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I am curious if the mention of
delft in the folk version is accurate. Delftware is a dutch type of pottery that purposely imitated oriental patterns (chinese particularly). And they only started imitating chinese patterns in the 1600's. In which case, being imitations, the chinese-pattern delftware would be considered inferior copies by japanese artisans and not a 'family heirloom' as in the story. Not to mention that the story (from all accounts being set in the 17th century ), delftware wouldn't exactly be heirloom, as they would be (then) extremely new fads (and again, the fad for delftware is european, not Japanese). That's kinda like saying It is 2004 in [insert country with limited or nonexistent internet connection/computerization] and there was a man named Bob who has an iPod that he treasures greatly because it had been in his family for generations. Obsidi♠nSoul 14:39, 8 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Its possible that it is incorrect. However, at the time Japan was a closed country, so anything of foriegn origin was of great value simply due to the heavy restrictions on imports.
MightyAtom (
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I am more likely to assume that it is an incorrect translation though. Probably from someone who didn't know the history and connections between delftware and chinese/japanese ceramics. But yeah, it's not that important to the article overall, heh. Obsidi♠nSoul 09:51, 16 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Merge?
I think the merger of
Okiku into this article is a good idea. I think
MightyAtom proposed the merger. A redirect should be left at
Okiku, of course. --
BrianSmithson 14:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Merge has been done!
MightyAtom 09:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)reply
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I am curious if the mention of
delft in the folk version is accurate. Delftware is a dutch type of pottery that purposely imitated oriental patterns (chinese particularly). And they only started imitating chinese patterns in the 1600's. In which case, being imitations, the chinese-pattern delftware would be considered inferior copies by japanese artisans and not a 'family heirloom' as in the story. Not to mention that the story (from all accounts being set in the 17th century ), delftware wouldn't exactly be heirloom, as they would be (then) extremely new fads (and again, the fad for delftware is european, not Japanese). That's kinda like saying It is 2004 in [insert country with limited or nonexistent internet connection/computerization] and there was a man named Bob who has an iPod that he treasures greatly because it had been in his family for generations. Obsidi♠nSoul 14:39, 8 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Its possible that it is incorrect. However, at the time Japan was a closed country, so anything of foriegn origin was of great value simply due to the heavy restrictions on imports.
MightyAtom (
talk) 23:10, 8 November 2010 (UTC)reply
I am more likely to assume that it is an incorrect translation though. Probably from someone who didn't know the history and connections between delftware and chinese/japanese ceramics. But yeah, it's not that important to the article overall, heh. Obsidi♠nSoul 09:51, 16 January 2011 (UTC)reply
Merge?
I think the merger of
Okiku into this article is a good idea. I think
MightyAtom proposed the merger. A redirect should be left at
Okiku, of course. --
BrianSmithson 14:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Merge has been done!
MightyAtom 09:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)reply
