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@ LechitaPL:regarding foreign names: A google search reveals a total of just over 2 million results (including double counting, including pages which are not truly in English, etc) for those 3 variants total, separated as follows:
As for Dresden, I find more than 120 million results for it. As such, these variants are not relevant under MOS:QUOTENAME and need not be mentioned. As was explained in the previous discussions, the Gdansk vote does not apply to this since the city does not have "a shared history with Poland" unless you use a very tenuous description of the term (which was rejected). Even if that vote did apply, the city is universally referred to (in English) as Dresden, unless maybe in listings of foreign language names. As such, There is no reason to include the Polish name, or any of the other translated names, except maybe in a "Names" section (and even then, arguing that we should include the Czech or Polish names is as bad an argument as saying that we should also include French "Dresde", Italian "Dresda", and so on - an English speaker is very unlikely to use those terms to look for this city, and the city was never Czech or Polish, so there's little historical ground for including them - the Sorbian name can go in the Etymology/Early history section, where it already is).
regarding the Frauenkirche:
The bombing of the city is already mentioned earlier in the lead, and no detail is given for either of the three other buildings. No reason we should go in too much details about this in the lead - simply mentioning that it was destroyed and rebuilt gives a better summary of the topic (details about the Frauenkirche and why it wasn't rebuilt go either lower in the article, or in the article about the church itself). Giving all those details in the intro would be
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The climate table for 1991-2020 period for some reason shows the same precipitation as Düsseldorf, which made me doubt about the whole table. I made a new one for an older period. Please verify the weather box if you can. PAper GOL ( talk) 18:53, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
A request has been made to rename "Soviet Republic of Saxony" to "Saxony in the German Revolution (1918–1919)". With the renaming, "Soviet Republic of Saxony" would be removed from this page's infobox.
Please join the discussion here. GHStPaulMN ( talk) 15:33, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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@ LechitaPL:regarding foreign names: A google search reveals a total of just over 2 million results (including double counting, including pages which are not truly in English, etc) for those 3 variants total, separated as follows:
As for Dresden, I find more than 120 million results for it. As such, these variants are not relevant under MOS:QUOTENAME and need not be mentioned. As was explained in the previous discussions, the Gdansk vote does not apply to this since the city does not have "a shared history with Poland" unless you use a very tenuous description of the term (which was rejected). Even if that vote did apply, the city is universally referred to (in English) as Dresden, unless maybe in listings of foreign language names. As such, There is no reason to include the Polish name, or any of the other translated names, except maybe in a "Names" section (and even then, arguing that we should include the Czech or Polish names is as bad an argument as saying that we should also include French "Dresde", Italian "Dresda", and so on - an English speaker is very unlikely to use those terms to look for this city, and the city was never Czech or Polish, so there's little historical ground for including them - the Sorbian name can go in the Etymology/Early history section, where it already is).
regarding the Frauenkirche:
The bombing of the city is already mentioned earlier in the lead, and no detail is given for either of the three other buildings. No reason we should go in too much details about this in the lead - simply mentioning that it was destroyed and rebuilt gives a better summary of the topic (details about the Frauenkirche and why it wasn't rebuilt go either lower in the article, or in the article about the church itself). Giving all those details in the intro would be
WP:UNDUE.
198.84.253.202 (
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The climate table for 1991-2020 period for some reason shows the same precipitation as Düsseldorf, which made me doubt about the whole table. I made a new one for an older period. Please verify the weather box if you can. PAper GOL ( talk) 18:53, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
A request has been made to rename "Soviet Republic of Saxony" to "Saxony in the German Revolution (1918–1919)". With the renaming, "Soviet Republic of Saxony" would be removed from this page's infobox.
Please join the discussion here. GHStPaulMN ( talk) 15:33, 28 February 2024 (UTC)