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I think that since the season didn't happen at all it should not be on the chart of records for each year--it simply looks bad to have it there. I think the footnote should be kept, but without the actual number, perhaps an asterisk? What do you think? Thomas Carson 07:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I have just completed the List of Columbus Blue Jackets players. As of the end of the 2003-04 NHL season, this list is complete for every player that has donned a Blue Jackets sweater. Please help and keep this list accurate by adding players when the start playing for Columbus. Thanks! Masterhatch 12 August 2005
I've noticed that the right shoulder patch on their jerseys now has a styleized cap worn by Union soldiers during the Civil War. I wonder if the team will begin to shift to that idea rather than the amorphous team identity the have currently...
Example: http://www.bluejackets.com/graphics/fans/wallpaper/pics/1024x768_denis.jpg
Flying CanOpener 01:34, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I edited the 2005-2006 standings to be up to date as of their game on Monday, February 6, 2006, when the Blue Jackets lost to the Vancouver Canucks. The only problem is that I was unable to find any sites with statistics covering current PIM (Penalty Minutes) numbers, so I had to leave that unchanged. Perhaps someone can link to a regularly updated sports site which does show a team's PIM for future reference to anyone who will edit the Blue Jackets' standings every now and then.-- Resident Lune 06:38, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I like the looks of it. Ravenswing 21:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
could it be possible? i herd that it was the reason why they are having exibition games in winnipeg, to see if winnipeg cares about NHL hockey or not. IMURDAD 19 September 2006
Someone added the "Disputed-section" tag to the Origin of team name section. What's the problem? Jwolfe 19:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm stuck in a bit of a quandary here. I have read the Blue Jackets Media Guide for the season, and in it they specifically describe each and every logo, as well as the origin of the team name and the colors of the team. Perfect to deal with this little conflict concerning references and what the team's name refers to, right? Anyway, the name is a reference to the American Civil War, the amount of soldiers Ohio had involved, and the fact that many uniforms were made in Columbus. On top of that, there's other interesting tidbits such as how the 13 smaller stars on the CBJ logo are supposed to represent the original 13 colonies, and how the primary star is supposed to represent Columbus. It also makes no mention whatsoever of the Shawnee Chief Blue Jacket, which means regardless of one's opinions or the similarity in team name and Chief's name, nothing officially supports that claim.
Unfortunately it's sort of hard to use a media guide as a citation, since it isn't exactly registered as a real book anywhere online. :-/ So what should I do, folks? Any advice? I'd like to deal with this name conflict as fast as possible. - Resident Lune 13:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Team Mascot needs to be mentioned, and also a picture of their current jerseys would add to the article. Love each other, or perish. ~Auden 00:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
The Blue Jackets official website doesn't list Modin as an alternate captain. Why, is he listed on this article? GoodDay 18:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. GoodDay ( talk) 22:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned that the Blue Jackets were the first NHL team in Ohio since the Cleveland Barons had left? 76.126.29.36 ( talk) 05:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but this article has an obvious lack of references/citations. When you have added the (many) necessary citations, you can think about nominating again. But not now. Noble Story ( talk) 13:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, the number of citations in this article has increased tenfold (yup!) since the failed GAN two months ago. I also have done a (brief) comparison to other GA hockey articles and to the hints for GA nomination, so I feel more confident now that we can either get this article listed GA or get some good feedback this time. Macduffman ( talk) 15:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I think that a minor snippet about the team's original majority owner,
John H. McConnell, should be included. He passed away not long ago, and was probably one of the most-loved pro. team owners in the country, as well as very likely the only reason that the NHL finally decided to give Columbus a franchise (you may recall that Columbus nearly lost their bid).
I think it is worth mentioning these things, if only briefly, since it's a big part of team history. I'll write it up and add it soon (I'll try into include some references to any facts I include), unless there are major objections here. I'll try to make the focus on McConnell's influence on the team, not the man himself. Thanks in advance for any input.
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I have been going through this article and adding citations for anything I could think of. In the paragraph(s) about 2005-2006, regarding Jan 2006, the statement "They had the best record for January" was made. I was unsure if this meant their best month ever, or they won more games in Jan 2006 than any other team in the league, but I couldn't find references for either possibility. I had placed a citation needed (albeit not terribly long ago), but it was not filled. Since it would be great to get this article back on track toward GA status, I went ahead and removed it. If anybody cares deeply about that month in team history, please find some evidence to back it up, or at least leave a reply here in which you give me a lead. Thanks!! Macduffman ( talk) 19:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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1. Well written?: I think a general once over would help clean up a few clarity issues with the prose. It might help to have a new set of eyes on the scene, just to pick out things that were understood by the writer but not expressed clearly. A few examples below:
2. Factually accurate?: Well cited, from a variety of sources. Switching to a two column reference list would shorten that section of the page up a bit.
3. Broad in coverage?: Seems consistent here with other NHL team Good Articles.
4. Neutral point of view?: Seems fine.
5. Article stability? No recent issues evident from the article history
6. Images?: Lots of logos being used - not sure if this is necessary. Also, the jersey pictures seem redundant with all the logos, especially considering they are under 'fair use' They are on other team pages though, so for consistency's sake I understand their inclusion. Arena pictures, or other players might be a nice addition, but not a deal breaker.
giggy ( :O) 23:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
In conjunction with the GAN, I reviewed the article per a suggstion at the Hockey WP. I hope my comments help.
Overall, the article is a good base to build on. Black ngold29 19:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, and thank you to everyone who has been working to improve this article. It is ten times better than it was even a month ago. I thought it might be appropriate to begin addressing the comments made in response to the GA nomination. Though I've tried to give a full report, please free to add or correct my summary of the subsequent improvements. Quoted comments are in italics.
Conclusion: All comments and time spent reviewing this article are very much appreciated. I look forward to reading your responses. Thanks again to everyone for the time and hard work. Macduffman ( talk) 16:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The external link to Luke Richardson in the Captains List? is inaccurate. Richardson was named captain in 2003 (not 2002). GoodDay ( talk) 23:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
We are currently building a Hitchcock team. I think we are gonna make it this year. cbj171 ( talk) 23:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
On the Wikipedia page, the colors are navy blue, red, and white, but on the Blue Jackets' official site, they are union blue, goal red, and capital silver. Main color however is blue.
Source: http://bluejackets.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=380504 (2nd paragraph) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.183.73 ( talk) 20:22, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I cannot find a source that lists Gwinnett as a current affiliate. The Blue Jackets' website's affiliate page does not list Gwinnett, and the 2010–11 ECHL affiliate page does not list Columbus as Gwinnett's NHL affiliate. As such, I am removing the Gwinnett affiliation from the infobox. If anyone has a current reliable source indicating otherwise, please feel free to revert and we can get the discussion rolling. Cheers. Cjmclark ( Contact) 01:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't want to make this big of a change before discussing it. I have tried to verify that the Blue Jackets and Red Wings have been moved back to the West but there is no article on it, and the two team internet sites still state that the teams are moving to the Eastern Division. Unless I can find verification for this, my strong inclination is to strike it out or revise it to the correct information. Lizmichael ( talk) 23:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
I recommend that we keep this article consistent with the other 29 articles. It's our practice to not list alternate captains. It's also our practice to not list vacancies in the captaincy, particular when the vacancy is current. GoodDay ( talk) 17:10, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
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Columbus Blue Jackets was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
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I think that since the season didn't happen at all it should not be on the chart of records for each year--it simply looks bad to have it there. I think the footnote should be kept, but without the actual number, perhaps an asterisk? What do you think? Thomas Carson 07:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I have just completed the List of Columbus Blue Jackets players. As of the end of the 2003-04 NHL season, this list is complete for every player that has donned a Blue Jackets sweater. Please help and keep this list accurate by adding players when the start playing for Columbus. Thanks! Masterhatch 12 August 2005
I've noticed that the right shoulder patch on their jerseys now has a styleized cap worn by Union soldiers during the Civil War. I wonder if the team will begin to shift to that idea rather than the amorphous team identity the have currently...
Example: http://www.bluejackets.com/graphics/fans/wallpaper/pics/1024x768_denis.jpg
Flying CanOpener 01:34, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I edited the 2005-2006 standings to be up to date as of their game on Monday, February 6, 2006, when the Blue Jackets lost to the Vancouver Canucks. The only problem is that I was unable to find any sites with statistics covering current PIM (Penalty Minutes) numbers, so I had to leave that unchanged. Perhaps someone can link to a regularly updated sports site which does show a team's PIM for future reference to anyone who will edit the Blue Jackets' standings every now and then.-- Resident Lune 06:38, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I like the looks of it. Ravenswing 21:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
could it be possible? i herd that it was the reason why they are having exibition games in winnipeg, to see if winnipeg cares about NHL hockey or not. IMURDAD 19 September 2006
Someone added the "Disputed-section" tag to the Origin of team name section. What's the problem? Jwolfe 19:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm stuck in a bit of a quandary here. I have read the Blue Jackets Media Guide for the season, and in it they specifically describe each and every logo, as well as the origin of the team name and the colors of the team. Perfect to deal with this little conflict concerning references and what the team's name refers to, right? Anyway, the name is a reference to the American Civil War, the amount of soldiers Ohio had involved, and the fact that many uniforms were made in Columbus. On top of that, there's other interesting tidbits such as how the 13 smaller stars on the CBJ logo are supposed to represent the original 13 colonies, and how the primary star is supposed to represent Columbus. It also makes no mention whatsoever of the Shawnee Chief Blue Jacket, which means regardless of one's opinions or the similarity in team name and Chief's name, nothing officially supports that claim.
Unfortunately it's sort of hard to use a media guide as a citation, since it isn't exactly registered as a real book anywhere online. :-/ So what should I do, folks? Any advice? I'd like to deal with this name conflict as fast as possible. - Resident Lune 13:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Team Mascot needs to be mentioned, and also a picture of their current jerseys would add to the article. Love each other, or perish. ~Auden 00:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
The Blue Jackets official website doesn't list Modin as an alternate captain. Why, is he listed on this article? GoodDay 18:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. GoodDay ( talk) 22:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned that the Blue Jackets were the first NHL team in Ohio since the Cleveland Barons had left? 76.126.29.36 ( talk) 05:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but this article has an obvious lack of references/citations. When you have added the (many) necessary citations, you can think about nominating again. But not now. Noble Story ( talk) 13:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, the number of citations in this article has increased tenfold (yup!) since the failed GAN two months ago. I also have done a (brief) comparison to other GA hockey articles and to the hints for GA nomination, so I feel more confident now that we can either get this article listed GA or get some good feedback this time. Macduffman ( talk) 15:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I think that a minor snippet about the team's original majority owner,
John H. McConnell, should be included. He passed away not long ago, and was probably one of the most-loved pro. team owners in the country, as well as very likely the only reason that the NHL finally decided to give Columbus a franchise (you may recall that Columbus nearly lost their bid).
I think it is worth mentioning these things, if only briefly, since it's a big part of team history. I'll write it up and add it soon (I'll try into include some references to any facts I include), unless there are major objections here. I'll try to make the focus on McConnell's influence on the team, not the man himself. Thanks in advance for any input.
Macduffman (
talk) 19:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I have been going through this article and adding citations for anything I could think of. In the paragraph(s) about 2005-2006, regarding Jan 2006, the statement "They had the best record for January" was made. I was unsure if this meant their best month ever, or they won more games in Jan 2006 than any other team in the league, but I couldn't find references for either possibility. I had placed a citation needed (albeit not terribly long ago), but it was not filled. Since it would be great to get this article back on track toward GA status, I went ahead and removed it. If anybody cares deeply about that month in team history, please find some evidence to back it up, or at least leave a reply here in which you give me a lead. Thanks!! Macduffman ( talk) 19:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
This review is transcluded from Talk:Columbus Blue Jackets/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. Started June 12/08
1. Well written?: I think a general once over would help clean up a few clarity issues with the prose. It might help to have a new set of eyes on the scene, just to pick out things that were understood by the writer but not expressed clearly. A few examples below:
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4. Neutral point of view?: Seems fine.
5. Article stability? No recent issues evident from the article history
6. Images?: Lots of logos being used - not sure if this is necessary. Also, the jersey pictures seem redundant with all the logos, especially considering they are under 'fair use' They are on other team pages though, so for consistency's sake I understand their inclusion. Arena pictures, or other players might be a nice addition, but not a deal breaker.
giggy ( :O) 23:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
In conjunction with the GAN, I reviewed the article per a suggstion at the Hockey WP. I hope my comments help.
Overall, the article is a good base to build on. Black ngold29 19:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
References
Hello, and thank you to everyone who has been working to improve this article. It is ten times better than it was even a month ago. I thought it might be appropriate to begin addressing the comments made in response to the GA nomination. Though I've tried to give a full report, please free to add or correct my summary of the subsequent improvements. Quoted comments are in italics.
Conclusion: All comments and time spent reviewing this article are very much appreciated. I look forward to reading your responses. Thanks again to everyone for the time and hard work. Macduffman ( talk) 16:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The external link to Luke Richardson in the Captains List? is inaccurate. Richardson was named captain in 2003 (not 2002). GoodDay ( talk) 23:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
We are currently building a Hitchcock team. I think we are gonna make it this year. cbj171 ( talk) 23:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
On the Wikipedia page, the colors are navy blue, red, and white, but on the Blue Jackets' official site, they are union blue, goal red, and capital silver. Main color however is blue.
Source: http://bluejackets.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=380504 (2nd paragraph) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.183.73 ( talk) 20:22, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I cannot find a source that lists Gwinnett as a current affiliate. The Blue Jackets' website's affiliate page does not list Gwinnett, and the 2010–11 ECHL affiliate page does not list Columbus as Gwinnett's NHL affiliate. As such, I am removing the Gwinnett affiliation from the infobox. If anyone has a current reliable source indicating otherwise, please feel free to revert and we can get the discussion rolling. Cheers. Cjmclark ( Contact) 01:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't want to make this big of a change before discussing it. I have tried to verify that the Blue Jackets and Red Wings have been moved back to the West but there is no article on it, and the two team internet sites still state that the teams are moving to the Eastern Division. Unless I can find verification for this, my strong inclination is to strike it out or revise it to the correct information. Lizmichael ( talk) 23:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
I recommend that we keep this article consistent with the other 29 articles. It's our practice to not list alternate captains. It's also our practice to not list vacancies in the captaincy, particular when the vacancy is current. GoodDay ( talk) 17:10, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
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