date= |year=2003|month= |origyear= |publisher=Norton|location=[[New York City]] |language= |isbn=0393979423|oclc= |doi= |id= |page= |pages= |trans_chapter= |chapter= |chapterurl= |quote= |ref= |bibcode= |laysummary= |laydate= |separator= |postscript= |lastauthoramp=}}</ref>
As you can see this has left rather a large amount of fields unfilled, that's okay, in fact we can get rid of them, leaving us with this: <ref>{{cite book |last1=Hopkins |first1= A.G.|authorlink1= A.G._Hopkins|title=Globilization in World History|year=2003|publisher=Norton|location=[[New York City]]|isbn=0393979423}}</ref>
Now, obviously, you are using the book multiple times through the article so rather than cutting an pasting each and every time I'm going to show you how to use <ref name= > so what we are going to do is give the reference a name, we'll call it "hopkins", but you can all it anything "Globalization", "global" or even "asghd" or "iu43gh", ANYTHING, but to make it easy to remember we'll just stick with "hopkins" (it is cAsE SenSItiVE) so make sure you stick with either upper- or lower-case. So you simply put in <ref name= > the first time that you use the ref instead of <ref> and then every time you want to use that ref you simply put in <ref name=hopkins/> So now every time that you want to reference Globalization in World History all you need to do is put in <ref name=hopkins/>.
Now you want to quote an individual page, but you don't want to have to cut and paste and modify the cite each time you ref a page, so (as odd as this may sound) ignore what I just told you. Well, not entirely. we'll still use <ref name= > so when we want to quote page three multiple times we'll call our new ref "hop3" and when we quote page 21 we'll call that "hop21", but again it can be anything so now we'll fill the article full of this; <ref name=hop3>Hopkins 2003, page 3</ref> [1] and this; <ref name=hop21>Hopkins 2003, page 21</ref> [2], then whenever you want to ref page three you simply put in <ref name=hop3/> [1] and to ref page 21 use <ref name=hop21/> [2]
Then we need to split the references section at the bottom in two: ==Notes== and ==References== in ==Notes== we'll stick the {{ reflist}} template, and since it is a particularly large amount of references will split it into 4 columns by writing it like this: {{reflist|4}} this will automatically list all the <ref>'s throughout the article and sort them into 4 even columns for us.
Under the ==References== We'll list each of the books like this: {{cite book |last1=Hopkins |first1= A.G.|authorlink1= A.G._Hopkins|title=Globilization in World History|year=2003|publisher=Norton|location=[[New York City]]|isbn=0393979423}}. That way when people see "Hopkins 2003, Page 3" listed under ==Notes== they'll know to look for it under ==References== for Hopkins name.
If you've done it all properly it should look like below.
Hopkins, A.G. (2003). Globilization in World History. New York City: Norton. ISBN 0393979423.
You may also want to check out the various other citation templates and use those in the article. Sanguis Sanies ( talk) 17:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I am also having difficulty getting images on the page. I am trying to get an image from wikipedia commons but I am not sure how to do that. I am also having difficulty on what images to put up. The one I found on wikicommons was of Pittsburgh's skyline. I have a few charts and graphs from government websites but I don't want to go outside of wiki guidelines. Any suggestions/instructions? Tuna12 ( talk) 05:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I have found a graph from a government web site [1] that I should be able to use I just have no idea how to put it on as well as the chart I found [2] any help for getting them on the article page at a bigger size that the current thumbnail. Tuna12 ( talk) 05:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I have found a good chart of the top private employers on http://www.alleghenyconference.org/PRA/RegionalData/CountyAllegheny.asp. I am not sure if I can use it in the article or if I have to create my own. Any instruction on how to incorporate this into the article would be great. Tuna12 ( talk) 00:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
The major employers sections are almost entirely copied from external sites. I began trying to temporarily address this with quotation marks, but each section then becomes a separate violation of WP:NFC, which forbids extensive quotation. The "Transition into the Present Economy" section copies from [3]. (See under "Which Parts of the Region Are Creating Jobs?" at that source.) Under "Twenty First Century Progression", there is duplication of [4]: "Financial analysts are cautiously optimistic..." "Film making is another emerging industry...." The article has had to be blanked as other sections are evaluation for content issues. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
I edited a little section on the twenty first century progression by paraphrasing from the source yins said I used to long of quotations. I am hoping that this is a good source since I found it on a .gov website [8] and I think moonriddengirl provided the link to the pdf [9]. I want to make sure that this is a good source and if I cited it correctly. I used the pdf from the Pittsburgh regional alliance website. I am wondering if this is a good source as well because it has a lot of information. Another thing I was confused about was in the references it says the article incorporates public domain material, which I thought we could use, and then has a link to the page. I was wondering if I can use this information and its charts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuna12 ( talk • contribs) 03:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
←Since this has now been listed for over two weeks, I have removed the contents that remained infringements that were not addressed. I have added proposed alterations from the temporary page, which has been deleted. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
A list of sources that I would use to further the economic development section. Are these sufficient?
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As your article has now reached a state that it can be reviewed, here are some comments:
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Reviewer: Pyrotec ( talk) 20:35, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
This article looks unfinished to me: there are a number of empty sections and/or subsections, they either need to be populated with text or removed. They are:
However, I will continue with this review and will review each section in turn against WP:WIAGA, but leaving the WP:Lead until last. Pyrotec ( talk) 11:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
* Present Employers -
::* Ref 5 appears to be a book. It needs to be properly referenced.
Pyrotec (
talk) 17:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
* Industrial Revolution -
....to be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 12:30, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
....to be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 13:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
....to be continued. Pyrotec ( talk) 17:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Consider the following link for a source of information regarding the emergence of Pittsburgh's "Eds & Meds" economy: EdsMedsPittsburgh.org CrazyPaco ( talk) 22:27, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello all, impeccable work on the article so far, Kudos all round.
I would however give a few pointers on how to correctly CITE and how to use <ref name= > and the use of citation templates.
The most common ref you are going to use for this article is {{ cite book}} reading through the template pages should give you a very good idea of how to use them. You don't have to fill out all the information on every cite. however the more information the merrier. title= is the only field that is compulsory for {{ cite book}}.
So using Globalization in World History as an example you would fill it out like this: <ref>{{cite book |last1=Hopkins |first1= A.G.|authorlink1= A.G._Hopkins |last2= |first2= |editor1-first= |editor1-last= |editor1-link= |others= |title=Globilization in World History|trans_title= |url= |format= |accessdate= |edition= |series= |volume= |date= |year=2003|month= |origyear= |publisher=Norton|location=[[New York City]] |language= |isbn=0393979423|oclc= |doi= |id= |page= |pages= |trans_chapter= |chapter= |chapterurl= |quote= |ref= |bibcode= |laysummary= |laydate= |separator= |postscript= |lastauthoramp=}}</ref>
As you can see this has left rather a large amount of fields unfilled, that's okay, in fact we can get rid of them, leaving us with this: <ref>{{cite book |last1=Hopkins |first1= A.G.|authorlink1= A.G._Hopkins|title=Globilization in World History|year=2003|publisher=Norton|location=[[New York City]]|isbn=0393979423}}</ref>
Now, obviously, you are using the book multiple times through the article so rather than cutting an pasting each and every time I'm going to show you how to use <ref name= > so what we are going to do is give the reference a name, we'll call it "hopkins", but you can all it anything "Globalization", "global" or even "asghd" or "iu43gh", ANYTHING, but to make it easy to remember we'll just stick with "hopkins" (it is cAsE SenSItiVE) so make sure you stick with either upper- or lower-case. So you simply put in <ref name= > the first time that you use the ref instead of <ref> and then every time you want to use that ref you simply put in <ref name=hopkins/> So now every time that you want to reference Globalization in World History all you need to do is put in <ref name=hopkins/>.
Now you want to quote an individual page, but you don't want to have to cut and paste and modify the cite each time you ref a page, so (as odd as this may sound) ignore what I just told you. Well, not entirely. we'll still use <ref name= > so when we want to quote page three multiple times we'll call our new ref "hop3" and when we quote page 21 we'll call that "hop21", but again it can be anything so now we'll fill the article full of this; <ref name=hop3>Hopkins 2003, page 3</ref> [1] and this; <ref name=hop21>Hopkins 2003, page 21</ref> [2], then whenever you want to ref page three you simply put in <ref name=hop3/> [1] and to ref page 21 use <ref name=hop21/> [2]
Then we need to split the references section at the bottom in two: ==Notes== and ==References== in ==Notes== we'll stick the {{ reflist}} template, and since it is a particularly large amount of references will split it into 4 columns by writing it like this: {{reflist|4}} this will automatically list all the <ref>'s throughout the article and sort them into 4 even columns for us.
Under the ==References== We'll list each of the books like this: {{cite book |last1=Hopkins |first1= A.G.|authorlink1= A.G._Hopkins|title=Globilization in World History|year=2003|publisher=Norton|location=[[New York City]]|isbn=0393979423}}. That way when people see "Hopkins 2003, Page 3" listed under ==Notes== they'll know to look for it under ==References== for Hopkins name.
If you've done it all properly it should look like below.
Hopkins, A.G. (2003). Globilization in World History. New York City: Norton. ISBN 0393979423.
You may also want to check out the various other citation templates and use those in the article. Sanguis Sanies ( talk) 17:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I am also having difficulty getting images on the page. I am trying to get an image from wikipedia commons but I am not sure how to do that. I am also having difficulty on what images to put up. The one I found on wikicommons was of Pittsburgh's skyline. I have a few charts and graphs from government websites but I don't want to go outside of wiki guidelines. Any suggestions/instructions? Tuna12 ( talk) 05:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I have found a graph from a government web site [1] that I should be able to use I just have no idea how to put it on as well as the chart I found [2] any help for getting them on the article page at a bigger size that the current thumbnail. Tuna12 ( talk) 05:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I have found a good chart of the top private employers on http://www.alleghenyconference.org/PRA/RegionalData/CountyAllegheny.asp. I am not sure if I can use it in the article or if I have to create my own. Any instruction on how to incorporate this into the article would be great. Tuna12 ( talk) 00:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
The major employers sections are almost entirely copied from external sites. I began trying to temporarily address this with quotation marks, but each section then becomes a separate violation of WP:NFC, which forbids extensive quotation. The "Transition into the Present Economy" section copies from [3]. (See under "Which Parts of the Region Are Creating Jobs?" at that source.) Under "Twenty First Century Progression", there is duplication of [4]: "Financial analysts are cautiously optimistic..." "Film making is another emerging industry...." The article has had to be blanked as other sections are evaluation for content issues. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
I edited a little section on the twenty first century progression by paraphrasing from the source yins said I used to long of quotations. I am hoping that this is a good source since I found it on a .gov website [8] and I think moonriddengirl provided the link to the pdf [9]. I want to make sure that this is a good source and if I cited it correctly. I used the pdf from the Pittsburgh regional alliance website. I am wondering if this is a good source as well because it has a lot of information. Another thing I was confused about was in the references it says the article incorporates public domain material, which I thought we could use, and then has a link to the page. I was wondering if I can use this information and its charts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuna12 ( talk • contribs) 03:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
←Since this has now been listed for over two weeks, I have removed the contents that remained infringements that were not addressed. I have added proposed alterations from the temporary page, which has been deleted. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
A list of sources that I would use to further the economic development section. Are these sufficient?
Enterprise Zones
Research and Technology Development, Public-Private Partnerships, and Venture Capital
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