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I really think someone needs to expand on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.0.142.73 ( talk) 02:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
I really think that phrase stating that the Bleeding Kansas incidents were directly correlated to the Civil War should be clarified. I'm not quite sure what that means, so we should have some evidence that backs it up, or maybe some similar qualities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.115.247.173 ( talk) 23:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Some of the leaders of the movement are unclear to me. A sentence or two about the significant figures, their role in the war, etc. would be appreciated for those that don't have their own article. William Quantrill doesn't need expansion, he has his own page. But when Antonio Benincasa and George Clarke are supposed to be influential figures, I'd like to know in what capacity they were involved. Even if it is just a few words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.113.0.170 ( talk) 17:47, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
I have removed the sentence that read "The first shot of the small war was fired by the colonel Rob McHell when he shot his neighbor in the face when he learned he would not be voting for slavery." I have been unable to find any mention of this elsewhere that does not return to this wikipedia page and it seems highly suspect for several reasons; for example, the name "McHell." DeciusAemilius
Rob Mitchell was a real Colonel in this time period, but I don't know if he ever shot his neighbor in the face. — Preceding
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100.15.193.5 (
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It is easier to organize an article if you use headers like the one above.
Much of this article is copied verbatim from the PBS article. Those paragraphs should be rewritten or deleted. MarcusGraly 20:19, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
It seems that someone fiddled around with the introduction to the article, changing the pictures... hm.
I couldn't understand about half of what the writer was trying to get across. Stop trying to act like a genius and put it in terms we can all understand.
I changed it to 'directly correlated to', but I still don't get how the two are linked. Maybe the writer should have put in some examples. —Preceding
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71.115.247.173 (
talk) 23:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Since this was the subject of a recent change, I thought I would point out that Craig Miner's recent and fairly-definitive Kansas: The History of the Sunflower State, 1854-2000 states, "Between 1854 and 1861, fifty-six people died in the confrontations in Kansas." [p. 57] Kgwo1972 12:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
5 guys getting hacked to death with swords is considered the first shots of a war?
Yet, Bloody Kansas was the true beginning of the Civil War and the first deaths in the struggle for Kansas eventually entering as a free-state should be historically recognized as the first deaths of the war. - Brad Watson, Miami 66.229.56.118 ( talk) 13:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
I couldn't find the answer to this question. What was it that Kansas became after the battle was over? Slave or non-slave? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.86.213.71 ( talk) 23:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC).
Edited out the comment concerning Fort Scott being a part of the "Freedom's Frontier National Heritage Area". Although the enabling legislation for the National Heritage Area has passed, the Management Plan stated in 109th Congress, 1st Session, H.R. 413 Sec 4(e) has not been submitted or approved to the Secretary of the Interior for review as per H.R. 413 Sec 4(e)(5). As a result, the inclusion of sites in the National Heritage Area Management Plan is conjecture at this point.
Per the Fact-tag request, I have removed the sentence claiming that Lewis Cass "first developed" the doctrine of Popular Sovereignty and replaced it with cited material naming him as "Father of Popular Sovereignty". Said book is available (in part) through Google Books. I believe I have altered the wording sufficiently to place it in context and avoid claims of plagiarism so long as the citation remains in place. Someone may care to offer a better synonym for "sobriquet" though. -- Geoff Capp ( talk) 22:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
This article treats the events like they're military engagements. I would fix it myself, but i'm new to wiki editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.83.52 ( talk) 01:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
I added "- Dem. Ill" after the introductin of US Senator Stephen Douglas. He was a most important Democrat at the time and would, of course, be the party's nomination for President in 1860. The fact that he was from Illinois is also very important. I haven't referenced this because of the Wikipedia article on him. - Brad Watson, Miami 66.229.56.118 ( talk) 13:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
"On January 29, 1861, Kansas was admitted to the Union as the 34th State and as a free state. Three months later, Southern Rebels fired at a US Flag with 34 stars at the Battle of Fort Sumter which began the Civil War." Kansas being the 34th state is important as is the symbolic representation of it as a star on the US Flag. I have not referenced this because it so undisputed. - Brad Watson, Miami 66.229.56.118 ( talk) 13:36, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I am from Gemany and I read Paretsky's book. It has nothing to do with history. It is about “what life is like growing up on a Kansas farm. It's a coming-of-age story packed with a punch of moral debate.” Please check with Book Review 'Bleeding Kansas'. Good luck. -- 178.11.235.191 ( talk) 07:43, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
The map accompanying the article shows Utah as a free territory. This is incorrect, slavery existed in Utah from the Mormon settlement of 1846 till the abolition of slavery in the territories in 1862. [1] [2] [3] [4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saintonge235 ( talk • contribs) 06:44, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
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I'd like to put the information regarding Brooks's beating of Sumner into a separate article, considering how important and symbolic an event it was, and that the vast majority of the information is repeated in separate articles: Charles Sumner, Preston Brooks, and Bleeding Kansas.
I have begun this "Main Article" by copypasting to Caning of Charles Sumner, and this note has been copied to the relevant Talk pages for discussion here ( Talk:Charles Sumner#Separate article on caning). Let me know what you think, and let's try to pin down title, article scope, and summary scope in the next 2 weeks. SamuelRiv ( talk) 20:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Someone needs to add the bright yellow box in the legend for the "Border Union states, permitting slavery". I'm not sure how to do it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.195.247.116 ( talk) 19:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Oregon officially banned slavery (and the residency of all people of African origin) upon statehood in 1859. Slavery can assumed to be tolerated only begrudgingly, given the ban of the 1859 constitution of any African-origin residents, any moral issues aside. [1] Wistungsten ( talk) 02:36, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
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I am planning an extensive rewrite of this article. I wanted to place a notice here so that once the changes were made, regular editors of this page would realize what I was doing. I would eventually like to work this article up to Featured Article status. Lithistman ( talk) 19:32, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
This map is from 1865 according to the other articles that reference it. As previously noted, color coding is wrong for Utah, and Nevada was not a state during the referenced dates. I'm not sure how to fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.8.109.170 ( talk) 17:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I've removed the map, per the above concerns and also due to this map using modern state borders instead of the borders in use at the time of the conflict. This is not a good map. 67.1.137.31 ( talk) 13:33, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
I know that this talk page is quite silent, but can anyone with knowledge interpret this? "conducted" maybe?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoony ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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I really think someone needs to expand on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.0.142.73 ( talk) 02:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
I really think that phrase stating that the Bleeding Kansas incidents were directly correlated to the Civil War should be clarified. I'm not quite sure what that means, so we should have some evidence that backs it up, or maybe some similar qualities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.115.247.173 ( talk) 23:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Some of the leaders of the movement are unclear to me. A sentence or two about the significant figures, their role in the war, etc. would be appreciated for those that don't have their own article. William Quantrill doesn't need expansion, he has his own page. But when Antonio Benincasa and George Clarke are supposed to be influential figures, I'd like to know in what capacity they were involved. Even if it is just a few words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.113.0.170 ( talk) 17:47, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
I have removed the sentence that read "The first shot of the small war was fired by the colonel Rob McHell when he shot his neighbor in the face when he learned he would not be voting for slavery." I have been unable to find any mention of this elsewhere that does not return to this wikipedia page and it seems highly suspect for several reasons; for example, the name "McHell." DeciusAemilius
Rob Mitchell was a real Colonel in this time period, but I don't know if he ever shot his neighbor in the face. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
100.15.193.5 (
talk) 00:53, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
It is easier to organize an article if you use headers like the one above.
Much of this article is copied verbatim from the PBS article. Those paragraphs should be rewritten or deleted. MarcusGraly 20:19, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
It seems that someone fiddled around with the introduction to the article, changing the pictures... hm.
I couldn't understand about half of what the writer was trying to get across. Stop trying to act like a genius and put it in terms we can all understand.
I changed it to 'directly correlated to', but I still don't get how the two are linked. Maybe the writer should have put in some examples. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
71.115.247.173 (
talk) 23:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Since this was the subject of a recent change, I thought I would point out that Craig Miner's recent and fairly-definitive Kansas: The History of the Sunflower State, 1854-2000 states, "Between 1854 and 1861, fifty-six people died in the confrontations in Kansas." [p. 57] Kgwo1972 12:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
5 guys getting hacked to death with swords is considered the first shots of a war?
Yet, Bloody Kansas was the true beginning of the Civil War and the first deaths in the struggle for Kansas eventually entering as a free-state should be historically recognized as the first deaths of the war. - Brad Watson, Miami 66.229.56.118 ( talk) 13:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
I couldn't find the answer to this question. What was it that Kansas became after the battle was over? Slave or non-slave? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.86.213.71 ( talk) 23:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC).
Edited out the comment concerning Fort Scott being a part of the "Freedom's Frontier National Heritage Area". Although the enabling legislation for the National Heritage Area has passed, the Management Plan stated in 109th Congress, 1st Session, H.R. 413 Sec 4(e) has not been submitted or approved to the Secretary of the Interior for review as per H.R. 413 Sec 4(e)(5). As a result, the inclusion of sites in the National Heritage Area Management Plan is conjecture at this point.
Per the Fact-tag request, I have removed the sentence claiming that Lewis Cass "first developed" the doctrine of Popular Sovereignty and replaced it with cited material naming him as "Father of Popular Sovereignty". Said book is available (in part) through Google Books. I believe I have altered the wording sufficiently to place it in context and avoid claims of plagiarism so long as the citation remains in place. Someone may care to offer a better synonym for "sobriquet" though. -- Geoff Capp ( talk) 22:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
This article treats the events like they're military engagements. I would fix it myself, but i'm new to wiki editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.83.52 ( talk) 01:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
I added "- Dem. Ill" after the introductin of US Senator Stephen Douglas. He was a most important Democrat at the time and would, of course, be the party's nomination for President in 1860. The fact that he was from Illinois is also very important. I haven't referenced this because of the Wikipedia article on him. - Brad Watson, Miami 66.229.56.118 ( talk) 13:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
"On January 29, 1861, Kansas was admitted to the Union as the 34th State and as a free state. Three months later, Southern Rebels fired at a US Flag with 34 stars at the Battle of Fort Sumter which began the Civil War." Kansas being the 34th state is important as is the symbolic representation of it as a star on the US Flag. I have not referenced this because it so undisputed. - Brad Watson, Miami 66.229.56.118 ( talk) 13:36, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I am from Gemany and I read Paretsky's book. It has nothing to do with history. It is about “what life is like growing up on a Kansas farm. It's a coming-of-age story packed with a punch of moral debate.” Please check with Book Review 'Bleeding Kansas'. Good luck. -- 178.11.235.191 ( talk) 07:43, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
The map accompanying the article shows Utah as a free territory. This is incorrect, slavery existed in Utah from the Mormon settlement of 1846 till the abolition of slavery in the territories in 1862. [1] [2] [3] [4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saintonge235 ( talk • contribs) 06:44, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
References
I'd like to put the information regarding Brooks's beating of Sumner into a separate article, considering how important and symbolic an event it was, and that the vast majority of the information is repeated in separate articles: Charles Sumner, Preston Brooks, and Bleeding Kansas.
I have begun this "Main Article" by copypasting to Caning of Charles Sumner, and this note has been copied to the relevant Talk pages for discussion here ( Talk:Charles Sumner#Separate article on caning). Let me know what you think, and let's try to pin down title, article scope, and summary scope in the next 2 weeks. SamuelRiv ( talk) 20:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Someone needs to add the bright yellow box in the legend for the "Border Union states, permitting slavery". I'm not sure how to do it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.195.247.116 ( talk) 19:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Oregon officially banned slavery (and the residency of all people of African origin) upon statehood in 1859. Slavery can assumed to be tolerated only begrudgingly, given the ban of the 1859 constitution of any African-origin residents, any moral issues aside. [1] Wistungsten ( talk) 02:36, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
References
I am planning an extensive rewrite of this article. I wanted to place a notice here so that once the changes were made, regular editors of this page would realize what I was doing. I would eventually like to work this article up to Featured Article status. Lithistman ( talk) 19:32, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
This map is from 1865 according to the other articles that reference it. As previously noted, color coding is wrong for Utah, and Nevada was not a state during the referenced dates. I'm not sure how to fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.8.109.170 ( talk) 17:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I've removed the map, per the above concerns and also due to this map using modern state borders instead of the borders in use at the time of the conflict. This is not a good map. 67.1.137.31 ( talk) 13:33, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
I know that this talk page is quite silent, but can anyone with knowledge interpret this? "conducted" maybe?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoony ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 21 April 2021 (UTC)