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Vandalism/Promotional Marketing

The edits to the BLP aforementioned were not violations and removed falsely in order to re-insert self-published and/or uncited promotional/marketing material and statements into the biography and to remove recent news updates cited to verified sources. Please subject this page to a proper dispute if you wish to debate the sources, like the "Middle East Eye", which have been cited elsewhere in the edits. - User: 108.35.228.18 User talk:108.35.228.18 1:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Another series of edits have been made by two editors to remove a breadth of cited materials and updates to redo them with promotional materials and items. These users names are listed in the edit history section of this article as persistently monitoring this article for any additions of items unsavory to the BLP that were also well-cited, suggesting PR defensive TTP. DeweyDecimalLansky ( talk) 20:06, 18 July 2020 (UTC) reply

What you wrote on my talk page made the exact same amount of sense, none. - Roxy the elfin dog . wooF 20:19, 18 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Roxy the Dog has been undoing genuine edits by reverting to very old versions of this page that were wholly unsourced, inaccurate, or items of self-promotion. Rather than edit individual lines, sections, or otherwise, this method has been used again and again to vandalize this article of any citations to well-sourced items revealing items that weren't in the BLP individual's public favor. Further, you are asked to please refrain from the use of any rude language in conversations. Asking for clarity can be done politely, but vandalizing a BLP page is not in accordance with WikiPedia policies. Thank you. DeweyDecimalLansky ( talk) 20:25, 18 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Agreed, this BLP bio is missing many items from his last three years, including the fan reactions to his appearances in Saudi Arabia and appearing very drunk on social media. There were actually magazine articles (mainstream) written about that. Although it IS negative information, it IS also well-sourced. There's no good reason to keep removing that information and cleaning his biography. 173.68.108.60 ( talk) 13:22, 11 June 2021 (UTC) reply

BLP violations

The latest series of edits adding lots of anti subject commentary has been removed by myself. - Roxy the effin dog . wooF 10:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC) reply

And I just reverted to your version after it was reinstated. Curdle ( talk) 12:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC) reply

Please do not revert this article wholesale to inauthentic, poorly cited, and self-promoting versions. You must edit with specificity in accordance with WikiPedia policies. It is naturally suspicious that the same editor keeps returning to do this because reverting to a very old version is an omnibus edit that ignores any updates/revisions that may have been genuine against opinions that they are subject to talk or discussion. Further, if you have items to debate, please do so right here on the talk page, but please also keep in mind the talk page guidelines. I am being accused of not being able to speak English, but asking for clarity politely is also another way of saying the same thing. It seems some are emotionally engaged with this article while the edits made were objective and fair in accordance with WikiPedia guidelines. DeweyDecimalLansky ( talk) 20:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC) reply

DeweyDecimalLansky, I have just posted a question about your strange warnings and accusations on your user talkpage. Please don't edit further before you reply to me there. Bishonen | tålk 20:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC). reply

Source 3 - Swedish Language Article from 2009 & Bio Data

Source 3 is cited to present contemporaneous biographical data of the individual's current marital statuses and residences. However, it is from 2009. It is now 11 years past this date. Are there any confirms that this information is still valid? Otherwise, I don't believe it is well-sourced to a reliable article in terms of date for accuracy's sake. Please kindly rebut if you are able. DeweyDecimalLansky ( talk) 20:04, 22 July 2020 (UTC) reply

The article has a ton of marketing and self-published material or links to articles that no longer exist, weren't archived correctly, etc. I fixed all of that and updated a prior revision that had many more updated articles that were somehow removed by various editors for disputed reasons. The BLP article as it read before my revisions wasn't even an encyclopedic article -- it was being wiped off any WELL-SOURCED negative materials newsworthy and relevant to the BLP. 173.68.108.60 ( talk) 13:20, 11 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Hello, I have tried to re-add your good faith edits, but they keep getting reverted by the same editor it seems. Hope an admin intervenes. 98.113.137.113 ( talk) 23:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Note; this comment is by the very same IP who was blocked for this conduct [1]. If you keep disrupting (talk) pages I will ask for a range block against you. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 05:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Articles by Same Author/News Venue Accepted when Speaking Positively of BLP, but Not Negatively?

Good faith, well-sourced items should not be removed. If the same editor is accepting positive remarks about BLP from the same exact source, then there's no reason to suddenly disqualify that source as invalid if the articles published discuss something negative about BLP. Why are there editors scrubbing clean this BLP of any items that are objectively negative towards BLP, but also well-cited? Please discuss and debate your issues before engaging in edit wars or tendentious editing. 98.113.137.113 ( talk) 23:20, 7 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Note; this comment is by the very same IP who was blocked for this conduct [2], no doubt the IP of a (now banned) previous user. If you keep disrupting (talk) pages I will ask for a range block against you. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 05:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vandalism/Promotional Marketing

The edits to the BLP aforementioned were not violations and removed falsely in order to re-insert self-published and/or uncited promotional/marketing material and statements into the biography and to remove recent news updates cited to verified sources. Please subject this page to a proper dispute if you wish to debate the sources, like the "Middle East Eye", which have been cited elsewhere in the edits. - User: 108.35.228.18 User talk:108.35.228.18 1:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Another series of edits have been made by two editors to remove a breadth of cited materials and updates to redo them with promotional materials and items. These users names are listed in the edit history section of this article as persistently monitoring this article for any additions of items unsavory to the BLP that were also well-cited, suggesting PR defensive TTP. DeweyDecimalLansky ( talk) 20:06, 18 July 2020 (UTC) reply

What you wrote on my talk page made the exact same amount of sense, none. - Roxy the elfin dog . wooF 20:19, 18 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Roxy the Dog has been undoing genuine edits by reverting to very old versions of this page that were wholly unsourced, inaccurate, or items of self-promotion. Rather than edit individual lines, sections, or otherwise, this method has been used again and again to vandalize this article of any citations to well-sourced items revealing items that weren't in the BLP individual's public favor. Further, you are asked to please refrain from the use of any rude language in conversations. Asking for clarity can be done politely, but vandalizing a BLP page is not in accordance with WikiPedia policies. Thank you. DeweyDecimalLansky ( talk) 20:25, 18 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Agreed, this BLP bio is missing many items from his last three years, including the fan reactions to his appearances in Saudi Arabia and appearing very drunk on social media. There were actually magazine articles (mainstream) written about that. Although it IS negative information, it IS also well-sourced. There's no good reason to keep removing that information and cleaning his biography. 173.68.108.60 ( talk) 13:22, 11 June 2021 (UTC) reply

BLP violations

The latest series of edits adding lots of anti subject commentary has been removed by myself. - Roxy the effin dog . wooF 10:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC) reply

And I just reverted to your version after it was reinstated. Curdle ( talk) 12:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC) reply

Please do not revert this article wholesale to inauthentic, poorly cited, and self-promoting versions. You must edit with specificity in accordance with WikiPedia policies. It is naturally suspicious that the same editor keeps returning to do this because reverting to a very old version is an omnibus edit that ignores any updates/revisions that may have been genuine against opinions that they are subject to talk or discussion. Further, if you have items to debate, please do so right here on the talk page, but please also keep in mind the talk page guidelines. I am being accused of not being able to speak English, but asking for clarity politely is also another way of saying the same thing. It seems some are emotionally engaged with this article while the edits made were objective and fair in accordance with WikiPedia guidelines. DeweyDecimalLansky ( talk) 20:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC) reply

DeweyDecimalLansky, I have just posted a question about your strange warnings and accusations on your user talkpage. Please don't edit further before you reply to me there. Bishonen | tålk 20:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC). reply

Source 3 - Swedish Language Article from 2009 & Bio Data

Source 3 is cited to present contemporaneous biographical data of the individual's current marital statuses and residences. However, it is from 2009. It is now 11 years past this date. Are there any confirms that this information is still valid? Otherwise, I don't believe it is well-sourced to a reliable article in terms of date for accuracy's sake. Please kindly rebut if you are able. DeweyDecimalLansky ( talk) 20:04, 22 July 2020 (UTC) reply

The article has a ton of marketing and self-published material or links to articles that no longer exist, weren't archived correctly, etc. I fixed all of that and updated a prior revision that had many more updated articles that were somehow removed by various editors for disputed reasons. The BLP article as it read before my revisions wasn't even an encyclopedic article -- it was being wiped off any WELL-SOURCED negative materials newsworthy and relevant to the BLP. 173.68.108.60 ( talk) 13:20, 11 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Hello, I have tried to re-add your good faith edits, but they keep getting reverted by the same editor it seems. Hope an admin intervenes. 98.113.137.113 ( talk) 23:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Note; this comment is by the very same IP who was blocked for this conduct [1]. If you keep disrupting (talk) pages I will ask for a range block against you. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 05:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Articles by Same Author/News Venue Accepted when Speaking Positively of BLP, but Not Negatively?

Good faith, well-sourced items should not be removed. If the same editor is accepting positive remarks about BLP from the same exact source, then there's no reason to suddenly disqualify that source as invalid if the articles published discuss something negative about BLP. Why are there editors scrubbing clean this BLP of any items that are objectively negative towards BLP, but also well-cited? Please discuss and debate your issues before engaging in edit wars or tendentious editing. 98.113.137.113 ( talk) 23:20, 7 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Note; this comment is by the very same IP who was blocked for this conduct [2], no doubt the IP of a (now banned) previous user. If you keep disrupting (talk) pages I will ask for a range block against you. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 05:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC) reply

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