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I think there should be a new section about race relations under donald trump especially in the view of Charlottesville events and the continued controversy about race that follow his presidency (birtherism theory, changing laws around college admissions, receiving praise from KKK leaders etc)
I am not sure if i should submit the whole paragraph or the request for the paragraph first. If you want to add such a section, I am sure many will contribute both sides of the argument. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mireilleraad ( talk • contribs) 10:59, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Those first two are highly subjective, especially the college admissions one. 70.44.154.16 ( talk) 20:26, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
On August 16, 2017, Fox News (Gregg Jarrett) reported that based on his research, President Trump was the first President of the United States, to ever in the history of the U.S. to tweet, condemn or speak out on the clashes between opposing protestors at rallies such as the Charlottesville, VA episode. Let us eat lettuce ( talk) 03:03, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
My proposal below:
Trump has been accused of making bigoted remarks, tolerating racism and antisemitism, and even being a racist himself. [1] [2] [3] Trump has defended himself as the "the least racist person that you’ve ever seen" and "the least anti-Semitic person that you've ever seen in your entire life" [4] claiming an expansive view of American greatness, in which Americans of all races, ethnicity and religions thrive. [5]
In Trump's campaign-launching speech, he said: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best." "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." [6] Weeks later he added that "tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border." [7] Trump has defended his statement by saying that "Many fabulous people come in from Mexico and our country is better for it. But these people are here legally, and are severely hurt by those coming in illegally." "I am proud to say that I know many hard working Mexicans—many of them are working for and with me…and, just like our country, my organization is better for it." [8]
In a series of Twitter posts, Trump argued that Judge Gonzalo Curiel's Mexican heritage impaired his ability to impartially judge a lawsuit against Trump University, because of Trump's strong stance against illegal Mexican immigration. These comments were widely perceived to be racist, [9] most notably by Paul Ryan who called them the "textbook definition of a racist comment". [10] Trump defended them on free speech grounds. [11]
In June 2017, the Department of Homeland Security stopped funding the "Life After Hate" program which was intended to de-radicalize Neo-Nazis and stop white extremism. [12]
In August 2017, Trump condemned violence "on many sides" after a car plowed into counter-protesters during a gathering of hundreds of white nationalists in Charlottesville, Virginia the previous day, on August 12. [13] Trump did not expressly mention Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, or the alt-right movement in his remarks. [14] Whereas Republican and Democratic elected officials condemned the violence and hatred of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and alt-right activists, the New York Times noted that Trump "was the only national political figure to spread blame for the “hatred, bigotry and violence” that resulted in the death of one person, as well as two state troopers covering the rally when their helicopter crashed, [15] to 'many sides.'" [16] Trump corrected himself two days later, condemning "the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups." [17] Then the next day, he returned to his initial comments, blaming "both sides". [15] Trump came under criticism from world leaders [18] and politicians [16] [14], as well as a variety of religious groups [19] and anti-hate organizations [20] for his remarks, which were seen as muted and equivocal. Avisnacks ( talk) 10:51, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
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Change "he transferred to the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania," Change to add "where he graduated with a Bachelor of Science Degree in Economics..." Because of [[ Graduation Pamphlet of University of Pennsylvania Two Hundred and Twelfth Commencement for the Conferring of Degrees
PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER
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Not done - It's in the next paragraph. Objective3000 ( talk) 21:56, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
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"Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.", should say "Before becoming President of the United States, he was a businessman and television personality." 76.115.172.173 ( talk) 03:37, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
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209.240.50.20 ( talk) 16:15, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
"He fumed to aides about how unfairly he was being treated, and expressed sympathy with nonviolent protesters who he said were defending their “heritage,” according to a West Wing official." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-charlottesville-white-nationalists.html?mcubz=0 Where do we draw the line when it comes to Nazism and white nationalism? He's saying what he's always privately held, he's a racist. AHC300 ( talk) 12:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
Can someone please remove the "nicknames" parameter in the infobox? The article is probably gonna get deleted in the first place, but even if it isn't, I'm sure we would need a consensus to include it first. NoMoreHeroes ( talk) 20:51, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
On behalf of the arbitration committee, I would like to inform you that a request for clarification affecting this article been closed and archived here. If you have any questions, feel free to contact us.
Sincerely, Kostas20142 ( talk) 12:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
The marked lack of citations and the continual referal to consensus being a standard for factual reliability speaks volumes about the political bent of the admins of Wikipedia. This is exactly why no respectable school will accept Wikipedia as a valid source of factual data. While I am impressed with the overall neutrality of this article it is far from being what it should be and the admins should be embarrassed by its clear contempt for the subject, President Trump. ANY reference to false statements should either be cited extensively or removed. ANY mention of political hubris by Trump should either be cited, eliminated, or countered by the opinion of the opposition. When the majority of the admins and editors are politically opposed to the subject of a page consensus is less than worthless and the proper action would be for anyone taking either side to recuse themselves from editing or moderating that page. Another issue of note is that all too many pages on Wikipedia are being created and edited by those who have a fiduciary interest in the subject matter. These are issues that seriously need attention if Wikipedia is going to maintain and increase its relevance. Artis Weaver ( talk) 20:09, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm a long-standing critic of what I feel is an excessive number of pages regarding Trump-Russia scandals. A few, especially Donald Trump's disclosure of classified information to Russia, are not notable enough (IMO) for a stand-alone page. However, there's currently no good merge target for them.
I propose creating a new page called either Russiagate or Donald Trump's Russia scandals . Russiagate, as a neologism, has some usage [1] [2] but I wouldn't say it's a commonly-used term at this time; creating a Wikipedia page under that title could possibly cause it to be promoted in the media as a term. "Donald Trump's Russia scandals" is wordier but un-ambiguous in meaning and unlikely to have any secondary impact.
I'm also not sure whether re-naming Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections to an agreed-upon name or creating an entirely new page would be best, if there's agreement for a top-level page. Thoughts? Power~enwiki ( talk) 18:26, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
The article has been quite stable for a while, controversial topics were properly addressed by consensus, and the talk page is free of major disputes. Would this be the right time to submit the article for a B-class review? — JFG talk 04:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
The following was added to the Sexual Misconduct Allegations today:
Trump had previously described his practice of walking in unannounced while teenage beauty pageant contestants were naked or partially clothed, during a Howard Stern interview in 2005, saying "you know, they're standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that." [1]
User:Awilley modified it to:
Other recordings surfaced including a 2005 radio interview with Howard Stern in which Trump described barging into dressing rooms at beauty pageants while contestants were nude or partially clothed. [2]
User:Scjessey restored the original wording. I have removed the entire thing, subject to discussion here. Options are 1) don't mention this at all; 2) use the original addition, including a quote from him and sourced to a Rolling Stone article about Trump's "creepiness"; or 3) use Awilley's modification, without the quote and sourced to the Washington Post. Thoughts? -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:32, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
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Of the 11 women who said they don't remember Trump coming into the changing room, some said it was possible that it happened while they weren't in the room or that they didn't notice. But most were dubious or dismissed the possibility out of hand. "There were so many chaperones I can't even fathom" him doing so, said Jessica Granata, the former Miss Massachusetts Teen USA. "It was very secure." Allison Bowman, former Miss Wisconsin Teen USA, cast doubt on whether it happened. "These were teenage girls," Bowman said. "If anything inappropriate had gone on, the gossip would have flown." "There was way too much security," said Crystal Hughes, the former Miss Maine Teen USA. "If that was something he did, then everybody would have noticed." Asked why some of her fellow contestants said he did enter the changing room, Hughes responded, "They’re probably lying because they are voting for Hillary Clinton."—Source: Taggart, Kendall; Garrison, Jessica; Testa, Jessica (2016-10-13). "Teen Beauty Queens Say Trump Walked In On Them Changing". BuzzFeed News. Retrieved 2017-08-29.
Trump also entered the dressing room of the Miss Teen USA pageant in 1997 while the girls were dressing. The youngest contestants were 15 years old. He told the girls, "Don't worry, ladies, I've seen it all before." Of the 15 former contestants who were interviewed, none alleged Trump said anything sexually explicit or made physical contact in the dressing room. ... The dressing room had 51 contestants, each with their own stations. Eleven girls said that they did not see Trump enter the dressing room, though some said it was possible that he entered while they were somewhere else, or that they didn't notice. Allison Bowman, Miss Wisconsin Teen USA, expressed skepticism: "these were teenage girls. If anything inappropriate had gone on, the gossip would have flown." Billado recalled talking to Ivanka, Trump's daughter, who responded "Yeah, he does that." Trump's campaign stated the allegations of him entering the dressing room "have no merit and have already been disproven by many other individuals who were present."—Source: Wikipedia, Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations#Allegations of pageant dressing room visit, purporting to cite the above BuzzFeed article through this derivative New York Post piece.
"didn't notice"Trump's presence (whereas BuzzFeed explicitly notes
"most were dubious or dismissed the possibility out of hand"), and attributes actual doubt to Bowman alone (in fact, her's was the majority opinion). (In turn, Bowman was likely chosen because her comment about
"gossip"was considered weaker than Granata and Hughes's insistence that the massive security/chaperone presence would never have given Trump free reign.) Moreover, all such allegations are difficult to square with first-hand accounts of how the pageants are actually run:
Amy Colley Tyson recently wrote her personal account of meeting Donald Trump on her Facebook page. In it, she provides a timeline of events on what happened to hear during her time as Miss Tennessee USA during the 2005 Miss USA pageant.
:::*6:00pm—delegates released to dressing rooms (2 rooms total) to begin prep for live telecast. We were assigned one of two rooms based on our state title in alphabetical order. My assigned area was directly across from entrance on right hand side between Texas and South Dakota. The organization gave us 2 1/2 hours to complete prep.
"almost certainly"false, because for Trump to have engaged in such behavior would have required a huge list of enablers, yet no chaperones or security personnel or anyone else with first-hand knowledge has since come forward to corroborate the allegations. To the contrary, the story began and ended with BuzzFeed and a few derivative tabloids and has since completely died. Not only does it not belong here, it should be removed from Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations as an WP:EXCEPTIONAL WP:BLP vio. TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 10:45, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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You are invited to participate in Template talk:Donald Trump series#RfC: Selection and display of articles about Russia. — JFG talk 16:54, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
"Donald Trump is the 45th and current President of the United States, in office since January 20, 2017." To me, the "in office since..." part sounds ungrammatical at worst, and unnatural at best. Perhaps editors may want to consider working on the first sentence. JDiala ( talk) 10:22, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump and handshakes (2nd nomination). epicgenius ( talk) 03:23, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Some editors have expressed concerns on Talk:Donald Trump and handshakes that this is not a notable subject on its own, so I am posting this here for discussion. epicgenius ( talk) 23:54, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
It should be merged, but not here - not to
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AfD back in July. The proposals for a merger were to merge it to either
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Presidency of Donald Trump#Leadership style and philosophy, or both. I'm inclined to AfD it again, since the last one was "no consensus" - while mentioning these as possible merge targets if that is the community's will. Somebody beat me to the AfD. --
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It mentions Nixon lost his home state of New York. This is misleading because only Nixon's residence was technically New York just at the time he ran. His home state in actuality was California. It needs to be noted that Nixon carried his home, although he lost his technical state of residence which was New York in 1968. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.25.223.132 ( talk) 00:48, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Another overeager rush to declare consensus. This is not helpful. To get a broad sampling, these moots need to be up for more than a day or two. I'd think that's obvious. I'm sure WP has statistics as to the relative frequency of logins at various editors cross-tabbed with total numbers of edits and other metrics. I'm not sure this is so trivial. Something so exceptionally rare -- and I agree Nixon was not at the time considered a New Yorker by those who lived there -- may have significance. In fact, RS tell us most NY'ers took him to be a kind of crass misfit and certainly Manhattan residents paid him little attention and were long reported to have viewed him as a vulgar "bridge-and-tunnel" type -- an outsider. So I think this should be self-reverted until more editors can share their views. SPECIFICO talk 17:59, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Looks like consensus. I deleted it. -- MelanieN ( talk) 18:43, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
I don't know if this question has already been dealt with, but I can't find any particular discussion about it... why is marijuana listed in the Trump sidebar? It sits adjacent to "Social Policy", but has there really been much talk or policy about it, either on the campaign or since the inauguration? Even the Social Policy page makes only a few references to marijuana, and it isn't something Trump talks about much on Twitter or at his rallies. Drugs have featured as a source of debate under Trump, but mainly about Mexican contraband and opioids. Surely a more representative Social Policy sub-section on the sidebar (if any is needed at all) would be LGBTQ rights, or perhaps freedom of speech (viz. Confederacy monuments). Any thoughts? Cpaaoi ( talk) 20:16, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
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TL;DR - re-target The Donald to Donald Trump.
The Donald used to redirect to Donald Trump. However, a discussion with minimal participation took place a while back which resulted in The Donald being redirected to /r/The_Donald. The nickname "The Donald" has referred to Trump throughout the years much more than it has the subreddit and is the obvious primary topic. However, I think everyone, including myself, would be against putting a hatnote "for the subreddit, see..." at the top of the article on the President of the United States. I'm requesting that The Donald be re-targeted to Donald Trump and I'm doing it here because it will get more input than if I put it at Talk:The Donald.
Pinging editors of the original discussion @ JFG, Molandfreak, and Yoshiman6464:
Thanks,
DrStrauss talk 20:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Retarget Absolutely. I can see no reason for us to redirect to an article about a Reddit forum, when there is a perfectly good Wikipedia article we can use as a target. Most people are probably looking for his Wikipedia page in any case. As for "making it difficult to navigate to the subreddit article" - you say that like it's a problem? 0;-D -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:24, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
The subreddit has been accused by news outlets of hosting conspiracy theories, and content that is racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, or white supremacist.[8] The site has been repeatedly accused of providing a "safe-harbor" where racists, white-nationalists, and white supremacists press their views.[9] According to the Economist, "few corners of the internet are fouler". Its members spew "conspiracy theories, Islamophobia and anti-Semitism".- I think it is almost a BLP violation for us to point people there, instead of to this biographical page. -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:28, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Comment is invited as to some content about Pres. Trump. [9] SPECIFICO talk 02:43, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
As a follow-up on the RfC that was recently closed, and in light of yesterday's New York Times news article (not opinion) discussing Trump's "lies," I would like to start an ongoing, no-archive thread in which we collect all of the reliable sources that discuss whether Trump has lied. The fatal flaw with the RfC, in my view, was that the proposal wasn't readily verifiable: it included an overwhelming list of sources, many of which were opinion sources (not reliable for facts) or that only discussed whether Trump's statements were false. (Not all false statements are lies.) It also made no effort to include reliable sources that say Trump did not or does not lie. I don't know how many such sources exist; that is the purpose of this discussion.
I am not proposing any changes to the article at this time. I'm merely requesting research help. If you think a source should not be on the list, please tag it, discuss it, and/or move it into a new subsection or something. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) -- Dr. Fleischman ( talk) 19:53, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
This is obviously for political reasons. There are many other politicians (Hillary Clinton, Romney, etc.) who also have numerous reliable sources stating they lie, but they are not put under the same scrutiny on Wikipedia.-- 97.124.67.164 ( talk) 23:22, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
I say this be included in the article. 31.215.113.174 ( talk) 09:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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Re [10]. I know there was (were) an exhaustive (several) discussion on the "lies" and "falsehoods" thing, consensus was to include it, so why is this being removed now? Volunteer Marek ( talk) 14:02, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
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Please change the picture at the top of the page to be Trump's presidential portrait. Other presidents have their official picture and not a candid photo. A copy of the presidential portrait can be found at http://conservativefiringline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Donald_Trump_President-elect_portrait.jpg Ian S. Mills 05:39, 11 September 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mills.ian ( talk • contribs) 05:39, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
FYI: the Washington Post has an article on the problems other organizations have had with finding an official portrait: [13]. Power~enwiki ( talk) 03:17, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Can we replace the current image with this one?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Edge4life42 ( talk • contribs) 21:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Edge4life42 -- A personally Edited image seems bit of iffy as a practice, and is subject to ownership issues. If the official portrait is not to be used, then I suggest that the whitehouse.gov top image is the next most authoritative one, which is | here. Out of the appallingly many hundreds of [ | Trump photos on file] I think there is a copy of the uncropped root image | here. Use the whitehouse cropped image or use this root image or some other image from the .gov without local edits. Cheers Markbassett ( talk) 00:35, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
There's an RFC about whether Wikipedia should mention anywhere that the potential firing of FBI Director Comey was publicly discussed by both Democratic and Republican politicians before Trump fired him. Anythingyouwant ( talk) 01:56, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
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I think it would be helpful to have a section comprising words that Trump has made up - Examples would include the 'Covfefe' affair on Twitter; perhaps with a link to the "Donald Trump on social media" wiki page - Reference to Nambia' at a recent UN conference
- Both of these instances can be supported by a number of reliable sources Jono1011 ( talk) 15:01, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
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Should be added to the protests section under the Protests section of 2016 Presidential Campaign part of the article.
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"Trump had long expressed interest in politics before his failed 2000" Trump did not fail, he ended his campaign and did not compete so I FAIL to understand how he "failed" - could someone back this up? Also I should add his other campaigns should be mentioned within his top description. Fair? ThePlane11 ( talk) 16:56, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
"Failed" doesn't tell the whole story, since he didn't continue into election night but suspended his campaign midway through the primaries. "Short-lived" would be a better description. 70.44.154.16 ( talk) 20:18, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Emir - no? He didn't lose the election neither. He ended his campaign in February meanwhile the election finished in November. @ everyone else, yes I agree short-lived is a far better word. I see the word "failed" as a biased personal attack on Trump. ThePlane11 ( talk) 22:07, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
I see that the whole phrase - "prior to his failed 2000 campaign and his successful 2016 campaign" - has been deleted, leaving just "had long expressed interest in politics". I endorse that removal and I think it solves the whole problem under discussion here. -- MelanieN ( talk) 17:05, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Mandruss - I believe in the strongest possible terms if you asked people about that context, the majority would assume (not know) that Trump lost the election when he didn't lose nor win. It should be worthwhile mentioning that he self-ended his campaign, if his campaign failed I automatically assumed he failed (lost), there must be evidence of people in previous election where they were winning the election and self ended their campaign, not really "failed" - that's a totally different meaning. As I've said before Wikipedia has an enormous amount of power and many people from different countries etc would think he competed in the end of the election and lost whereas he didn't. It should be very clear in my opinion. The reason why I said I think it is a biased attack is because I know the large majority do not share the same views as Trump and some hate him. Of course the opposition can be biased in a context where it's validated (created and day-to-day run by the left wing, mostly left wing articles) of course it makes sense. But however I'm a little off, I don't think "failed" is the MOST appropriate and clear word. If someone with my intelligence has a hard time distinguishing the meaning, well that indeed says something and proves my point. ThePlane11 ( talk) 01:34, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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The piecdmentioning that Donald's uncle "helped design X-ray machines that prolonged the lives of cancer patients." could be edited to sound less as a compliment. --
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The style of reference for John G. Trump may be puffery, or attempt to improve image by association. The cited reference does not talk at all about John Trump's contribution to prolonging lives of cancer patients (though this is referenced in the John G. Trump wikipedia page).
Suggest removing the phrase "which helped prolong lives of cancer patients", and stick with his professional facts:
He was a professor at MIT from 1936 to 1973, involved in radar research and the design of hospital X-Ray machines. Bigtastyrich ( talk) 20:25, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
The link referenced is to a 3rd party online news site. Credibility is strengthened if the link is changed to the official HB-438 link to the House of representatives page [1]
Bigtastyrich ( talk) 20:15, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Not done We usually use secondary sources rather than primary sources for this kind of reference. However, that section links to our article Efforts to impeach Donald Trump where there is more information including a link to the bill itself. -- MelanieN ( talk) 18:05, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Should a new section be added regarding accusations of Trump's bigotry (racism, antisemitism, sexism, Islamophobia)? Avisnacks ( talk) 09:15, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
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*Support. Our hands are tied. We must reflect coverage given by reliable sources. That the term is subjective, and that in this case it is used exclusively and selectively by his political opponents, is completely irrelevant policy is policy we must call Trump a bigot and in Wikipedia's voice. Wikipedia has been accused in the past of having a left-wing the bias and a hatred for Trump in particular,leading to biased and partisan coverage. We cannot let our reputation prevent us from calling a meanie a meanie.
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We need to include my personal terrible seedy details because I interpret this very blanket RfC as supporting my very particular thing.TimothyJosephWood 10:46, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
SMcCandlish is right that this could be a whole article subject, and the way to start, per SUMMARY, is to create a section which gets so large that it creates an undue weight situation and must be spun off. Let's get started. -- BullRangifer ( talk) 04:41, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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I want to edit this because there are facts that are wrong. 71.55.177.130 ( talk) 00:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Shouldn't his occupation as an author be listed along with businessman and television personality? Even when taking into account that most of them were (at least) co-written by other people and fall in the business category, he has published 19 books in total, most of which made best-seller lists and made considerable profit. It basically revolves around the question whether it can be included in his businessman/politician epithet or already deserves recognition of its own.-- DasallmächtigeJ ( talk) 19:09, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
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Change his birthday from 14th June 1946 to 26/09/17 because of the expression, 'Were You Born Yesterday?' LegendSkys ( talk) 18:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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Change New York City to New York City, New York, U.S. on Trump's infobox. 70.44.154.16 ( talk) 23:16, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi there. I'm new to Wikipedia and doing an assignment for class where we find errors in the encyclopedia. The first error I've identified, is citation 625 in this article, which needs an author name and a date published. Please correct.-- Jaobar ( talk) 17:06, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Citation 600 does not work and I don't think the quote it references is correct. I may be mistaken though 22mikpau ( talk) 15:16, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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I think there should be a new section about race relations under donald trump especially in the view of Charlottesville events and the continued controversy about race that follow his presidency (birtherism theory, changing laws around college admissions, receiving praise from KKK leaders etc)
I am not sure if i should submit the whole paragraph or the request for the paragraph first. If you want to add such a section, I am sure many will contribute both sides of the argument. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mireilleraad ( talk • contribs) 10:59, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Those first two are highly subjective, especially the college admissions one. 70.44.154.16 ( talk) 20:26, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
On August 16, 2017, Fox News (Gregg Jarrett) reported that based on his research, President Trump was the first President of the United States, to ever in the history of the U.S. to tweet, condemn or speak out on the clashes between opposing protestors at rallies such as the Charlottesville, VA episode. Let us eat lettuce ( talk) 03:03, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
My proposal below:
Trump has been accused of making bigoted remarks, tolerating racism and antisemitism, and even being a racist himself. [1] [2] [3] Trump has defended himself as the "the least racist person that you’ve ever seen" and "the least anti-Semitic person that you've ever seen in your entire life" [4] claiming an expansive view of American greatness, in which Americans of all races, ethnicity and religions thrive. [5]
In Trump's campaign-launching speech, he said: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best." "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." [6] Weeks later he added that "tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border." [7] Trump has defended his statement by saying that "Many fabulous people come in from Mexico and our country is better for it. But these people are here legally, and are severely hurt by those coming in illegally." "I am proud to say that I know many hard working Mexicans—many of them are working for and with me…and, just like our country, my organization is better for it." [8]
In a series of Twitter posts, Trump argued that Judge Gonzalo Curiel's Mexican heritage impaired his ability to impartially judge a lawsuit against Trump University, because of Trump's strong stance against illegal Mexican immigration. These comments were widely perceived to be racist, [9] most notably by Paul Ryan who called them the "textbook definition of a racist comment". [10] Trump defended them on free speech grounds. [11]
In June 2017, the Department of Homeland Security stopped funding the "Life After Hate" program which was intended to de-radicalize Neo-Nazis and stop white extremism. [12]
In August 2017, Trump condemned violence "on many sides" after a car plowed into counter-protesters during a gathering of hundreds of white nationalists in Charlottesville, Virginia the previous day, on August 12. [13] Trump did not expressly mention Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, or the alt-right movement in his remarks. [14] Whereas Republican and Democratic elected officials condemned the violence and hatred of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and alt-right activists, the New York Times noted that Trump "was the only national political figure to spread blame for the “hatred, bigotry and violence” that resulted in the death of one person, as well as two state troopers covering the rally when their helicopter crashed, [15] to 'many sides.'" [16] Trump corrected himself two days later, condemning "the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups." [17] Then the next day, he returned to his initial comments, blaming "both sides". [15] Trump came under criticism from world leaders [18] and politicians [16] [14], as well as a variety of religious groups [19] and anti-hate organizations [20] for his remarks, which were seen as muted and equivocal. Avisnacks ( talk) 10:51, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
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Trump suffering from early stage dementia, says consensus of legislators, psychiatrists, psychologists, intelligence officials, media, citizens:
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There are many more articles on this notable topic, which deserves mention in the article. 68.132.68.52 ( talk) 05:01, 25 August 2017 (UTC) IP blocked as a sock of Kingshowman. Favonian ( talk) 05:14, 25 August 2017 (UTC) |
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Change "he transferred to the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania," Change to add "where he graduated with a Bachelor of Science Degree in Economics..." Because of [[ Graduation Pamphlet of University of Pennsylvania Two Hundred and Twelfth Commencement for the Conferring of Degrees
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Not done - It's in the next paragraph. Objective3000 ( talk) 21:56, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
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"Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.", should say "Before becoming President of the United States, he was a businessman and television personality." 76.115.172.173 ( talk) 03:37, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
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"He fumed to aides about how unfairly he was being treated, and expressed sympathy with nonviolent protesters who he said were defending their “heritage,” according to a West Wing official." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-charlottesville-white-nationalists.html?mcubz=0 Where do we draw the line when it comes to Nazism and white nationalism? He's saying what he's always privately held, he's a racist. AHC300 ( talk) 12:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
Can someone please remove the "nicknames" parameter in the infobox? The article is probably gonna get deleted in the first place, but even if it isn't, I'm sure we would need a consensus to include it first. NoMoreHeroes ( talk) 20:51, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
On behalf of the arbitration committee, I would like to inform you that a request for clarification affecting this article been closed and archived here. If you have any questions, feel free to contact us.
Sincerely, Kostas20142 ( talk) 12:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
The marked lack of citations and the continual referal to consensus being a standard for factual reliability speaks volumes about the political bent of the admins of Wikipedia. This is exactly why no respectable school will accept Wikipedia as a valid source of factual data. While I am impressed with the overall neutrality of this article it is far from being what it should be and the admins should be embarrassed by its clear contempt for the subject, President Trump. ANY reference to false statements should either be cited extensively or removed. ANY mention of political hubris by Trump should either be cited, eliminated, or countered by the opinion of the opposition. When the majority of the admins and editors are politically opposed to the subject of a page consensus is less than worthless and the proper action would be for anyone taking either side to recuse themselves from editing or moderating that page. Another issue of note is that all too many pages on Wikipedia are being created and edited by those who have a fiduciary interest in the subject matter. These are issues that seriously need attention if Wikipedia is going to maintain and increase its relevance. Artis Weaver ( talk) 20:09, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm a long-standing critic of what I feel is an excessive number of pages regarding Trump-Russia scandals. A few, especially Donald Trump's disclosure of classified information to Russia, are not notable enough (IMO) for a stand-alone page. However, there's currently no good merge target for them.
I propose creating a new page called either Russiagate or Donald Trump's Russia scandals . Russiagate, as a neologism, has some usage [1] [2] but I wouldn't say it's a commonly-used term at this time; creating a Wikipedia page under that title could possibly cause it to be promoted in the media as a term. "Donald Trump's Russia scandals" is wordier but un-ambiguous in meaning and unlikely to have any secondary impact.
I'm also not sure whether re-naming Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections to an agreed-upon name or creating an entirely new page would be best, if there's agreement for a top-level page. Thoughts? Power~enwiki ( talk) 18:26, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
The article has been quite stable for a while, controversial topics were properly addressed by consensus, and the talk page is free of major disputes. Would this be the right time to submit the article for a B-class review? — JFG talk 04:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
The following was added to the Sexual Misconduct Allegations today:
Trump had previously described his practice of walking in unannounced while teenage beauty pageant contestants were naked or partially clothed, during a Howard Stern interview in 2005, saying "you know, they're standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that." [1]
User:Awilley modified it to:
Other recordings surfaced including a 2005 radio interview with Howard Stern in which Trump described barging into dressing rooms at beauty pageants while contestants were nude or partially clothed. [2]
User:Scjessey restored the original wording. I have removed the entire thing, subject to discussion here. Options are 1) don't mention this at all; 2) use the original addition, including a quote from him and sourced to a Rolling Stone article about Trump's "creepiness"; or 3) use Awilley's modification, without the quote and sourced to the Washington Post. Thoughts? -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:32, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
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Of the 11 women who said they don't remember Trump coming into the changing room, some said it was possible that it happened while they weren't in the room or that they didn't notice. But most were dubious or dismissed the possibility out of hand. "There were so many chaperones I can't even fathom" him doing so, said Jessica Granata, the former Miss Massachusetts Teen USA. "It was very secure." Allison Bowman, former Miss Wisconsin Teen USA, cast doubt on whether it happened. "These were teenage girls," Bowman said. "If anything inappropriate had gone on, the gossip would have flown." "There was way too much security," said Crystal Hughes, the former Miss Maine Teen USA. "If that was something he did, then everybody would have noticed." Asked why some of her fellow contestants said he did enter the changing room, Hughes responded, "They’re probably lying because they are voting for Hillary Clinton."—Source: Taggart, Kendall; Garrison, Jessica; Testa, Jessica (2016-10-13). "Teen Beauty Queens Say Trump Walked In On Them Changing". BuzzFeed News. Retrieved 2017-08-29.
Trump also entered the dressing room of the Miss Teen USA pageant in 1997 while the girls were dressing. The youngest contestants were 15 years old. He told the girls, "Don't worry, ladies, I've seen it all before." Of the 15 former contestants who were interviewed, none alleged Trump said anything sexually explicit or made physical contact in the dressing room. ... The dressing room had 51 contestants, each with their own stations. Eleven girls said that they did not see Trump enter the dressing room, though some said it was possible that he entered while they were somewhere else, or that they didn't notice. Allison Bowman, Miss Wisconsin Teen USA, expressed skepticism: "these were teenage girls. If anything inappropriate had gone on, the gossip would have flown." Billado recalled talking to Ivanka, Trump's daughter, who responded "Yeah, he does that." Trump's campaign stated the allegations of him entering the dressing room "have no merit and have already been disproven by many other individuals who were present."—Source: Wikipedia, Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations#Allegations of pageant dressing room visit, purporting to cite the above BuzzFeed article through this derivative New York Post piece.
"didn't notice"Trump's presence (whereas BuzzFeed explicitly notes
"most were dubious or dismissed the possibility out of hand"), and attributes actual doubt to Bowman alone (in fact, her's was the majority opinion). (In turn, Bowman was likely chosen because her comment about
"gossip"was considered weaker than Granata and Hughes's insistence that the massive security/chaperone presence would never have given Trump free reign.) Moreover, all such allegations are difficult to square with first-hand accounts of how the pageants are actually run:
Amy Colley Tyson recently wrote her personal account of meeting Donald Trump on her Facebook page. In it, she provides a timeline of events on what happened to hear during her time as Miss Tennessee USA during the 2005 Miss USA pageant.
:::*6:00pm—delegates released to dressing rooms (2 rooms total) to begin prep for live telecast. We were assigned one of two rooms based on our state title in alphabetical order. My assigned area was directly across from entrance on right hand side between Texas and South Dakota. The organization gave us 2 1/2 hours to complete prep.
"almost certainly"false, because for Trump to have engaged in such behavior would have required a huge list of enablers, yet no chaperones or security personnel or anyone else with first-hand knowledge has since come forward to corroborate the allegations. To the contrary, the story began and ended with BuzzFeed and a few derivative tabloids and has since completely died. Not only does it not belong here, it should be removed from Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations as an WP:EXCEPTIONAL WP:BLP vio. TheTimesAreAChanging ( talk) 10:45, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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You are invited to participate in Template talk:Donald Trump series#RfC: Selection and display of articles about Russia. — JFG talk 16:54, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
"Donald Trump is the 45th and current President of the United States, in office since January 20, 2017." To me, the "in office since..." part sounds ungrammatical at worst, and unnatural at best. Perhaps editors may want to consider working on the first sentence. JDiala ( talk) 10:22, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump and handshakes (2nd nomination). epicgenius ( talk) 03:23, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Some editors have expressed concerns on Talk:Donald Trump and handshakes that this is not a notable subject on its own, so I am posting this here for discussion. epicgenius ( talk) 23:54, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
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Presidency of Donald Trump#Leadership style and philosophy, or both. I'm inclined to AfD it again, since the last one was "no consensus" - while mentioning these as possible merge targets if that is the community's will. Somebody beat me to the AfD. --
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It mentions Nixon lost his home state of New York. This is misleading because only Nixon's residence was technically New York just at the time he ran. His home state in actuality was California. It needs to be noted that Nixon carried his home, although he lost his technical state of residence which was New York in 1968. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.25.223.132 ( talk) 00:48, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Another overeager rush to declare consensus. This is not helpful. To get a broad sampling, these moots need to be up for more than a day or two. I'd think that's obvious. I'm sure WP has statistics as to the relative frequency of logins at various editors cross-tabbed with total numbers of edits and other metrics. I'm not sure this is so trivial. Something so exceptionally rare -- and I agree Nixon was not at the time considered a New Yorker by those who lived there -- may have significance. In fact, RS tell us most NY'ers took him to be a kind of crass misfit and certainly Manhattan residents paid him little attention and were long reported to have viewed him as a vulgar "bridge-and-tunnel" type -- an outsider. So I think this should be self-reverted until more editors can share their views. SPECIFICO talk 17:59, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Looks like consensus. I deleted it. -- MelanieN ( talk) 18:43, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
I don't know if this question has already been dealt with, but I can't find any particular discussion about it... why is marijuana listed in the Trump sidebar? It sits adjacent to "Social Policy", but has there really been much talk or policy about it, either on the campaign or since the inauguration? Even the Social Policy page makes only a few references to marijuana, and it isn't something Trump talks about much on Twitter or at his rallies. Drugs have featured as a source of debate under Trump, but mainly about Mexican contraband and opioids. Surely a more representative Social Policy sub-section on the sidebar (if any is needed at all) would be LGBTQ rights, or perhaps freedom of speech (viz. Confederacy monuments). Any thoughts? Cpaaoi ( talk) 20:16, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
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TL;DR - re-target The Donald to Donald Trump.
The Donald used to redirect to Donald Trump. However, a discussion with minimal participation took place a while back which resulted in The Donald being redirected to /r/The_Donald. The nickname "The Donald" has referred to Trump throughout the years much more than it has the subreddit and is the obvious primary topic. However, I think everyone, including myself, would be against putting a hatnote "for the subreddit, see..." at the top of the article on the President of the United States. I'm requesting that The Donald be re-targeted to Donald Trump and I'm doing it here because it will get more input than if I put it at Talk:The Donald.
Pinging editors of the original discussion @ JFG, Molandfreak, and Yoshiman6464:
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Retarget Absolutely. I can see no reason for us to redirect to an article about a Reddit forum, when there is a perfectly good Wikipedia article we can use as a target. Most people are probably looking for his Wikipedia page in any case. As for "making it difficult to navigate to the subreddit article" - you say that like it's a problem? 0;-D -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:24, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
The subreddit has been accused by news outlets of hosting conspiracy theories, and content that is racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, or white supremacist.[8] The site has been repeatedly accused of providing a "safe-harbor" where racists, white-nationalists, and white supremacists press their views.[9] According to the Economist, "few corners of the internet are fouler". Its members spew "conspiracy theories, Islamophobia and anti-Semitism".- I think it is almost a BLP violation for us to point people there, instead of to this biographical page. -- MelanieN ( talk) 21:28, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Comment is invited as to some content about Pres. Trump. [9] SPECIFICO talk 02:43, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
As a follow-up on the RfC that was recently closed, and in light of yesterday's New York Times news article (not opinion) discussing Trump's "lies," I would like to start an ongoing, no-archive thread in which we collect all of the reliable sources that discuss whether Trump has lied. The fatal flaw with the RfC, in my view, was that the proposal wasn't readily verifiable: it included an overwhelming list of sources, many of which were opinion sources (not reliable for facts) or that only discussed whether Trump's statements were false. (Not all false statements are lies.) It also made no effort to include reliable sources that say Trump did not or does not lie. I don't know how many such sources exist; that is the purpose of this discussion.
I am not proposing any changes to the article at this time. I'm merely requesting research help. If you think a source should not be on the list, please tag it, discuss it, and/or move it into a new subsection or something. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) -- Dr. Fleischman ( talk) 19:53, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
This is obviously for political reasons. There are many other politicians (Hillary Clinton, Romney, etc.) who also have numerous reliable sources stating they lie, but they are not put under the same scrutiny on Wikipedia.-- 97.124.67.164 ( talk) 23:22, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
I say this be included in the article. 31.215.113.174 ( talk) 09:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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Re [10]. I know there was (were) an exhaustive (several) discussion on the "lies" and "falsehoods" thing, consensus was to include it, so why is this being removed now? Volunteer Marek ( talk) 14:02, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
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Please change the picture at the top of the page to be Trump's presidential portrait. Other presidents have their official picture and not a candid photo. A copy of the presidential portrait can be found at http://conservativefiringline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Donald_Trump_President-elect_portrait.jpg Ian S. Mills 05:39, 11 September 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mills.ian ( talk • contribs) 05:39, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
FYI: the Washington Post has an article on the problems other organizations have had with finding an official portrait: [13]. Power~enwiki ( talk) 03:17, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Can we replace the current image with this one?
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Edge4life42 -- A personally Edited image seems bit of iffy as a practice, and is subject to ownership issues. If the official portrait is not to be used, then I suggest that the whitehouse.gov top image is the next most authoritative one, which is | here. Out of the appallingly many hundreds of [ | Trump photos on file] I think there is a copy of the uncropped root image | here. Use the whitehouse cropped image or use this root image or some other image from the .gov without local edits. Cheers Markbassett ( talk) 00:35, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
There's an RFC about whether Wikipedia should mention anywhere that the potential firing of FBI Director Comey was publicly discussed by both Democratic and Republican politicians before Trump fired him. Anythingyouwant ( talk) 01:56, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
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I think it would be helpful to have a section comprising words that Trump has made up - Examples would include the 'Covfefe' affair on Twitter; perhaps with a link to the "Donald Trump on social media" wiki page - Reference to Nambia' at a recent UN conference
- Both of these instances can be supported by a number of reliable sources Jono1011 ( talk) 15:01, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
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Should be added to the protests section under the Protests section of 2016 Presidential Campaign part of the article.
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"Trump had long expressed interest in politics before his failed 2000" Trump did not fail, he ended his campaign and did not compete so I FAIL to understand how he "failed" - could someone back this up? Also I should add his other campaigns should be mentioned within his top description. Fair? ThePlane11 ( talk) 16:56, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
"Failed" doesn't tell the whole story, since he didn't continue into election night but suspended his campaign midway through the primaries. "Short-lived" would be a better description. 70.44.154.16 ( talk) 20:18, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Emir - no? He didn't lose the election neither. He ended his campaign in February meanwhile the election finished in November. @ everyone else, yes I agree short-lived is a far better word. I see the word "failed" as a biased personal attack on Trump. ThePlane11 ( talk) 22:07, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
I see that the whole phrase - "prior to his failed 2000 campaign and his successful 2016 campaign" - has been deleted, leaving just "had long expressed interest in politics". I endorse that removal and I think it solves the whole problem under discussion here. -- MelanieN ( talk) 17:05, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Mandruss - I believe in the strongest possible terms if you asked people about that context, the majority would assume (not know) that Trump lost the election when he didn't lose nor win. It should be worthwhile mentioning that he self-ended his campaign, if his campaign failed I automatically assumed he failed (lost), there must be evidence of people in previous election where they were winning the election and self ended their campaign, not really "failed" - that's a totally different meaning. As I've said before Wikipedia has an enormous amount of power and many people from different countries etc would think he competed in the end of the election and lost whereas he didn't. It should be very clear in my opinion. The reason why I said I think it is a biased attack is because I know the large majority do not share the same views as Trump and some hate him. Of course the opposition can be biased in a context where it's validated (created and day-to-day run by the left wing, mostly left wing articles) of course it makes sense. But however I'm a little off, I don't think "failed" is the MOST appropriate and clear word. If someone with my intelligence has a hard time distinguishing the meaning, well that indeed says something and proves my point. ThePlane11 ( talk) 01:34, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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The piecdmentioning that Donald's uncle "helped design X-ray machines that prolonged the lives of cancer patients." could be edited to sound less as a compliment. --
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The style of reference for John G. Trump may be puffery, or attempt to improve image by association. The cited reference does not talk at all about John Trump's contribution to prolonging lives of cancer patients (though this is referenced in the John G. Trump wikipedia page).
Suggest removing the phrase "which helped prolong lives of cancer patients", and stick with his professional facts:
He was a professor at MIT from 1936 to 1973, involved in radar research and the design of hospital X-Ray machines. Bigtastyrich ( talk) 20:25, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
The link referenced is to a 3rd party online news site. Credibility is strengthened if the link is changed to the official HB-438 link to the House of representatives page [1]
Bigtastyrich ( talk) 20:15, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Not done We usually use secondary sources rather than primary sources for this kind of reference. However, that section links to our article Efforts to impeach Donald Trump where there is more information including a link to the bill itself. -- MelanieN ( talk) 18:05, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Should a new section be added regarding accusations of Trump's bigotry (racism, antisemitism, sexism, Islamophobia)? Avisnacks ( talk) 09:15, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
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*Support. Our hands are tied. We must reflect coverage given by reliable sources. That the term is subjective, and that in this case it is used exclusively and selectively by his political opponents, is completely irrelevant policy is policy we must call Trump a bigot and in Wikipedia's voice. Wikipedia has been accused in the past of having a left-wing the bias and a hatred for Trump in particular,leading to biased and partisan coverage. We cannot let our reputation prevent us from calling a meanie a meanie.
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We need to include my personal terrible seedy details because I interpret this very blanket RfC as supporting my very particular thing.TimothyJosephWood 10:46, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
SMcCandlish is right that this could be a whole article subject, and the way to start, per SUMMARY, is to create a section which gets so large that it creates an undue weight situation and must be spun off. Let's get started. -- BullRangifer ( talk) 04:41, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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I want to edit this because there are facts that are wrong. 71.55.177.130 ( talk) 00:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Shouldn't his occupation as an author be listed along with businessman and television personality? Even when taking into account that most of them were (at least) co-written by other people and fall in the business category, he has published 19 books in total, most of which made best-seller lists and made considerable profit. It basically revolves around the question whether it can be included in his businessman/politician epithet or already deserves recognition of its own.-- DasallmächtigeJ ( talk) 19:09, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
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Change his birthday from 14th June 1946 to 26/09/17 because of the expression, 'Were You Born Yesterday?' LegendSkys ( talk) 18:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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Change New York City to New York City, New York, U.S. on Trump's infobox. 70.44.154.16 ( talk) 23:16, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi there. I'm new to Wikipedia and doing an assignment for class where we find errors in the encyclopedia. The first error I've identified, is citation 625 in this article, which needs an author name and a date published. Please correct.-- Jaobar ( talk) 17:06, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Citation 600 does not work and I don't think the quote it references is correct. I may be mistaken though 22mikpau ( talk) 15:16, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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