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This term needs to be explained, preferably by linking to an article that explains this term. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:33, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Leaning towards ABS-CBN claims. Concluding, jeopardized jobs of 11K employees, when not everyone was working and a lot of jobs were already sudpended due to COVID. An aftermayh section when it is an on-going event. Doesn't cite the side supporting the shutdown. 119.93.40.241 ( talk) 08:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
This request is not actionable as stated. Unless a more concrete request is made the POV tag will be removed after 24 hours. Howard the Duck ( talk) 08:15, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Quidquidlatetadparebit, Alsee, and Allenjambalaya: with all due respect, I think @ 119.93.40.241: has a reason why the article is slanting towards POV issue. I noticed there's only one mention of FICTAP:
Within the same month, various congressmen urged the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) to grant a provisional authority to ABS-CBN to continue operations after the lapse of its current franchise until Congress has made a decision on its franchise application.[90] Having consulted with the Department of Justice (DOJ), the NTC affirmed in March 2020 that it would "likely" issue a provisional authority to ABS-CBN and "let ABS-CBN continue operations based on equity".[91] However, the Federation of International Cable TV and Telecommunications Associations of the Philippines (FICTAP) questioned the provisional authority, stating that it would be unconstitutional.[92]
The article doesn't even include FICTAP's statements that were eventually dismissed by PCTA (Philippine Cable and Television Association, am I correct?) and the experts interviewed by Atom Araullo's Stand For Truth millennial-themed online newscast.
For sources I found some:
I didn't include sources by ABS-CBN News because I thought the context of this article has made ABS-CBN a primary source. The ABS-CBN source about FICTAP (whoever is interested here) is [1]. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 09:54, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
The article already mentions that #NoToABSCBNShutDown trended on May 5. References included. This hashtag started trending not just in May but as early as the franchise non-renewal issues surfaced (no discussion on this yet).
But there was also a counter-hashtag, #YesToABSCBNShutDown.
The accounts were found to be in violation of Twitter’s platform manipulation and spam policies, the social media site told The Washington Post in an email. Among the examples of behavior that Twitter says violate its rules on spam are posting duplicate content across multiple accounts, creating duplicate or multiple accounts, and sending large numbers of unsolicited replies or mentions.
In other words, it's just the WaPo report (supposedly based on an email from Twitter) that is the source for all of this. I am wondering if this could be enough support to mention the counter-hashtag, and to connect the hashtag to the Twitter suspension of inauthentic accounts. Quidquidlatetadparebit ( talk) 13:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.43.201.73 ( talk) 06:33, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Can you change the July 13, 2020 to August 4, 2020. Because the Supreme Court was delayed the schedule of SC deliberation sourced 152.32.110.145 ( talk) 10:12, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Any discussion about the Supreme Court. It's in the article. 152.32.110.145 ( talk) 03:01, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect May 5, 2020. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 5#May 5, 2020 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Onel5969 TT me 18:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
It seems to imply as if ABS-CBN is the only large media franchise in the Philippines. The Philippines has multiple media sources. Moreover, as with the "POV" problem that a previous talk article has mentioned, it seems to be leaning in favour of the Pro-ABS faction. Looking at the references, some citations are even from a faulty media company whose CEO has failed to defend herself accordingly against a libel suit, which puts into question the credibility of the whole article being written in good faith. The article does not seem to have a discussion on the faults on ABS-CBN's part, which were discussed in detail in the Lower House proceedings. Either no offense to the person who had written this article, (or considering in my perspective, this seems to be written in bad faith), please cease and desist. Wikipedia should be neutral on topics like this. Rather than be focused on information, it focuses on creating a bias. Giratina9999 ( talk) 01:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
write a possible claim and counterclaim for the following issues! 1.) Philippines Respose to COVID 1o pandemic 2001:4454:286:CB00:31CD:1406:D24E:6567 ( talk) 18:27, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Shutdown of ABS-CBN broadcasting. Consensus was against move to proposed title, but in favor of the title suggested by User:Howard the Duck. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 00:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Closure of ABS-CBN TV network → Shutdown of ABS-CBN – TV network is redundant; Shutdown of ABS-CBN and ABS-CBN shutdown are more commonly used (see The Philippine Star, Human Rights Watch, the National Union of Journalists of the Philippines, Vice, Rappler, The New York Times, Nikkei Asia).
The proposed title is consistent with both Shutdown of Sky Global and Shutdown of the Min-kuo Jih-pao. It also aligns better with the current scope of the article, which is no longer exclusive to ABS-CBN's franchise. HueMan1 ( talk) 12:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 21:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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This term needs to be explained, preferably by linking to an article that explains this term. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:33, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Leaning towards ABS-CBN claims. Concluding, jeopardized jobs of 11K employees, when not everyone was working and a lot of jobs were already sudpended due to COVID. An aftermayh section when it is an on-going event. Doesn't cite the side supporting the shutdown. 119.93.40.241 ( talk) 08:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
This request is not actionable as stated. Unless a more concrete request is made the POV tag will be removed after 24 hours. Howard the Duck ( talk) 08:15, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Quidquidlatetadparebit, Alsee, and Allenjambalaya: with all due respect, I think @ 119.93.40.241: has a reason why the article is slanting towards POV issue. I noticed there's only one mention of FICTAP:
Within the same month, various congressmen urged the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) to grant a provisional authority to ABS-CBN to continue operations after the lapse of its current franchise until Congress has made a decision on its franchise application.[90] Having consulted with the Department of Justice (DOJ), the NTC affirmed in March 2020 that it would "likely" issue a provisional authority to ABS-CBN and "let ABS-CBN continue operations based on equity".[91] However, the Federation of International Cable TV and Telecommunications Associations of the Philippines (FICTAP) questioned the provisional authority, stating that it would be unconstitutional.[92]
The article doesn't even include FICTAP's statements that were eventually dismissed by PCTA (Philippine Cable and Television Association, am I correct?) and the experts interviewed by Atom Araullo's Stand For Truth millennial-themed online newscast.
For sources I found some:
I didn't include sources by ABS-CBN News because I thought the context of this article has made ABS-CBN a primary source. The ABS-CBN source about FICTAP (whoever is interested here) is [1]. JWilz12345 ( Talk| Contrib's.) 09:54, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
The article already mentions that #NoToABSCBNShutDown trended on May 5. References included. This hashtag started trending not just in May but as early as the franchise non-renewal issues surfaced (no discussion on this yet).
But there was also a counter-hashtag, #YesToABSCBNShutDown.
The accounts were found to be in violation of Twitter’s platform manipulation and spam policies, the social media site told The Washington Post in an email. Among the examples of behavior that Twitter says violate its rules on spam are posting duplicate content across multiple accounts, creating duplicate or multiple accounts, and sending large numbers of unsolicited replies or mentions.
In other words, it's just the WaPo report (supposedly based on an email from Twitter) that is the source for all of this. I am wondering if this could be enough support to mention the counter-hashtag, and to connect the hashtag to the Twitter suspension of inauthentic accounts. Quidquidlatetadparebit ( talk) 13:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.43.201.73 ( talk) 06:33, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
This
edit request to
ABS-CBN franchise renewal controversy has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Can you change the July 13, 2020 to August 4, 2020. Because the Supreme Court was delayed the schedule of SC deliberation sourced 152.32.110.145 ( talk) 10:12, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Any discussion about the Supreme Court. It's in the article. 152.32.110.145 ( talk) 03:01, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 16:24, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect May 5, 2020. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 5#May 5, 2020 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Onel5969 TT me 18:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
It seems to imply as if ABS-CBN is the only large media franchise in the Philippines. The Philippines has multiple media sources. Moreover, as with the "POV" problem that a previous talk article has mentioned, it seems to be leaning in favour of the Pro-ABS faction. Looking at the references, some citations are even from a faulty media company whose CEO has failed to defend herself accordingly against a libel suit, which puts into question the credibility of the whole article being written in good faith. The article does not seem to have a discussion on the faults on ABS-CBN's part, which were discussed in detail in the Lower House proceedings. Either no offense to the person who had written this article, (or considering in my perspective, this seems to be written in bad faith), please cease and desist. Wikipedia should be neutral on topics like this. Rather than be focused on information, it focuses on creating a bias. Giratina9999 ( talk) 01:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
write a possible claim and counterclaim for the following issues! 1.) Philippines Respose to COVID 1o pandemic 2001:4454:286:CB00:31CD:1406:D24E:6567 ( talk) 18:27, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Shutdown of ABS-CBN broadcasting. Consensus was against move to proposed title, but in favor of the title suggested by User:Howard the Duck. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 00:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Closure of ABS-CBN TV network → Shutdown of ABS-CBN – TV network is redundant; Shutdown of ABS-CBN and ABS-CBN shutdown are more commonly used (see The Philippine Star, Human Rights Watch, the National Union of Journalists of the Philippines, Vice, Rappler, The New York Times, Nikkei Asia).
The proposed title is consistent with both Shutdown of Sky Global and Shutdown of the Min-kuo Jih-pao. It also aligns better with the current scope of the article, which is no longer exclusive to ABS-CBN's franchise. HueMan1 ( talk) 12:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 21:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)